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http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~28682~2456063,00.html
"I told Detective (Doug) Winters that on that morning while leaving Grand
Junction, I had car troubles. That is not true. When I called in late to
work that day, that was the reason I gave my boss for being late. In all
reality, I simply overslept."
The woman wrote that she was "very sorry for not telling the real reason why
I was late to work that day."
She then went on to correct another misstatement, that Bryant forced her to
wash her face after their encounter in his room.
"I am extremely disappointed in myself and also very sorry to anyone who was
mislead (sic) by my mix-up of information," the accuser said. "While there
is no excuse for that mix-up, I said what I said because I felt that
Detective Winters did not believe what had happened to me. In reporting this
crime, one of my fears was that I would not be believed."
A hotel maid, Suany Leticia Nunez, reported finding spots of blood on
Bryant's sheets and a used condom in the trashcan, although Bryant and the
woman said the sexual encounter occurred over a chair and that no condom was
used.
The maid, who found a $10 tip on the bed, said she sent the sheets to the
laundry without mentioning them to anybody.
Coupled with the Oct. 1 release of 200 pages of information from the
sheriff's department, the carefully redacted records paint a fuller picture
of the investigation.
At least 68 separate documents were withheld for undisclosed reasons.
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http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~28682~2456063,00.html
"I told Detective (Doug) Winters that on that morning while leaving Grand
Junction, I had car troubles. That is not true. When I called in late to
work that day, that was the reason I gave my boss for being late. In all
reality, I simply overslept."
The woman wrote that she was "very sorry for not telling the real reason
why
I was late to work that day."
She then went on to correct another misstatement, that Bryant forced her
to
wash her face after their encounter in his room.
"I am extremely disappointed in myself and also very sorry to anyone who
was
mislead (sic) by my mix-up of information," the accuser said. "While there
is no excuse for that mix-up, I said what I said because I felt that
Detective Winters did not believe what had happened to me. In reporting
this
crime, one of my fears was that I would not be believed."
A hotel maid, Suany Leticia Nunez, reported finding spots of blood on
Bryant's sheets and a used condom in the trashcan, although Bryant and the
woman said the sexual encounter occurred over a chair and that no condom
was
used.
This is a weird one. Both Kobe and Kate Faber say the sex took place
without a condom and over the chair. So where did this condom come from and
why did the maid come up with story months later?
My only guess is that she assumed a condom was used and made this up,
because it does not match either story.
The maid, who found a $10 tip on the bed, said she sent the sheets to the
laundry without mentioning them to anybody.
Coupled with the Oct. 1 release of 200 pages of information from the
sheriff's department, the carefully redacted records paint a fuller
picture
of the investigation.
At least 68 separate documents were withheld for undisclosed reasons.
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Condom? How many rapists take the time to put one of those on, and how many
victims would sit around and wait while it's being put on?
http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~28682~2456063,00.html
"I told Detective (Doug) Winters that on that morning while leaving Grand
Junction, I had car troubles. That is not true. When I called in late to
work that day, that was the reason I gave my boss for being late. In all
reality, I simply overslept."
The woman wrote that she was "very sorry for not telling the real reason
why
I was late to work that day."
She then went on to correct another misstatement, that Bryant forced her
to
wash her face after their encounter in his room.
"I am extremely disappointed in myself and also very sorry to anyone who
was
mislead (sic) by my mix-up of information," the accuser said. "While there
is no excuse for that mix-up, I said what I said because I felt that
Detective Winters did not believe what had happened to me. In reporting
this
crime, one of my fears was that I would not be believed."
A hotel maid, Suany Leticia Nunez, reported finding spots of blood on
Bryant's sheets and a used condom in the trashcan, although Bryant and the
woman said the sexual encounter occurred over a chair and that no condom
was
used.
The maid, who found a $10 tip on the bed, said she sent the sheets to the
laundry without mentioning them to anybody.
Coupled with the Oct. 1 release of 200 pages of information from the
sheriff's department, the carefully redacted records paint a fuller
picture
of the investigation.
At least 68 separate documents were withheld for undisclosed reasons.
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why
to
was
this
was
This is a weird one. Both Kobe and Kate Faber say the sex took place
without a condom and over the chair. So where did this condom come from
and
why did the maid come up with story months later?
My only guess is that she assumed a condom was used and made this up,
because it does not match either story.
Oh c'mon, he jerked off into a condom afterwards while still having some of
the victims blood on him and his shirt.
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and
Oh c'mon, he jerked off into a condom afterwards while still having some
of
the victims blood on him and his shirt.
If he had a condom, he would have used it during the sex, don't you think?
Plus, why would you jerk off into a condom, then use a shirt to wipe off?
Why not just do it into the shirt, which is exactly what he claimed?
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In article <Q1V9d.8790$nj.8637@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
Unabogie <unabogie@no.spam.hotmail.com> wrote:
If he had a condom, he would have used it during the sex, don't you think?
I'm guessing it's kinda hard to put one on while you've got your hands
around someone's neck.
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In article <Q1V9d.8790$nj.8637@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
Unabogie <unabogie@no.spam.hotmail.com> wrote:
I'm guessing it's kinda hard to put one on while you've got your hands
around someone's neck.
From the NY Daily News:
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/240328p-206105c.html
"First, she confessed she concocted a bogus excuse for why she was late to
work the night she met Bryant at the Lodge & Spa at Cordillera in June 2003.
Although she told Detective Doug Winters she had car trouble, "in all
reality, I simply overslept," she said, adding she didn't want to get in
trouble with her boss at the hotel.
More importantly, she disclosed she also made up her claim that after they
had sex, Bryant forced her to stay in the room and wash her face.
"While I was held against my will in that room, I was not forced to wash my
face . . . Instead I stopped at the mirror by the elevator on that floor to
clean my face up," she wrote.
"While there is no excuse for that mixup, I said what I said because I felt
that Detective Winters did not believe what had happened to me," she added.
"In reporting this crime one of my fears was that I would not be believed."
The accuser had the opportunity to correct her lie a couple of months after
she told it, when a prosecution investigator re-interviewed her.
But she didn't.
"Why did you wash your face before leaving the room?" the investigator
asked.
"I was crying. I had mascara on my face," she answered.
She didn't set the record straight until a few weeks before Bryant was set
to go to trial when she wrote the letter - which was among 625 pages of
documents unsealed yesterday."
So, she lied. She just made #@($ up to make her story more believable. And
you still think he choked her, even though she had no marks on her neck at
all?
Yeah, right.
Even a nutjob like you knows the truth by now.
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On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 12:55:18 -0400, "tinydancer"
<tinydancer@nowhere.com> wrote:
Oh c'mon, he jerked off into a condom afterwards while still having some of
the victims blood on him and his shirt.
yeah that must be it, guys jerk off into condoms all the time...
<rolls eyes>
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In article <APV9d.27117$QJ3.22575@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
Unabogie <unabogie@no.spam.hotmail.com> wrote:
From the NY Daily News:
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/240328p-206105c.html
"First, she confessed she concocted a bogus excuse for why she was late to
work the night she met Bryant at the Lodge & Spa at Cordillera in June 2003.
Although she told Detective Doug Winters she had car trouble, "in all
reality, I simply overslept," she said, adding she didn't want to get in
trouble with her boss at the hotel.
More importantly, she disclosed she also made up her claim that after they
had sex, Bryant forced her to stay in the room and wash her face.
"While I was held against my will in that room, I was not forced to wash my
face . . . Instead I stopped at the mirror by the elevator on that floor to
clean my face up," she wrote.
"While there is no excuse for that mixup, I said what I said because I felt
that Detective Winters did not believe what had happened to me," she added.
"In reporting this crime one of my fears was that I would not be believed."
The accuser had the opportunity to correct her lie a couple of months after
she told it, when a prosecution investigator re-interviewed her.
But she didn't.
"Why did you wash your face before leaving the room?" the investigator
asked.
"I was crying. I had mascara on my face," she answered.
She didn't set the record straight until a few weeks before Bryant was set
to go to trial when she wrote the letter - which was among 625 pages of
documents unsealed yesterday."
So, she lied. She just made #@($ up to make her story more believable. And
you still think he choked her, even though she had no marks on her neck at
all?
Wake up. He told the police he had his hands around her neck.
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In article <APV9d.27117$QJ3.22575@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
Unabogie <unabogie@no.spam.hotmail.com> wrote:
Wake up. He told the police he had his hands around her neck.
No, she claimed he choked her by holding the FRONT of her neck, and cut off
her breathing. He claimed he held the back of her neck with one hand, while
the other hand was on her waist, which she agrees with in her taped
interview.
Det W: Ok. During the incident with urn, him, urn, having sex with you from
behind,
was he doing anything else?
Kate Faber: Just, he had one hand on my neck. And another hand on my waist.
But to Sandberg, she claims he was squeezing her throat while she cried.
Then she made up a lie by claiming she was forced to wash her face in the
bathroom to make her story more sinister.
What a pathological liar.
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tjab <tjab@wam.umd.edu> wrote in message news:ck99u8$nv2@rac1.wam.umd.edu...
So, she lied. She just made #@($ up to make her story more believable.
And
you still think he choked her, even though she had no marks on her neck
at
all?
Wake up. He told the police he had his hands around her neck.
Didn't I tell you she retracted the bathroom story? Still want to claim it
didn't happen?
She basically retracted the lies she couldn't explain.
She couldn't explain what sort of car problem she had so she was forced to
retract it.
She couldn't explain why she didn't use the phone in the bathroom. Not to
menion all the drama she tried to create about the "tears rolling down her
eyes" and her mascara smeared. LOL. Kobe's story was far more accurate so
she had to retract her story to fit Kobe's story.
And supposedly she was crying the whole time yet the night auditor says she
was smiling afterwards. Oh but don't worry. Just claim the night auditor
lied. Faber is a proven and admitted liar. The night auditor has no reason
to lie. For those claiming the night auditor had a grudge against Faber,
hell, Faber said she barely met her that night. Unless that was a lie too.
--
"The first panacea for a mismanaged nation is inflation of the currency; the
second is war. Both bring a temporary prosperity; both bring a permanent
ruin. But both are the refuge of political and economic opportunists."
- Ernest Hemingway
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He had another girl after Kate and he used a rubber.
Condom? How many rapists take the time to put one of those on, and how
many
victims would sit around and wait while it's being put on?
why
to
was
this
was
picture
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in article ck99u8$nv2@rac1.wam.umd.edu, tjab at tjab@wam.umd.edu wrote on
10/9/04 11:16 AM:
In article <APV9d.27117$QJ3.22575@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
Unabogie <unabogie@no.spam.hotmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
From the NY Daily News:
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/240328p-206105c.html
"First, she confessed she concocted a bogus excuse for why she was late to
work the night she met Bryant at the Lodge & Spa at Cordillera in June 2003.
Although she told Detective Doug Winters she had car trouble, "in all
reality, I simply overslept," she said, adding she didn't want to get in
trouble with her boss at the hotel.
More importantly, she disclosed she also made up her claim that after they
had sex, Bryant forced her to stay in the room and wash her face.
"While I was held against my will in that room, I was not forced to wash my
face . . . Instead I stopped at the mirror by the elevator on that floor to
clean my face up," she wrote.
"While there is no excuse for that mixup, I said what I said because I felt
that Detective Winters did not believe what had happened to me," she added.
"In reporting this crime one of my fears was that I would not be believed."
The accuser had the opportunity to correct her lie a couple of months after
she told it, when a prosecution investigator re-interviewed her.
But she didn't.
"Why did you wash your face before leaving the room?" the investigator
asked.
"I was crying. I had mascara on my face," she answered.
She didn't set the record straight until a few weeks before Bryant was set
to go to trial when she wrote the letter - which was among 625 pages of
documents unsealed yesterday."
So, she lied. She just made #@($ up to make her story more believable. And
you still think he choked her, even though she had no marks on her neck at
all?
Wake up. He told the police he had his hands around her neck.
You don't think it's a wee bit of a problem that she embellished her story
in order to be believed and added more fiction when confronted? I mean she's
got a man's life in her hands and she makes up stuff to get him in trouble.
Doesn't that show she is willing to play fast and loose with the law in
order to further an end?
You are the one who needs to wake up.
George Evans
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On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 15:29:22 -0700, George Evans <georgee@pe.net>
You don't think it's a wee bit of a problem that she embellished her story
in order to be believed and added more fiction when confronted? I mean she's
got a man's life in her hands and she makes up stuff to get him in trouble.
Doesn't that show she is willing to play fast and loose with the law in
order to further an end?
That should be more than enough to create reasonable doubt in any jurors
mind.
You are the one who needs to wake up.
George Evans
--
There's no way to delay that trouble comin' everyday
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In article <WFU9d.66402$yp.52796@bignews1.bellsouth.net>
"tinydancer" <tinydancer@nowhere.com> wrote:
and
Oh c'mon, he jerked off into a condom afterwards while still having some of
the victims blood on him and his shirt.
Nice imagination you have.
You should consider a career in writing fiction novels.
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In article <ck99u8$nv2@rac1.wam.umd.edu>
tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote:
In article <APV9d.27117$QJ3.22575@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
Unabogie <unabogie@no.spam.hotmail.com> wrote:
Wake up. He told the police he had his hands around her neck.
Take your own advice, douche bag.
That was during the sex and after the penetration.
If he had a condom, he would put it BEFORE the actual sex took place.
You idiot.
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In article <2lejm0dmccjla4ccn2tjv92933kbsq61cm@4ax.com>, Sports Fan
wrote:
Take your own advice, douche bag.
That was during the sex and after the penetration.
If he had a condom, he would put it BEFORE the actual sex took place.
You idiot.
If you need advice, please consult your friendly neighborhood
sexologist.
--
Lady Chatterly
"I thought I'd <plonked> you, moron." -- Christopher A Lee
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In article <giejm09t0p347i469vfj2fv810cv1ee39k@4ax.com>, Sports Fan
wrote:
Nice imagination you have.
You should consider a career in writing fiction novels.
You may want to ask your doctor to look at that little problem you
have. Yes. It is that little.
--
Lady Chatterly
"Botter? Parkaaaaaaay!" -- Jade
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"I told Detective (Doug) Winters that on that morning while leaving
Grand
Junction, I had car troubles. That is not true. When I called in late
to
work that day, that was the reason I gave my boss for being late. In
all
reality, I simply overslept."
The woman wrote that she was "very sorry for not telling the real
reason
why
I was late to work that day."
She then went on to correct another misstatement, that Bryant forced
her
to
wash her face after their encounter in his room.
"I am extremely disappointed in myself and also very sorry to anyone
who
was
mislead (sic) by my mix-up of information," the accuser said. "While
there
is no excuse for that mix-up, I said what I said because I felt that
Detective Winters did not believe what had happened to me. In
reporting
this
crime, one of my fears was that I would not be believed."
Brilliant. If you're afraid someone doesn't believe you, start lying? I
don't know when she made this admission, but the DA should've called a halt
to the case right then. ("Mix-up"? Doesn't she mean "lies"?) If you can't
be trusted in small matters, who can trust you in important ones?
Linda
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in article 10mlfuvg47059f9@corp.supernews.com, Cliff and Linda Griffith at
grifftex@charter.net wrote on 10/11/04 10:16 AM:
"I told Detective (Doug) Winters that on that morning while leaving Grand
Junction, I had car troubles. That is not true. When I called in late to
work that day, that was the reason I gave my boss for being late. In all
reality, I simply overslept."
The woman wrote that she was "very sorry for not telling the real reason
why I was late to work that day."
She then went on to correct another misstatement, that Bryant forced her
to wash her face after their encounter in his room.
"I am extremely disappointed in myself and also very sorry to anyone who
was mislead (sic) by my mix-up of information," the accuser said. "While
there is no excuse for that mix-up, I said what I said because I felt that
Detective Winters did not believe what had happened to me. In reporting
this crime, one of my fears was that I would not be believed."
Brilliant. If you're afraid someone doesn't believe you, start lying? I
don't know when she made this admission, but the DA should've called a halt
to the case right then. ("Mix-up"? Doesn't she mean "lies"?) If you can't
be trusted in small matters, who can trust you in important ones?
Her actions depend on whether she was concerned for her reputation or for
the money she could get. It is looking more and more that she was more
concerned about the money.
George Evans
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