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"Phil Scott, the critic who trolled, simply let the situation as
it was, with the deliberate intention to portray Scientologists
as fascists. It was only found out months later when I dug up
what was behind these posts."
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The following is part of an article written by "Bernie"
Faxhor
http://bernie.cncfamily.com/sc/trolls.htm
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The incident happened in September 1999, when critics invaded the
alt.flamme.psychiatry newsgroup to attack a Scientologist who was
posting there. Things didn't turn out too well for critics, as
outsiders remarked on critics' rudeness and bigotry:
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djamu@my-deja.com
Message-ID: <7san98$8ue$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
Mr. McKean [the Scientologist] has shown what the vast
majority of ARS commandos have not; respect, humility and
consideration. When Scientologists were politely asked to
leave another mental-health related newsgroup by that
group's regulars, they politely left. And as far as I
know, they haven't been back since. All we've asked is
that people from your newsgroup NOT flood this room with
posts that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.
You have every moral right to counter Mr. McKean's CCHR
posts with related material that illustrates what you
believe to be contradictions. You do not have the moral
right to flood this room with taunting, insults and
accusations.
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Shortly after, a new "Scientologist", "Sue", appeared in
alt.flamme.psychiatry. In reality a critic impersonating a
Scientologist. Contrary to McKlean, "she" was extremely abusive.
Here is one of the many posts "she" made (the header is left
in full for further analysis):
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suer9965@my-deja.com 23 Sep 1999 00:00:00 GMT
From: suer9965@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: Why let Scientologists into this newsgroup
Date: 23 Sep 1999 00:00:00 GMT
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YOu know something DB, we spent over 94.2 million dollars
last year just prosecuting you internet terrorists... we
have files on all you bastards. Big thick ones with photos,
and school recordS, bank records, telephone records...you
getting a hint jerk? And yes Hubbard meant what the hell
he said. YOu people are done for, your families are disease
ridden, even your damn pets stink. you SCUMMY filthy sack
of #@($.
You know LRH said it best the first time, in Dianetics
Modern Science of Mental Health, and I will quote him
exactly "dispose of them quietly and without sorrow", got
that ASSHOLE. He was talking about the scum that cant
make it, the misfits, the jerks of the world, the 2%
suppressives. Get rid of them and the WHOLE WORLD will be
better off. Its right there in black and white asshole,
you better get a clue, we are growing fast, and soon it
will be YOU who is watching your back, not us. Mike McClean
has the courage to do something about it. Thats a LOT more
than I can say about you DB.
arc. sue
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As can be seen, the post is clearly construed to look as if it
comes from a Scientologist, and its apparent purpose is to try
to offset the bad impression critics made on outsiders by trying
to make Scientologist sound even worst.
The real author behind "Sue", however, can be clearly traced to
a regular ARS critics, who was also an assistant on the
Operation Clambake website: Phil Scott. Here is the analysis
that led to this undisputed conclusion:
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mail@bernie.us-inc.com (Bernie)
Message-ID: <39f47557.31595359@enews.newsguy.com>
OK - so what would you say if I told you that this
suer9965@my-deja.com troll was Phil Scott?
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mail@bernie.us-inc.com (Bernie)
Message-ID: <3a0191d9.10336335@enews.newsguy.com>
On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 07:40:16 -0400 ptsc <ptsc@my-deja.com>
wrote in <ts88vs0jejmskug1csd04m97f8cqd69l42@4ax.com>:
On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 23:22:41 GMT, mail@bernie.us-inc.com
(Bernie) wrote:
OK - so what would you say if I told you that this
suer9965@my-deja.com troll was Phil Scott?
I'd say prove it and then say let's smack Phil if it
turns out true.
Well, I dunno about smacking, but here are the evidences
on which I base my opinion:
1) Go to Deja.com, switch to discussion search and type
"effudix", setting the search option to "all". Now examine
the result. Of the whole of usenet, only Phil Scott and
Suer have had the same ailment and the same unique way of
healing, it during the same period.
2) Examine the respective NNTP by choosing "View original
Usenet Format" - they are the same.
3) Click on Suer9965 then on "more" and see how Suer mostly
trolled in the same four newsgroups Phil has been posting
at that time:
ARS, alt.clearing.technology
alt.self-improve
alt.flame.psychiatry
Read some of Suer's troll and see how often she refers to
Phil Scott and how some of her preoccupations are similar.
IMO, the evidences are pretty convincing. What you think?
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mail@bernie.us-inc.com (Bernie)
Message-ID: <39f7279c.48676773@enews.newsguy.com>
On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:36:30 -0400 ptsc <ptsc@my-deja.com>
wrote in <hob9vsk8u9v0grdgsr22elhtendqa62quc@4ax.com>:
On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 19:51:27 GMT, mail@bernie.us-inc.com
(Bernie) wrote:
1) Go to Deja.com, switch to discussion search and
type "effudix", setting the search option to "all".
Now examine the result. Of the whole of usenet,
only Phil Scott and Suer have had the same ailment
and the same unique way of healing, it during the
same period.
Fascinating.
2) Examine the respective NNTP by choosing "View
original Usenet Format" - they are the same.
The same ISP at least. It seems like it might be a
different regional dialup. That could also just be
a result of a large modem pool.
The 206.180.234 IP block has been fairly stab
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Hey Faxhor.. you are a funny guy... you and to go back 5 YEARS
find come cultie boy Bernie who had halucinations about 6
posts by some lady named Sally?
Amazin Faxhor. Yer cult has FORGED a few thousand posts to
the NG's.. that have been traced and testified to by some of
those involved and a few hundred thousand more that fit the
same pattern... and a few hundred sporgeries just lately to
ARS...
Im SURE that no way in hell are YOU involved faxhor. :)
..... regardless its actually all fine in the end..... you
folks have blown both of your feet off.... and are now working
on blowing off your own dicks.... impressive.
Keep up the good work Faxhor. Now..what were we discussing
that you were trying to mask with this distraction?
Oh yes.... your cults utterly crashed stats. Here it is
again, enjoy.. please let me know how OSA is impressed with
your attempt to divert discussion from that issue.
Faxhor typed:
Anyways, look at my other posting today. Phil still
hasn't answered this thread. Because he's a liar. His
statistics
aren't based on any real reference, he either makes them
up
or bases his amateur evaluation on false data provided by
propagandists such as Arnie Lerma and Fred Rice.
actually.... #@($head, the statistics I present
approximate and
are derived from actual head counts at the orgs I visit... so
while approximate they reflect the actual conditions very very
well. I will elaborate.
I often take org tours, seeing the movie, looking over the
academy, interviewing the staff.... and getting an e meter
demonstration.... some of which I write up. I know whats
going on in great detail. So I do a head count and there are
8 people total...and that happens for months in a row.
It is quite true that I dont have an officially accurate
statistic based on all the data...but its very obvious that
they run less than 10 staff.. and surely with the academy
empty, and 5 cars in the parking lot... the student population
is similarly low...not the thousands we had in 1980.
When you see a mission running with a part time receptionist,
very limited hours and the lights out at night... Faxhor....
you know the place is not jumping...is all pretty obvious.
I and others do head counts at pickets.
From these we see 3 to 5 students where there used to be
hundreds... . the SP builing goes vacant with weeds growing
up around it for a year now. open torrents of rain ...downtown
clearwattah, mostly taken over by the criminal cult is about
3/4 ghost town now.
Those are facts Faxhor...visible...
accountable...obvious...facts/
Process servers are closing in yer cults senior
executives....others have gone missing. We have not seen
Jeffrey in amost a year now, and Kendrick Moxon likewise...and
most of the RTC hasnt been seen in almost a year. Davie has
been seen only where he couldnt be subpoenaed....lately on
flash job appearance... in and out real fast... no time for
process servers to home in on him.
Out of thousands of OT-7's and 8's less than 20% over the
last 3 years have done the latest hose job Davie put out...
485 people is all... thousands of others are DONE with the
criminal cult...some show up at our parties faxhor,,,. some
are preparing anti scientology web sites, and books now...
this is being documented on film by professionals...its gonna
be a movie bud... so far with you playing one of the idiots.
Its OVER for scientoloyg Faxhor... you have just been told not
to look is all.
and that new OT-7 and 8 stat is from the cults own magazines
as posted by Cerri and Kristi ...original copies recieved by
some of us in the mail. So Faxhor...thats where Im getting the
rest of my numbers.... they all generally comport.
My view is that there are 50,000 scientologists world wide
(not a bad number)... but that only 10% are active...thats
5,000 active... of those 3,000 brainwashed dingbats staffing
the FLB and outer orgs.. that leaves 2,000 active paying
public.
and thats REAL generous.. if there are 2,000 active paying
public there are NOT in the orgs paying...duh. On my tour
of AOLA there were 20 students at peak weekend times. How to
I know...I toured the org, all 4 floors, escorted and counted
them... one by one faxhor...I counted them. 20
The SF org is running 3 to 5 students.. The LA org.. even
fewer.
But lets say faxhor that there are even more orgs in the world
than scientology even lists.. the list about 250 mostly mail
drops by the way.
But lets assume that there are 500 orgs in the world... and
that each has 100 students and staff ( remember most are mail
drops only no students or staff)...but lets say we double the
org count... and grant them 100 students and staff each...
Faxhor that adds up 50,000 scn's.... so 50,000 is an utter and
complete stretch...even 5,000 active is stretch.
Faxhor... your cult is on its ass... it got there from lying
and attempting to ruin others... not a successful tactic
Faxhor. I hope you are paying attention.
The problem with you pal is that you believe the lies your
cult tells you....thats it.. and you probably have no clue
where it was in the early 80's 700 students each day and
night in the Flag land base academy...down to 20 students two
years later, 1984 under Miscavige.
Thousands of us saw that.. you it seems are a late arrival or
from Gold base, or a relatively new recruit... where you were
kept in the dark have no clue on what is really going
on....all you see is Davies lies and spin.
Now look. You need to know how to tell when Davie is
lying.... watch is lips real carefully.......... if his lips
are flapping Faxhor.. he's lying. that should help.
Even as buildings remain boarded up...and the orgs can't keep
staff or public longer than the first grab at thier wallet....
even with world class impressive renovations and new buildings
your cult population declines by about 10% a year... now to
just a few public in each org..
..... .some go weeks with NO public.
(a few do better... St Louis, KC, Birmingham, and a few
more...with a combined student pupulation under 200... thats
a tenth of what these had prior to 1982... 200 faxhor does not
support any claims of expansion.)
But not to worry faxhor... thats all fine with us... You can
assert what you like... in the end though it will be reality
that prevails.
...despite all the lies... that is fast approaching for
scientology... the entirely closed doors, many more off to
prison, fore-closed upon property... and the utter rage of the
current batch of OT-7's and 8's will speak for themselves/
Will you still be around here lying at that point? Nah...you
will have dissapeared in silence like the hundreds before
you............. poooof. not even an apology for all the
lies, spin, time wasting and bull#@($.
Us critics will not have to do a thing... your cult is taking
itself down, and by keeping you in that dark is making it
worse... you are sent into battle here not only with no
sword...but a rubber duckie instead.
Its just ludicrous.. you are #2512... all on the same pattern
sent in by the criminal cult, all lied to, all with bogus
amunition,,, and all failing. btw just how did that sporge
thang work out?
Just another failed hose job from scientology... impressive
hu?
Trut
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"Phil Scott" <philscott888@sf.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:<U4tad.27850$QJ3.14776@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>...
Hey Faxhor.. you are a funny guy... you and to go back 5 YEARS
find come cultie boy Bernie who had halucinations about 6
posts by some lady named Sally?
"Phil Scott" <philscott888@sf.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:<Metad.27854$QJ3.2652@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>...
its the
Are you talking about Sally, the hypocritial and stupid wife of Steven
Goodman, Phil Scott? She isn't a lady but a fool.
You have a really dirty mind, Phil Scott, to give Faxhor those names.
Seems your mind is fixed on prostitutes. What does that say about you,
Phil? Cool down in front of one of your air conditions before you
start posting.
You also should not blame him on what your friends, the
non-scientological infiltrators as Garry Scarff, Gerry Armstrong,
Jesse Prince and so many others did while smuggling themselves onto
org lines.
And you also should not make crimes up that were never committed.
Barbara Schwarz
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================================================================ "Phil Scott, the critic who trolled, simply let the situation as it was, with the deliberate intention to portray Scientologists as fascists. It was only found out months later when I dug up what was behind these posts." ================================================================ The following is part of an article written by "Bernie" Faxhor http://bernie.cncfamily.com/sc/trolls.htm / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / The incident happened in September 1999, when critics invaded the alt.flamme.psychiatry newsgroup to attack a Scientologist who was posting there. Things didn't turn out too well for critics, as outsiders remarked on critics' rudeness and bigotry: ======================================================== djamu@my-deja.com Message-ID: <7san98$8ue$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Mr. McKean [the Scientologist] has shown what the vast majority of ARS commandos have not; respect, humility and consideration. When Scientologists were politely asked to leave another mental-health related newsgroup by that group's regulars, they politely left. And as far as I know, they haven't been back since. All we've asked is that people from your newsgroup NOT flood this room with posts that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. You have every moral right to counter Mr. McKean's CCHR posts with related material that illustrates what you believe to be contradictions. You do not have the moral right to flood this room with taunting, insults and accusations. ======================================================== Shortly after, a new "Scientologist", "Sue", appeared in alt.flamme.psychiatry. In reality a critic impersonating a Scientologist. Contrary to McKlean, "she" was extremely abusive. Here is one of the many posts "she" made (the header is left in full for further analysis): ======================================================== suer9965@my-deja.com 23 Sep 1999 00:00:00 GMT From: suer9965@my-deja.com Subject: Re: Why let Scientologists into this newsgroup Date: 23 Sep 1999 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <7scm2h$nba$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <7san98$8ue$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <19990922143127.16453.00000527@ng-fu1.aol.com> X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 www.proxymate.com:3128 (Squid/2.2.STABLE4), 1.0 x37.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 204.178.22.18, 204.178.22.18 Organization: Deja.com - Share what you know. Learn what you don't. X-Article-Creation-Date: Thu Sep 23 07:49:39 1999 GMT X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDsuer9965 Newsgroups: alt.flame.psychiatry X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) [snip] YOu know something DB, we spent over 94.2 million dollars last year just prosecuting you internet terrorists... we have files on all you bastards. Big thick ones with photos, and school recordS, bank records, telephone records...you getting a hint jerk? And yes Hubbard meant what the hell he said. YOu people are done for, your families are disease ridden, even your damn pets stink. you SCUMMY filthy sack of #@($. You know LRH said it best the first time, in Dianetics Modern Science of Mental Health, and I will quote him exactly "dispose of them quietly and without sorrow", got that ASSHOLE. He was talking about the scum that cant make it, the misfits, the jerks of the world, the 2% suppressives. Get rid of them and the WHOLE WORLD will be better off. Its right there in black and white asshole, you better get a clue, we are growing fast, and soon it will be YOU who is watching your back, not us. Mike McClean has the courage to do something about it. Thats a LOT more than I can say about you DB. arc. sue ======================================================== As can be seen, the post is clearly construed to look as if it comes from a Scientologist, and its apparent purpose is to try to offset the bad impression critics made on outsiders by trying to make Scientologist sound even worst. The real author behind "Sue", however, can be clearly traced to a regular ARS critics, who was also an assistant on the Operation Clambake website: Phil Scott. Here is the analysis that led to this undisputed conclusion: ======================================================== mail@bernie.us-inc.com (Bernie) Message-ID: <39f47557.31595359@enews.newsguy.com> OK - so what would you say if I told you that this suer9965@my-deja.com troll was Phil Scott? ======================================================== ======================================================== mail@bernie.us-inc.com (Bernie) Message-ID: <3a0191d9.10336335@enews.newsguy.com> On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 07:40:16 -0400 ptsc <ptsc@my-deja.com> wrote in <ts88vs0jejmskug1csd04m97f8cqd69l42@4ax.com>: (Bernie) wrote: OK - so what would you say if I told you that this suer9965@my-deja.com troll was Phil Scott? turns out true. Well, I dunno about smacking, but here are the evidences on which I base my opinion: 1) Go to Deja.com, switch to discussion search and type "effudix", setting the search option to "all". Now examine the result. Of the whole of usenet, only Phil Scott and Suer have had the same ailment and the same unique way of healing, it during the same period. 2) Examine the respective NNTP by choosing "View original Usenet Format" - they are the same. 3) Click on Suer9965 then on "more" and see how Suer mostly trolled in the same four newsgroups Phil has been posting at that time: ARS, alt.clearing.technology alt.self-improve alt.flame.psychiatry Read some of Suer's troll and see how often she refers to Phil Scott and how some of her preoccupations are similar. IMO, the evidences are pretty convincing. What you think? ======================================================== ======================================================== mail@bernie.us-inc.com (Bernie) Message-ID: <39f7279c.48676773@enews.newsguy.com> On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:36:30 -0400 ptsc <ptsc@my-deja.com> wrote in <hob9vsk8u9v0grdgsr22elhtendqa62quc@4ax.com>: (Bernie) wrote: 1) Go to Deja.com, switch to discussion search and type "effudix", setting the search option to "all". Now examine the result. Of the whole of usenet, only Phil Scott and Suer have had the same ailment and the same unique way of healing, it during the |
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StilllovingMarty@myway.com (Barbara Schwarz) wrote in message news:<bf456302.0410110910.626c14c7@posting.google.com>...
"Phil Scott" <philscott888@sf.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:<U4tad.27850$QJ3.14776@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>...
Hey Faxhor.. you are a funny guy... you and to go back 5 YEARS
find come cultie boy Bernie who had halucinations about 6
posts by some lady named Sally?
Are you talking about Sally, the hypocritial and stupid wife of Steven
Goodman, Phil Scott? She isn't a lady but a fool.
You have a really dirty mind, Phil Scott, to give Faxhor those names.
Seems your mind is fixed on prostitutes. What does that say about you,
Phil? Cool down in front of one of your air conditions before you
start posting.
Foregoing is a forgery by Barbara Schwarz-Manson-Hubbard-Eisenhower
-Rathbun- deRothschild, a well-known psychotic bag lady infected with
syphillis and gonorhea (from getting anal sex with skid row drinks for
booze money) in Salt Lake City and being financially supported by her
family in Germany because she is lazy and incapable of holding a real
job. Her family avoids her at all costs for fear that she will harm
them and spread her disease and kill them.
Barbara Schwarz-Manson-Hubbard-Eisenhower-Rathbun-deRothschild is a
very sick woman who spent 5 years in the Utah State Hospital
Psychiatric Unit for psychotic behavior and her inability to control
it. A roommate of Barbara has related her fanciful delusions of being
the illegitimate daughter of Queen Elizabeth in England and best
friend to Cinderella and Snow White.
She claims to be a Scientologist, but in reality, was rejected by
Scientology as too stupid and too delusional.
Schwarz-Manson-Hubbard-Eisenhower-Rathbun-deRothschild is well-known
to court judges, state and federal officials & law enforcement
authorities nationwide who have come to recognize her frivilous and
fruadulent complaints against her perceived enemies and generally
ignore her as a mentally disturbed troublemaker.
Barbara Schwarz-Manson-Hubbard-Eisenhower-Rathbun-deRothschild needs
friends desperately, especially the paying kind that can save her from
stealing food and clothing from Salt Lake City stores. Send your
donations to:
Boobara deWacko Schwartz
335 East Broadway, Apt. 401
Salt Lake City, Utah 84111
1-800-IMA-SICKO.
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arbara_Schwarz@myway.com (Still_lying_about_Marty) wrote in message news:<19b9f902.0410112308.db63d16@posting.google.com>...
StilllovingMarty@myway.com (Barbara Schwarz) wrote in message news:<bf456302.0410110910.626c14c7@posting.google.com>...
Hey Faxhor.. you are a funny guy... you and to go back 5 YEARS
find come cultie boy Bernie who had halucinations about 6
posts by some lady named Sally?
Foregoing
No posting with identity "Still_lying_about_Marty" is made by me,
Barbara Schwarz, but by lawless Garry Lynn Scarff, a forger, identity
stealer, hate crime committer, persecutor, cyber stalker, notorious
liar, harasser, and sexual harasser. He verbally assaults me, abuses
me and deliberately libels me and misinforms people about me. He
violates my privacy and my security by over and over posting my home
address on the net. He wants to get rapists and murderer to come to my
apartment. He steals my identity and posts offensive, libelous and
obscene postings under my name or with my name in his e-mail address.
Nothing what he posts about me is true. Note that I post from Utah, he
from California. He also cancels my posts by writing underneath that
they are forgeries. He posts like a bot and is on top of all of that
not funny but boring like an person in a coma.
Scarff is also a fanatical fan of the porn and bomb instruction guy
Dave Touretzky and defends David Touretzky's wrong ways.
Above posting is not by Barbara Schwarz. It is one of the many
forgeries of criminal and identity stealer Garry Scarff. I post from
Utah, he posts from California. His postings are criminal,
unintelligent and vulgar, mine none. It is a sign that the "justice
system" doesn't work as this criminal still roams free and continues
new crimes. He also lied under oath and is a perjurer.
I,Barbara Schwarz, swear under oath and penality of perjury that I
never stole anybody's identity nor did I ever forge a posting or any
other document. Scarff libels me as he thinks that he comes away with
it as in his eyes I am a rightless person.
I think that what Garry Lynn Scarff wants to basically say is this:
"I aplogize to Barbara Schwarz for having stolen her identity, for
misinforming and confusing the newsgroup readers, and I also apologize
to the other Scientologists that I betrayed and to my mother, as she
had to raise me, something else than a human being. I am so bad that
it is hard to put in words. I lie constantly. I don't even know how it
feels to say the truth. I need help, religious help, as psychiatrists
just would make me worse as I am already are. Please come to me,
religious people all over the planet, come to me and make me to a
human being. My gay pick up "church" WEHO, a toxic place, did not
transform me in somebody even remotely decent. Now I need the help of
all the really religious people. Please come me, even at 3 am, I don't
care, bring your bibles, torahs, korans, the veda, the Book of
Mormons, other scriptures, bring an exorcist, garlic, wood stick,
whatever you need, and make me to a human being! I beg you, without
you, I will rott in hell. Please, please save me! You are my last hope
of help, as I am already growing horns and a tail. And do also
something for my idol Dave Touretzky and my masters, the case officers
and psychiatric mindcontrollers. They need your help urgently too.
Yours, very untruly, the very degraded, perverted, outrageously
lawless, hypocritical, greedy, violent, malevolent, vengeful,
cowardly, deadly, mendacious, meretricious, loathsome, despicable,
belligerent, opportunistic, barratrous, contemptible, criminal,
fascistic, bigoted,racist, sexist, avaricious, tasteless, idiotic,
brain-damaged,
imbecilic, insane, arrogant, deceitful, demented, lame,
self-righteous,
Byzantine, conspiratorial, satanic, fraudulent, libelous, bilious,
splenetic,
spastic, ignorant, clueless, illegitimate, harmful, destructive, dumb,
evasive,
double-talking, devious, revisionist, narrow, manipulative,
paternalistic,
fundamentalist, dogmatic, idolatrous, unethical, cultic,
diseased,suppressive, controlling, restrictive, malignant, deceptive,
dim,crazy, weird, dystopic, stifling, uncaring, plantigrade, grim,
unsympathetic, jargon-spouting, censorious, secretive, aggressive,
mind-numbing, abrasive, poisonous, flagrant, self-destructive,
abusive, socially-retarded, puerile, clueless, and generally Not Good.
Garry Lynn Scarff.
This is about slimy maggot and notorious identity stealer and
chronical liar Garry Lynn Scarff. If criminal acts and lies would
hurt, that guy would scream all people in his town into completely
deafness.
GARRY SCARFF IN HIS OWN DANGEROUS:
"Actually, she (Barbara Schwarz) needs a baseball bat right in the
kisser.
"Better yet, Bob, why don't you fetch an armload of really heavy books
and walk over to Barbara (Schwarz) when she's at a computer and
whoops....accidentially trip and drop the books on her head...hell..."
"You're very lucky there's 2000 miles between us, Beebe. You'd either
be dead or in ICU."
Garry Scarff: "Yup! I AM SATAN, HEAR ME ROAR!"
Garry Scarff: "...my college grades dropped and I was suspended for 6
months from college for receiving one credit out of the required 12
for the term."
Garry Scarff: "D.E. and others are correct if that I have not been a
Scientologist..."
Garry Scarff: "I was 'friend' with Scientology, yet going to cult
education forums with the Greeks and trashing Scientology."
Garry Scarff: "I...was even invited as special friend by Ann Greek to
accompany them to Canada for the purposes of kidnapping their
daughter...I accompanied the Greeks and another deprogrammer, Diane
Benscoter to Candada but the effort was unsuccessful."
Garry Scarff: "The sexual incident involving deprogrammer Bob
Brandybury did occur though Anne Greek begged me not to report it as a
crime."
Garry Scarff: "I rather lick you."
Garry Scarff:" Have a short life, Zanebutt".
Garry Scarff: "Don't make me send my henchman back over there to
bloody your nose."
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GARRY SCARFF, THE THIEF OF FUNDS:
Garry Scarff stole stole 70% of donations of the Positive Action
Center. Something tells me that he did not do that out of hunger but
because he has a criminal mind.
GARRY SCARFF, AND THE MISUSE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT EQUIPMENT:
The affidavit of lawyer Graham Berry of April 4, 2004 indicates that
Garry Scarff unlawfully used law enforcement computer network to
retrieve info about juvenile. My question, is there any crime that
this Scarff has not committed sofar? He should be locked up.
GARRY SCARFF, THE PERJURER:
There are numerous information on the net that Garry Scarff lied in
his deposition in the Fishman/Geertz case.
Saying the truth under oath means nothing to criminal Scarff.
MORE GARRY SCARFF PERJURY:
Garry Scarff recants the content of his declarations given to
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StilllovingMarty@myway.com (Barbara Schwarz) wrote in message news:<bf456302.0410110910.626c14c7@posting.google.com>...
"Phil Scott" <philscott888@sf.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:<Metad.27854$QJ3.2652@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>...
Are you talking about Sally, the hypocritial and stupid wife of Steven
Goodman, Phil Scott? She isn't a lady but a fool.
You have a really dirty mind, Phil Scott, to give Faxhor those names.
Seems your mind is fixed on prostitutes. What does that say about you,
Phil? Cool down in front of one of your air conditions before you
start posting.
You also should not blame him on what your friends, the
non-scientological infiltrators as Garry Scarff, Gerry Armstrong,
Jesse Prince and so many others did while smuggling themselves onto
org lines.
I really think Phil Scott belongs on any list of non-scientological
infiltrators. Apparently he was with the church before but is now
and outspoken critic that knows many scientologists.
And you also should not make crimes up that were never committed.
Barbara Schwarz
Soon we'll have more information about Phil Scott and I imagine
he will only be able to claim we are liars and he'll continue
with his hateful online deprogramming agenda.
Faxhor
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Fax whore scribed:
Soon we'll have more information about Phil Scott and I
imagine
he will only be able to claim we are liars and he'll
continue
with his hateful online deprogramming agenda.
Faxhor
Good going faxhor...illustrating your cults trash'em and
threats technology.. and each step of the way you empty your
orgs more and more... people see this and just cringe.,...
they run for the exits that way bud.
Amazing...are you going to keep it up until all of the orgs
are boarded up?
you retain maybe one dingbat for an extra few weeks by
smearing a critic, and drive of thousands who see such tactics
as reprehensible..
To quote the St Petersburg Times "its not like any church we
know" :)
And faxhor... do look up the Darwin Awards on google... you
and yer fellow anon associate 'abc' have great chances of
doing very well, both for yourselves and especially for your
organization.. Scientology is already well up in the Darwin
Award standings as you might well know.
Each time you agravate a critic that critic becomes more
active, you get more pickets and more go out public speaking
about your organization.... as it continues to tank.
amazing.... you should ask Ava Parquette and the other bird
brains at OSA legal how the Brain Quigley op on me worked
out... if they arent already on the RPF.
Phil Scott
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StilllovingMarty@myway.com (Barbara Schwarz) wrote in message news:<bf456302.0410121029.1d730857@posting.google.com>...
Barbara_Schwarz@myway.com (Still_lying_about_Marty) wrote in message news:<19b9f902.0410112308.db63d16@posting.google.com>...
Hey Faxhor.. you are a funny guy... you and to go back 5 YEARS
find come cultie boy Bernie who had halucinations about 6
posts by some lady named Sally?
Are you talking about Sally, the hypocritial and stupid wife of Steven
Goodman, Phil Scott? She isn't a lady but a fool.
You have a really dirty mind, Phil Scott, to give Faxhor those names.
Seems your mind is fixed on prostitutes. What does that say about you,
Phil? Cool down in front of one of your air conditions before you
start posting.
No posting with identity "Still_lying_about_Marty" is made by me,
Barbara Schwarz, but by lawless Garry Lynn Scarff, a forger, identity
stealer, hate crime committer, persecutor, cyber stalker, notorious
liar, harasser, and sexual harasser.
Foregoing is a forgery by Barbara Schwarz-Manson-Hubbard-Eisenhower
-Rathbun- deRothschild, a well-known psychotic bag lady infected with
syphillis and gonorhea (from getting anal sex with skid row drinks for
booze money) in Salt Lake City and being financially supported by her
family in Germany because she is lazy and incapable of holding a real
job. Her family avoids her at all costs for fear that she will harm
them and spread her disease and kill them.
Barbara Schwarz-Manson-Hubbard-Eisenhower-Rathbun-deRothschild is a
very sick woman who spent 5 years in the Utah State Hospital
Psychiatric Unit for psychotic behavior and her inability to control
it. A roommate of Barbara has related her fanciful delusions of being
the illegitimate daughter of Queen Elizabeth in England and best
friend to Cinderella and Snow White.
She claims to be a Scientologist, but in reality, was rejected by
Scientology as too stupid and too delusional.
Schwarz-Manson-Hubbard-Eisenhower-Rathbun-deRothschild is well-known
to court judges, state and federal officials & law enforcement
authorities nationwide who have come to recognize her frivilous and
fruadulent complaints against her perceived enemies and generally
ignore her as a mentally disturbed troublemaker.
Barbara Schwarz-Manson-Hubbard-Eisenhower-Rathbun-deRothschild needs
friends desperately, especially the paying kind that can save her from
stealing food and clothing from Salt Lake City stores. Send your
donations to:
Boobara deWacko Schwartz
335 East Broadway, Apt. 401
Salt Lake City, Utah 84111
1-800-IMA-SICKO.
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"Still_lying_about_Marty" <Barbara_Schwarz@myway.com> wrote in
message news:19b9f902.0410122125.4627afc@posting.google.com...
StilllovingMarty@myway.com (Barbara Schwarz) wrote in
message
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StilllovingMarty@myway.com (Barbara Schwarz) wrote in
message
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"Phil Scott" <philscott888@sf.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
message
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Hey Faxhor.. you are a funny guy... you and to go
back 5 YEARS
find come cultie boy Bernie who had halucinations
about 6
posts by some lady named Sally?
Are you talking about Sally, the hypocritial and
stupid wife of Steven
Goodman, Phil Scott? She isn't a lady but a fool.
You have a really dirty mind, Phil Scott, to give
Faxhor those names.
Seems your mind is fixed on prostitutes. What does
that say about you,
Phil? Cool down in front of one of your air conditions
before you
start posting.
Foregoing
No posting with identity "Still_lying_about_Marty" is made
by me,
Barbara Schwarz, but by lawless Garry Lynn Scarff, a
forger, identity
stealer, hate crime committer, persecutor, cyber stalker,
notorious
liar, harasser, and sexual harasser.
Foregoing is a forgery by Barbara
Schwarz-Manson-Hubbard-Eisenhower
-Rathbun- deRothschild, a well-known psychotic bag lady
infected with
syphillis and gonorhea (from getting anal sex with skid row
drinks for
booze money) in Salt Lake City and being financially
supported by her
family in Germany because she is lazy and incapable of
holding a real
job. Her family avoids her at all costs for fear that she
will harm
them and spread her disease and kill them.
Barbara
Schwarz-Manson-Hubbard-Eisenhower-Rathbun-deRothschild is a
very sick woman who spent 5 years in the Utah State Hospital
Psychiatric Unit for psychotic behavior and her inability to
control
it. A roommate of Barbara has related her fanciful delusions
of being
the illegitimate daughter of Queen Elizabeth in England and
best
friend to Cinderella and Snow White.
She claims to be a Scientologist, but in reality, was
rejected by
Scientology as too stupid and too delusional.
Schwarz-Manson-Hubbard-Eisenhower-Rathbun-deRothschild is
well-known
to court judges, state and federal officials & law
enforcement
authorities nationwide who have come to recognize her
frivilous and
fruadulent complaints against her perceived enemies and
generally
ignore her as a mentally disturbed troublemaker.
Barbara
Schwarz-Manson-Hubbard-Eisenhower-Rathbun-deRothschild needs
friends desperately, especially the paying kind that can
save her from
stealing food and clothing from Salt Lake City stores. Send
your
donations to:
Boobara deWacko Schwartz
335 East Broadway, Apt. 401
Salt Lake City, Utah 84111
1-800-IMA-SICKO.
Ya...well..... so she is a little eccentric...right away
you turn negative.
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"Phil Scott" <philscott888@sf.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:<WX%ad.12286$nj.3681@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>...
Fax whore scribed:
imagine
continue
Good going faxhor...
Why are you so angry about the orgs anyway, Phil Scott? And why are
you not on the extremist pages of the www.religiousfreedomwatch.org?
This is kind of mysterious, don't you think so? Does they not consider
you extreme enough? I would.
Why did you come to SCN in the first place? Did somebody send you in
and then pulled you out and told you to attack? You wouldn't be the
first guy.
Barbara Schwarz
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faxhor@hotmail.com (Faxhor) wrote in message news:<c901bee5.0410121704.12bf7b84@posting.google.com>...
StilllovingMarty@myway.com (Barbara Schwarz) wrote in message news:<bf456302.0410110910.626c14c7@posting.google.com>...
I really think Phil Scott belongs on any list of non-scientological
infiltrators. Apparently he was with the church before but is now
and outspoken critic that knows many scientologists.
Soon we'll have more information about Phil Scott and I imagine
he will only be able to claim we are liars and he'll continue
with his hateful online deprogramming agenda.
Faxhor
Looking forward to see more research of you, Faxhor. I think Phil
should get married, then he would not think all the time of
prostitutes and would do something better with his time than to
persecute religion.
Barbara Schwarz
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"Phil Scott" <philscott888@sf.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:<b14bd.2918$6q2.2100@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>...
"Still_lying_about_Marty" <Barbara_Schwarz@myway.com> wrote in message news:19b9f902.0410122125.4627afc@posting.google.com... message news:<bf456302.0410121029.1d730857@posting.google.com>... message news:<bf456302.0410110910.626c14c7@posting.google.com>... "Phil Scott" <philscott888@sf.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:<U4tad.27850$QJ3.14776@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>... Hey Faxhor.. you are a funny guy... you and to go back 5 YEARS find come cultie boy Bernie who had halucinations about 6 posts by some lady named Sally? Are you talking about Sally, the hypocritial and stupid wife of Steven Goodman, Phil Scott? She isn't a lady but a fool. You have a really dirty mind, Phil Scott, to give Faxhor those names. Seems your mind is fixed on prostitutes. What does that say about you, Phil? Cool down in front of one of your air conditions before you start posting. Foregoing No posting with identity "Still_lying_about_Marty" is made by me, Barbara Schwarz, but by lawless Garry Lynn Scarff, a forger, identity stealer, hate crime committer, persecutor, cyber stalker, notorious liar, harasser, and sexual harasser. Schwarz-Manson-Hubbard-Eisenhower infected with drinks for supported by her holding a real will harm Schwarz-Manson-Hubbard-Eisenhower-Rathbun-deRothschild is a control of being best rejected by well-known enforcement frivilous and generally Schwarz-Manson-Hubbard-Eisenhower-Rathbun-deRothschild needs save her from your Ya...well..... so she is a little eccentric...right away you turn negative.
minor nuisance.
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Why are you so angry about the orgs anyway, Phil Scott? And why are
you not on the extremist pages of the www.religiousfreedomwatch.org?
This is kind of mysterious, don't you think so? Does they not consider
you extreme enough? I would.
I'm sure that Phil, as well as many others here, would LOVE to be on your
cults lovely little propaganda site. Why don't you make up a bunch of
stuff, type it out and send it to them. Maybe they'll publish it for you.
Why did you come to SCN in the first place? Did somebody send you in
and then pulled you out and told you to attack? You wouldn't be the
first guy.
Speaking as one who did the same, Babs?
Barbara Schwarz
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message
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"Phil Scott" <philscott888@sf.sbcglobal.net> wrote in
message
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"Still_lying_about_Marty" <Barbara_Schwarz@myway.com>
wrote in
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StilllovingMarty@myway.com (Barbara Schwarz) wrote in
message
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Barbara_Schwarz@myway.com (Still_lying_about_Marty)
wrote
in message
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StilllovingMarty@myway.com (Barbara Schwarz) wrote
in
message
news:<bf456302.0410110910.626c14c7@posting.google.com>...
"Phil Scott" <philscott888@sf.sbcglobal.net> wrote
in
message
news:<U4tad.27850$QJ3.14776@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>...
Hey Faxhor.. you are a funny guy... you and to
go
back 5 YEARS
find come cultie boy Bernie who had
halucinations
about 6
posts by some lady named Sally?
Are you talking about Sally, the hypocritial and
stupid wife of Steven
Goodman, Phil Scott? She isn't a lady but a fool.
You have a really dirty mind, Phil Scott, to give
Faxhor those names.
Seems your mind is fixed on prostitutes. What does
that say about you,
Phil? Cool down in front of one of your air
conditions
before you
start posting.
Foregoing
No posting with identity "Still_lying_about_Marty" is
made
by me,
Barbara Schwarz, but by lawless Garry Lynn Scarff, a
forger, identity
stealer, hate crime committer, persecutor, cyber
stalker,
notorious
liar, harasser, and sexual harasser.
Foregoing is a forgery by Barbara
Schwarz-Manson-Hubbard-Eisenhower
-Rathbun- deRothschild, a well-known psychotic bag lady
infected with
syphillis and gonorhea (from getting anal sex with skid
row
drinks for
booze money) in Salt Lake City and being financially
supported by her
family in Germany because she is lazy and incapable of
holding a real
job. Her family avoids her at all costs for fear that
she
will harm
them and spread her disease and kill them.
Barbara
Schwarz-Manson-Hubbard-Eisenhower-Rathbun-deRothschild is
a very sick woman who spent 5 years in the Utah State
Hospital
Psychiatric Unit for psychotic behavior and her
inability to
control
it. A roommate of Barbara has related her fanciful
delusions
of being
the illegitimate daughter of Queen Elizabeth in England
and
best
friend to Cinderella and Snow White.
She claims to be a Scientologist, but in reality, was
rejected by
Scientology as too stupid and too delusional.
Schwarz-Manson-Hubbard-Eisenhower-Rathbun-deRothschild
is
well-known
to court judges, state and federal officials & law
enforcement
authorities nationwide who have come to recognize her
frivilous and
fruadulent complaints against her perceived enemies and
generally
ignore her as a mentally disturbed troublemaker.
Barbara
Schwarz-Manson-Hubbard-Eisenhower-Rathbun-deRothschild
needs
friends desperately, especially the paying kind that can
save her from
stealing food and clothing from Salt Lake City stores.
Send
your
donations to:
Boobara deWacko Schwartz
335 East Broadway, Apt. 401
Salt Lake City, Utah 84111
1-800-IMA-SICKO.
Ya...well..... so she is a little eccentric...right
away
you turn negative.
Calling Boobara "a little eccentric" is like calling Saddam
Hussein a
minor nuisance.
picky picky picky
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tilllovingMarty@myway.com (Barbara Schwarz) wrote in message news:<bf456302.0410130743.2a432bcd@posting.google.com>...
Looking forward to see more research of you, Faxhor. I think Phil
should get married, then he would not think all the time of
prostitutes and would do something better with his time than to
persecute religion.
Barbara Schwarz
Thanks Barbara. I have a lot more research which I have
not yet posted to USENET, I'll send you info.
Phil Scott doesn't have a wife? He once impersonated a
female troll: SUER.
Phil Scott said Suer must be a "hottie" and that we should
have more of them around. (probably his code language to
Rice or some other critic to start trolling/sporging).
Phil Scott is a Black Scientology Practitioner. His area
of expertise: Online Bullbait Style Deprogramming.
You remember how much energy it often took as a coach when
you had to bullbait another?
I can almost see a furious Phil Scott pounding away at
his keyboard with sweat pouring down his face as he
screams: "DAMN U FAXHOR!! BREAK BREAK BREAK!!"
The following is an article written by Bernie.
Thank you Bernie for being objective and unbiased.
http://bernie.cncfamily.com/sc/trolls.htm
Faxhor
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The incident happened in September 1999, when critics invaded the
alt.flamme.psychiatry newsgroup to attack a Scientologist who was
posting there. Things didn't turn out too well for critics, as
outsiders remarked on critics' rudeness and bigotry:
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djamu@my-deja.com
Message-ID: <7san98$8ue$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
Mr. McKean [the Scientologist] has shown what the vast
majority of ARS commandos have not; respect, humility and
consideration. When Scientologists were politely asked to
leave another mental-health related newsgroup by that
group's regulars, they politely left. And as far as I
know, they haven't been back since. All we've asked is
that people from your newsgroup NOT flood this room with
posts that have nothing to do with the topic at hand.
You have every moral right to counter Mr. McKean's CCHR
posts with related material that illustrates what you
believe to be contradictions. You do not have the moral
right to flood this room with taunting, insults and
accusations.
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Shortly after, a new "Scientologist", "Sue", appeared in
alt.flamme.psychiatry. In reality a critic impersonating a
Scientologist. Contrary to McKlean, "she" was extremely abusive.
Here is one of the many posts "she" made (the header is left
in full for further analysis):
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suer9965@my-deja.com 23 Sep 1999 00:00:00 GMT
From: suer9965@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: Why let Scientologists into this newsgroup
Date: 23 Sep 1999 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <7scm2h$nba$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
References: <7san98$8ue$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
<19990922143127.16453.00000527@ng-fu1.aol.com>
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204.178.22.18
Organization: Deja.com - Share what you know. Learn what you
don't.
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YOu know something DB, we spent over 94.2 million dollars
last year just prosecuting you internet terrorists... we
have files on all you bastards. Big thick ones with photos,
and school recordS, bank records, telephone records...you
getting a hint jerk? And yes Hubbard meant what the hell
he said. YOu people are done for, your families are disease
ridden, even your damn pets stink. you SCUMMY filthy sack
of #@($.
You know LRH said it best the first time, in Dianetics
Modern Science of Mental Health, and I will quote him
exactly "dispose of them quietly and without sorrow", got
that ASSHOLE. He was talking about the scum that cant
make it, the misfits, the jerks of the world, the 2%
suppressives. Get rid of them and the WHOLE WORLD will be
better off. Its right there in black and white asshole,
you better get a clue, we are growing fast, and soon it
will be YOU who is watching your back, not us. Mike McClean
has the courage to do something about it. Thats a LOT more
than I can say about you DB.
arc. sue
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As can be seen, the post is clearly construed to look as if it
comes from a Scientologist, and its apparent purpose is to try
to offset the bad impression critics made on outsiders by trying
to make Scientologist sound even worst.
The real author behind "Sue", however, can be clearly traced to
a regular ARS critics, who was also an assistant on the
Operation Clambake website: Phil Scott. Here is the analysis
that led to this undisputed conclusion:
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mail@bernie.us-inc.com (Bernie)
Message-ID: <39f47557.31595359@enews.newsguy.com>
OK - so what would you say if I told you that this
suer9965@my-deja.com troll was Phil Scott?
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mail@bernie.us-inc.com (Bernie)
Message-ID: <3a0191d9.10336335@enews.newsguy.com>
On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 07:40:16 -0400 ptsc <ptsc@my-deja.com>
wrote in <ts88vs0jejmskug1csd04m97f8cqd69l42@4ax.com>:
On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 23:22:41 GMT, mail@bernie.us-inc.com
(Bernie) wrote:
OK - so what would you say if I told you that this
suer9965@my-deja.com troll was Phil Scott?
I'd say prove it and then say let's smack Phil if it
turns out true.
Well, I dunno about smacking, but here are the evidences
on which I base my opinion:
1) Go to Deja.com, switch to discussion search and type
"effudix", setting the search option to "all". Now examine
the result. Of the whole of usenet, only Phil Scott and
Suer have had the same ailment and the same unique way of
healing, it during the same period.
2) Examine the respective NNTP by choosing "View original
Usenet Format" - they are the same.
3) Click on Suer9965 then on "more" and see how Suer mostly
trolled in the same four newsgroups Phil has been posting
at that time:
ARS, alt.clearing.technology
alt.self-improve
alt.flame.psychiatry
Read some of Suer's troll and see how often she refers to
Phil Scott and how some of her preoccupations are similar.
IMO, the evidences are pretty convincing. What you think?
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mail@bernie.us-inc.com (Bernie)
Message-ID: <39f7279c.48676773@enews.newsguy.com>
On Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:36:30 -0400 ptsc <ptsc@my-deja.com>
wrote in <hob9vsk8u9v0grdgsr22elhtendqa62quc@4ax.com>:
On
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Is this what you were talking about faxhor?
your crap left in tact following
..
Hey 'abc'... how do you like the Rev Bagley and bogus anon
'suer' op post?
Dear OSA, after all these years, and all the hose job attempts
you STILL haven't learned. it's like this. Two half wits
do NOT equal one full witted person.
Not even 500 half wits make one full witted person... 500 half
wits make less than 0.00001 full wit! The more idiots you
have the *worse it gets... you can't add idiots and get any
progress.
Its QUALITY not quantity.
When you send half wits into battle with full witted persons
they LOOSE ... not smart OSA.
What it is, Hubbies brainwash creates half wits... thats yer
problem.
Now here you go again... two interesting letters:
Ain't Hubbards 'ruin em utterly if possible' tactic glorious?
Whatta guy. No wonder scientology hates the internet.
Here is the pair... does this turn you on Faxhor? Are you a
fan of anon cultie boy ops?
Impressive you people.
Phil Scott
..
A pair of letters to remember:
Amazin' wasn't it? and this Sally thing is a hoot....
these people screwing themselves at every turn.... Im going to
post the sally post with the original Rev Bagley letter in an
original thread.
Bagley admitted to that... the sally post person is anon
vapor ...the pair make quite a case though.
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i686)
[snip]
YOu know something DB, we spent over 94.2 million dollars
last year just prosecuting you internet terrorists... we
have files on all you bastards. Big thick ones with
photos,
and school recordS, bank records, telephone records...you
getting a hint jerk? And yes Hubbard meant what the hell
he said. YOu people are done for, your families are
disease
ridden, even your damn pets stink. you SCUMMY filthy sack
of #@($.
You know LRH said it best the first time, in Dianetics
Modern Science of Mental Health, and I will quote him
exactly "dispose of them quietly and without sorrow", got
that ASSHOLE. He was talking about the scum that cant
make it, the misfits, the jerks of the world, the 2%
suppressives. Get rid of them and the WHOLE WORLD will be
better off. Its right there in black and white asshole,
you better get a clue, we are growing fast, and soon it
will be YOU who is watching your back, not us. Mike
McClean
has the courage to do something about it. Thats a LOT more
than I can say about you DB.
arc. sue
========================================================
ooops sorry..not 'sally'... sue. my mistrake.. :)
Oh yes, and here is the Rev Bagley letter. He is not an anon
fake... he got nailed and not only admitted at first but
bragged on this letter.
A father got this letter from Reverend Bagley:
[schnip]
<Church of Scientology letterhead>
Rather than let my lawyers have all the fun, I will write to
you this
once and straighten you out. I have a great urge to beggar you
to your
last pair of socks, but I will curb the desire a little
longer. If you
had the gut of a demented swineherd you would have read those
pieces of
literature I so graciously had sent to you... do not judge
people by
yourself. Not everyone is a mass murderer like yourself. Yes,
I know
quite a bit about you and your various projects during the
war. And how
do you sleep at night? I hope tis ill... I am expert at
harassment, try
me and find out. You are not strong enough. You are not smart
enough.
You haven't the funds to go through long lengthy court
battles. We have.
Bigger men than you have done their best to stop us. They
failed. So
will you because you are a blatant moron in comparison. We
joust only
with our peers, others like you we will simply gobble up...
one more
word out of you and I'll have you investigated. I might
anyway. I have
never seen one person yet that resisted Scientology who didn't
have a
great deal to hide. And you evidently won't look at free books
sent to
you, so you must, perforce have a great deal to conceal.
[The letter continued with more accusations of guilt on the
part of the
father, along with praise of Scientology and concluded on this
ominous
note.]
If you want to start a Donnybrook, Buddy, wail away; to use
the argot of
the streets I'll just start my people to work on you and then
before
long you will be broke, and out of a job and broken in health.
Then I
can have my nasty little chuckle about you and get back to
work. . .
You won't take long to finish off. I would estimate three
weeks.
Remember: I am not a mealy mouthed psalm [sic] canting
preacher. I am a
minister of the Church of Scientology I am able to heal the
sick and I
do. But I have other abilities which include a knowledge of
men's minds
that I will use to crush you to your knees. You or any other
wretch that
stands in our way. Cause the list is long, but their careers
are very
short of those that have jousted with us.
With the utmost sincerity possible
Reverend Andrew Bagley
Organisational Secretary
P.S.: Don't reply to this letter. If I want to get in touch
with you,
I'll be able to find you. Anywhere.
[schnip]
Reverend Andrew Bagley wrote this letter to a father who
didn't want to
pay the courses of his son, and reported the scienos.
Later, the father paid the bill, and his son took
approximately $4,500
worth more courses in Scientology paying for them himself the
next time
from a $5,000 inheritance.
From: Paulette Cooper, "The scandal of Scientology"
(re-formatted, sorry
for the typos)
--- Tilman Hausherr [Awards: KoX, DB, Koos "seal of
approval"]
biz: tilman@sietec.de http://www.sietec.de/
(company page)
home: tilman@berlin.snafu.de
http://www.snafu.de/~tilman/
==============================================================
==
"Phil Scott, the critic who trolled, simply let the
situation as
it was, with the deliberate intention to portray
Scientologists
as fascists. It was only found out months later when I dug
up
what was behind these posts."
==============================================================
==
The following is part of an article written by "Bernie"
Faxhor
http://bernie.cncfamily.com/sc/trolls.htm
/ / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / /
/ /
The incident happened in September 1999, when critics
invaded the
alt.flamme.psychiatry newsgroup to attack a Scientologist
who was
posting there. Things didn't turn out too well for critics,
as
outsiders remarked on critics' rudeness and bigotry:
========================================================
djamu@my-deja.com
Message-ID: <7san98$8ue$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
Mr. McKean [the Scientologist] has shown what the vast
majority of ARS commandos have not; respect, humility
and
consideration. When Scientologists were politely asked
to
leave another mental-health relate
|
| |
| |
..
Hey Faxhor...is this what you were looking for? You morons are
WINNING in the Darwin Awards, did you know that? GOOD
going. Look here is a little piece about half wits you might
find useful.
....how do you like the Rev Bagley and bogus anon 'suer' op
post?
Dear OSA, after all these years, and all the hose job attempts
you STILL haven't learned. it's like this. Two half wits
do NOT equal one full witted person.
Not even 500 half wits make one full witted person... 500 half
wits make less than 0.00001 full wit! The more idiots you
have the *worse it gets... you can't add idiots and get any
progress.
Its QUALITY not quantity.
When you send half wits into battle with full witted persons
they LOOSE ... not smart OSA.
What it is, Hubbies brainwash creates half wits... thats yer
problem.
Now here you go again... two interesting letters:
Ain't Hubbards 'ruin em utterly if possible' tactic glorious?
Whatta guy. No wonder scientology hates the internet.
Here is the pair... does this turn you on Faxhor? Are you a
fan of anon cultie boy ops?
Impressive you people.
Phil Scott
..
A pair of letters to remember:
Amazin' wasn't it? and this Sally thing is a hoot....
these people screwing themselves at every turn.... Im going to
post the sally post with the original Rev Bagley letter in an
original thread.
Bagley admitted to that... the sally post person is anon
vapor ...the pair make quite a case though.
X-Article-Creation-Date: Thu Sep 23 07:49:39 1999 GMT
X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDsuer9965
Newsgroups: alt.flame.psychiatry
X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36
i686)
[snip]
YOu know something DB, we spent over 94.2 million dollars
last year just prosecuting you internet terrorists... we
have files on all you bastards. Big thick ones with
photos,
and school recordS, bank records, telephone records...you
getting a hint jerk? And yes Hubbard meant what the hell
he said. YOu people are done for, your families are
disease
ridden, even your damn pets stink. you SCUMMY filthy sack
of #@($.
You know LRH said it best the first time, in Dianetics
Modern Science of Mental Health, and I will quote him
exactly "dispose of them quietly and without sorrow", got
that ASSHOLE. He was talking about the scum that cant
make it, the misfits, the jerks of the world, the 2%
suppressives. Get rid of them and the WHOLE WORLD will be
better off. Its right there in black and white asshole,
you better get a clue, we are growing fast, and soon it
will be YOU who is watching your back, not us. Mike
McClean
has the courage to do something about it. Thats a LOT more
than I can say about you DB.
arc. sue
========================================================
ooops sorry..not 'sally'... sue. my mistrake.. :)
Oh yes, and here is the Rev Bagley letter. He is not an anon
fake... he got nailed and not only admitted at first but
bragged on this letter.
A father got this letter from Reverend Bagley:
[schnip]
<Church of Scientology letterhead>
Rather than let my lawyers have all the fun, I will write to
you this
once and straighten you out. I have a great urge to beggar you
to your
last pair of socks, but I will curb the desire a little
longer. If you
had the gut of a demented swineherd you would have read those
pieces of
literature I so graciously had sent to you... do not judge
people by
yourself. Not everyone is a mass murderer like yourself. Yes,
I know
quite a bit about you and your various projects during the
war. And how
do you sleep at night? I hope tis ill... I am expert at
harassment, try
me and find out. You are not strong enough. You are not smart
enough.
You haven't the funds to go through long lengthy court
battles. We have.
Bigger men than you have done their best to stop us. They
failed. So
will you because you are a blatant moron in comparison. We
joust only
with our peers, others like you we will simply gobble up...
one more
word out of you and I'll have you investigated. I might
anyway. I have
never seen one person yet that resisted Scientology who didn't
have a
great deal to hide. And you evidently won't look at free books
sent to
you, so you must, perforce have a great deal to conceal.
[The letter continued with more accusations of guilt on the
part of the
father, along with praise of Scientology and concluded on this
ominous
note.]
If you want to start a Donnybrook, Buddy, wail away; to use
the argot of
the streets I'll just start my people to work on you and then
before
long you will be broke, and out of a job and broken in health.
Then I
can have my nasty little chuckle about you and get back to
work. . .
You won't take long to finish off. I would estimate three
weeks.
Remember: I am not a mealy mouthed psalm [sic] canting
preacher. I am a
minister of the Church of Scientology I am able to heal the
sick and I
do. But I have other abilities which include a knowledge of
men's minds | | |
