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Mass Deceptions wrote:
Do not believe a word of everything they say. Always
remember the 'Weapon of Mass Destruction.'
1) President George W. Bush is a liar.
2) Secretary of State Colin Powell is a liar.
3) Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld is a liar.
4) National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice is a liar.
To the above facts we might add these: There are no weapons
of mass destruction in Iraq, none were there when war
against Iraq began, and none will be
found unless we plant them there.
LIES PAVED THE ROAD TO CHAOS, BLOOD AND DESTRUCTIONS.
"The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its
nuclear weapons program. Saddam Hussein has held numerous
meetings with Iraqi nuclear scientists, a group he calls
his 'nuclear mujahideen' -- his nuclear holy warriors.
Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding
facilities at sites that have been part of its nuclear
program in the past."-- Bush, Oct. 7, 2002.
"Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities
that were used for
the production of biological weapons." -- President Bush,
Sept. 12, 2002.
"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now
has weapons of
mass destruction." -- Vice President Dick Cheney, Aug. 26,
2002.
. "The Iraqi regime possesses and produces chemical and
biological weapons.
It is seeking nuclear weapons." -- Bush, Oct. 7, 2002.
. "We've also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has
a growing fleet
of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that would be used
to disperse
chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We're
concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using the UAVs for
missions targeting the United
States." -- Bush, Oct. 7, 2002.
"We know for a fact there are weapons there." -- White
House spokesman Ari Fleischer, Jan. 9, 2003.
. "Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein
had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of Sarin,
mustard and VX nerve agent." --
Bush, Jan. 28, 2003.
. "We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his
weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more."
-- Secretary of State Colin
Powell, Feb. 5, 2003.
. "Intelligence gathered by this and other governments
leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess
and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."
-- Bush, March 17, 2003.
. "Well, there is no question that we have evidence and
information that
Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, biological and
chemical
particularly." -- Fleischer, March 21, 2003.
. "I have no doubt we're going to find big stores of
weapons of mass destruction." -- Kenneth Adelman, Defense
Policy Board, March 23, 2003.
. "We know where they are. They are in the area around
Tikrit and
Baghdad." -- Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, March
30, 2003.
. "We'll find them. It'll be a matter of time to do so." --
Bush, May 3, 2003.
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Mass Deceptions wrote:
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"S. O. Damocles" <so@damocl.es> wrote in message news:<YS40d.65$Ih1.4445@news.uswest.net>...
"mass deceptions" a certain kook/troll who posts from Denver area via Qwest:
lax-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.4.53)
10 lax-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.19.37)
11 svl-core-03.inet.qwest.net (205.171.5.5)
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14 dnvr-agw1.inet.qwest.net (206.196.128.248)
15 dnvr-dsl-gw21.dnvr.uswest.net (207.225.112.21)
Mass Deceptions wrote:
Well, you got that party right! You're a liar, but you only fool the
liberal masses.
wd
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William Davenant wrote:
"mass deceptions" a certain kook/troll who posts from
Denver area via Qwest:
lax-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.4.53)
10 lax-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.19.37)
11 svl-core-03.inet.qwest.net (205.171.5.5)
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13 thn-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.8.90)
14 dnvr-agw1.inet.qwest.net (206.196.128.248)
15 dnvr-dsl-gw21.dnvr.uswest.net (207.225.112.21)
Sez some fascist scumbag abusing a University of Toledo computer:
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Well, you got that party right!
Mass Deceptions wrote:
Do not believe a word of everything they say. Always
remember the 'Weapon of Mass Destruction.'
1) President George W. Bush is a liar.
2) Secretary of State Colin Powell is a liar.
3) Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld is a liar.
4) National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice is a liar.
To the above facts we might add these: There are no weapons
of mass destruction in Iraq, none were there when war
against Iraq began, and none will be
found unless we plant them there.
LIES PAVED THE ROAD TO CHAOS, BLOOD AND DESTRUCTIONS.
"The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its
nuclear weapons program. Saddam Hussein has held numerous
meetings with Iraqi nuclear scientists, a group he calls
his 'nuclear mujahideen' -- his nuclear holy warriors.
Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding
facilities at sites that have been part of its nuclear
program in the past."-- Bush, Oct. 7, 2002.
"Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities
that were used for
the production of biological weapons." -- President Bush,
Sept. 12, 2002.
"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now
has weapons of
mass destruction." -- Vice President Dick Cheney, Aug. 26,
2002.
. "The Iraqi regime possesses and produces chemical and
biological weapons.
It is seeking nuclear weapons." -- Bush, Oct. 7, 2002.
. "We've also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has
a growing fleet
of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that would be used
to disperse
chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We're
concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using the UAVs for
missions targeting the United
States." -- Bush, Oct. 7, 2002.
"We know for a fact there are weapons there." -- White
House spokesman Ari Fleischer, Jan. 9, 2003.
. "Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein
had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of Sarin,
mustard and VX nerve agent." --
Bush, Jan. 28, 2003.
. "We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his
weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more."
-- Secretary of State Colin
Powell, Feb. 5, 2003.
. "Intelligence gathered by this and other governments
leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess
and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."
-- Bush, March 17, 2003.
. "Well, there is no question that we have evidence and
information that
Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, biological and
chemical
particularly." -- Fleischer, March 21, 2003.
. "I have no doubt we're going to find big stores of
weapons of mass destruction." -- Kenneth Adelman, Defense
Policy Board, March 23, 2003.
. "We know where they are. They are in the area around
Tikrit and
Baghdad." -- Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, March
30, 2003.
. "We'll find them. It'll be a matter of time to do so." --
Bush, May 3, 2003.
wd
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"S. O. Damocles" <so@damocl.es> wrote in message news:<x2F0d.15$Jp2.2053@news.uswest.net>...
Sez some fascist scumbag abusing a University of Toledo computer:
Oooh. Fascist? Wow! When a liberal kook starts using fascist,
McCarthyism etc., well, you know he's exhausted what little wit
he has.
wd
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Calling the president a liar is inappropriate and inaccurate.
A lie is the deliberate act of telling the opposite of what one knows
is the truth. More accurately, people should be saying that he came
to a wrong conclusions or assumptions about Iraq having WMD.
We must also not forget that Bush wasn't the only one who came to that
wrong assumption. Indeed, there are many others also thought Iraq had
weapons of mass destructions.
"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal,
murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a
particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to
miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to
his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass
destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass
destruction is real..."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
http://www.kgoam810.com/viewentry.asp?ID=285848&PT=PERSONALITIES
Have they all lied? or were they all missinformed?
Can we blame Bush for following their advice and disarm Saddam?
Ben
"S. O. Damocles" <so@damocl.es> wrote in message news:<YS40d.65$Ih1.4445@news.uswest.net>...
Mass Deceptions wrote:
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en wrote:
Calling the president a liar is inappropriate and
inaccurate.
It is neither.
Today's Bush Lie
"[Castro] welcomes sex tourism," Bush told a room of law enforcement officials
in Florida, according to the Los Angeles Times. "Here's how he bragged about the
industry," Bush said. "This is his quote: 'Cuba has the cleanest and most
educated prostitutes in the world.'"
"As it turns out, Bush had lifted that quotation not from an actual Castro
speech but rather from a 2001 essay written by then Dartmouth University
undergraduate Charles Trumbull. In the essay, Trumbull did appear to quote a
Castro speech about prostitution. Sadly, the student made the quotation up.
"According to officials, the actual quotation from Castro's 1992 speech reads as
follows: 'There are hookers, but prostitution is not allowed in our country.
There are no women forced to sell themselves to a man, to a foreigner, to a
tourist. Those who do so do it on their own, voluntarily?. We can say that they
are highly educated hookers and quite healthy, because we are the country with
the lowest number of AIDS cases.'"
"...And this isn't the first time the Internet has baffled Bush. Back in 2003,
the President cited another student's thesis when making a case to go to war.
The student's [plagiarized and "sexed up"] work ended up in a government
document describing Iraq's weapons capability. Not exactly the kind of hard
intelligence needed to justify an attack on another country." The Register,
07.28.04
Listening To Bush Lies Since 1998
Bush lies So often and in so many different ways that I've never had the
patience to keep a list of them. However, when I write something and include the
generalization that Bush lies, some readers will write in and say, "Oh, yeh?
What did he lie about? I don't believe it." What follows, then, is an informal
listing of just some of the lies he typically tells, starting from 2/01. Now, of
course, we all know that Gore lies, Lott lies, Cheney lies, etc. But the
difference between those liars and Bush is the Resident tells us that he is
telling the truth when he is lying. Hence, he will tell us what he is going to
do, like get his proposed tax cut from the surplus, then try to get his proposed
tax cut from military and medicare funds, instead. Or, once he has actually
begun a program, tell us lies about how or why the program has begun. Or tell a
closed-door Dem meeting something and then swear up and down the next day that
he didn't say it. Or saying, "Yes, Mam" and meaning "No, Mam." Or having a
spinner say the opposite the next day. Or, or...you get the idea.
Some Bush backers claim he's not a liar, he's just not very bright and doesn't
remember things very well. That may be true, but we're sure Bush would not allow
such an excuse in his "responsibility era." We're sure Bush would agree that if
he's that dumb, he shouldn't be President. Other Bush backers claim that some of
his lies are "technically correct" or "tailored to fit the audience," or some
such circumlocution. What they're talking about are lies of omission rather than
lies of commission. In lies of omission it's what they imply, not what they say.
For example, the other evening Bush told Congress and the American people that
he was putting a "lock box" on Social Security. Now, it's very clear that Bush
wanted us to feel secure in the belief that he was protecting all of our Social
Security funds for the future. No question, right? Yet, the very next day when
his budget book was released, we learned that Bush told a lie of omission. What
he didn't tell Congress and the American people is that he would later take from
$.6 to $1 trillion out of that "lock box" to cover his tax cuts. No doubt, Bush
lied. He wanted folks to believe something that he knew was not true. Of course,
politicians do this all the time. It's second nature. In sum, the thing that
really bothers us about Bush's lies is that he is also a hypocrite and pretends
he's above lying. As a liar, he reinforces our assumptions about politicians. As
a hypocrite, he reinforces our assumptions about his character. --Politex
"President Bush proclaimed that a report by leading economists concluded that
the economy would grow by 3.3 percent in 2003 if his tax cut proposals were
adopted. No such report exists." Gordan Livingston, 06.03.03
On April 26, President Bush said in his weekly radio address, "My jobs and
growth plan would reduce tax rates for everyone who pays income tax."
That turned out not to be true. According to the nonprofit Center on Budget and
Policy Priorities, an unspecified number of low- and middle-income families
received no tax cut at all because they'd been excluded from an expansion of the
child-care tax. --Timothy Noah, 06.03.03
ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS INDICATE BUSH IS LYING ABOUT HIS WAR DECISION.
"President Bush has continued to say he has not yet decided whether to go to
war. [Today Bush said, "If we go to war..."] But the message being conveyed in
high-level contacts with other council governments is that a military attack on
Iraq is inevitable, these officials and diplomats said. What they must
determine, U.S. officials are telling these governments, is if their insistence
that U.N. weapons inspections be given more time is worth the destruction of
council credibility at a time of serious world upheaval....In meetings yesterday
with senior officials in Moscow, Undersecretary of State John R. Bolton told the
Russian government that "we're going ahead," whether the council agrees or not,
a senior administration official said...."You are not going to decide whether
there is war in Iraq or not," the diplomat said U.S. officials told him. 'That
decision is ours, and we have already made it. It is already final. The only
question now is whether the council will go along with it or not.'" --WP,
02.25.03
SH LIED ABOUT THE AIDS FUNDING HIS ADMINISTRATION IS PROVIDING, AS WELL AS ITS
TIMING "Mr. Bush's other foreign aid initiative, announced in his State of the
Union address, is $10 billion in new money to fight AIDS in Africa and the
Caribbean over five years. But his budget falls short of that promise. He is
proposing only a $550 million increase over the global AIDS money in this year's
spending bill now in Congress. Since the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis
and Malaria would be an effective channel for the aid, there is no excuse for
the initiative's leisurely start. Mr. Bush's 2004 budget for the Global Fund,
$200 million, actually cuts in half what Congress is likely to do in 2003. Mr.
Bush has also found part of the money for his AIDS programs by cutting nearly
$500 million from child health, including vaccine programs. Child survival is
the biggest loser in the foreign aid budget - a scandalous way to finance AIDS
initiatives. With the budget dominated by defense spending and huge tax cuts for
the wealthy, the White House should not be forcing the babies of Africa to pay
for their parents' AIDS drugs." 2.17.03
White House Admits Bush Lied "When Bush was asked about [the Environmental
Protection Agency's report] last week, he dismissively remarked: 'I read the
report put out by the bureaucracy.' ...White House press secretary Ari Fleischer
fessed up: President Bush didn't actually read that 268-page Environmental
Protection Agency report on climate change, even if he
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