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Release of tape was bad for Kobe's accuser



"s_knight8"
9/17/2004 11:03:49 AM


http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-bryant17sep17,1,7610240.story?coll=la-he
adlines-sports
Experts say Thursday's disclosure helps Bryant if he is under pressure to
make a financial settlement in the civil case. The reason, they say, is that
the disclosure of embarrassing new details minimizes Bryant's need to pay to
keep them private.
"The release of this transcript was a disastrous development for Kobe
Bryant's accuser in her quest for money," said Craig Silverman, a former
Denver prosecutor and legal analyst. "He just lost a lot of his incentive to
pay money to keep this statement out of evidence."
 
 
CliffB
9/17/2004 3:12:45 PM


in article cieucl$e7p@dispatch.concentric.net, s_knight8 at
s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com wrote on 9/17/04 11:03 AM:
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-bryant17sep17,1,7610240.story?coll=la-he
adlines-sports
Experts say Thursday's disclosure helps Bryant if he is under pressure to
make a financial settlement in the civil case. The reason, they say, is that
the disclosure of embarrassing new details minimizes Bryant's need to pay to
keep them private.
"The release of this transcript was a disastrous development for Kobe
Bryant's accuser in her quest for money," said Craig Silverman, a former
Denver prosecutor and legal analyst. "He just lost a lot of his incentive to
pay money to keep this statement out of evidence."
Oh. So Kobe's looking forward to taking the stand, and defending the
shifting "truths" of this interview? There's probably lots more dirt that
he'll be willing to pay to hide.
 
 
"S. O. Damocles"
9/17/2004 3:33:54 PM


_knight8 wrote:
Bryant changed story
Transcript shows tale shifted as cops revealed evidence
By Charlie Brennan, Rocky Mountain News
September 17, 2004
Kobe Bryant first told investigators he did not have sex with his alleged
victim, but reversed himself when the detectives revealed they had physical
evidence, according to a transcript of his statement to police.
At that point, he admitted he had sex with the young woman, although he insisted
it was consensual. He also had trouble remembering her name.
The transcript outlines Bryant's confusion and concern when he was confronted by
the officers last summer at the Lodge & Spa at Cordillera near Eagle.
"This is my career," he said after they told him the 19-year-old woman had
accused him of sexually assaulting her.
Moments later he added: "My biggest fear is my career. And my image."
He said he didn't want his wife, Vanessa, to learn of the incident.
"My wife and daughter, they mean everything, man."
The Vail Daily printed the statement Thursday, saying a transcript and a CD had
arrived at its offices Wednesday in the mail. Lin Wood, one of two attorneys
representing Bryant's alleged victim - who has filed a civil suit against Bryant
in U.S. District Court in Denver - said the version published by the Vail
newspaper appeared "authentic."
The July 2, 2003, interview with Bryant was conducted by Eagle County sheriff's
detectives Doug Winters and Dan Loya. It started in a public area of the hotel,
but eventually moved to Bryant's room, the site of the alleged assault.
The Los Angeles Lakers star initially denied a sexual encounter had taken place.
"OK, um. I'll be blunt and ask you," Winters said. "Did you have sexual
intercourse with her?"
"No," Bryant said.
Later, after learning of the evidence, Bryant indicated a willingness to do
whatever it took to make the problem disappear.
"Is there any way I can settle this, whatever it is, I mean . . ."
"Well, what do you mean by settle?" Winters asked.
"If my wife found out that anybody made any type of allegations against me, she
would be infuriated," Bryant said.
Early in their interrogation, the detectives suggested to Bryant that they knew
more than they did.
Loya told Bryant that the young Eagle woman had already submitted to a post-rape
examination.
"We received blood, pubic hair," Loya said.
"OK," Bryant said.
"Semen," Loya added.
"We've got physical evidence," Winters said.
What would become clear later is that the detectives did not yet know if it was
Bryant's semen. Nevertheless, that's when Bryant changed his story.
"Just be straight up," Loya said. "We're not gonna tell your wife or anything
like that. Did you have sexual intercourse with her?"
"Uh, this is what I need to know, because, uh, I did have sexual intercourse
with her," Bryant said.
"It was totally consensual."
After Bryant described how the young woman began kissing him, hugging him and
bending over, Winters asked him if it was possible that, after starting the
intimacy, the woman said, "I don't want to do this. I don't want this to
happen."
"If she said that, I stopped," said Bryant. "Nope. No semen, nothing."
"Did you finish?" Winters asked him.
"No," the athlete answered.
Loya countered, "Well there's always pre-ejaculation. Are you aware of that?"
"Are you kidding me?" Bryant answered. "We stopped cold."
Tests performed on the purple underwear the young woman wore that night would
subsequently show the presence of Bryant's DNA - along with that of another man.
In one key passage, Bryant confirms one detail of his alleged victim's account.
"Did you ever have her from the back of her head or her neck?" Loya asked. "What
kind of intercourse was it?"
"Held her from the back? Yeah, yeah, yeah," Bryant said.
Loya asked Bryant how hard he was gripping the woman.
"I don't know," he said. "My hands are strong."
Bryant said he had never had a similar accusation leveled against him.
"No. Are you kidding me?" Bryant asked. "I treat everyone with the utmost
respect."
As for the possibility that the young woman might have been saying no and that
he simply didn't hear her, Bryant was adamant: "No, absolutely not, absolutely
not."
When asked if he had ever had sex with another woman in a similar fashion,
Bryant told the detectives that frequently had sex with a woman named Michelle
without his wife's knowledge.
And, Bryant said, he had placed his hands around Michelle's neck when having sex
with her. He made this admission after Loya told him the alleged victim had a
bruise on her neck.
Testimony at Bryant's preliminary hearing placed that bruise on her left
jawline.
"Yeah, I mean, that's you know, me and Michelle, that's what we do, we do the
same thing," Bryant said.
The contents of Bryant's statement had been sealed by Eagle District Judge Terry
Ruckriegle during the course of the criminal case against him, which was
dismissed Sept. 1 after the alleged victim decided not to go forward.
In a motion filed Thursday, Bryant's attorneys said the release of the NBA
star's statements violated the restraining order and asked the court to find and
punish whoever leaked them to the media.
Bryant attorney Pamela Mackey also asked that the leaked materials be seized
from news organizations. Christopher Beall, an attorney for the Vail Daily and
various news organizations, filed a motion advising the court that such a
seizure would violate the First Amendment.
Karen Steinhauser, a former Denver prosecutor who is now a professor at the
University of Denver College of Law, wouldn't speculate on the motives of
whoever leaked the statement.
"What's interesting about that tape is that he (Bryant) does corroborate a lot
of what she said happened," Steinhauser said. "And it clearly reflects that he
viewed it as consensual."
Portions of taped interview by detectives
.. Eagle County sheriff's Detectives Doug Winters and Dan Loya interviewed Kobe
Bryant early July 2, 2003, at the Lodge & Spa at Cordillera. The conversation
was captured on a small recorder hidden in Loya's breast pocket. Here are some
excerpts:
Winters: Um, she came back to your room and then uh, after the tour (of the
hotel) was over, um, you guys went back to your room?
Bryant: Um, yeah, that's when she showed me the tattoo.
Winters: Where did her . . .?
Loya: OK. Where was her tattoo on her?
Bryant: Um, she had one on her ankle, and she said she had one on her back and
said it had notes.
Winters: OK.
Loya: OK. Did you see the one on her back?
Bryant: Um, yes, she showed me.
Loya: How did she show you?
Bryant: She had like a strap or whatever and she like lowered it. I told her to
turn around and she lowered it and she showed me.
Winters: OK, all right, um, did anything happen in the room?
Bryant: Like what?
Loya: Uh, did you guys hug or kiss?
Winters: Kiss or hug?
Bryant: No.
Loya: Listen, listen, listen. Let me explain something to you . . .
Bryant: OK, OK.
Loya: She consented to an exam.
Bryant: OK.
Loya: OK. We received blood, pubic hair . . .
Bryant: OK.
Loya: Semen.
Bryant: OK, OK.
Loya: All that.
Winters: We've got physical evidence.
Bryant: OK.
Loya: Listen to me first, OK. Let me, let me explain it to you first, OK. So is
there any reason why any of your pubic
 
 
"R&B Wiz"
9/17/2004 10:58:18 PM


Assumptions + a you wish.
 
 
"greg brown"
9/18/2004 1:31:54 AM




"s_knight8" <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cieucl$e7p@dispatch.concentric.net...

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-bryant17sep17,1,7610240.story?coll=la-he
adlines-sports
Experts say Thursday's disclosure helps Bryant if he is under pressure to
make a financial settlement in the civil case. The reason, they say, is
that
the disclosure of embarrassing new details minimizes Bryant's need to pay
to
keep them private.
"The release of this transcript was a disastrous development for Kobe
Bryant's accuser in her quest for money," said Craig Silverman, a former
Denver prosecutor and legal analyst. "He just lost a lot of his incentive
to
pay money to keep this statement out of evidence."
Yep, much of the value of her case is based upon how badly Kobe wants to
keep certain facts out of the press. As this sensitive info is released to
the public, especially prior to the civil trial, the less Kobe has to worry
about what the press finds out about, and therefore the less Faber's case is
worth.
The settlement value of her case just decreased.
Greg
 
 
Sports Fan
9/17/2004 6:40:22 PM


On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:33:54 -0600, "S. O. Damocles" <so@damocl.es>
wrote:
<Repeated crap snipped>
I see that you're still stuck with your 4 word limited vocabulary.
 
 
Magda
9/18/2004 4:05:49 AM


On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:40:22 -0700, in alt.gossip.celebrities, Sports Fan
<sports@fan.home> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:33:54 -0600, "S. O. Damocles" <so@damocl.es>
... wrote:
...
... ><Repeated crap snipped>
...
... I see that you're still stuck with your 4 word limited vocabulary.
I see that you can't count.
 
 
Sports Fan
9/17/2004 7:18:15 PM


On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 04:05:49 +0200, Magda <eglantine@hanmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:40:22 -0700, in alt.gossip.celebrities, Sports Fan
<sports@fan.home> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:33:54 -0600, "S. O. Damocles" <so@damocl.es>
... wrote:
...
... ><Repeated crap snipped>
...
... I see that you're still stuck with your 4 word limited vocabulary.
I see that you can't count.
Here is your homework for the weekend, Becky.
Count how many words are in "criminal adulterer and liar", and if you
still cannot, ask your parents to help you.
Forget it, it went over your head, and probably will continue to do so.
 
 
Magda
9/18/2004 4:53:07 AM


On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:18:15 -0700, in alt.gossip.celebrities, Sports Fan
<sports@fan.home> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 04:05:49 +0200, Magda <eglantine@hanmail.com> wrote:
...
... >On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:40:22 -0700, in alt.gossip.celebrities, Sports Fan
... ><sports@fan.home> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... >
... > ... On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:33:54 -0600, "S. O. Damocles" <so@damocl.es>
... > ... wrote:
... > ...
... > ... ><Repeated crap snipped>
... > ...
... > ... I see that you're still stuck with your 4 word limited vocabulary.
... >
... >I see that you can't count.
...
... Here is your homework for the weekend, Becky.
Who ?
... Count how many words are in "criminal adulterer and liar", and if you
... still cannot, ask your parents to help you.
Repeated crap snipped = 3.
 
 
nastygram@hotmail.com (Zeb Quinn)
9/17/2004 8:02:36 PM


"R&B Wiz" <RB@Wiz.com> wrote in message news:<e_J2d.4461$Qv5.3808@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com>...
Assumptions + a you wish.
Hey dufus, just wait until the victim is freed up to make the
interview rounds to Barbara Walters, Diane Sawyer, Connie Chung, etc.,
etc., etc., then her book will come out, then she'll sell the TV
rights.
 
 
Sports Fan
9/17/2004 10:01:56 PM


On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 04:53:07 +0200, Magda <eglantine@hanmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:18:15 -0700, in alt.gossip.celebrities, Sports Fan
<sports@fan.home> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 04:05:49 +0200, Magda <eglantine@hanmail.com> wrote:
...
... >On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:40:22 -0700, in alt.gossip.celebrities, Sports Fan
... ><sports@fan.home> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... >
... > ... On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:33:54 -0600, "S. O. Damocles" <so@damocl.es>
... > ... wrote:
... > ...
... > ... ><Repeated crap snipped>
... > ...
... > ... I see that you're still stuck with your 4 word limited vocabulary.
... >
... >I see that you can't count.
...
... Here is your homework for the weekend, Becky.
Who ?
That went over your head too?
You're not that smart, and it is showing.
... Count how many words are in "criminal adulterer and liar", and if you
... still cannot, ask your parents to help you.
Repeated crap snipped = 3.
Translation: I got humiliated across several newsgroups when I couldn't
count.
You should not be allowed to operate a tricycle, if you continue proving
that you have a low IQ.
 
 
Sports Fan
9/17/2004 10:04:52 PM


On 17 Sep 2004 20:02:36 -0700, nastygram@hotmail.com (Zeb Quinn) wrote:
"R&B Wiz" <RB@Wiz.com> wrote in message news:<e_J2d.4461$Qv5.3808@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com>...
Hey dufus, just wait until the victim is freed up to make the
interview rounds to Barbara Walters, Diane Sawyer, Connie Chung, etc.,
etc., etc., then her book will come out, then she'll sell the TV
rights.
Yes doofus, that's what we have been saying all along.
She is after the money and the attention.
No crime happened.
And therefore she is not a victim, you ignorant retard.
 
 
"S. O. Damocles"
9/17/2004 11:25:02 PM


Magda wrote:
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:40:22 -0700, in
alt.gossip.celebrities, Sports Fan <sports@fan.home>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:33:54 -0600, "S. O. Damocles"
<so@damocl.es> ... wrote:
...
... ><Repeated crap snipped>
...
... I see that you're still stuck with your 4 word limited
vocabulary.
I see that you can't count.
He's a self-proclaimed Sport Fanatic. How @$#*ing smart can he be?
 
 
agakhan
9/17/2004 10:34:28 PM


On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:25:02 -0600, "S. O. Damocles" <so@damocl.es>
wrote:
Magda wrote:
He's a self-proclaimed Sport Fanatic. How @$#*ing smart can he be?
a @$#* of a lot smarter than you, that's for sure.
 
 
"R&B Wiz"
9/18/2004 1:55:02 PM


Just shows how stupid he really is - fell right
into that one. Birds of a feather so to speak.
 
 
robbielynn10@yahoo.com (robbielynn)
9/18/2004 9:18:09 AM


"S. O. Damocles" <so@damocl.es> wrote in message news:<yDP2d.108$Wi5.75364@news.uswest.net>...
Magda wrote:
He's a self-proclaimed Sport Fanatic. How @$#*ing smart can he be?
Ain't that the truth..must relieve his personality defects to concentrate
on sports.
 
 
robbielynn10@yahoo.com (robbielynn)
9/18/2004 11:59:27 AM


nastygram@hotmail.com (Zeb Quinn) wrote in message news:<2fb0d153.0409171902.c23f095@posting.google.com>...
"R&B Wiz" <RB@Wiz.com> wrote in message news:<e_J2d.4461$Qv5.3808@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com>...
Hey dufus, just wait until the victim is freed up to make the
interview rounds to Barbara Walters, Diane Sawyer, Connie Chung, etc.,
etc., etc., then her book will come out, then she'll sell the TV
rights.
You are so right. She is going to be so in demand for interviews
that her people will make sure she gets the best, most sympathetic
exposure possible. Does she deserve it...I think so after Kobe's
slandering lawyers painted her the town whore. She was working the
desk, Kobe spotted her, requested her for a tour... promised her some
autographs if she came by his room later ( not after she was off)..
she drops by and he tricks her into showing him a tatoo and he grabs
her , throws her over a chair while holding her neck or as he calls it
"the strangling thing" and then causes her to bleed on his shirt.
Man, this woman is going to finally get the sympathy she deserves!!!!
 
 
Sports Fan
9/18/2004 12:05:12 PM


In article <8bcd2598.0409181059.6d672a54@posting.google.com>
robbielynn10@yahoo.com (robbielynn) wrote:
Man, this woman is going to finally get the sympathy she deserves!!!!
Skanks deserve no sympathy.
Well except from some disturbed and insecure feminists.
 
 
Sports Fan
9/18/2004 12:06:54 PM


In article <yDP2d.108$Wi5.75364@news.uswest.net>
"S. O. Damocles" <so@damocl.es> wrote:
Magda wrote:
He's a self-proclaimed Sport Fanatic. How @$#*ing smart can he be?
Much smarter than a gender confused retard who cannot count, and doesn't
know the difference between a fan and a fanatic.
Get some education, after you go back to your medication.
..
 
 
Sports Fan
9/18/2004 12:07:59 PM


In article <8bcd2598.0409180818.77a173b9@posting.google.com>
robbielynn10@yahoo.com (robbielynn) wrote:
"S. O. Damocles" <so@damocl.es> wrote in message news:<yDP2d.108$Wi5.75364@news.uswest.net>...
Ain't that the truth..must relieve his personality defects to concentrate
on sports.
Spoken by an insecure feminist.
ROFLMAO.
 
 
"Don Tiberone"
9/18/2004 3:31:55 PM




robbielynn <robbielynn10@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8bcd2598.0409181059.6d672a54@posting.google.com...

nastygram@hotmail.com (Zeb Quinn) wrote in message
news:<2fb0d153.0409171902.c23f095@posting.google.com>...


"R&B Wiz" <RB@Wiz.com> wrote in message
news:<e_J2d.4461$Qv5.3808@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com>...

Assumptions + a you wish.
Hey dufus, just wait until the victim is freed up to make the
interview rounds to Barbara Walters, Diane Sawyer, Connie Chung, etc.,
etc., etc., then her book will come out, then she'll sell the TV
rights.
You are so right. She is going to be so in demand for interviews
that her people will make sure she gets the best, most sympathetic
exposure possible. Does she deserve it...I think so after Kobe's
slandering lawyers painted her the town whore.
They don't need to. Her friends are saying the same thing.
She's already admitted to having sex with the bellboy 2 days earlier. And
the bellboy already has a girlfriend. It's fits her behavior.
She was working the
desk, Kobe spotted her, requested her for a tour... promised her some
autographs if she came by his room later ( not after she was off)..
she drops by and he tricks her into showing him a tatoo
Yep, tricks her into lifting up the strap to show her ass. LOL.
and he grabs
her , throws her over a chair while holding her neck or as he calls it
"the strangling thing" and then causes her to bleed on his shirt.
Man, this woman is going to finally get the sympathy she deserves!!!!
Too bad even her friends don't believe. Her friends are posing with Kobe for
pictures at the airport. Two of the prosecution experts switched sides. The
nurses changed their opinion. And even the Detective was having doubts about
her story.
In both stories, both claim it was about 5 minutes. When Kobe told the
Detective about 5 minues, the Detective said the evidence shows that it must
have been more than 5 minutes, nevermind that the accuser also said the same
thing. Of course it was more than 5 minutes, when you include the bellboy
and Matt Herr.
BTW, I've yet to see any explanation as to why Kobe stopped before
ejaculating. Of course, he wanted to ejaculate on her face but when she said
no, he stopped. Both stories agree with this part. If he was raping her, he
would've finished the job but he didn't. He agreed to her wishes. He had to
masturbate after she left. That movie he ordered afterwards must have been
porn.
--
"The Federal Reserve(Banks) are one of the most corrupt institutions the
world has ever seen. There is not a man within the sound of my voice who
does not know that this Nation is run by the International Bankers."
- Congressman Louis McFadden
 
 
CliffB
9/18/2004 8:30:06 PM


in article cii2fb$e7v@dispatch.concentric.net, Don Tiberone at
DonTiberoneNOSPAM@SKP.net wrote on 9/18/04 3:31 PM:


robbielynn <robbielynn10@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:8bcd2598.0409181059.6d672a54@posting.google.com...

news:<2fb0d153.0409171902.c23f095@posting.google.com>...


"R&B Wiz" <RB@Wiz.com> wrote in message
news:<e_J2d.4461$Qv5.3808@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com>...

Assumptions + a you wish.
Hey dufus, just wait until the victim is freed up to make the
interview rounds to Barbara Walters, Diane Sawyer, Connie Chung, etc.,
etc., etc., then her book will come out, then she'll sell the TV
rights.
They don't need to. Her friends are saying the same thing.
She's already admitted to having sex with the bellboy 2 days earlier. And
the bellboy already has a girlfriend. It's fits her behavior.
Yep, tricks her into lifting up the strap to show her ass. LOL.
Too bad even her friends don't believe. Her friends are posing with Kobe for
pictures at the airport. Two of the prosecution experts switched sides. The
nurses changed their opinion. And even the Detective was having doubts about
her story.
In both stories, both claim it was about 5 minutes. When Kobe told the
Detective about 5 minues, the Detective said the evidence shows that it must
have been more than 5 minutes, nevermind that the accuser also said the same
thing. Of course it was more than 5 minutes, when you include the bellboy
and Matt Herr.
BTW, I've yet to see any explanation as to why Kobe stopped before
ejaculating. Of course, he wanted to ejaculate on her face but when she said
no,
at least not on the first date.
he stopped. Both stories agree with this part. If he was raping her, he
would've finished the job but he didn't. He agreed to her wishes. He had to
masturbate after she left. That movie he ordered afterwards must have been
porn.
--
"The Federal Reserve(Banks) are one of the most corrupt institutions the
world has ever seen. There is not a man within the sound of my voice who
does not know that this Nation is run by the International Bankers."
- Congressman Louis McFadden
 
 
nastygram@hotmail.com (Zeb Quinn)
9/18/2004 3:14:47 PM


Sports Fan <sports@fan.home> wrote in message news:<0egnk0lp8dgi4u1pgg6pk2j894pgofqu28@4ax.com>...
On 17 Sep 2004 20:02:36 -0700, nastygram@hotmail.com (Zeb Quinn) wrote:
Yes doofus, that's what we have been saying all along.
She is after the money and the attention.
No crime happened.
And therefore she is not a victim, you ignorant retard.
Hey, I understand that losers like you don't know how to think beyond
about the 3rd grade level, so I'll have to explain it to you. Yes, she
WILL make a lot of money before everything is said and done here. And
that's not even counting how much she's going to take directly from
Kobe in the civil case. And she deserves every penny she gets,
otherwise they wouldn't give it to her. But none of that is the point.
The point is that as it now stands her story hasn't yet been told
anywhere. But it soon WILL be told, and it's gonna be told BIG TIME
everywhere. It will be all over the media, and there'll be no escaping
it. Kobe's worst PR days are ahead of him, and he knows it. The ball
is about ready to go into her court, she will be taking the offense,
and he is totally powerless to stop her. And good for her. You go
girl!
When the dust settles THEN we get to decide which one was lying. I'm
betting that Kobe is the liar, mainly because he's already admitted to
being at least a partial liar about it, and also because he then has
the gall to be whining and protesting so much about it. But I'll keep
an open mind. Maybe he's not a total liar, just a partial liar. How
about you, dufus?
 
 
"Chas"
9/18/2004 5:02:40 PM


"Zeb Quinn" <nastygram@hotmail.com> wrote
The point is that as it now stands her story hasn't yet been told
anywhere. But it soon WILL be told, and it's gonna be told BIG TIME
everywhere. It will be all over the media, and there'll be no escaping
it. Kobe's worst PR days are ahead of him, and he knows it.
A lot of people don't understand that a criminal trial is about the State's
interests in punishing criminals, but if you really want personal revenge,
you take them to civil court.
So far, it's only *her* reputation that has been trashed. On Kobe's part,
certain facts were deemed inadmissible in court- now, they are not only
admissible, they're useful to prove various aspects of the case.
Her revenge is not sending him to prison where she can't see him get
humiliated, it can be right out in the open where she can really enjoy it.
Somewhat of a test of her compassion will be if she doesn't want to settle
and prefers to drag him around by his dick in the public eye.
Chas
 
 
"R&B Wiz"
9/19/2004 12:00:20 AM


What a couple of idiots. A ho bates e celebrity into
sex and you two fell for it. Big time my ass. When
she goes public, so will everyone else that knows
what she really is - a scheming ho.
 
 
Magda
9/19/2004 3:58:31 AM


On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:25:02 -0600, in alt.gossip.celebrities, "S. O. Damocles"
<so@damocl.es> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... Magda wrote:
... > On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:40:22 -0700, in
... > alt.gossip.celebrities, Sports Fan <sports@fan.home>
... > arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... >
... > ... On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:33:54 -0600, "S. O. Damocles"
... > <so@damocl.es> ... wrote:
... > ...
... > ... ><Repeated crap snipped>
... > ...
... > ... I see that you're still stuck with your 4 word limited
... > vocabulary.
... >
... > I see that you can't count.
...
... He's a self-proclaimed Sport Fanatic. How @$#*ing smart can he be?
Quite !
 
 
Magda
9/19/2004 3:58:33 AM


On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:06:54 -0700, in alt.gossip.celebrities, Sports Fan
<sports@fan.home> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... In article <yDP2d.108$Wi5.75364@news.uswest.net>
... "S. O. Damocles" <so@damocl.es> wrote:
...
... >Magda wrote:
... >> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:40:22 -0700, in
... >> alt.gossip.celebrities, Sports Fan <sports@fan.home>
... >> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... >>
... >> ... On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:33:54 -0600, "S. O. Damocles"
... >> <so@damocl.es> ... wrote:
... >> ...
... >> ... ><Repeated crap snipped>
... >> ...
... >> ... I see that you're still stuck with your 4 word limited
... >> vocabulary.
... >>
... >> I see that you can't count.
... >
... >He's a self-proclaimed Sport Fanatic. How @$#*ing smart can he be?
...
... Much smarter than a gender confused retard who cannot count, and doesn't
... know the difference between a fan and a fanatic.
...
... Get some education, after you go back to your medication.
Fanatics certainly need Valium... or something like that. LOL
 
 
Sports Fan
9/19/2004 2:58:31 AM


In article <2fb0d153.0409181414.7d3ada35@posting.google.com>
nastygram@hotmail.com (Zeb Quinn) wrote:
Hey, I understand that losers like me don't know how to think beyond
about the 3rd grade level,
Corrected it for you.
 
 
Sports Fan
9/19/2004 3:27:05 AM


In article <4sppk0tl86bliv77p3a3nuu35fc062mmtt@4ax.com>
Magda <eglantine@unesourisverte.com> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 12:06:54 -0700, in alt.gossip.celebrities, Sports Fan
<sports@fan.home> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... In article <yDP2d.108$Wi5.75364@news.uswest.net>
... "S. O. Damocles" <so@damocl.es> wrote:
...
... >Magda wrote:
... >> On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:40:22 -0700, in
... >> alt.gossip.celebrities, Sports Fan <sports@fan.home>
... >> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... >>
... >> ... On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:33:54 -0600, "S. O. Damocles"
... >> <so@damocl.es> ... wrote:
... >> ...
... >> ... ><Repeated crap snipped>
... >> ...
... >> ... I see that you're still stuck with your 4 word limited
... >> vocabulary.
... >>
... >> I see that you can't count.
... >
... >He's a self-proclaimed Sport Fanatic. How @$#*ing smart can he be?
...
... Much smarter than a gender confused retard who cannot count, and doesn't
... know the difference between a fan and a fanatic.
...
... Get some education, after you go back to your medication.
Fanatics certainly need Valium... or something like that. LOL
I don't know about that, so I would defer to your expert opinion, since
you are one of those people who are on some sort of drugs.
You obviously know what drugs do to people.
 
 
Sports Fan
9/19/2004 3:27:47 AM


In article <7oppk0hk4f0neap4gtksfntnlf6fftcmfj@4ax.com>
Magda <eglantine@unesourisverte.com> wrote:
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:25:02 -0600, in alt.gossip.celebrities, "S. O. Damocles"
<so@damocl.es> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... Magda wrote:
... > On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:40:22 -0700, in
... > alt.gossip.celebrities, Sports Fan <sports@fan.home>
... > arranged some electrons, so they looked like this :
... >
... > ... On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 15:33:54 -0600, "S. O. Damocles"
... > <so@damocl.es> ... wrote:
... > ...
... > ... ><Repeated crap snipped>
... > ...
... > ... I see that you're still stuck with your 4 word limited
... > vocabulary.
... >
... > I see that you can't count.
...
... He's a self-proclaimed Sport Fanatic. How @$#*ing smart can he be?
Quite !
Thank you.
Good to see that "S. O. Damocles" own feminist friends oppose
him/her/it.
 
 
"S. O. Damocles"
9/19/2004 11:10:06 AM


Sports Fan wrote:
In article <7oppk0hk4f0neap4gtksfntnlf6fftcmfj@4ax.com>
Magda <eglantine@unesourisverte.com> wrote:
Thank you.
Good to see that "S. O. Damocles" own feminist friends
oppose
him/her/it.
You blithering idiot.
 
 
Sports Fan
9/19/2004 12:26:06 PM


In article <Y1j3d.4$AY2.23776@news.uswest.net>
"S. O. Damocles" <so@damocl.es> wrote:
Sports Fan wrote:
You blithering idiot.
Awwww, now "S. O. Damocles" is angry because his own feminist douche bag
friends disagree with him/her/it.
 
 
"S. O. Damocles"
9/19/2004 3:38:46 PM


Sports Fan wrote:
In article <Y1j3d.4$AY2.23776@news.uswest.net>
"S. O. Damocles" <so@damocl.es> wrote:
Awwww, now "S. O. Damocles" is angry because his own
feminist douche bag friends disagree with him/her/it.
Were you born stupid, or did your crack-ho mama drop you
on your skull?
 
 
Sports Fan
9/19/2004 4:15:12 PM


In article <SZm3d.38$AY2.38973@news.uswest.net>
"S. O. Damocles" <so@damocl.es> wrote:
Sports Fan wrote:
Were you born stupid, or did your crack-ho mama drop you
on your skull?
Wow, copying something from other posts make you look even more stupid
than what you are already.
Your own feminist douche bag fiends disagree with you, get over it, and
grow up.
Your $5 hooker mom is the one to be blamed, for getting pregnant while
on anti depressant, bringing a retard like you to the world.
 
 
robbielynn10@yahoo.com (robbielynn)
9/19/2004 6:16:31 PM