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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1896551
DENVER -- A federal judge on Wednesday rejected a request from the woman
accusing NBA star Kobe Bryant of rape to remain anonymous, saying the
public's interest in open court proceedings outweighs her desire to shield
her identity.
"The parties appear as equals before the court and that fundamental
principle must be protected throughout these proceedings," U.S. District
Judge Richard Matsch said in a four-page decision. No trial date has been
set.
Attorneys for the 20-year-old woman had asked Matsch to protect her
identity, saying she has been subjected to death threats, media pursuit and
sordid publicity for more than a year. Attorneys for Bryant opposed the
request earlier this week, saying she shouldn't be able to bring a "false
accusation" without being identified.
An attorney for the woman, John Clune, said he had not seen the ruling and
had no immediate comment. He said there were no plans to drop the civil
suit, which seeks unspecified damages for what the woman says has been
ridicule, pain and suffering since the incident.
Matsch said if he allows the woman to remain anonymous it could be
misconstrued as a prejudgement in her favor.
"It is apparent that the adjudication of the plaintiff's claims by trial
will require the jury to determine the credibility of the parties, and that
the defendant must have a fair opportunity to confront his accuser," Matsch
said. "Public confidence in the results of court proceedings require that
they be open to observation."
The defense had said the woman wanted to preserve her anonymity "while
exposing the intimate details of her sexual encounter with Mr. Bryant and
requiring him to bear alone the burden of constant public scrutiny." It said
there was no point to it because her name is so easily found online.
"Her anonymity, such as it is, is in the hands of the media," the defense
said in its filing.
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In article <ck25ko$hv0@dispatch.concentric.net>,
s_knight8 <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1896551
DENVER -- A federal judge on Wednesday rejected a request from the woman
accusing NBA star Kobe Bryant of rape to remain anonymous, saying the
public's interest in open court proceedings outweighs her desire to shield
her identity.
"The parties appear as equals before the court and that fundamental
principle must be protected throughout these proceedings," U.S. District
Judge Richard Matsch said in a four-page decision. No trial date has been
set.
Attorneys for the 20-year-old woman had asked Matsch to protect her
identity, saying she has been subjected to death threats, media pursuit and
sordid publicity for more than a year. Attorneys for Bryant opposed the
request earlier this week, saying she shouldn't be able to bring a "false
accusation" without being identified.
If Bryant's attorneys can call her a false accuser, it's only fair
that her attorneys should be allowed to call her a victim.
By the way, your subject line is a lie.
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in article ck2au6$mif@rac1.wam.umd.edu, tjab at tjab@wam.umd.edu wrote on
10/6/04 7:50 PM:
In article <ck25ko$hv0@dispatch.concentric.net>,
s_knight8 <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
If Bryant's attorneys can call her a false accuser, it's only fair
that her attorneys should be allowed to call her a victim.
Well she is the victim of "ridicule, pain and suffering since the incident,"
which she brought on herself by making the false accusation. So I guess I
agree.
By the way, your subject line is a lie.
Why? Isn't that her real name?
George Evans
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"s_knight8" <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:ck25ko$hv0@dispatch.concentric.net:
DENVER -- A federal judge on Wednesday rejected a request from the
woman accusing NBA star Kobe Bryant of rape to remain anonymous,
saying the public's interest in open court proceedings outweighs her
desire to shield her identity.
She wanted to be anonymous for the *civil* trial?
Oh, *that's* @$#*ing rich.
--Robert
--
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My Head Is Filled with Yeast
http://www.livejournal.com/users/spimby/
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"George Evans" <georgee@pe.net> schreef in bericht news:BD8A0F7C.3E9%georgee@pe.net...
in article ck2au6$mif@rac1.wam.umd.edu, tjab at tjab@wam.umd.edu wrote on
10/6/04 7:50 PM:
Well she is the victim of "ridicule, pain and suffering since the incident,"
which she brought on herself by making the false accusation. So I guess I
agree.
Why? Isn't that her real name?
Actually it's Katelyn Kristine Faber.
Alex
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"Robert N. Lee" <cranchingwire@earthhibbyjibbyjeelink.net> wrote in message news:<Xns957AEB70AA4CDcranchingwireearthli@207.217.125.201>...
"s_knight8" <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:ck25ko$hv0@dispatch.concentric.net:
She wanted to be anonymous for the *civil* trial?
Oh, *that's* @$#*ing rich.
--Robert
She hasn't been anonymous since Kobe's lawyers "mistakenly" said her
name 4 times in court.
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Astrid wrote:
She hasn't been anonymous since Kobe's lawyers "mistakenly" said her
name 4 times in court.
That's pretty revisionist. Via a quick Google search of
alt.sports.basketball.nba.la-lakers, her full name has
been available since July 15, 2003. In addition, a few
media outlets (The Globe and Tom Leykis come to mind) began
naming her soon thereafter. So it was publicly available
long before the preliminary hearing.
The preliminary hearing, on the other hand, did nothing
to reveal her name. One, it was already well known to
anybody who cared by that time. Two, the hearing was not
broadcast -- only the people present heard Mackey say her
name, and I sincerely doubt anyone in attendance didn't
already know it. Can you cite a single case of someone
not knowing her name prior to the hearing, hearing it for
the first time from Mackey, and as a result of that
releasing it publicly?
Larry Coon
University of California
The NBA Salary Cap FAQ:
http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm
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"Robert N. Lee" <cranchingwire@earthhibbyjibbyjeelink.net> wrote in
message news:<Xns957AEB70AA4CDcranchingwireearthli@207.217.125.201>...
She hasn't been anonymous since Kobe's lawyers "mistakenly" said her
name 4 times in court.
Liar. Her identity was public long before that.
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"Larry Coon" <lcnospam@assist.org> schreef in bericht news:41656610.51CE@assist.org...
Astrid wrote:
That's pretty revisionist. Via a quick Google search of
alt.sports.basketball.nba.la-lakers, her full name has
been available since July 15, 2003. In addition, a few
media outlets (The Globe and Tom Leykis come to mind) began
naming her soon thereafter. So it was publicly available
long before the preliminary hearing.
The preliminary hearing, on the other hand, did nothing
to reveal her name. One, it was already well known to
anybody who cared by that time. Two, the hearing was not
broadcast -- only the people present heard Mackey say her
name, and I sincerely doubt anyone in attendance didn't
already know it. Can you cite a single case of someone
not knowing her name prior to the hearing, hearing it for
the first time from Mackey, and as a result of that
releasing it publicly?
The prosecutor has been hoping that the notoriety of this
case and the fact that Kobe was immediately identified,
would lead to women coming forward with similar claims
against him.
I wonder if people will now come forward to accuse
Katelyn Faber of crying "rape" before.
Alex
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In article <ck2au6$mif@rac1.wam.umd.edu>
tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote:
In article <ck25ko$hv0@dispatch.concentric.net>,
s_knight8 <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
If Bryant's attorneys can call her a false accuser,
Because accusations are assumed not true until proven, moron.
it's only fair
that her attorneys should be allowed to call her a victim.
No because there was no proof that a crime was committed.
By the way, your subject line is a lie.
Not it is not, in fact it is closer to the truth that whatever you
posted in the past.
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In article <7a0bac06.0410070713.b21b4df@posting.google.com>
erinperry30@hotmail.com (Astrid) wrote:
"Robert N. Lee" <cranchingwire@earthhibbyjibbyjeelink.net> wrote in message news:<Xns957AEB70AA4CDcranchingwireearthli@207.217.125.201>...
She hasn't been anonymous since Kobe's lawyers "mistakenly" said her
name 4 times in court.
Bull#@($.
She was exposed before that.
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In article <vndjm0tanh6g4c68ggf84r91lq4hj0ruta@4ax.com>, Sports Fan
wrote:
In article <7a0bac06.0410070713.b21b4df@posting.google.com>
erinperry30@hotmail.com (Astrid) wrote:
Bull#@($.
She was exposed before that.
Why do so many kooks live in Texas?
--
Lady Chatterly
"I agree with this bot's poast." -- Russell B Waters
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In article <aldjm01ef0b6arhjq8kerjsp95rja651mn@4ax.com>, Sports Fan
wrote:
Because accusations are assumed not true until proven, moron.
The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible
worlds; and the pessimist fears this is true.
No because there was no proof that a crime was committed.
She claims she's really his lover and not his mom.
Not it is not, in fact it is closer to the truth that whatever you
posted in the past.
Certainly, there is no truth in your words.
--
Lady Chatterly
"I doubt you think more than the Lady Chatterly bot, but at least
she's somewhat coherent. What's your excuse, Goofy?" -- Cujo
DeSockpuppet
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In article <aldjm01ef0b6arhjq8kerjsp95rja651mn@4ax.com>,
Sports Fan <sports@fan.home> wrote:
In article <ck2au6$mif@rac1.wam.umd.edu>
tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote:
Because accusations are assumed not true until proven, moron.
I guess you didn't know that "perjurer" is an accusation.
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In article <cke93p$rl7@rac1.wam.umd.edu>
tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote:
In article <aldjm01ef0b6arhjq8kerjsp95rja651mn@4ax.com>,
Sports Fan <sports@fan.home> wrote:
I guess you didn't know that "perjurer" is an accusation.
Latest weak attempt to troll from someone who already was proven wrong
so much that she is trying to dance her way out of tall this.
Grow up.
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In article <77lmm09rkprnn72k54cv4ite2oge2f3j3i@4ax.com>,
sportsfart <sports@fan.home> wrote:
In article <cke93p$rl7@rac1.wam.umd.edu>
tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote:
Latest weak attempt to troll from someone who already was proven wrong
so much that she is trying to dance her way out of tall this.
Were I like thee, I would throw away myself.
Grow up.
A hard-on doesn't count as personal growth.
--
Lady Chatterly
"ha, that's not a bot. she corrects my typo. oh, you are a
self-fighter because you fight against somebody who will always fight
you." -- yyyiiinnnggg
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There is sympathies but too much is taken advantage of when there is
nothing off limits.
I'm sorry.
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In article <kvmmm0pa1dm1rsopeklimfohkhhlphkfgq@4ax.com>,
Mikes <Smokes@lot.here.com> wrote:
I'm sorry.
How long have you felt you are sorry?
--
Lady Chatterly
"Um, "Lady Chatterly" is a software engineered "read, understand and
reply" bot. Most likely a google test pilot." -- connor_a
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 4:41:41 GMT, Lady Chatterly
<Smokes@catcher.in.the.rye> wrote:
In article <kvmmm0pa1dm1rsopeklimfohkhhlphkfgq@4ax.com>,
Mikes <Smokes@lot.here.com> wrote:
How long have you felt you are sorry?
Heh, grade 10 when an in your face gender war accelerated well beyond
words... I guess about 15 years ago.
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Lady Chatterly <Smokes@catcher.in.the.rye> wrote in
news:5546c2f.dd950b3f@news02.roc.ny:
In article <kvmmm0pa1dm1rsopeklimfohkhhlphkfgq@4ax.com>,
Mikes <Smokes@lot.here.com> wrote:
How long have you felt you are sorry?
since he hit send button.
--
Lady Chatterly
"Um, "Lady Chatterly" is a software engineered "read, understand and
reply" bot. Most likely a google test pilot." -- connor_a
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Lady Chatterly <sports@catcher.in.the.rye> wrote in
news:eb3dc07.bd29f7ae@pita.alt.net:
In article <77lmm09rkprnn72k54cv4ite2oge2f3j3i@4ax.com>,
sportsfart <sports@fan.home> wrote:
Were I like thee, I would throw away myself.
dumb #@&@
, you'd throw yourself in.
A hard-on doesn't count as personal growth.
depends on if in standing or lying positon. do you see the power of
tluth?
--
Lady Chatterly
"ha, that's not a bot. she corrects my typo. oh, you are a
self-fighter because you fight against somebody who will always fight
you." -- yyyiiinnnggg
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In article <Xns95809EBF768BFswellundersurfacedee@207.14.113.17>,
swellundersurface <swell@deep.non> wrote:
Lady Chatterly <Smokes@catcher.in.the.rye> wrote in
news:5546c2f.dd950b3f@news02.roc.ny:
since he hit send button.
You have since fallen in with others of your inferior ilk and have
bonded rather well ... like #@($e to anal hairs.
--
Lady Chatterly
"ha, that's not a bot. she corrects my typo. oh, you are a
self-fighter because you fight against somebody who will always fight
you." -- yyyiiinnnggg
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In article <Xns9580A1D23501sushibuffetfestdeepe@207.14.113.17>,
sushibuffetfest <swell2@deep.non> wrote:
Lady Chatterly <sports@catcher.in.the.rye> wrote in
news:eb3dc07.bd29f7ae@pita.alt.net:
dumb #@&@
, you'd throw yourself in.
You're the world's greatest proof of reincarnation. No one could be
that dumb in just one lifetime.
Grow up.
A hard-on doesn't count as personal growth.
depends on if in standing or lying positon. do you see the power of
tluth?
.or ... is it just plain old-fashion lying?
--
Lady Chatterly
"Lady Chatterly is a software program that generates posts, Stupid."
-- Meat-->Plow
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In article <cke93p$rl7@rac1.wam.umd.edu>
tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote:
Latest weak attempt to troll from someone who already was proven wrong
so much that she is trying to dance her way out of tall this.
Shut up #@&@
.
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 17:25:45 -0600, "Tony" <Tony@aol.com> wrote:
Shut up #@&@
.
Speaking of #@&@
es, you're running out of nyms.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=NNTP-Posting-Host%3A+24.10.142.171&hl=en
You are one stupid owned #@&@
.
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In article <n1qom09mqbqor2re9mh56cq2jqgeim921f@4ax.com>,
sportsfart <sports@fan.home> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 17:25:45 -0600, "Tony" <Tony@aol.com> wrote:
Speaking of #@&@
es, you're running out of nyms.
Like a lame man's legs that hang limp is a proverb in the mouth of a
fool.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.10.142.171&hl=en
You are one stupid owned #@&@
.
He that is born to be hanged shall never be drowned.
--
Lady Chatterly
"And whats up with this Lady chatterly thing? what type of fa66ot made
that? WTF Is that supposed to be? Is that some sort of mascott?" --
rikijo
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