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Men who abuse boys are attacked only by *white* inmates who were *themselves abused as kids* or are *individually warm-hearted/hot-hearted*. Otherwise they are treated no different from other common criminals [theives, murderers-of-other-males, drug-dealers, etc.]. Men who abuse girls, OTOH, are tortured to death by other inmates in a lynch-mob manner. Put a little girl in men's jail. She'll be totally safe. No inmate will touch her even if given permission. Put a little boy in men's jail and sure enough those sexually-starved misandrist macho bigots will heinously abuse the poor child to unspeakable extents. Juvenile prisons treat little boys very badly. Little boys who have been accused of 'hitting girls' are treated the worst by other inmates. Fuck. I hate the society of humans. I have a pre-adolescent son who is 2 right now. I don't want him going to jail just because he looks at a girl. I read frightening truthful news in the daily paper about boys as young as 4 being put in jail for 'rape' even if the girl forced sex on the boy and/or she is bigger/older than him. These helpless little boys are treated very savagely by teenage and older boys. They are rountinely sexually-abused, physically-tortured, and often killed by the bigger boys. Many of the teenage boys are legal 'pedophiles'. Many of the bigger boys are 16 or above and many of the little boys are below 14 and are 5 or more years apart in age. Yet no one condemns these brutal baby-raping, infant-killing, adult-resembling, cold-hearted, teen boys. Little boys who are accused of 'rape' of girls are indeed treated the worst by other inmates. Statutory rape laws are not meant to protect children from adults. They protect 'underage' girls from males of any age. These laws to nothing to protect boys. They send the horrifying message that it is okay for a full-blown adult man to rape a male infant but unacceptable for a male infant to even accidentally look at a girl. I demand that statutory rape laws be made gender-neutral. John Geoghan was murdered by another individual inmate named Joseph L. Druce. Druce was himself molested as a kid. Revenge was the cause to kill Geoghan. However, Geoghan was killed by only Druce -- who was trying to avenge only his one personal childhood -- and not by a mob. Geoghan actually gained sympathy from the public!!!! If only Geoghan had molested girls, the other inmates would have ganged-up on him and tortured him to a slow, painful, yet sure death in a lynch-mob type manner. If Geoghan molested girls, no one would sympathize with him. If Geoghan molested girls, he would have been brutally killed by crowds of inmates in ways so horrifying that thinking about it puts me in a dissociative state. Because Geoghan molested only boys, the society of humans didn't show him much condemnation. The society of humans in prison is no different from the society of humans outside prison. Men who steal girls' toys are attacked by lynch-mobs of inmates. Men who rape and kill boys are -- if ever attacked -- are only attacked by individual inmates [like Druce] who himself suffered childhood abuse. Men who are in jail/prison for abusing girls face a pre-historic type of condemnation from other inmates. This violent condemnation is not meted out by the legal system, not meant to avenge personal abuse [unlike Druce who wanted to take revenge on his childhood trauma], BUT a kind of cold-hearted torture meted out by the general public. This sexism against men/boys existed ever since humans formed a society, it is -- and always was -- in all cultures of the society of humans. The men/boys of the public always -- and in all cultures -- directly treated little girls better* than little boys ever since humans formed a society. *Better = more compassion, more sympathy, more respect, more gentleness, more empathy, more cleanliness, more protection, more luxury, more personal space, more privacy, more security, etc. This male-against-male sexism is an ancient form of anti-male sexism that existed -- in all cultures -- ever since humans formed a society. If Michael Jackson goes to jail, the major reason he would need protective custody is because he is effeminate. Effeminate men are targets of nazi-like persecution just like men who abuse girls. The fact that he molested kids is irrelevant to his safety in prison because those kids are only boys and no girls. Unless of course, there is another Druce.
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In the year of our Lord 8 Oct 2004 16:30:33 -0700, masculism_virism@yahoo.com (Fair For All) wrote:
Men who abuse boys are attacked only by *white* inmates who were *themselves abused as kids* or are *individually warm-hearted/hot-hearted*.
I don't know where you heard this, but you need to re-evaluate your source..... Morphy's ghost I do not approve of anything that tampers with natural ignorance. Ignorance is like a delicate exotic fruit; touch it and the bloom is gone. The whole theory of modern education is radically unsound. -- Oscar Wilde
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Prove it. When has a little girl been placed in a men's prison, and how long was she "safe" for? Show us your data. Also, if you raise your son with the proper values, he shouldn't go to jail/prison over what he may yet do to a girl. Looking at a girl isn't going to get you put in prison, unless you intend to teach him to be a peeping tom. Raise him to respect women, treat them right, and not bother them, and he should be alright. I've been raised right, can't you do the same for your son?
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"Chris" <RRUFIANGE@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message news:<JKbad.16039$zY6.364@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>...
When has a little girl been placed in a men's prison,
Never. I'm talking if something like this ever happened.
and how long was she "safe" for?
Forever. Men who abuse girls are violently loathed by other inmates.
Also, if you raise your son with the proper values, he shouldn't go to jail/prison over what he may yet do to a girl. Looking at a girl isn't going to get you put in prison, unless you intend to teach him to be a peeping tom. Raise him to respect women, treat them right, and not bother them, and he should be alright. I've been raised right, can't you do the same for your son?
All I ask is that the lynch mobs: 1. Realize that a child is a child regardless of gender 2. Treat a child no better/worse based on gender 3. Respect the scientifically-proven fact that little girls are stronger than little boys and be 'tougher' w/ girls than w/ boys. Its fair to be 'tougher' w/ the stronger and 'easier' w/ the weaker 4. Condemn same-gender abuse of/among children as much as male-to-female abuse of/among children 5. Condemn female-to-male abuse of/among children as much as male-to-female abuse of/among children 6. Not treat children accused of sex acts as harsh as adults who do the same 7. Treat girls who rape boys as harshly -- maybe more harshly since girls are stronger -- as boys who rape girls.
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masculism_virism@yahoo.com (Fair For All) wrote in message news:<72836ece.0410081530.655e14d7@posting.google.com>...
Men who abuse boys are attacked only by *white* inmates who were *themselves abused as kids* or are *individually warm-hearted/hot-hearted*. Otherwise they are treated no different from other common criminals [theives, murderers-of-other-males, drug-dealers, etc.]. Men who abuse girls, OTOH, are tortured to death by other inmates in a lynch-mob manner. Put a little girl in men's jail. She'll be totally safe. No inmate will touch her even if given permission. Put a little boy in men's jail and sure enough those sexually-starved misandrist macho bigots will heinously abuse the poor child to unspeakable extents. Juvenile prisons treat little boys very badly. Little boys who have been accused of 'hitting girls' are treated the worst by other inmates. Fuck. I hate the society of humans. I have a pre-adolescent son who is 2 right now. I don't want him going to jail just because he looks at a girl. I read frightening truthful news in the daily paper about boys as young as 4 being put in jail for 'rape' even if the girl forced sex on the boy and/or she is bigger/older than him. These helpless little boys are treated very savagely by teenage and older boys. They are rountinely sexually-abused, physically-tortured, and often killed by the bigger boys. Many of the teenage boys are legal 'pedophiles'. Many of the bigger boys are 16 or above and many of the little boys are below 14 and are 5 or more years apart in age. Yet no one condemns these brutal baby-raping, infant-killing, adult-resembling, cold-hearted, teen boys. Little boys who are accused of 'rape' of girls are indeed treated the worst by other inmates. Statutory rape laws are not meant to protect children from adults. They protect 'underage' girls from males of any age. These laws to nothing to protect boys. They send the horrifying message that it is okay for a full-blown adult man to rape a male infant but unacceptable for a male infant to even accidentally look at a girl. I demand that statutory rape laws be made gender-neutral. John Geoghan was murdered by another individual inmate named Joseph L. Druce. Druce was himself molested as a kid. Revenge was the cause to kill Geoghan. However, Geoghan was killed by only Druce -- who was trying to avenge only his one personal childhood -- and not by a mob. Geoghan actually gained sympathy from the public!!!!
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If Geoghan molested girls, he would have been brutally killed by crowds of inmates in ways so horrifying that thinking about it puts me in a dissociative state. Because Geoghan molested only boys, the society of humans didn't show him much condemnation. The society of humans in prison is no different from the society of humans outside prison.
[cutting for brevity] I see some truth in your concept... however, you must not forget the factor of prison being an abusive place to all who are stuck there to rot away their lives. The environment of hate and violence of prison is multiplied by those running the prison who do all they can to make prisoners hate each other. This includes telling other prisoners that certain of them are "child molesters" no matter whether they were or not. Your concept that the "society of people inside the prison is the same as that outside"... well the "society of people outside the prison" is for the most part ignorant of what goes on hidden behind the razor wire...This is why politicians wont let the media in to see the horrors first hand. So many politician's political carears have been fundamentally created from the corrupt of the political powerhouses of the prison industry that getting the sleeping public to shine the spotlight on this corruption will not be easy.
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"Chris" <RRUFIANGE@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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Never. I'm talking if something like this ever happened. Forever. Men who abuse girls are violently loathed by other inmates.
Maybe you haven't been made aware of this before, but if something has NEVER happened, you can't say with any certainty what the results would be. You will just have to wait for a little girl to be placed in a men's prison, and then find out what happens. Until then, you're only guessing. Also, with a larger number of convicted pedophiles appearing in prison lately, it may only be a matter of time before they form their own societal niche in the prison population. Lastly, in order for your statement to be viable, you'd have to assume that any inmate released in the general population were 100% safe. This is not the case, and has never been the case. Use another example, as this one is not going to work.
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"Chris" <RRUFIANGE@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message news:<%6wad.4955$yP2.896@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>...
Lastly, in order for your statement to be viable, you'd have to assume that any inmate released in the general population were 100% safe. This is not the case, and has never been the case.
True. A common inmate maybe dangerous to other men/boys, may kill and molest boy children, may steal or sell/use drugs. However, there is an extremely small chance of him harming a little girls. It about as probable as a lynch mob of men/boys blaming a girl for being raped by a man -- i.e. the chance is immeasureably small. Nothing is 100%. Nothing is 0%. The universe is analog [infinite possibilities], not digital, and certainly not binary [only black/white, yes/no 1/0, etc].
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In article <a1aeea44.0410112032.323221fd@posting.google.com>, virism_pro_virism@yahoo.com (Virism Pro_Virism) wrote:
"Chris" <RRUFIANGE@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message news:<%6wad.4955$yP2.896@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>... True. A common inmate maybe dangerous to other men/boys, may kill and molest boy children, may steal or sell/use drugs. However, there is an extremely small chance of him harming a little girls. It about as probable as a lynch mob of men/boys blaming a girl for being raped by a man -- i.e. the chance is immeasureably small. Nothing is 100%. Nothing is 0%. The universe is analog [infinite possibilities], not digital, and certainly not binary [only black/white, yes/no 1/0, etc].
The most overlooked advantage to owning a computer is that if they foul up there's no law against whacking them around a little. -- Lady Chatterly "ha, that's not a bot. she corrects my typo. oh, you are a self-fighter because you fight against somebody who will always fight you." -- yyyiiinnnggg
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