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While Bush continues to claim Kerry voted for war against Iraq, then voted against it, this claim couldn't be further from the truth. In short, Bush is lying about Kerry. As Kerry tried to make clear in the debate, he did NOT vote for war, but voted to give Bush authority to go to war AS A LAST RESORT in the event all other attempts to disarm Hussein failed. And he made clear "we must act in concert with allies around the globe" before taking this action. And as it turns out, Bush did not use war as a last resort, and did not act in concert with the global community. Here are Kerry's actual words before the Senate on October 9, 2002 when he voted to give the president authority to use force: "When I vote to give the President of the United States the authority to use force, if necessary, to disarm Saddam Hussein, it is because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a threat, and a grave threat, to our security and that of our allies in the Persian Gulf region. I will vote yes because I believe it is the best way to hold Saddam Hussein accountable. And the administration, I believe, is now committed to a recognition that war must be the last option to address this threat, not the first, and that we must act in concert with allies around the globe to make the world's case against Saddam Hussein. As the President made clear earlier this week, 'Approving this resolution does not mean that military action is imminent or unavoidable.' It means 'America speaks with one voice.' Let me be clear, the vote I will give to the President is for one reason and one reason only: To disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction, if we cannot accomplish that objective through new, tough weapons inspections in joint concert with our allies. In giving the President this authority, I expect him to fulfill the commitments he has made to the American people in recent days--to work with the United Nations Security Council to adopt a new resolution setting out tough and immediate inspection requirements, and to act with our allies at our side if we have to disarm Saddam Hussein by force. If he fails to do so, I will be among the first to speak out. If we do wind up going to war with Iraq, it is imperative that we do so with others in the international community, unless there is a showing of a grave, imminent--and I emphasize 'imminent'--threat to this country which requires the President to respond in a way that protects our immediate national security needs."
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In article <7571b5ea.0410021232.34792f35@posting.google.com>, laddiejr@aol.com (BillyJoe) wrote:
"When I vote to give the President of the United States the authority to use force, if necessary, to disarm Saddam Hussein, it is because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a threat, and a grave threat, to our security and that of our allies in the Persian Gulf region. I will vote yes because I believe it is the best way to hold Saddam Hussein accountable. And the administration, I believe, is now committed to a recognition that war must be the last option to address this threat, not the first, and that we must act in concert with allies around the globe to make the world's case against Saddam Hussein.
I feel sorry for you because you are so homely but I feel even sorrier for other people because they have to look at you.
As the President made clear earlier this week, 'Approving this resolution does not mean that military action is imminent or unavoidable.' It means 'America speaks with one voice.'
You do understand what I mean by that term, don't you?
Let me be clear, the vote I will give to the President is for one reason and one reason only: To disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction, if we cannot accomplish that objective through new, tough weapons inspections in joint concert with our allies.
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In giving the President this authority, I expect him to fulfill the commitments he has made to the American people in recent days--to work with the United Nations Security Council to adopt a new resolution setting out tough and immediate inspection requirements, and to act with our allies at our side if we have to disarm Saddam Hussein by force. If he fails to do so, I will be among the first to speak out.
The complaints I have heard of you I do not all believe; 'tis my slowness that I do not, for I know you lack not folly to commit them and have ability enough to make such knaveries yours.
If we do wind up going to war with Iraq, it is imperative that we do so with others in the international community, unless there is a showing of a grave, imminent--and I emphasize 'imminent'--threat to this country which requires the President to respond in a way that protects our immediate national security needs."
If a man be great, even his dog will wear a proud look. -- Lady Chatterly "haven't you got a gardener to molest somewhere?" -- Vampi Fangs
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Of course what's relavent is not what Kerry said in debate; it's what the actual resolution he voted for said. The text of Public Law 107-243 ("AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY FORCE AGAINST IRAQ RESOLUTION OF 2002") is clear on its face, as is its title: it specifically authorizes the use of military force to enforce all 17 UN Resolutions, including Resolution 1441; THE AUTHORIZATION IS UNCONDITIONAL. Read it for yourself: (a) Authorization.--The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to-- (1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and (2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq. And if that's not clear enough, the resolution provides: (c) War Powers Resolution Requirements. (1) Specific statutory authorization.--Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution. (2) Applicability of other requirements.--Nothing in this joint resolution supersedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution. Of course, the War Powers Resolution is in all likelihood unconstitutional; the President, as Commander in Chief, does not need Congressional approval to send troops into action. For the full text see http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=107_cong_public_laws&docid=f:publ243.107.pdf laddiejr@aol.com (BillyJoe) wrote in message news:<7571b5ea.0410021232.34792f35@posting.google.com>...
While Bush continues to claim Kerry voted for war against Iraq, then voted against it, this claim couldn't be further from the truth. In short, Bush is lying about Kerry. As Kerry tried to make clear in the debate, he did NOT vote for war, but voted to give Bush authority to go to war AS A LAST RESORT in the event all other attempts to disarm Hussein failed. And he made clear "we must act in concert with allies around the globe" before taking this action. And as it turns out, Bush did not use war as a last resort, and did not act in concert with the global community. Here are Kerry's actual words before the Senate on October 9, 2002 when he voted to give the president authority to use force: "When I vote to give the President of the United States the authority to use force, if necessary, to disarm Saddam Hussein, it is because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a threat, and a grave threat, to our security and that of our allies in the Persian Gulf region. I will vote yes because I believe it is the best way to hold Saddam Hussein accountable. And the administration, I believe, is now committed to a recognition that war must be the last option to address this threat, not the first, and that we must act in concert with allies around the globe to make the world's case against Saddam Hussein. As the President made clear earlier this week, 'Approving this resolution does not mean that military action is imminent or unavoidable.' It means 'America speaks with one voice.' Let me be clear, the vote I will give to the President is for one reason and one reason only: To disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction, if we cannot accomplish that objective through new, tough weapons inspections in joint concert with our allies. In giving the President this authority, I expect him to fulfill the commitments he has made to the American people in recent days--to work with the United Nations Security Council to adopt a new resolution setting out tough and immediate inspection requirements, and to act with our allies at our side if we have to disarm Saddam Hussein by force. If he fails to do so, I will be among the first to speak out. If we do wind up going to war with Iraq, it is imperative that we do so with others in the international community, unless there is a showing of a grave, imminent--and I emphasize 'imminent'--threat to this country which requires the President to respond in a way that protects our immediate national security needs."
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