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i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health condition
that is permanent, has no cure
even though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now due to
long term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant even
get a job through job agency
i have maxed out all my credit cards to pay rent and food and am about to be
homeless
i have heard people say some beggars can make as much as 200 or 300 a day
do you think this is a good idea? i am in such a bad state it might be my
only source of income till i die
my only concern is could i get in trouble with the law?
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Millions of Business are doing this DAILY. The CHEAT so GO AHEAD
You wont get in trouble as long as you are not Caught!!
i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health condition
that is permanent, has no cure
even though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now due
to long term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant
even get a job through job agency
i have maxed out all my credit cards to pay rent and food and am about to
be homeless
i have heard people say some beggars can make as much as 200 or 300 a day
do you think this is a good idea? i am in such a bad state it might be my
only source of income till i die
my only concern is could i get in trouble with the law?
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On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:38:08 -0400, "destitute" <destitute@need.$$$>
wrote:
i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health condition
that is permanent, has no cure
even though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now due to
long term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant even
get a job through job agency
i have maxed out all my credit cards to pay rent and food and am about to be
homeless
Better apply for welfare .. that's what its for.
Joel'
i have heard people say some beggars can make as much as 200 or 300 a day
do you think this is a good idea? i am in such a bad state it might be my
only source of income till i die
my only concern is could i get in trouble with the law?
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Wow! Those grubs at the Golden Horseshoe Saloon are a good deal!
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:38:08 -0400, "destitute" <destitute@need.$$$>
wrote:
Better apply for welfare .. that's what its for.
He should apply for disability. Most states won't give welfare to men, and
those that do don't pay ejnough to live on.
One problem. They turn down everyone the first couple times. You could be
paralized from the neck down and get turned down for disability. It will
probably take more than a year before he gets his first check.
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i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health condition
that is permanent, has no cure
even though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now due
to
long term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant even
get a job through job agency
i have maxed out all my credit cards to pay rent and food and am about to
be
homeless
i have heard people say some beggars can make as much as 200 or 300 a day
do you think this is a good idea? i am in such a bad state it might be my
only source of income till i die
my only concern is could i get in trouble with the law?
Why not talk with a full time beggar?
Seriously.
I sit and talk with them all the time when I'm downtown. Pull
up and cop a squat on the park bench next to 'em. I'll share
my lunch or a smoke or just some conversation.
I'm sure you find that most are lucky to generate 10% of
the revenue figures you mention above -- on a GoodDay, and
on a BadDay, will make literally nothing.
They'll have the inside track on the local law enforcement
scene, shelters, food banks, etc. and can answer your
questions.
To answer your question -- no I don't think it's a good
idea. I do think, however, if you find some street folks
and get to know 'em real well, you'll understand for yourself
why it's not such a GoodIdea. Only you can judge for
yourself. Make it your mission to talk with three full-time
beggars a week for the next week or three.
To tell you, honestly, if you're looking at this *seriously*,
then "trouble with the law" could be just what you need.
They'll put you up in a heated/air-conditioned room for
two, with 3 meals a day, healthcare, dental, gym, excercise
yard -- you get it. "Three hots-and-a-cot" from the local
county jail would surely beat living on the streets.
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destitute wrote:
i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health condition
that is permanent, has no cure
even though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now due to
long term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant even
get a job through job agency
i have maxed out all my credit cards to pay rent and food and am about to be
homeless
Yet you have internet access? Sort of like all the people in the food
bank line in New York City who had cable TV.
i have heard people say some beggars can make as much as 200 or 300 a day
Claim you are a Vietnam vet and you are sick from the Agent Oregano, or
whatever it's called. Failing that, claim you are sick from depleted
uranium from the first Gulf War.
do you think this is a good idea? i am in such a bad state it might be my
only source of income till i die
The huge government we have that spends most of its money on social
programmes never even crossed your mind? Failing that, go to a church,
tell them you love Jesus (or Buddha, Mohammed, that Moon guy who marries
thousands at a whack as appropriate) and see if they will let you sleep
in a pew.
my only concern is could i get in trouble with the law?
What sort of trouble that all the other people who are begging on the
side of the road don't seem to get into?
--
"And he did bring them. It took a number of years, but one by one he
brought them here. Except for his father, that old man died where he was
born." -+ "Elia Kazan, "America, America"
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On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 19:37:03 GMT, "Bootstrap Bill"
<wrcousert@yahoo.com> wrote:
He should apply for disability. Most states won't give welfare to men, and
those that do don't pay ejnough to live on.
Right you are! THANKS.
Joel
One problem. They turn down everyone the first couple times. You could be
paralized from the neck down and get turned down for disability. It will
probably take more than a year before he gets his first check.
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On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:38:08 -0400, "destitute" <destitute@need.$$$>
wrote:
i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health condition
that is permanent, has no cure
even though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now due to
long term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant even
get a job through job agency
i have maxed out all my credit cards to pay rent and food and am about to be
homeless
i have heard people say some beggars can make as much as 200 or 300 a day
do you think this is a good idea? i am in such a bad state it might be my
only source of income till i die
my only concern is could i get in trouble with the law?
try selling your computer and stop paying for a connection
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On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 15:36:47 -0400, "Sgt. Sausage" <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
Why not talk with a full time beggar?
Around here, many charge you a consultation fee, however, if you are
just shopping (for a good street corner) some offer the first
half-hour's advice for only $25.
Joel
Seriously.
I sit and talk with them all the time when I'm downtown. Pull
up and cop a squat on the park bench next to 'em.
Not too-o-oo-o-o-oo close now ...
Know what cooties are?
I'll share
my lunch or a smoke or just some conversation.
I'm sure you find that most are lucky to generate 10% of
the revenue figures you mention above -- on a GoodDay, and
on a BadDay, will make literally nothing.
They'll have the inside track on the local law enforcement
scene, shelters, food banks, etc. and can answer your
questions.
To answer your question -- no I don't think it's a good
idea. I do think, however, if you find some street folks
and get to know 'em real well, you'll understand for yourself
why it's not such a GoodIdea. Only you can judge for
yourself. Make it your mission to talk with three full-time
beggars a week for the next week or three.
To tell you, honestly, if you're looking at this *seriously*,
then "trouble with the law" could be just what you need.
They'll put you up in a heated/air-conditioned room for
two, with 3 meals a day, healthcare, dental, gym, excercise
yard -- you get it. "Three hots-and-a-cot" from the local
county jail would surely beat living on the streets.
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On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:46:37 -0700, "Bill Bonde ( ``This is the Battle
of Epping Forest '' )" <stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote:
destitute wrote:
Yet you have internet access? Sort of like all the people in the food
bank line in New York City who had cable TV.
Ahemmmmm. All beggars have internet access. How else would they be
able to keep up with the latest developments at www.beggar.com or vote
for their international president.?
Joel
Claim you are a Vietnam vet and you are sick from the Agent Oregano, or
whatever it's called. Failing that, claim you are sick from depleted
uranium from the first Gulf War.
The huge government we have that spends most of its money on social
programmes never even crossed your mind? Failing that, go to a church,
tell them you love Jesus (or Buddha, Mohammed, that Moon guy who marries
thousands at a whack as appropriate) and see if they will let you sleep
in a pew.
What sort of trouble that all the other people who are begging on the
side of the road don't seem to get into?
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On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 15:32:59 -0400, Joel M. Eichen
<joeleichen@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:38:08 -0400, "destitute" <destitute@need.$$$>
wrote:
Better apply for welfare .. that's what its for.
Joel'
Show me ONE state in the US - ANY state in the US that offers welfare
or food stamp benefits for single people without children. IT DOESN'T
EXIST. If you aren't dragging a couple of illigetimate hump dumplings
along, the US of A would just as soon watch you starve and freeze to
death. They only care about FAMBLIES, don't you know?
Em
Be careful what you wish for....
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<snip>
try selling your computer and stop paying for a connection
How do you know it's *his* computer and connection?
Why can't he be at the library or using a friends computer and connection?
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Chuck <chuck@host.invalid> wrote:
<snip>
How do you know it's *his* computer and connection?
Why can't he be at the library or using a friends computer and connection?
It's an obvious troll. Selling your computer and giving up your
Internet connection might feed you for one day, but it will not pay
your rent/mortgage, put food on your table, clothes on your back, pay
for doctors/medicines/hospital, etc. etc. etc. for the rest of your
life.
If it could, there would be nobody online.
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On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 21:26:06 GMT, "Chuck" <chuck@host.invalid> wrote:
<snip>
How do you know it's *his* computer and connection?
Why can't he be at the library or using a friends computer and connection?
Did he buy a token to get to the library .....?
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Joe wrote:
Chuck <chuck@host.invalid> wrote:
It's an obvious troll. Selling your computer and giving up your
Internet connection might feed you for one day, but it will not pay
your rent/mortgage, put food on your table, clothes on your back, pay
for doctors/medicines/hospital, etc. etc. etc. for the rest of your
life.
If it could, there would be nobody online.
CompuServe used to charge like 15 bucks an hour to be online. Kept the
riff-raff offline, it did.
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brought them here. Except for his father, that old man died where he was
born." -+ "Elia Kazan, "America, America"
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It's hard to believe that no temp or job agency will place you in any type
of employment. The temp agencies around here will just about accept anyone
who truly wants to work regardless of past employment history, experience,
physical condition... but screw them over on assignments too many times by
not coming in or complaining and they will blacklist you quick. Local temp
agencies usually "talk" among themselves, so screw one over and none of them
may want you. Don't expect good pay or easy conditions, but if you truly
want to work and make money some temp agency will hire you.
Also, think of your hobbies and interests and how you could possibly make a
buck doing them. Everyone does at least one thing well.
i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health condition
that is permanent, has no cure
even though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now due
to
long term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant even
get a job through job agency
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"Bill Bonde ( ``This is the Battle of Epping Forest '' )"
Joe wrote:
CompuServe used to charge like 15 bucks an hour to be online. Kept the
riff-raff offline, it did.
And the trend of unlimited internet access for a low price became popular
and the "riff-raff" was everywhere on the internet, eventually becoming out
of hand. A perfect example is Bill Bonde
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On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 21:26:06 GMT, "Chuck" <chuck@host.invalid> wrote:
<snip>
How do you know it's *his* computer and connection?
Why can't he be at the library or using a friends computer and connection?
learn how to read a header
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"Joel M. Eichen" wrote:
"destitute" <destitute@need.$$$> wrote:
Better apply for welfare .. that's what its for.
Somebody told you that you couldn't do both?
i have heard people say some beggars can make as much as 200 or 300 a day
do you think this is a good idea? i am in such a bad state it might be my
only source of income till i die
my only concern is could i get in trouble with the law?
How? All they can do is roust you or give you an overnight stay until
you sober up, if necessary. Make up a fake name and don't carry your
driver's license. Let THEM prove you don't live in the shrubbery by the
underpass.
Maybe if you stand in the middle of a freeway overpass with a WILL JUMP
FOR FOOD sign you could make more than just looking pitiful at an
off-ramp.
There's a local loon who threatens to jump from freeway overpasses every
couple of months or so. One of the cops now specializes in people like
this. The cop talks him down/off, they clean him up, hold him for psych
evaluation for a couple of weeks and then turn him loose. I've read
about at least a dozen of his attempts. He did actually jump once,
smashed his foot-bones and was fitted with prosthetic devices at public
expense. If I saw him I'd start chanting JUMP JUMP JUMP just to see
what happens. He's clearly a danger to the public as well as himself
and ought to be locked up somewhere. Period.
--
Cheers,
Bev
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Where am I and what am I doing in this handbasket?
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On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 21:26:06 GMT, "Chuck" <chuck@host.invalid> wrote:
learn how to read a header
If you are so good, and it is that important, teach us all how to read
them...
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On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 23:58:23 GMT, "Chuck" <chuck@host.invalid> wrote:
If you are so good, and it is that important, teach us all how to read
them...
like the jerk who wants to be a professional beggar, you'll need to
find things out for yourself
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"destitute" <destitute@need.$$$> wrote in message news:<ck6mqo$5fj$0@pita.alt.net>...
i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health condition
that is permanent, has no cure
even though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now due to
long term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant even
get a job through job agency
i have maxed out all my credit cards to pay rent and food and am about to be
homeless
i have heard people say some beggars can make as much as 200 or 300 a day
do you think this is a good idea? i am in such a bad state it might be my
only source of income till i die
my only concern is could i get in trouble with the law?
You mean you plan to cheat on your income tax? Begging is legal in
some places but not reporting it as income is illegal.
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i have heard people say some beggars can make as much as 200 or 300 a day
Actually more...look how much the two beggers make that are
trying to lead our country.
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Auntie Em <AuntieEM@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<5o0em0974ev8vnus8nb4rp8fiseq0j5cn3@4ax.com>...
On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 15:32:59 -0400, Joel M. Eichen
<joeleichen@yahoo.com> wrote:
Show me ONE state in the US - ANY state in the US that offers welfare
or food stamp benefits for single people without children. IT DOESN'T
EXIST. If you aren't dragging a couple of illigetimate hump dumplings
along, the US of A would just as soon watch you starve and freeze to
death. They only care about FAMBLIES, don't you know?
In New York State a single person earning a gross monthly income
of $973 a month is eligable for $141 in food stamps. I didn't
bother with checking the other 49 since you asked for just one.
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On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 23:58:23 GMT, "Chuck" <chuck@host.invalid> wrote:
like the jerk who wants to be a professional beggar, you'll need to
find things out for yourself
Oh.. OK... I could really care less about the header... I thought that you
were volunteering your services though.
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Chuck wrote:
"Bill Bonde ( ``This is the Battle of Epping Forest '' )"
And the trend of unlimited internet access for a low price became popular
and the "riff-raff" was everywhere on the internet, eventually becoming out
of hand. A perfect example is Bill Bonde
I don't have to be told not to take a leak in the corner, like in that
movie.
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Chuck wrote:
Oh.. OK... I could really care less about the header... I thought that you
were volunteering your services though.
So you could care less?
--
"And he did bring them. It took a number of years, but one by one he
brought them here. Except for his father, that old man died where he was
born." -+ "Elia Kazan, "America, America"
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On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:38:08 -0400, "destitute" <destitute@need.$$$>
wrote:
i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health condition
that is permanent, has no cure
even though i have a business degree i'm pretty much unemployable now due to
long term unemployment. i dont even get called on interviews, i cant even
get a job through job agency
You have a computer and Internet access - why not work from home? Lots
of people telecommute full time.
--
Friends don't let friends shop at Best Buy.
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On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:46:37 -0700, "Bill Bonde ( ``This is the Battle
of Epping Forest '' )" <stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote:
Claim you are a Vietnam vet and you are sick from the Agent Oregano, or
whatever it's called. Failing that, claim you are sick from depleted
uranium from the first Gulf War.
Don't laugh. Become a Tibetan or a Falungong monk. Becoming a Hare
Krishnan devotee works too. You will get to beg professionally and be
respected for doing it. The hours and meals are regular and you get
to go back to a warm place to shower and to sleep.
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"Scott en Aztln" wrote:
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:38:08 -0400, "destitute" <destitute@need.$$$>
wrote:
You have a computer and Internet access - why not work from home? Lots
of people telecommute full time.
You mean somebody will pay us to do usenet? Why wasn't I told about
this before?
--
Cheers, Bev
Why should I be tarred with the epithet "loony" merely
because I have a pet halibut? --Monty Python
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"The Real Bev" <bashley@myrealbox.com> wrote in message news:41676D87.BFBB5AE1@myrealbox.com...
"Scott en Aztln" wrote:
You mean somebody will pay us to do usenet?
Why wasn't I told about this before?
Trailer trash with viking fantasys need not apply.
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Wow! Those grubs at the Golden Horseshoe Saloon are a good deal!
On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 15:32:59 -0400, Joel M. Eichen
<joeleichen@yahoo.com> wrote:
Show me ONE state in the US - ANY state in the US that offers welfare
or food stamp benefits for single people without children. IT DOESN'T
EXIST. If you aren't dragging a couple of illigetimate hump dumplings
along, the US of A would just as soon watch you starve and freeze to
death. They only care about FAMBLIES, don't you know?
Yes it does exist. Los Angeles county pays single people $212 per month plus
$120 in food stamps. I have a neighbor who was receiving for a short time
after his unemployment ran out.
Single people can get food stamps anywhere in the country.. None of this is
free money however. Able bodied people are required to work for it by doing
some form of community service.
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On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 03:51:41 GMT, PaPaPeng <papapeng@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 12:46:37 -0700, "Bill Bonde ( ``This is the Battle
of Epping Forest '' )" <stderr2@backpacker.com> wrote:
Don't laugh. Become a Tibetan or a Falungong monk. Becoming a Hare
Krishnan devotee works too. You will get to beg professionally and be
respected for doing it. The hours and meals are regular and you get
to go back to a warm place to shower and to sleep.
Where do you buy discount orange robes and get those little clacker
things?
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On 8 Oct 2004 19:05:21 -0700, smiths213@famsafe.net (Gary) wrote:
i have heard people say some beggars can make as much as 200 or 300 a day
Actually more...look how much the two beggers make that are
trying to lead our country.
EXCELLENT!
But its hard worr-r-r-r-r-rr--r-k I hear.
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On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 21:48:07 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashley@myrealbox.com> wrote:
"Scott en Aztln" wrote:
You mean somebody will pay us to do usenet? Why wasn't I told about
this before?
There are gazillions of signs on telephone poles, stuck in mailboxes,
and on car windshields ... WORK FROM HOME ... but I think they are all
"SIGN UP OTHERS ..." to work from home!
Its a huge Ponzi scheme!
Joel
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"destitute" <destitute@need.$$$> wrote in ...
i have been unemployed for several years due to chronic health condition
that is permanent, has no cure
you can't mow lawns, can't give massage, internet is flooded with money scams,
your health wouldn't stop you doing business consulting over the web, save up
$500 and get a traffic name like freeadvice.biz. that ones probably available to register,
to get customers just email all the similar sites (a few hundred hand done emails) and ask
for a link. its the webmasters code, the only way you get something for nothing is trade links.
*networking in a nutshell*. I make $5 a day off the net doing nothing, took me a while, adds
to unemployment payment nicely.
you can do it!
Herc
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