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Investigate, punish leak, Bryant's attorneys ask



"s_knight8"
9/17/2004 1:01:53 AM


http://www.vaildaily.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040916/NEWS/109160018
EAGLE COUNTY - Kobe Bryant's attorneys want the leaks plugged, and
punishment for those who mailed Bryant's interview with sheriff's
investigators to the Vail Daily.
"The TRO (temporary restraining order) has been blatantly violated," wrote
Bryant's attorney Pamela Mackey.
Mackey asked the District Court to appoint an investigator to immediately
seize all evidence, including the large, brown envelope in which the
transcript and recording of Bryant's interview was mailed to the Vail Daily
this week. That non-descript envelope carried a hand-written address to the
Daily, four stamps and no return address. Mackey wants the court to appoint
an investigator to find who mailed the package to the Daily, and punish
them.
The leak comes after prosecutor Dana Easter and District Attorney Mark
Hurlbert sat down for interviews with the Daily as well as The Denver Post,
the Rocky Mountain News and People magazine.
"Ms. Easter disclosed her version of substantial portions of the
interrogation of Mr. Bryant and improperly commented on and mischaracterized
the evidence," wrote Mackey.
The Daily published the entire contents of the interview on its Web site,
vaildaily.com..
Mackey said revealing the contents of the interview violates Bryant's right
to privacy.
"Like all innocent individuals, Mr. Bryant is guaranteed a right of
privacy," wrote Mackey. "Mr. Bryant followed the rules ... Mr. Bryant's
entitlement to seek relief from this court is as plain as this court's
authority to give such relief."
Bryant's attorneys asked for and received a temporary restraining order to
seal the records associated with the case. The District Court must still
rule whether that temporary order will become permanent.
 
 
"Alex"
9/17/2004 3:51:19 PM


"s_knight8" <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:cidr41$e7n@dispatch.concentric.net...
http://www.vaildaily.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040916/NEWS/109160018
The leak comes after prosecutor Dana Easter and District Attorney Mark
Hurlbert sat down for interviews with the Daily as well as The Denver Post,
the Rocky Mountain News and People magazine.
"Ms. Easter disclosed her version of substantial portions of the
interrogation of Mr. Bryant and improperly commented on and mischaracterized
the evidence," wrote Mackey.
Bryant's attorneys asked for and received a temporary restraining order to
seal the records associated with the case. The District Court must still
rule whether that temporary order will become permanent.
Seems like Kobe's case against the sheriff and DA
is getting stronger every day.
Alex
 
 
messalinana@yahoo.com (Messalina)
9/17/2004 1:39:31 PM


"Alex" <avdeelen.REMOFE@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message news:<414aed8d$0$76525$b83b6cc0@news.wanadoo.nl>...
"s_knight8" <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:cidr41$e7n@dispatch.concentric.net...



Seems like Kobe's case against the sheriff and DA
is getting stronger every day.
Alex
What case? Has he filed a case or is this some fantasy of yours?
Mez
 
 
"Alex"
9/17/2004 11:02:19 PM


"Messalina" <messalinana@yahoo.com> schreef in bericht
news:f00c23df.0409171239.1aacc26a@posting.google.com...
"Alex" <avdeelen.REMOFE@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
news:<414aed8d$0$76525$b83b6cc0@news.wanadoo.nl>...
"s_knight8" <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:cidr41$e7n@dispatch.concentric.net...
http://www.vaildaily.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040916/NEWS/109160018
Bryant's attorneys asked for and received a temporary restraining order to
seal the records associated with the case. The District Court must still
rule whether that temporary order will become permanent.
Seems like Kobe's case against the sheriff and DA
is getting stronger every day.
What case? Has he filed a case or is this some fantasy of yours?
His proverbial "case", m'dear. As in, "He certainly has a case...".
Alex
 
 
Larry Coon
9/17/2004 2:38:20 PM


Messalina wrote:
What case? Has he filed a case or is this some fantasy of yours?
Bryant v. Joe Hoy, et. al., 04CV468, District Court, Eagle County.
Larry Coon
University of California
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Sports Fan
9/17/2004 6:21:09 PM


On 17 Sep 2004 13:39:31 -0700, messalinana@yahoo.com (Messalina) wrote:
"Alex" <avdeelen.REMOFE@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message news:<414aed8d$0$76525$b83b6cc0@news.wanadoo.nl>...
What case? Has he filed a case or is this some fantasy of yours?
Get out of your cave and find out.
The answer is yes.
 
 
"Chris"
9/18/2004 2:11:23 PM


I thought the "gag order" that the leak would be in violation of was during
the trial? If that's the case, then the trial is over, and the leak is
perfectly legal.
If not, I suggest whoever has a copy of the interviews send them everywhere
you can, to make sure they remain available for anyone who might wish to
read them.
Censorship is wrong.
 
 
Larry Coon
9/18/2004 8:42:49 AM


Chris wrote:
I thought the "gag order" that the leak would be in violation of was during
the trial? If that's the case, then the trial is over, and the leak is
perfectly legal.
Because you don't pay attention.
1) There is still ongoing litigation.
2) Records from closed cases is OFTEN sealed. For example,
many divorce cases.
If not, I suggest whoever has a copy of the interviews send them everywhere
you can, to make sure they remain available for anyone who might wish to
read them.
Censorship is wrong.
You don't understand the definition of "censorship."
Larry Coon
University of California
The NBA Salary Cap FAQ:
http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm
 
 
tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab)
9/18/2004 4:13:00 PM


In article <414C5779.5DCC@nospam_cox.net>,
Larry Coon <lmcoon@nospam_cox.net> wrote:
Chris wrote:
Because you don't pay attention.
1) There is still ongoing litigation.
2) Records from closed cases is OFTEN sealed. For example,
many divorce cases.
You don't understand the definition of "censorship."
Larry Coon
University of California
"As to the earlier comment that they shouldn't publish
information on an ongoing rape case, there are many problems
with that mindset. One, freedom of the press is given a
paramount importance, for good reason. There has to be a
damn good reason to exercise prior restraint of the press,
and your reasons for not publishing information on an ongoing
rape case doesn't cut it."
- Larry Coon
 
 
Larry Coon
9/18/2004 4:23:20 PM


tjab wrote:
"As to the earlier comment that they shouldn't publish
information on an ongoing rape case, there are many problems
with that mindset. One, freedom of the press is given a
paramount importance, for good reason. There has to be a
damn good reason to exercise prior restraint of the press,
and your reasons for not publishing information on an ongoing
rape case doesn't cut it."
- Larry Coon
Note to Chris: tjab doesn't understand either. tjab
posted a quote from when I was talking about prior
restraint (what you called censorship), when I was
commenting on you calling something prior restraint
that wasn't prior restraint.
Larry Coon
University of California
The NBA Salary Cap FAQ:
http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm
 
 
tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab)
9/19/2004 12:54:56 AM


In article <414CC368.679E@nospam_cox.net>,
Larry Coon <lmcoon@nospam_cox.net> wrote:
tjab wrote:
Note to Chris: tjab doesn't understand either. tjab
posted a quote from when I was talking about prior
restraint (what you called censorship), when I was
commenting on you calling something prior restraint
that wasn't prior restraint.
So do you think the transcript of Bryant's statement should
have been published or not, Larry?
 
 
Larry Coon
9/19/2004 8:02:10 AM


tjab wrote:
So do you think the transcript of Bryant's statement should
have been published or not, Larry?
I'm afraid we're getting into a semantic issue
again. Can you clarify your question? Did you
mean, "Do you think that once the transcript
found itself in the Vail Daily's hands, they
should have published it?"
Larry Coon
University of California
The NBA Salary Cap FAQ:
http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm
 
 
"Chas"
9/19/2004 9:13:25 AM


"Larry Coon" <lmcoon@nospam_cox.net> wrote
..... Did you
mean, "Do you think that once the transcript
found itself in the Vail Daily's hands, they
should have published it?"
didn't they sort of answer that question concerning the prior leaks?
No one was punished, with any rigor, over the last leaks, and the media
constrained only from publishing her name, ims.
It would seem a selective enforcement to punish someone leaking the material
now, and not punishing them- or even investigating much- for the material
published before.
This isn't a divorce case- there are no privileged intimacies between any of
the principals, hence no expectation of privacy by any of them about
anything.
Chas
 
 
tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab)
9/19/2004 12:25:11 PM


In article <8qSdnbQssM2AP9DcRVn-iA@comcast.com>,
Chas <chasclementsSPOOF@comcast.net> wrote:
"Larry Coon" <lmcoon@nospam_cox.net> wrote
didn't they sort of answer that question concerning the prior leaks?
No one was punished, with any rigor, over the last leaks, and the media
constrained only from publishing her name, ims.
It would seem a selective enforcement to punish someone leaking the material
now, and not punishing them- or even investigating much- for the material
published before.
This isn't a divorce case- there are no privileged intimacies between any of
the principals, hence no expectation of privacy by any of them about
anything.
Besides, who's to say who leaked it? All Kobe's supporters here seem
to think its coming out only helped him, and hurt her chances of getting
a settlement.
 
 
Larry Coon
9/19/2004 9:43:49 AM


tjab wrote:
Besides, who's to say who leaked it?
Just speculating here, but there were several different
traslations of the tape. Mackey said the one that was
released was one of the prosecution's translations. I
would think the defense would somehow manage to leak one
of THEIR translations.
All Kobe's supporters here seem
to think its coming out only helped him, and hurt her chances of getting
a settlement.
Well, -if- she was thinking she could use the potential
airing of the tape as a bargaining chip toward a settlement,
then they have lost the opportunity to do so.
I haven't seen your answer to my question -- when you asked
me if I thought the transcript should be published, were
you referring to whether the Vail Daily should have published
it once they got it?
Larry Coon
University of California
The NBA Salary Cap FAQ:
http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm
 
 
tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab)
9/19/2004 1:21:12 PM


In article <414DB745.2DA@nospam_cox.net>,
Larry Coon <lmcoon@nospam_cox.net> wrote:
tjab wrote:
Just speculating here, but there were several different
traslations of the tape. Mackey said the one that was
released was one of the prosecution's translations. I
would think the defense would somehow manage to leak one
of THEIR translations.
What, and make it obvious that they did it? You may be thinking,
but you're not thinking very hard.
All Kobe's supporters here seem
to think its coming out only helped him, and hurt her chances of getting
a settlement.
Well, -if- she was thinking she could use the potential
airing of the tape as a bargaining chip toward a settlement,
then they have lost the opportunity to do so.
So you agree that it's not likely to have been her or her attorneys.
That would leave the prosecutors. But what's their motive, if the release
of the tape is helpful to Bryant?
I haven't seen your answer to my question -- when you asked
me if I thought the transcript should be published, were
you referring to whether the Vail Daily should have published
it once they got it?
Either one.
By the way, why do you think the tape went to the tiny little
Vail Daily, and not, say, the LA Times?
 
 
"Don Tiberone"
9/19/2004 1:33:50 PM


tjab <tjab@wam.umd.edu> wrote in message news:cikf68$kio@rac1.wam.umd.edu...
In article <414DB745.2DA@nospam_cox.net>,
Well, -if- she was thinking she could use the potential
airing of the tape as a bargaining chip toward a settlement,
then they have lost the opportunity to do so.
So you agree that it's not likely to have been her or her attorneys.
That would leave the prosecutors. But what's their motive, if the release
of the tape is helpful to Bryant?
Because the prosecution are sore losers. Kobe didn't want the tape released,
that's why the prosecution released it. It isn't necessarily "helpful" to
Kobe. It just doesn't prove anything either way. But then again, in a way,
that IS helpful to him, considering people like you were convinced the tape
proved he was guilty.
By the way, why do you think the tape went to the tiny little
Vail Daily, and not, say, the LA Times?
Dan Abrams also has a copy and played the tape on his show.
 
 
tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab)
9/19/2004 1:44:12 PM


In article <cikftu$8m0@dispatch.concentric.net>,
Don Tiberone <DonTiberoneNOSPAM@SKP.net> wrote:
tjab <tjab@wam.umd.edu> wrote in message news:cikf68$kio@rac1.wam.umd.edu...
Well, -if- she was thinking she could use the potential
airing of the tape as a bargaining chip toward a settlement,
then they have lost the opportunity to do so.
Because the prosecution are sore losers. Kobe didn't want the tape released,
that's why the prosecution released it. It isn't necessarily "helpful" to
Kobe. It just doesn't prove anything either way. But then again, in a way,
that IS helpful to him, considering people like you were convinced the tape
proved he was guilty.
I'm not sure what you mean by people "like" me, but I for one wasn't
convinced of anything of the sort. (I was pretty sure it would show him
initially lying about intercourse, though.)
Why do you think the prosecutors would (in your opinion) torpedo
the accuser's chance at a settlement?
By the way, why do you think the tape went to the tiny little
Vail Daily, and not, say, the LA Times?
Dan Abrams also has a copy and played the tape on his show.
 
 
Sports Fan
9/19/2004 11:58:43 AM


In article <cikbt7$h13@rac1.wam.umd.edu>
tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote:
In article <8qSdnbQssM2AP9DcRVn-iA@comcast.com>,
Chas <chasclementsSPOOF@comcast.net> wrote:
Besides, who's to say who leaked it?
Are you this stupid in real life too?
It takes an IQ higher than a single, and an education level higher than
1st grader digit to read some facts.
1. Defense filed motion to seal the evidence and won it.
And somehow after that, the tape shows up, on a CDR media.
2. There were 2 versions of the transcript prepared for this tape, and
the one leaked was the prosecution's version.
3. The tape was sent anonymously.
4. Nobody other than the defense and the prosecution had access to this
tape.
We can rule out defense since they were the ones filing motion to seal
all evidence.
No you do the math and tell us who did this.
Assuming that you can count, which maybe another challenge for you.
All Kobe's supporters here seem
to think its coming out only helped him, and hurt her chances of getting
a settlement.
Because:
1. There were no incriminating statements on that tape.
2. There were no confessions on that tape, just like what the
prosecution was trying to convince everyone.
3. The tape was leaked in the most pathetic way, making it easier for
the defense to prove misconduct and to show that prosecution and accuser
had no case, and this is prosecution's way of getting back at Kobe,
trying to add more damage to his image.
4. Kobe insists that he is innocent on that tape, and that the whole
thing was consensual, and that is consistent with his statement in his
"apology" letter that he insisted that it was consensual.
5. Kobe was the one offering his shorts for testing, a guilty person
wouldn't do that.
6. Kobe gives more details on what the skank did, in order to lure him
into having sex, and how she started the whole thing.
It helps you look better or avoid looking like the ignorant person that
you are if you read the transcripts of that tape or listen to the wav
files that were posted.
 
 
Sports Fan
9/19/2004 12:00:40 PM


In article <cikf68$kio@rac1.wam.umd.edu>
tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote:
In article <414DB745.2DA@nospam_cox.net>,
Larry Coon <lmcoon@nospam_cox.net> wrote:
What, and make it obvious that they did it? You may be thinking,
but you're not thinking very hard.
So you're saying that defense leaked prosecution's version of it to make
them look bad?
You're one crazy ass #@&@
.
I am sure that next you will accuse defense of misconduct or tampering
with evidence.
ROFLMAO.
 
 
Sports Fan
9/19/2004 12:04:46 PM


On 19 Sep 2004 13:44:12 -0400,
In article <cikghc$m9b@rac1.wam.umd.edu>
tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote:
In article <cikftu$8m0@dispatch.concentric.net>,
Don Tiberone <DonTiberoneNOSPAM@SKP.net> wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean by people "like" me,
You're not sure about lots of things, as usual.
but I for one wasn't convinced of anything of the sort.
Bull#@($.
I posted your own words clearly showing that you expected either a
straight confession or incriminating statements on that tape, and you
first didn't get the point, and then snipped the post trying to hide
your own words.
(I was pretty sure it would show him
initially lying about intercourse, though.)
Everyone knew that fact, and it didn't need that tape to prove it.
Why do you think the prosecutors would (in your opinion) torpedo
the accuser's chance at a settlement?
The wouldn't.
They didn't think that far.
Whoever did this, is interested in adding damage to Kobe's image, and
obviously didn't think that far.
 
 
robbielynn10@yahoo.com (robbielynn)
9/19/2004 5:52:51 PM


Sports Fan <sports@fan.home> wrote in message news:<0olrk09adgc02pqm8qe4gvk01kmhi19jmu@4ax.com>...
In article <cikf68$kio@rac1.wam.umd.edu>
tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote:
So you're saying that defense leaked prosecution's version of it to make
them look bad?
You're one crazy ass #@&@
.
I am sure that next you will accuse defense of misconduct or tampering
with evidence.
ROFLMAO.
I wish you would take some time out and roll on the floor laughing.You
could also try some meditation to calm your frazzled nerves. Maybe a movie
would give you a breather too.
 
 
Sports Fan
9/19/2004 8:10:27 PM


In article <8bcd2598.0409191652.3f189837@posting.google.com>
robbielynn10@yahoo.com (robbielynn) wrote:
Sports Fan <sports@fan.home> wrote in message news:<0olrk09adgc02pqm8qe4gvk01kmhi19jmu@4ax.com>...
I wish you would take some time out and roll on the floor laughing.You
could also try some meditation to calm your frazzled nerves. Maybe a movie
would give you a breather too.
You seem to speak from experience.
Was that prescribed to you, or to your husband?
Probably in addition to prozac.
But the problem with you, you seem to be using alcohol with anti
depressants, which explains your psychopathic behavior.
 
 
Larry Coon
9/20/2004 9:06:57 AM


tjab wrote:
What, and make it obvious that they did it? You may be thinking,
but you're not thinking very hard.
So they adopt the obvious tactic of releasing the other
side's version? Doesn't that also make it obvious that
they did it?
(Oh, I see where you're coming from. ANY version that's
released makes it obvious that they did it.)
So you agree that it's not likely to have been her or her attorneys.
That would leave the prosecutors. But what's their motive, if the release
of the tape is helpful to Bryant?
As someone else said, sour grapes? Just one person in
the DA's office with access, a grudge, and a poor ethical
compass.
Either one.
But one is germane to the discussion to which you jumped
in, and the other isn't. And of course, you cut & pasted
a quote from me that addresses the one that ISN'T germane.
By the way, why do you think the tape went to the tiny little
Vail Daily, and not, say, the LA Times?
1) It gets out anyway. 2) It's their local outlet. 3) They
probably know somebody there.
Why, do you think the choice of outlet was significant?
Larry Coon
University of California
The NBA Salary Cap FAQ:
http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm
 
 
"Chris"
9/21/2004 12:58:24 PM


The case where the judge issued the gag order is finished, and thus, any
order he had issued persuant to the then ongoing case is null and void.
Do you attend the University of California or do you work there?
The records of those closed cases must be sealed as per either a specific
set of circumstances, as in the case of a juvenile court, or through a
direct order. Divorce cases are similar to juvenile, most people would
rather not have their personal lives open for strangers to read in an
archived transcript.
If you are a student, I suggest you study alittle more.
 
 
"Chris"
9/21/2004 1:01:47 PM




"Larry Coon" <lmcoon@nospam_cox.net> wrote in message
news:414CC368.679E@nospam_cox.net...

Note to Chris: tjab doesn't understand either. tjab
posted a quote from when I was talking about prior
restraint (what you called censorship), when I was
commenting on you calling something prior restraint
that wasn't prior restraint.
Larry Coon
University of California
Note to Larry -
If some kinds of freedom of the press don't count, please point it out to us
in our Constitution. It doesn't matter what you were talking about when you
made the post, the important thing is you contradict yourself.
;-)
It's not accurate for you to side with a guaranteed freedom in one instance,
and then belay it in another.
 
 
Larry Coon
9/21/2004 6:50:42 AM


Chris wrote:
The case where the judge issued the gag order is finished, and thus, any
order he had issued persuant to the then ongoing case is null and void.
Like I said, you don't pay attention. There is still
ongoing litigation.
Do you attend the University of California or do you work there?
The records of those closed cases must be sealed as per either a specific
set of circumstances, as in the case of a juvenile court, or through a
direct order. Divorce cases are similar to juvenile, most people would
rather not have their personal lives open for strangers to read in an
archived transcript.
If you are a student, I suggest you study alittle more.
Don't try to act smarter than me. You're going to
fail miserably.
Larry Coon
University of California
The NBA Salary Cap FAQ:
http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm
 
 
Larry Coon
9/21/2004 7:09:41 AM


Chris wrote:
Note to Larry -
If some kinds of freedom of the press don't count, please point it out to us
in our Constitution. It doesn't matter what you were talking about when you
made the post, the important thing is you contradict yourself.
No, you aren't following the point. Prior restraint enjoins
freedom of the press. What I was talking about was NOT prior
restraint, and not an issue of freedom of the press.
Let me repeat your statement:
If not, I suggest whoever has a copy of the interviews send them everywhere
you can, to make sure they remain available for anyone who might wish to
read them.
Censorship is wrong.
There are two separate and distinct issues: 1) Whether those
originally in posession of privileged information (the court,
prosecution & defense) should be prohibited from distributing
it, and 2) Whether the press, once they have obtained the
information (assuming legally, and opening your own mail is
certainly legal), should be enjoined from publishing the
information.
You were talking about the "gag order" (restraint labeled 1
above), with a comment about freedom of the press (restraint
labeled 2 above). It's not an issue of freedom of the
press. Once they get it, they -are- protected by the first
amendment. But it wasn't an issue of what happens once
they get it (as your "make sure they remain available"
comment above indicates), it's an issue of what happens
before that.
It's not accurate for you to side with a guaranteed freedom in one instance,
and then belay it in another.
Nothing of the sort. You are confusing two separate
and distinct issues.
Larry Coon
University of California
The NBA Salary Cap FAQ:
http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm
 
 
"Chris"
9/22/2004 1:23:53 AM




"Larry Coon" <lcnospam@assist.org> wrote in message
news:415031B2.61FC@assist.org...

Chris wrote:
Like I said, you don't pay attention. There is still
ongoing litigation.
So the DA in charge of that particular case has re-filed the charges? If
not, that case is NOT ongoing.
A judge in a now-dismissed criminal trial has absolutely no control over
civil litigation.
Seriously, are you a student, or an employee of the University of
California? Since you put that at the end of you post, you surely must have
wanted us to pay attention, right?
 
 
kongwong_no_sp_am@hotmail.com (Huang Gang)
9/21/2004 11:09:44 PM


"Chris" <RRUFIANGE@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message news:<Ju44d.9752$Si.4388@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>...


"Larry Coon" <lcnospam@assist.org> wrote in message
news:415031B2.61FC@assist.org...

So the DA in charge of that particular case has re-filed the charges? If
not, that case is NOT ongoing.
Please learn the difference between ongoing litigation and ongoing
case.
A judge in a now-dismissed criminal trial has absolutely no control over
civil litigation.
First, are you absolutely certain about this?
Second, how this is relevant to your argument?
Seriously, are you a student, or an employee of the University of
California? Since you put that at the end of you post, you surely must have
wanted us to pay attention, right?
If I were you, I would have made a thorough google search on past
posts by Larry before asking these questions. On second thought, I
would never ask questions like these.
 
 
Larry Coon
9/22/2004 12:46:31 AM


Huang Gang wrote:
If I were you, I would have made a thorough google search on past
posts by Larry before asking these questions. On second thought, I
would never ask questions like these.
:-) The funniest part is, I think he's taking
himself seriously.
Larry Coon
University of California
The NBA Salary Cap FAQ:
http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm
 
 
"Chris"
9/23/2004 12:23:01 PM


The judge's order was directly based upon the trial as it pertains to his
courtroom. Litigation holds no basis in fact. The order was issued in
regards to the case which he was presiding over.
Yes, I am absolutely certain that the judge's order does not affect the
civil proceedings, why, because his wording of the order made it very clear.
It's relevance to my statement would be apparent to you if you had read it.
I don't bother to do google searches on people who post here, as if I did it
would waste a considerable amount of time and effort. If you're going to
post something like University of California along with your name, you
should give your position within said organization. It's only prudent.
 
 
"Chris"
9/23/2004 12:23:43 PM




"Larry Coon" <lmcoon@nospam_cox.net> wrote in message
news:41512DD7.4C23@nospam_cox.net...

Huang Gang wrote:
:-) The funniest part is, I think he's taking
himself seriously.
Larry Coon
University of California
That still doesn't answer my questions, Coon.
 
 
kongwong_no_sp_am@hotmail.com (Huang Gang)
9/23/2004 7:01:32 PM


"Chris" <RRUFIANGE@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message news:<Fez4d.49121$uN5.10079@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>...
The judge's order was directly based upon the trial as it pertains to his
courtroom. Litigation holds no basis in fact. The order was issued in
regards to the case which he was presiding over.
Yes, I am absolutely certain that the judge's order does not affect the
civil proceedings, why, because his wording of the order made it very clear.
It's relevance to my statement would be apparent to you if you had read it.
"I thought the "gag order" that the leak would be in violation of was
during
the trial? If that's the case, then the trial is over, and the leak
is
perfectly legal.
If not, I suggest whoever has a copy of the interviews send them
everywhere
you can, to make sure they remain available for anyone who might wish
to
read them."
That is what you wrote. Correct?
Here is how you are make your mistakes.
First, the judge's order was directed on the case and the evidences in
relation to the case. Although the proceeding is over, the evidence
is still part of this case and the judge's order is still in effect
regarding the evidence. Therefore, any evidence in relation with the
criminal case that was under seal is still sealed. Violation of this
order, i.e. release sealed evidence to the press, gets you in jail for
contempt of the court. With me so far?
Second, a temporary restraining order was made to have the evidence
and documents temporarily sealed until September 18th 2004 by District
Judge Richard Hart. Until that order was overturned by a higher
authority or retracted/amended/rescinded by the judge who issued it,
the order stands and the documents and evidence remain under sealed.
Violation of this order, i.e. sending out the sealed evidence to the
press, gets you in jail for contempt of the court. Thats what Mackey
is accusing Dana Easter. Do you understand that? If not, we can
explain further.
Now, I am believe you meant that the criminal case's Judge Terry
Ruckriegle's gag order on August 4th 2004, the one that barred all
extrajudicial comments, has no effect on the current civil case. If I
am mistaken, please tell me so.
So you have made the mistake of misunderstand what the news was about
and the mistake of misunderstand which order said what. Either one
showed that you probably should do a little more research and read a
bit more carefully before make comments and make wild suggestions.
I don't bother to do google searches on people who post here, as if I did it
would waste a considerable amount of time and effort. If you're going to
post something like University of California along with your name, you
should give your position within said organization. It's only prudent.
Actually, you can learn a good deal by doing google searches on people
who post in ASBNLL. For one thing, you wouldn't embrassed yourself by
asking stupid question like this. It only made you look like an ass.
For another, you would learn to make arguments base on facts and
logics, not uneducated guesses and rumours.
Huang Gang
University of California
 
 
kongwong_no_sp_am@hotmail.com (Huang Gang)
9/24/2004 9:09:17 AM