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ulture Shock http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3038329a11,00.html Quote Pitcairn sex case papers stay secret 19 September 2004 By DONNA CHISHOLM The High Court has stepped in to prevent the release of a raft of sensitive documents on the Pitcairn Island sex abuse case. Lawyer Christopher Harder, who acts for one of the Pitcairn men, was injuncted on Friday after attempting to meet Pitcairn Governor Richard Fell to discuss the documents which he said could be highly damaging to the case. Seven other Pitcairn Island men face 96 historical sex charges in a trial beginning on the island on September 27. In a letter to Fell, Harder said Pitcairn Islanders wanted a restorative justice approach to the case and such an outcome "would not only allow for justice to be done, it would also prevent considerable embarrassment to Her Majesty's Government by keeping these documents closeted from media scrutiny". End Quote From The Guardian / Weekend Sept 18,2004 Paradise on Trial , by Dea Birkett p 28-34, long article - so sections <...> Next week, seven Pitcaimers - almost two-thirds of the men on the island, from a total population of fewer than 40 - will go on trial for sexual offences ranging from gross indecency and indecent assault to rape. The accused - Jay Warren, Dennis Christian, Len Brown, Terry Young, Dave Brown, Steve Christian and Randy Christian face 96 charges between them. All are against children who are now adults. <...> Pitcairn's fall began in the late 1990s, when an allegation of rape was made by a visitor to the island on behalf of his daughter. Two officers with Kent county constabulary, Detective Superintendent Dennis McGookin and his colleague Detective Sergeant Peter George, were sent 12,000 miles to Pitcairn to investigate. They were the first British police officers ever to set foot on the island. Although the rape case was dropped and a caution concerning underage sex given, McGookin was disturbed at what he found: <...> Many islanders say that Operation Unique gathered the forces of a powerful nation against tiny Pitcairn. "Britain is treating us all like criminals, like animals," said one islander. Karl Young wrote to the governor: "It never ceases to amaze us that so far you, as its governor, have never shown any compassion for the community or tried to provide fairtreatment for the helpless islanders you are supposed to look after, not persecute." <...> "Its been very difficult to keep the complainants on board. The police have been working round the clock to keep them," said Moore. By the time charges were laid, two of the complainants had withdrawn. A further eight prepared a petition, claiming the police had browbeaten them into making accusations against the men. A formal complaint was made against police officer Karen Vaughn to the Police Complaints Authority in New Zealand. Kari Young, a Norwegian married to Pitcaimer Brian Young, who has spent most of her adult life on the island, claimed that the British government offered women "compensation if they had stories to tell, whether about themselves or their neighbours" and "put pressure on the women to fabricate stories". When women did come forward to tell police what happened to them, they made it clear from the out set that they did not want their interviews to be used as evidence. A complaint concerning a three-year ld - the youngest alleged victim - also fell. Around 10 complainants remain, all now adults from their early 20s to late middle age. There is still anxiety that some could withdraw at the last minute. Most live in Australia and New Zealand, a nd will give their evidence by video link, but there are two on the island "if they turn up", as one lawyer said. "There are no secrets on Pitcairn," said Steve Christian, who faces some of the most serious charges. Some Pitcairners argue that everyone knew what was happening on the island: no crime had been committed, it was all a case of cultural misunderstanding. Having sex from the age of 12 is not only legal under Pitcairnlaw, they say, but common practice through-out Polynesia. It is certainly true that Pitcairners start having children young; one 22 year-old already has four children. It's also common for a woman to have her first child by one man and her second by another, who will nevertheless willingly adopt her firstborn as his own. But deputy governor Matthew Forbes, who is in day-to-day charge of the island, though based in New Zealand, believes this argument belies the seriousness of some of the charges, suggesting it is a question of teenagers behind the bike shed. "We're talking about offences against children at quite a young age, and I don't accept that that's a cultural norm on Pitcairn or in Polynesia," he said. Thirty-one of the charges are for rape. At least one involves two men pinning down a minor; another placing a penis inside a five year old's mouth. <...> Whether they prove to be true or false, these recent allegations will irretrievably change such a small place. "We are like one family," says Betty Christian, 59,a grandmother, wife of Tom Christian, sixth generation descendant of mutineer Fletcher Christian and elder in the Seventh Day Adventist church. "Regardless of our differences and problems, none of our people want to see Pitcairn closed down and abandoned. Whatever the outcome, all of us will be affected as we are related to both alleged victims and alleged perpetrators." The island used to be governed at arm's length - when I visited, the governor had never set foot on the island. Now, he has a r epresentative in residence, and visits regularly himself. Pitcaim has become the most heavily policed community in the world. Two rotating Ministry of Defence police officers one sergeant and one constable are now permanently posted on the island, together with two more investigating officers. Two social workers specialising in child protection are sent out from New Zealand on three month contracts. Under a new Child Protection Ordinance, they've been given the power to remove a child from its family if they fear for its welfare. <...> A new six-bedded house called McCoys where the legal teams and social workers stayed, is nicknamed the Pink Palace, as it compares so favourably with the islanders' own homes. And all these would lie close by the six-cell prison, known as the remand centre, and its adjoining police station - the biggest building on the island. The fact is that Pitcairn is already a prison from which nobody can escape. The harsh seas a round Bounty Bay hem in the islanders far more effectively than any amount of wire fencing or steel gates. It is this geographical jailing that has always framed the Pitcairners. But now, unlike two centuries ago, this isolation cannot put them beyond the reach of the law. Next week, MV Braveheart will stop off at Bounty Bay, carrying the two legal teams, judges, stenographers, a court registrar, prosecuting police office from Kent county constabulary, Matthew Forbes and six members of the media picked to cover the trial. For the first time, outsiders will outnumber adult islanders. The defendants will be heard before three judges; there could be no jury, as there simply aren't enough islanders unconnected to an accuser or accused
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also http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20040919-0947-thetrialsofpitcairn.h tml <...> Dea Birkett, a British journalist whose 1997 book "Serpent in Paradise" described her several months' living on the island, has written: "Starved of real choices, Pitcairners develop relationships considered unacceptable elsewhere. Sisters share a husband. Teenage girls have affairs with older men. Women have children by more than one partner, often starting as young as 15. "But faced with such limited choices ourselves," she wrote, "would we act so very differently?" End Quote What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles and what Special Branch don't want you to know. http://www.nutteing2.freeservers.com/dnapr.htm or nutteingd in a search engine Valid email nutteing@fastmail.....fm (remove 4 of the 5 dots) Ignore any other apparent em address used to post this message - it is defunct due to spam.
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http://abcasiapacific.com/news/stories/asiapacific_stories_1203396.htm Quote A New Zealand lawyer says he has been stopped from releasing documents that would have had a significant impact on a sex-abuse case on Pitcairn Island. The trial of seven Pitcairn Islanders for sexual assault is due to start at the end of this month. Lawyer Christopher Harder says he is representing another Pitcairn Islander who is appealing a previous charge, and he says the documents are also important for his client's case. He says he tried to make an appointment with the Pitcairn Governor, but an injunction was laid stopping him from revealing what is in the documents, or from taking them out of New Zealand. ABC Asia Pacifc TV / Radio Australia End Quote What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles and what Special Branch don't want you to know. http://www.nutteing2.freeservers.com/dnapr.htm or nutteingd in a search engine Valid email nutteing@fastmail.....fm (remove 4 of the 5 dots) Ignore any other apparent em address used to post this message - it is defunct due to spam.
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3044244a11,00.html Quote US academic calls for hold on Pitcairn trials 24 September 2004 A United States academic says holding Pitcairn Island trials into sex abuse without first reviewing documents would be a miscarriage of justice. Herbert Ford, who directs the Pitcairn Islands Study Centre in California, said today the case should be adjourned until a public review of documents that contained "irregularities and possible illegalities" about the case could be conducted by a proper authority. The trials of seven Pitcairn Islanders are expected to begin on the remote island half way between New Zealand and Peru next week. The accused men face 96 charges including rape and sexual assault. Accusations of widespread sexual abuse on the island date back as far as 40 years, but first surfaced publicly in 1999. "There has been so much irregularity. . . so much that smacks of possible illegality demonstrated in documented form, that any trial conducted before these very serious matters are carefully studied and resolved would be a gross miscarriage of justice," Mr Ford said in a statement today. He had based his opinion on documents that had passed between those governing Pitcairn Island from both England and New Zealand, and legal personnel asked to develop Pitcairn law or to have a part in the trials. They included a written admission by a Kent police officer, which said she got a Pitcairner on the island drunk in an effort to get him to reveal acts that might incriminate others being investigated in connection with the trials. Mr Ford said that as late as 2000 there was ambiguity as to what age constituted the age of consent for sexual relations on Pitcairn Island. The sex charges have divided the community on the tiny outpost of the British Empire, which was settled by Fletcher Christian and his shipmates more than 200 years ago. "The Pitcairn trial as presently being pursued, in addition to the possible incarcerating of individuals, has the potential to destroy an entire indigenous people group," Mr Ford said. Pitcairn mayor Steve Christian had told Mr Ford that families were being destroyed by being asked to bear witness against each other. "It is hard to not believe that a destructive vindictiveness toward the Pitcairn people as a whole is present here," Mr Ford said. He was aware of an injunction against two people in New Zealand forbidding the release of information contained in "largely government sensitive" documents about the Pitcairn trials, but had not received any documents from those people. Three judges, prosecutors, defence lawyers and court officials were due to arrive on the island yesterday in preparation for the start of the trials on Monday local time (Tuesday NZT). End Quote What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles and what Special Branch don't want you to know. http://www.nutteing2.freeservers.com/dnapr.htm or nutteingd in a search engine Valid email nutteing@fastmail.....fm (remove 4 of the 5 dots) Ignore any other apparent em address used to post this message - it is defunct due to spam.
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3045617a1861,00.html Quote Pitcairn Islanders face turmoil 26 September 2004 Pitcairn Island is about to be torn apart as seven of its men go to trial charged with child sex abuse. Is the tiny community of 45 the victim of blundering outsiders, or are some terrible secrets about to be revealed? Anthony Hubbard reports. Jean started having sex at 12, like "most of the other girls" on Pitcairn. "To us, it was everyday life on the island," she says. "I just feel that the boys are being punished for something that I don't consider to be a crime." "The boys" include seven men who go on trial on the island this week. They are accused of rape and indecent assaults going back nearly 40 years, a sensational case that has split the community of 45. But all Jean saw when she was young was "consensual sex". "No one told us there was a certain age for it," says Jean, 46, who was born and raised on the island before she moved to New Zealand seven years ago. "It was just like - your body feels like you want to, and it was just the thing to do." If there was a law against it, she says, the youngsters didn't know. "As young teenagers the last thing you want to read about is the law." Typically the girls would sleep with boys a few years older than them. Jean - not her real name - did not see older men sleeping with young girls. Hers is one version of the strange life on the island, a version that some other islanders and their supporters are keen to promote. They portray a place where relaxed "Polynesian" habits of sexuality have reigned ever since chief mutineer Fletcher Christian arrived with his flock of sailors, Tahitian women and slaves 214 years ago. Christian called the island - half way between New Zealand and Peru - a paradise, and this has been a common perception of Pitcairn ever since. But there was trouble in paradise right at the beginning. Fletcher was murdered in a fight over women less than four years after he arrived. The accusations against the men of Pitcairn today are very serious: they include charges involving offences by adult men against children as young as five. "It's not a case," one lawyer said, "of a 17 or 18 year-old male and a girl of 12 - nothing like that." The UK's Guardian newspaper last week named the seven men and detailed several of the charges against them in a feature by Dea Birkett, a British journalist who spent four months on the island and wrote a book about it called Serpent in Paradise. In the feature she discusses her experience of a society in which it is impossible to confront people directly about bad behaviour, be it adultery or pinching fruit off your tree; a society in which it can be extremely difficult to disentangle exaggerated rumour from fact. Last week a group of judges, lawyers, officials and journalists arrived via longboat, the only way to reach the island. Pitcairn is not the white sandy atoll of the Pacific idyll. It is a rough piece of rock in the middle of nowhere whose cliffs make landfall difficult. The judges - three district court judges from Papakura who are Pitcairn Supreme Court judges for this trial - occupy one house in Adamstown, the sole settlement. Adamstown is hardly even a village - just a scatter of houses in the bush. Many are derelict: the island's population has fallen steadily from its peak of 200 in the 1930s. The defence lawyers will live in another house, and the prosecutors in a third. A special jail has been built by adding on to the existing remand block. Some of the accused men helped build the jail. "It was good money," explains one islander. Some islanders say the British government - Pitcairn is a British protectorate - is ganging up against them. The case will wreck the community, they say. Instead of the formalised, expensive and unnecessary business of a trial, the problem should have been resolved by restorative justice. This argument has had some eminent proponents, including Tony Angelo, professor of law at Victoria University of Wellington. "The blunt instrument of the criminal law has already caused considerable disruption to the community and threatens its long-term survival," he wrote in an article with Andrew Townend. Steve Christian, the mayor of Pitcairn and a descendant of Fletcher Christian, told a UN committee in 2002 there should be a Truth and Reconciliation Commission for Pitcairn. "Individuals and families are being destroyed by the waiting regarding allegations and the situation where families and members within families have been asked to bear witness against each other. This is mental torture. We are losing control of our island and our destinies." Herbert Ford, director of the Pitcairn Islands Studies Centre in California, says many islanders are likely to join their relatives on Norfolk Island or in New Zealand. "I really believe that the sense of shame, the sense of incursion by the outside world, is going to see the dissolution of this place." The seven men are the muscular heart of the community: they help man the longboats, do the fishing, and tend the gardens. If they are stuck in the jail, islanders ask, how will the community's work get done? But the other side disagrees. Restorative justice only works, said one lawyer, when the offender is prepared to fully acknowledge his crime. "The prosecution was quite receptive to the idea of restorative justice at the start," said a lawyer. But the men did not display the kind of attitude needed to make the process work. In fact, he points out, Pitcairn law allows for restorative justice. If anyone is found guilty, this could be discussed at the time of sentencing. The process of mending the wounds, and bringing the divided community back together, could still take place. Whether the community can be healed, of course, is an open question. The trial "is like a big dark grey cloud hanging over the island," says one former resident. Some islanders - probably a minority - support the British government. "The pro-British group is very divided," she says. "The only thing they agree on is to hold on to the British, 'because that means benefits for us'. Otherwise they have nothing in common." It is understood that only one of the women who complained to the police is still living on the island. But she has refused to testify at the trial. Eight other women will testify, however, via a video-conferencing site in Auckland. None of them live on the island now. Supporters of the prosecution say the men could still work even if they are convicted. "On many islands a custodial sentence still means you come out during the day to do public works or to be available," says a prosecution source. "It's entirely possible that a prison sentence would still mean the men are available to man the longboats or work on the roads." Some say that offending on the scale alleged - there are dozens of charges - could not have happened. In such a tiny community, "someone would have noticed", said one woman who spent 12 years on the island. But an American anthropologist who spent three months on the island in 1999, and wrote a master's thesis about it, says a code of silence operated on Pitcairn. "The policewoman told me that even though she knew something might be happening in a household, she could not do anything unless someone in that
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It is laughable that they spend so much time and energy in trying to bring a prosecution against people whose main crime appears to be the crime of being poor and poorly educated. Meanwhile, rich and well-educated men continue to travel to India & Fiji to obtain sex with underage boys - in some cases even going so far as to "sponsor" underage boys travelling back with them in order to "give them an education" (gang rape them over a period of years with their fellow-perverts, that is). These men's names are well-known and yet the police haven't touched them and their friends in the judiciary, far from trying to bring them to justice, do their utmost to protect them. When will the police prosecute the prominent paedophiles?
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Arthur Brain wrote:
It is laughable that they spend so much time and energy in trying to bring a prosecution against people whose main crime appears to be the crime of being poor and poorly educated. Meanwhile, rich and well-educated men continue to travel to India & Fiji to obtain sex with underage boys - in some cases even going so far as to "sponsor" underage boys travelling back with them in order to "give them an education" (gang rape them over a period of years with their fellow-perverts, that is). These men's names are well-known and yet the police haven't touched them and their friends in the judiciary, far from trying to bring them to justice, do their utmost to protect them. When will the police prosecute the prominent paedophiles?
Why don't you name them, since you are so certain of your facts?
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3047991a10,00.html Pitcairn governor seeks return of documents 28 September 2004 Documents said to be sensitive to the sex trial of seven men on remote Pitcairn Island need to be returned, the High Court in Auckland has been told. The Pitcairn Island governor, represented by Brian Latimour, is asking for a court order to get back documents which a lawyer claims could be highly damaging in the trial of the seven, facing multiple sex charges, due to start on Thursday (NZ time). Auckland lawyer Christopher Harder acts for a person convicted of a sex charge on the island in 1999, but was told today by Justice Rhys Harrison he would be in conflict if he also acted for Leon Salt, a former Pitcairn commissioner, who asked Mr Harder for a legal view on the documents. Mr Harder is cited as the first defendant and Mr Salt as the second defendant in today's High Court hearing. During today's hearing, as tension rose between the judge and Mr Harder, Justice Harrison said he should have referred Mr Salt to another lawyer for advice. "Today the interests of Mr Harder and Mr Salt must diverge," the judge said. "The conflict is self-evident." The judge ruled that Mr Salt, who was not in court, would not be represented at today's hearing. Mr Harder was arguing it was in the public interest for the documents to be released. During the hearing, the judge also ruled that the documents, or pertinent parts of them, must be referred to by page number to prevent publication of the confidential material they contained. The documents have already been disclosed to the court on Pitcairn Island and lawyers both prosecuting and defending the seven men. Proceeding End Quote What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles and what Special Branch don't want you to know. http://www.nutteing2.freeservers.com/dnapr.htm or nutteingd in a search engine Valid email nutteing@fastmail.....fm (remove 4 of the 5 dots) Ignore any other apparent em address used to post this message - it is defunct due to spam.
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"Tinkle" <chimes@piano.com> wrote in message news:<2dbd8mpiebbsbff.270920042038@localhost>...
Arthur Brain wrote: Why don't you name them, since you are so certain of your facts?
Everybody knows who they are.
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Arthur Brain wrote:
Everybody knows who they are.
So, you are all talk. Everybody does not.
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First i've heard reference to Pitcairn shennanigins on main BBC R4 news this morning. Giving knocking copy concerning the trawl to obtain women prepared to trstify http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3699286.stm and latest http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=3559700 Quote Wed 29 Sep 2004 6:51am (UK) Pitcairn Mayor among Seven Sex Abuse Defendants "PA" The mayor of tiny Pitcairn Island - home to the descendants of the 18th-century Bounty mutineers - is among seven men accused in a string of sexual assaults in the isolated community dating back decades, court documents revealed today. Steve Christian, one of the island's most prominent members, is charged along with his son Randy and five other men, on 55 charges, including rape, indecent assault and gross indecency. The court decided to reveal the identities of the accused because everyone on the island, with a population of just 47, already knew who they were and because newspapers and Internet sites outside Pitcairn's jurisdiction already had published the names, Charles Blackie, the chief justice in the trial, said. The names were unveiled as the court rejected an eleventh-hour application by the defence to halt the trials because of alleged judicial bias. The defence had earlier said the lead judge sent to hear the case on the remote Pacific island had shown bias by bowing to pressure from Britain's minister for overseas territories to press for a trial and avoid any out-of-court settlement. It was the latest legal challenge to the trial of the men - who account for half the island's adult male population - over allegations of sex abuse dating back up to 40 years. Blackie, one of three judges overseeing the trial, declined the defence application and said the trial would commence tomorrow morning. The charges against the men stem from 1999 when an islander told a visiting British policewoman she had been sexually abused. Since then, new laws including a child protection act have been enacted and police and social workers have been sent to the island. The defendants could be sentenced to lengthy prison terms if convicted in the trials expected to last up to six weeks. The size and complexity of the case is unprecedented on Pitcairn Island, where descendants of the mutineers on the British navy ship HMS Bounty arrived in 1790. The inhabitants eke out a living by selling postage stamps to collectors and handicrafts to tourists on passing cruise liners. The arrival of three judges, prosecutors, defence attorneys and media has almost doubled the island's population. On Tuesday, a group of women residents on the island came to the defence of the seven charged men at a meeting, claiming the cases had been blown out of proportion and that the victims may have been coerced into testifying. But prosecution witnesses are expected to testify via video links from New Zealand, home to many people who have fled the isolated community. Speaking to reporters on the island, some of the women said underage sex was normal in the community. "There's never been a rape on the island," said one resident, Carol Warren, on New Zealand television today. "I was one of them, I had sex at 12. I went in fully knowing what I was doing and I wasn't forced." "It's like a blight that's been hanging over us for way too long," said Meralda Warren, another female resident. The defendants had a chance to head off trials at a pre-trial hearing last week, but refused to plead guilty when offered the chance - a move that would have cut any sentence they may face. Some islanders argue that if the men are convicted, the tiny community will lose its ability to crew longboats that bring essential supplies to the island - threatening the population's existence. At earlier hearings, suspects' lawyers argued the inhabitants of Pitcairn long ago severed their ties with Britain by burning the boat that carried them to their isolated island after the Bounty mutiny. That argument was rejected, allowing the trials to go ahead. The Pitcairn Islands are a group of five rocky volcanic outcrops - only the largest of which is inhabited - with a combined area of just 18 square miles. They are 9,250 miles from London. Just getting to the island, which has no port or landing strip for aircraft, is a major challenge. Once on the island, people get around using four-wheeled all-terrain vehicles on dirt tracks. End Quote What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles and what Special Branch don't want you to know. http://www.nutteing2.freeservers.com/dnapr.htm or nutteingd in a search engine Valid email nutteing@fastmail.....fm (remove 4 of the 5 dots) Ignore any other apparent em address used to post this message - it is defunct due to spam.
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The previous trial on Pitcairn only got one column- inch in the Times 1898, 08 Nov, p4, col 3 covering the murder, trial and sentence. Presumably no telegraph to Pitcairn. " PITCAIRN ISLANDER SENTENCED TO DEATH:- The cruiser Royalist, which has visited Pitcairn Island recently, took with her a Commission from Suava, Fiji, to try one of the Pitcairn Islanders, named Harry Christian, great-grandson of Fletcher Christian, for a murder committed in June, 1897. Christian admitted having murdered from jealous motives one of the island women and her children, whose bodies he afterwards threw into the sea. The Court, after sitting for a day, sentenced Christian to death, and the Royalist left with him for Suava, where the sentence was to be carried out. " What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles and what Special Branch don't want you to know. http://www.nutteing2.freeservers.com/dnapr.htm or nutteingd in a search engine Valid email nutteing@fastmail.....fm (remove 4 of the 5 dots) Ignore any other apparent em address used to post this message - it is defunct due to spam. -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG
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On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 17:26:06 +0000 (UTC), "Paul Nutteing" <nutteing@quickfindit.com> wrote:
The previous trial on Pitcairn only got one column- inch in the Times 1898, 08 Nov, p4, col 3 covering the murder, trial and sentence. Presumably no telegraph to Pitcairn. " PITCAIRN ISLANDER SENTENCED TO DEATH:- The cruiser Royalist, which has visited Pitcairn Island recently, took with her a Commission from Suava, Fiji, to try one of the Pitcairn Islanders, named Harry Christian, great-grandson of Fletcher Christian, for a murder committed in June, 1897. Christian admitted having murdered from jealous motives one of the island women and her children, whose bodies he afterwards threw into the sea. The Court, after sitting for a day, sentenced Christian to death, and the Royalist left with him for Suava, where the sentence was to be carried out. "
Yes, but he only *murdered* some children. So not nearly as serious as the present allegations. -- Cynic
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On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 17:26:06 +0000 (UTC), "Paul Nutteing" <nutteing@quickfindit.com> wrote: Yes, but he only *murdered* some children. So not nearly as serious as the present allegations. -- Cynic
Perhaps Harry Albert Christian was a puritanic monogamous Englishman and a victim of Pitcairn sexual politcis. He could no abide the wicked ways of his 'wife' and knew or suspected that her kids were not his. It would be interesting to see what was presented as mitigation at his trial, crime passionel ? , the word "jealous" would imply. The rebels in the current trial, the women prosecutiom witnesses, simply settled abroad. What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles and what Special Branch don't want you to know. http://www.nutteing2.freeservers.com/dnapr.htm or nutteingd in a search engine Valid email nutteing@fastmail.....fm (remove 4 of the 5 dots) Ignore any other apparent em address used to post this message - it is defunct due to spam.
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID= 3597187&thesection=news&thesubsection=general Quote Pastors turned blind eye to abuse rumours 04.10.2004 By KATHY MARKS on Pitcairn Island The hymn was Shelter in a Time of Storm, and the sermon delivered in the Seventh Day Adventist Church urged Pitcairners to bond together in adversity. But it will take more than a few platitudes to save this troubled community or redeem the church for its sins of omission. A pastor was stationed on the tiny South Pacific island throughout the period when child rape and abuse were allegedly rampant. But none of the men who served rotating two-year terms reported their concerns about Pitcairn, where the population was converted en masse to Seventh Day Adventism in the late 19th century. After an investigation began into allegations of widespread abuse in 1999, several former pastors said privately they had suspected something was gravely amiss on the island, a British dependency with 47 inhabitants. But Ray Coombe, sent to Pitcairn to minister to the locals during the child sex abuse trials that began last week, claimed after the Sabbath service on Saturday that the church had known nothing about the alleged mistreatment of children. "They [the pastors] may have had an inkling but, to my knowledge, there was nothing that was definitely known," he said. The trials were set to resume today, with a former Pitcairn woman giving evidence against Len Brown, 78, who is charged with raping her twice about 35 years ago. Steve Christian, the mayor, will then go back into the dock, followed by Dennis Christian, charged with two indecent assaults and two sexual assaults. Seven men are facing the Pitcairn Supreme Court and another six Pitcairners - now living abroad - are expected to go on trial in Auckland next year. Mr Coombe told a congregation of about 15 locals - who included two defendants, Jay Warren and Terry Young - that the past week had been a historic but difficult time for Pitcairn. "The peaceful, unhurried and carefree atmosphere has been interrupted," he said. In an apparent reference to bitter divisions in the community, he added: "The more we feel threatened and under attack, the more we need to bond together and help each other." Mr Coombe said afterwards that every family in the closely interconnected community was affected by the trials, being related either to the defendants or their alleged victims. The church, meanwhile, is still in denial. Mr Coombe has not heard any of the evidence against the men, which includes allegations that Steve Christian raped an 11-year-old while two friends held her down and Dave Brown, another defendant, forced a 5-year-old girl to give him oral sex. Neither have the vast majority of locals, who have shunned the trials. Mr Coombe said he had stayed away because he wished to remain neutral. That means, presumably, that he is hearing only the islanders' version of events: that all the alleged incidents involved consensual sex and girls mature early on Pitcairn. As Edmund Burke said, all that is required for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing. End Quote What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles and what Special Branch don't want you to know. http://www.nutteing2.freeservers.com/dnapr.htm or nutteingd in a search engine Valid email nutteing@fastmail.....fm (remove 4 of the 5 dots) Ignore any other apparent em address used to post this message - it is defunct due to spam.
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