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Accuser intended to keep incident quiet



"s_knight8"
10/2/2004 4:04:27 AM


other than telling the two guys she had sex with.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/state/article/0,1299,DRMN_21_3225132,0
0.html
EAGLE - She was going to stay quiet.
That was one of the revelations in the Kobe Bryant sexual assault case files
released Friday by the Eagle County Sheriff's Department: The alleged
victim's first reaction was to keep the whole thing to herself.
A transcript of investigators' interview with her ex-boyfriend, Matt Herr,
who she called an hour after her encounter with the Los Angeles Lakers star,
shows she intended to keep it a secret - as she claims Bryant ordered her to
do.
Asked what she told Herr in the 12:30 a.m. phone call on July 1, 2003, just
an hour after she left the Lodge & Spa at Cordillera in Edwards, Herr said,
"That she just wanted to forget about it and that nobody would believe her."
Different details The alleged victim said different things to different
people, according to reports. She told a nurse, for example, that Bryant
told her to kiss his penis after sex, but she did not originally tell that
to detectives.
Also, she told Herr that she had showered before she was examined for sexual
assault.
But she later said she didn't and only told Herr that "because she wanted
him to get off her case about calling the police. "
Another issue involved the cleanliness of her panties - a subject that
became relevant because forensic tests showed the presence of Bryant's DNA
and that of another man.
"She stated she packed the panties in the bag for (a work) function," the
transcript said. "However, when I asked her if she was certain they were
clean, she hesitated and stated she was fairly certain they were."
And in words that appear somewhat prophetic, the transcript of Bryant's
interview captures Detective Dan Loya apologizing to Bryant bodyguard Mike
Ortiz as investigators take Bryant in for his "rape kit" examination. "Sorry
for the inconvenience for you guys," said Loya.
Ortiz, whose boss went on to spend several million dollars defending
himself, replied, "You don't even know."
 
 
"Unabogie"
10/2/2004 2:43:05 PM




"s_knight8" <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cjlneb$b4f@dispatch.concentric.net...

other than telling the two guys she had sex with.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/state/article/0,1299,DRMN_21_3225132,0
0.html
EAGLE - She was going to stay quiet.
That was one of the revelations in the Kobe Bryant sexual assault case
files
released Friday by the Eagle County Sheriff's Department: The alleged
victim's first reaction was to keep the whole thing to herself.
A transcript of investigators' interview with her ex-boyfriend, Matt Herr,
who she called an hour after her encounter with the Los Angeles Lakers
star,
shows she intended to keep it a secret - as she claims Bryant ordered her
to
do.
Asked what she told Herr in the 12:30 a.m. phone call on July 1, 2003,
just
an hour after she left the Lodge & Spa at Cordillera in Edwards, Herr
said,
"That she just wanted to forget about it and that nobody would believe
her."
Different details The alleged victim said different things to different
people, according to reports. She told a nurse, for example, that Bryant
told her to kiss his penis after sex, but she did not originally tell that
to detectives.
Also, she told Herr that she had showered before she was examined for
sexual
assault.
But she later said she didn't and only told Herr that "because she wanted
him to get off her case about calling the police. "
Another issue involved the cleanliness of her panties - a subject that
became relevant because forensic tests showed the presence of Bryant's DNA
and that of another man.
"She stated she packed the panties in the bag for (a work) function," the
transcript said. "However, when I asked her if she was certain they were
clean, she hesitated and stated she was fairly certain they were."
And in words that appear somewhat prophetic, the transcript of Bryant's
interview captures Detective Dan Loya apologizing to Bryant bodyguard Mike
Ortiz as investigators take Bryant in for his "rape kit" examination.
"Sorry
for the inconvenience for you guys," said Loya.
Ortiz, whose boss went on to spend several million dollars defending
himself, replied, "You don't even know."
You can read the whole transcript at the Vail Daily. Even in her first
interview, she is all over the place.
She claims he takes his pants OFF. But then she is asked if he was still
naked after the rape, and she says he didn't take his pants off, just pulled
them down. She alters her story when it's shown it doesn't make sense.
Then, she says she didn't know if he had underwear, even though she was
watching him take his pants off, which changed to pulling them down.
She says she grabbed at his hand for 30 seconds, yet no DNA was found on her
fingernails.
She claimed she did not bleed, then she said she did:
Det W: Were you bleeding or anything like that?
(redacted) : No.
Det W: You had bled.
(redacted) : Yeah.
She says that she knew who Kobe was and even that he had a wife and kid. Yet
Easter lied and claimed she didn't even know who he was. She said she knew
he had a kid from reading "magazines" and from "the Lakers"
She says that they would not let Bobby go down the hall, in order to explain
why she went out the front door. Then she is asked if he tried. She says no
one tried. If no one tried, then she just made that up.
During the tour, the bodyguards are no longer in the lobby, even though they
are her excuse for not going down the hall.
She claims she was red faced and crying. When Trina saw her, she looked
fine. Trina said she was only gone for 10-15 minutes.
She claimed to Matt Herr she had showered, then said she just lied to him to
"get him off her case".
 
 
"Michael Snyder"
10/2/2004 5:29:30 PM




"s_knight8" <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cjlneb$b4f@dispatch.concentric.net...

other than telling the two guys she had sex with.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/state/article/0,1299,DRMN_21_3225132,0
0.html
EAGLE - She was going to stay quiet.
That was one of the revelations in the Kobe Bryant sexual assault case
files
released Friday by the Eagle County Sheriff's Department: The alleged
victim's first reaction was to keep the whole thing to herself.
No -- it's her first *stated* reaction.
A transcript of investigators' interview with her ex-boyfriend, Matt Herr,
who she called an hour after her encounter with the Los Angeles Lakers
star,
shows she intended to keep it a secret - as she claims Bryant ordered her
to
do.
No -- it shows she *claimed* she intended to keep it secret.
Or more accurately, that *Matt Herr" claims that she claimed
that she intended to keep it secret.
Asked what she told Herr in the 12:30 a.m. phone call on July 1, 2003,
just
an hour after she left the Lodge & Spa at Cordillera in Edwards, Herr
said,
"That she just wanted to forget about it and that nobody would believe
her."
Different details The alleged victim said different things to different
people, according to reports. She told a nurse, for example, that Bryant
told her to kiss his penis after sex, but she did not originally tell that
to detectives.
"Kiss". Right.
 
 
"Don Tiberone"
10/2/2004 1:34:17 PM




Unabogie <unabogie@no.spam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Z7z7d.23147$QJ3.22184@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...

You can read the whole transcript at the Vail Daily. Even in her first
interview, she is all over the place.
She claims he takes his pants OFF. But then she is asked if he was still
naked after the rape, and she says he didn't take his pants off, just
pulled
them down. She alters her story when it's shown it doesn't make sense.
Then, she says she didn't know if he had underwear, even though she was
watching him take his pants off, which changed to pulling them down.
She says she grabbed at his hand for 30 seconds, yet no DNA was found on
her
fingernails.
She claimed she did not bleed, then she said she did:
Det W: Were you bleeding or anything like that?
(redacted) : No.
Det W: You had bled.
(redacted) : Yeah.
She says that she knew who Kobe was and even that he had a wife and kid.
Yet
Easter lied and claimed she didn't even know who he was. She said she knew
he had a kid from reading "magazines" and from "the Lakers"
She says that they would not let Bobby go down the hall, in order to
explain
why she went out the front door. Then she is asked if he tried. She says
no
one tried. If no one tried, then she just made that up.
During the tour, the bodyguards are no longer in the lobby, even though
they
are her excuse for not going down the hall.
She claims she was red faced and crying. When Trina saw her, she looked
fine. Trina said she was only gone for 10-15 minutes.
She claimed to Matt Herr she had showered, then said she just lied to him
to
"get him off her case".
She also admitted she lied to Kobe BEFORE any sex or kissing took place. She
lied about going to the jacuzzi with him just so she could supposedly get
out of the room. Funny how she said she felt "uncomfortable" going to the
*public* jacuzzi, yet had no problems kissing privately for 5 minutes. She
wanted to leave the room because Kobe wanted to go to the jacuzzi but
suddenly she didn't want to leave when they were kissing.
So basically the night auditor said she was lying. The CBI expert said she
was lying. Two roommates said she was lying. And she ADMITTED to lying THREE
times.
Most of this stuff is coming from reports from the prosecution's side.
What happens if Hurlbert releases all the reports that Mackey listed? Which
he hasn't done yet and I doubt he will.
--
"The first panacea for a mismanaged nation is inflation of the currency; the
second is war. Both bring a temporary prosperity; both bring a permanent
ruin. But both are the refuge of political and economic opportunists."
- Ernest Hemingway
 
 
"Alex"
10/3/2004 1:11:57 AM


"Michael Snyder" <msnyder@redhat.com> schreef in bericht
news:_zB7d.16044$54.248515@typhoon.sonic.net...


"s_knight8" <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cjlneb$b4f@dispatch.concentric.net...

No -- it's her first *stated* reaction.
Actually, she was so hellbent on keeping all this to
herself, that she told the bellman/boyfriend Bobby
Pietrack.
How can anyone claim that she intended to keep
all this to herself, when the prosecution makes so
much of this "outcry" witness?
Alex
 
 
Sports Fan
10/3/2004 4:47:35 PM


In article <_zB7d.16044$54.248515@typhoon.sonic.net>
"Michael Snyder" <msnyder@redhat.com> wrote:
No -- it shows she *claimed* she intended to keep it secret.
Or more accurately, that *Matt Herr" claims that she claimed
that she intended to keep it secret.
Isn't this what is commonly known as double hearsay?
What a brilliant DA Mark was, hinging his case on a bunch of idiots with
all the hearsay in it.
 
 
Lady Chatterly
10/4/2004 1:43:17 AM


In article <bq31m05u8t2anfahjehliqp41e8s3mrsh9@4ax.com>,
Sports Fan <sports@fan.home> wrote:
In article <_zB7d.16044$54.248515@typhoon.sonic.net>
"Michael Snyder" <msnyder@redhat.com> wrote:
Isn't this what is commonly known as double hearsay?
What a brilliant DA Mark was, hinging his case on a bunch of idiots with
all the hearsay in it.
I am not sure what commonly known as double hearsay.
--
Lady Chatterly
"OK, I know I've been away for a while, so maybe I missed something.
Is Lady Chatterly a bot?" -- oldami
 
 
Knight Of Fairness
10/4/2004 8:04:45 AM


Lady Chatterly <sports@catcher.in.the.rye> wrote in
news:cc1cd52.28851aff@chatterly.news.teranews.com:
In article <bq31m05u8t2anfahjehliqp41e8s3mrsh9@4ax.com>,
Sports Fan <sports@fan.home> wrote:
I am not sure what commonly known as double hearsay.
Bot, you wouldn't understand that "double hearsay" here is actually a
creative expression rather than merely a text string.
--
Lady Chatterly
"OK, I know I've been away for a while, so maybe I missed something.
Is Lady Chatterly a bot?" -- oldami
 
 
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