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Waitress Claims She Was Fired Over Weight



bkawt@se.ibm.com (Camille Roe)
10/22/2004 4:29:40 AM


Waitress Claims She Was Fired Over Weight
Mother of Three Says She Was Let Go From Ruby Tuesday for Being too Big
HICKORY, N.C., Oct. 19, 2004 -- Oct. 19, 2004 - Misty Watts -- a widow,
mother of three, waitress and student -- has been struggling to get ahead
for years on her own. So when she was let go from her job because she
didn't "fit" the part, she felt alone and lost.
"They didn't just hurt me. They really hurt my livelihood when they took my
job, for no reason at all," Watts said.
Watts has spent the last two years waiting tables at Ruby Tuesday in
Hickory, N.C. After her husband died, her salary helped raise her three
kids as she went to college part time.
Watts says she felt as if she had been doing a good job, especially since
she says she had been named employee of the month just days before she was
let go by her district manager.
"What he said was, 'Misty, you know I have to call you in here because your
shirt does not fit you correctly,'" Watts said. "'Your shirt will never fit
you correctly. And you will never be able to buy that one that does.' And
he proceeded to tell me I don't fit the image."
While the manager never said the word "overweight," Watts says she believes
her termination was directly related to her weight.
"I'm convinced that I was terminated because I'm overweight," she said.
After Watts was terminated, one of her co-workers wrote a letter to the
restaurant that Watts said touched her deeply. The letter said that Watts
"did not deserve to lose the job that she lost. And Ruby Tuesdays doesn't
deserve her. "
While employees can't be fired based on age, sex, race and religion, it's
not against the law to terminate based on weight.
Legal scholar Lex Larson has written a dozen books on employment
discrimination. He says employers are covered by the long-standing doctrine
of Employment at Will, which states that employment is presumed to be
voluntary and indefinite for both employees and employers.
"An employer can fire you for any reason -- for no reason at all -- or even
for the wrong reason," Larson said.
Ruby Tuesday corporate officers deny Watts was fired for being overweight,
but citing employee confidentiality, wouldn't say more about her.
In a written statement, the company said it does not terminate employees
based on their weight.
"It is not Ruby Tuesday's policy to terminate people because of weight It
is our policy to set high standards for performance and appearance." And:
"We want our team members to wear shirts, blouses, and jeans that fit
properly our people are the point of direct contact with all our guests.
That is why it is so important for us to have team members who look and
perform their best "
Meanwhile, Watts says she would like someone from Ruby Tuesday to tell her
they're sorry.
"I would like an apology. Which I'm probably not going to get. But all I'd
like is an apology to say 'hey, you know what, we fired you for an
unethical reason. You know we fired you for just, just being you.' And you
know I think that I deserve an apology for that," she said.
 
 
Robert
10/22/2004 4:46:56 AM


It looks like we need to firebomb some of their restaurants and kill the
kids and grandkids of the CEO
Camille Roe wrote:
Waitress Claims She Was Fired Over Weight
Mother of Three Says She Was Let Go From Ruby Tuesday for Being too Big
HICKORY, N.C., Oct. 19, 2004 -- Oct. 19, 2004 - Misty Watts -- a widow,
mother of three, waitress and student -- has been struggling to get ahead
for years on her own. So when she was let go from her job because she
didn't "fit" the part, she felt alone and lost.
"They didn't just hurt me. They really hurt my livelihood when they took my
job, for no reason at all," Watts said.
Watts has spent the last two years waiting tables at Ruby Tuesday in
Hickory, N.C. After her husband died, her salary helped raise her three
kids as she went to college part time.
Watts says she felt as if she had been doing a good job, especially since
she says she had been named employee of the month just days before she was
let go by her district manager.
"What he said was, 'Misty, you know I have to call you in here because your
shirt does not fit you correctly,'" Watts said. "'Your shirt will never fit
you correctly. And you will never be able to buy that one that does.' And
he proceeded to tell me I don't fit the image."
While the manager never said the word "overweight," Watts says she believes
her termination was directly related to her weight.
"I'm convinced that I was terminated because I'm overweight," she said.
After Watts was terminated, one of her co-workers wrote a letter to the
restaurant that Watts said touched her deeply. The letter said that Watts
"did not deserve to lose the job that she lost. And Ruby Tuesdays doesn't
deserve her. "
While employees can't be fired based on age, sex, race and religion, it's
not against the law to terminate based on weight.
Legal scholar Lex Larson has written a dozen books on employment
discrimination. He says employers are covered by the long-standing doctrine
of Employment at Will, which states that employment is presumed to be
voluntary and indefinite for both employees and employers.
"An employer can fire you for any reason -- for no reason at all -- or even
for the wrong reason," Larson said.
Ruby Tuesday corporate officers deny Watts was fired for being overweight,
but citing employee confidentiality, wouldn't say more about her.
In a written statement, the company said it does not terminate employees
based on their weight.
"It is not Ruby Tuesday's policy to terminate people because of weight It
is our policy to set high standards for performance and appearance." And:
"We want our team members to wear shirts, blouses, and jeans that fit
properly our people are the point of direct contact with all our guests.
That is why it is so important for us to have team members who look and
perform their best "
Meanwhile, Watts says she would like someone from Ruby Tuesday to tell her
they're sorry.
"I would like an apology. Which I'm probably not going to get. But all I'd
like is an apology to say 'hey, you know what, we fired you for an
unethical reason. You know we fired you for just, just being you.' And you
know I think that I deserve an apology for that," she said.
 
 
Robert
10/22/2004 4:59:22 AM


Here is a list of officers of Ruby Tuesdays
Sandy Beall
Chairman of the Board, President, and CEO
Mark Ingram
President, Franchise
Margie Naman Duffy
Senior Vice President, Chief Financial Officer
Dan Cronk
Senior Vice President, General Counsel and Secretary
Rob LeBoeuf
Senior Vice President, Chief People Officer
Nick Ibrahim
Senior Vice President, Chief Technology Officer
Richard Johnson
Senior Vice President
Collin Cope
Senior Vice President
Bart Fricks
Vice President, Operations
Kimberly Grant
Vice President, Operations
Henry Grau
Vice President, Operations
*******
I will provide a list of home addresses and family members that need to
be killed to teach these @$#*ing assholes a lesson just as soon as I
research this, won't take long
*******
Camille Roe wrote:
Waitress Claims She Was Fired Over Weight
Mother of Three Says She Was Let Go From Ruby Tuesday for Being too Big
HICKORY, N.C., Oct. 19, 2004 -- Oct. 19, 2004 - Misty Watts -- a widow,
mother of three, waitress and student -- has been struggling to get ahead
for years on her own. So when she was let go from her job because she
didn't "fit" the part, she felt alone and lost.
"They didn't just hurt me. They really hurt my livelihood when they took my
job, for no reason at all," Watts said.
Watts has spent the last two years waiting tables at Ruby Tuesday in
Hickory, N.C. After her husband died, her salary helped raise her three
kids as she went to college part time.
Watts says she felt as if she had been doing a good job, especially since
she says she had been named employee of the month just days before she was
let go by her district manager.
"What he said was, 'Misty, you know I have to call you in here because your
shirt does not fit you correctly,'" Watts said. "'Your shirt will never fit
you correctly. And you will never be able to buy that one that does.' And
he proceeded to tell me I don't fit the image."
While the manager never said the word "overweight," Watts says she believes
her termination was directly related to her weight.
"I'm convinced that I was terminated because I'm overweight," she said.
After Watts was terminated, one of her co-workers wrote a letter to the
restaurant that Watts said touched her deeply. The letter said that Watts
"did not deserve to lose the job that she lost. And Ruby Tuesdays doesn't
deserve her. "
While employees can't be fired based on age, sex, race and religion, it's
not against the law to terminate based on weight.
Legal scholar Lex Larson has written a dozen books on employment
discrimination. He says employers are covered by the long-standing doctrine
of Employment at Will, which states that employment is presumed to be
voluntary and indefinite for both employees and employers.
"An employer can fire you for any reason -- for no reason at all -- or even
for the wrong reason," Larson said.
Ruby Tuesday corporate officers deny Watts was fired for being overweight,
but citing employee confidentiality, wouldn't say more about her.
In a written statement, the company said it does not terminate employees
based on their weight.
"It is not Ruby Tuesday's policy to terminate people because of weight It
is our policy to set high standards for performance and appearance." And:
"We want our team members to wear shirts, blouses, and jeans that fit
properly our people are the point of direct contact with all our guests.
That is why it is so important for us to have team members who look and
perform their best "
Meanwhile, Watts says she would like someone from Ruby Tuesday to tell her
they're sorry.
"I would like an apology. Which I'm probably not going to get. But all I'd
like is an apology to say 'hey, you know what, we fired you for an
unethical reason. You know we fired you for just, just being you.' And you
know I think that I deserve an apology for that," she said.
 
 
Robert
10/22/2004 5:02:50 AM


It amazing that Ruby Tuesdays, which has high calorie #@($ for food and
which probably causes massive obesity for people stupid enough to eat
their #@($ food would fire someone for being overweight
********
Camille Roe wrote:
Waitress Claims She Was Fired Over Weight
Mother of Three Says She Was Let Go From Ruby Tuesday for Being too Big
HICKORY, N.C., Oct. 19, 2004 -- Oct. 19, 2004 - Misty Watts -- a widow,
mother of three, waitress and student -- has been struggling to get ahead
for years on her own. So when she was let go from her job because she
didn't "fit" the part, she felt alone and lost.
"They didn't just hurt me. They really hurt my livelihood when they took my
job, for no reason at all," Watts said.
Watts has spent the last two years waiting tables at Ruby Tuesday in
Hickory, N.C. After her husband died, her salary helped raise her three
kids as she went to college part time.
Watts says she felt as if she had been doing a good job, especially since
she says she had been named employee of the month just days before she was
let go by her district manager.
"What he said was, 'Misty, you know I have to call you in here because your
shirt does not fit you correctly,'" Watts said. "'Your shirt will never fit
you correctly. And you will never be able to buy that one that does.' And
he proceeded to tell me I don't fit the image."
While the manager never said the word "overweight," Watts says she believes
her termination was directly related to her weight.
"I'm convinced that I was terminated because I'm overweight," she said.
After Watts was terminated, one of her co-workers wrote a letter to the
restaurant that Watts said touched her deeply. The letter said that Watts
"did not deserve to lose the job that she lost. And Ruby Tuesdays doesn't
deserve her. "
While employees can't be fired based on age, sex, race and religion, it's
not against the law to terminate based on weight.
Legal scholar Lex Larson has written a dozen books on employment
discrimination. He says employers are covered by the long-standing doctrine
of Employment at Will, which states that employment is presumed to be
voluntary and indefinite for both employees and employers.
"An employer can fire you for any reason -- for no reason at all -- or even
for the wrong reason," Larson said.
Ruby Tuesday corporate officers deny Watts was fired for being overweight,
but citing employee confidentiality, wouldn't say more about her.
In a written statement, the company said it does not terminate employees
based on their weight.
"It is not Ruby Tuesday's policy to terminate people because of weight It
is our policy to set high standards for performance and appearance." And:
"We want our team members to wear shirts, blouses, and jeans that fit
properly our people are the point of direct contact with all our guests.
That is why it is so important for us to have team members who look and
perform their best "
Meanwhile, Watts says she would like someone from Ruby Tuesday to tell her
they're sorry.
"I would like an apology. Which I'm probably not going to get. But all I'd
like is an apology to say 'hey, you know what, we fired you for an
unethical reason. You know we fired you for just, just being you.' And you
know I think that I deserve an apology for that," she said.
 
 
Captain Compassion
10/22/2004 6:44:34 AM


On 22 Oct 2004 04:29:40 -0000, bkawt@se.ibm.com (Camille Roe) wrote:
Waitress Claims She Was Fired Over Weight
Mother of Three Says She Was Let Go From Ruby Tuesday for Being too Big
HICKORY, N.C., Oct. 19, 2004 -- Oct. 19, 2004 - Misty Watts -- a widow,
mother of three, waitress and student -- has been struggling to get ahead
for years on her own. So when she was let go from her job because she
didn't "fit" the part, she felt alone and lost.
"They didn't just hurt me. They really hurt my livelihood when they took my
job, for no reason at all," Watts said.
Watts has spent the last two years waiting tables at Ruby Tuesday in
Hickory, N.C. After her husband died, her salary helped raise her three
kids as she went to college part time.
Watts says she felt as if she had been doing a good job, especially since
she says she had been named employee of the month just days before she was
let go by her district manager.
"What he said was, 'Misty, you know I have to call you in here because your
shirt does not fit you correctly,'" Watts said. "'Your shirt will never fit
you correctly. And you will never be able to buy that one that does.' And
he proceeded to tell me I don't fit the image."
While the manager never said the word "overweight," Watts says she believes
her termination was directly related to her weight.
"I'm convinced that I was terminated because I'm overweight," she said.
After Watts was terminated, one of her co-workers wrote a letter to the
restaurant that Watts said touched her deeply. The letter said that Watts
"did not deserve to lose the job that she lost. And Ruby Tuesdays doesn't
deserve her. "
While employees can't be fired based on age, sex, race and religion, it's
not against the law to terminate based on weight.
Legal scholar Lex Larson has written a dozen books on employment
discrimination. He says employers are covered by the long-standing doctrine
of Employment at Will, which states that employment is presumed to be
voluntary and indefinite for both employees and employers.
"An employer can fire you for any reason -- for no reason at all -- or even
for the wrong reason," Larson said.
Ruby Tuesday corporate officers deny Watts was fired for being overweight,
but citing employee confidentiality, wouldn't say more about her.
In a written statement, the company said it does not terminate employees
based on their weight.
"It is not Ruby Tuesday's policy to terminate people because of weight It
is our policy to set high standards for performance and appearance." And:
"We want our team members to wear shirts, blouses, and jeans that fit
properly our people are the point of direct contact with all our guests.
That is why it is so important for us to have team members who look and
perform their best "
Meanwhile, Watts says she would like someone from Ruby Tuesday to tell her
they're sorry.
"I would like an apology. Which I'm probably not going to get. But all I'd
like is an apology to say 'hey, you know what, we fired you for an
unethical reason. You know we fired you for just, just being you.' And you
know I think that I deserve an apology for that," she said.
We're missing some information here. Just exactly how fat was she?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"John Kerry gave the enemy for free what I and many of my comrades in
North Viet Nam prison camps took torture to avoid saying." -- Paul
Galanti POW Jan. 1966 - Feb. 1973
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net
 
 
john@john.johyn
10/22/2004 12:49:17 AM


\On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 04:46:56 GMT, Robert <wayne_s_noches@yahoo.com>
wrote:
It looks like we need to
up your atypical antipsychotics.
 
 
"soxfan"
10/22/2004 11:13:46 AM


"Captain Compassion" <res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in We're missing
some information here. Just exactly how fat was she?
what the hell difference does that make? she'd worked there for
years...... was named employee of the month just days before this happened.
she obviously was a good employee. Restaurants should fire the anorexic
waitresses........ who wants to be served food by someone who looks like
they haven't eaten in months? can't be good for business if the waitress
makes ya feel guilty about eating. : )
 
 
"Crazy Bastard"
10/22/2004 11:48:23 AM




"Camille Roe" <bkawt@se.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:MERANXES38281.8956018519@anonymous.poster...

Waitress Claims She Was Fired Over Weight
Mother of Three Says She Was Let Go From Ruby Tuesday for Being too Big
Fat people are disgusting.
 
 
"Crazy Bastard"
10/22/2004 11:52:35 AM




"Captain Compassion" <res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:rpahn0h49skqsntmao69njsgrfc8j8minm@4ax.com...

We're missing some information here. Just exactly how fat was she?
Too fat to wear an XXL shirt.
That's very @$#*ing fat!
 
 
"Dave C."
10/22/2004 7:54:43 AM




"Camille Roe" <bkawt@se.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:MERANXES38281.8956018519@anonymous.poster...

Waitress Claims She Was Fired Over Weight
Mother of Three Says She Was Let Go From Ruby Tuesday for Being too Big
HICKORY, N.C., Oct. 19, 2004 -- Oct. 19, 2004 - Misty Watts -- a widow,
mother of three, waitress and student -- has been struggling to get ahead
for years on her own. So when she was let go from her job because she
didn't "fit" the part, she felt alone and lost.
"They didn't just hurt me. They really hurt my livelihood when they took
my
job, for no reason at all," Watts said.
Watts has spent the last two years waiting tables at Ruby Tuesday in
Hickory, N.C. After her husband died, her salary helped raise her three
kids as she went to college part time.
Watts says she felt as if she had been doing a good job, especially since
she says she had been named employee of the month just days before she was
let go by her district manager.
"What he said was, 'Misty, you know I have to call you in here because
your
shirt does not fit you correctly,'" Watts said. "'Your shirt will never
fit
you correctly. And you will never be able to buy that one that does.' And
he proceeded to tell me I don't fit the image."
Ummmm . . . if the manager wanted her to change her shirt, why didn't he
give her a damned shirt??? I don't get this one. -Dave
 
 
"Dave C."
10/22/2004 7:56:57 AM


We're missing some information here. Just exactly how fat was she?
What difference does that make? -Dave
 
 
"David Martel"
10/22/2004 12:01:21 PM


Sox,
Captain's point was well made. There is as yet no real info on why this
person was fired. Her weight is worth knowing if a charge of "fat
discrimination" is to be levied. From the OP it seems possible that she was
fired for presenting a poor image by being a sloppy dresser.
Dave M.
 
 
"John Forged Kerry"
10/22/2004 12:04:09 PM




"Dave C." <mdupre@sff.net> wrote in message
news:2tsao4F24c3rtU1@uni-berlin.de...



"Camille Roe" <bkawt@se.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:MERANXES38281.8956018519@anonymous.poster...

Ummmm . . . if the manager wanted her to change her shirt, why didn't he
give her a damned shirt??? I don't get this one. -Dave
Much easier (and more compassionate for his customers) to simply FIRE the
fat #@&@
, Dave.
 
 
Captain Compassion
10/22/2004 3:07:12 PM


On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:13:46 GMT, "soxfan" <soxfan@kerrycountry.com>
wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in We're missing
some information here. Just exactly how fat was she?
what the hell difference does that make? she'd worked there for
years...... was named employee of the month just days before this happened.
she obviously was a good employee. Restaurants should fire the anorexic
waitresses........ who wants to be served food by someone who looks like
they haven't eaten in months? can't be good for business if the waitress
makes ya feel guilty about eating. : )
http://www.geocities.com/q_n_a_2000/00404.html
Hooters has really bad food but yet the suckers flock there anyway.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"John Kerry gave the enemy for free what I and many of my comrades in
North Viet Nam prison camps took torture to avoid saying." -- Paul
Galanti POW Jan. 1966 - Feb. 1973
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net
 
 
Captain Compassion
10/22/2004 3:12:12 PM


On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 07:56:57 -0400, "Dave C." <mdupre@sff.net> wrote:
We're missing some information here. Just exactly how fat was she?
What difference does that make? -Dave
As with many of these whiney ass stories this is high on feelings and
low on information. I assure you that if this gets to court and some
300 Lbs chick takes the stand then the jury won't be all that
sympathetic. However there is the ADA.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"John Kerry gave the enemy for free what I and many of my comrades in
North Viet Nam prison camps took torture to avoid saying." -- Paul
Galanti POW Jan. 1966 - Feb. 1973
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
res0mp8t@NOSPAMverizon.net
 
 
"Crazy Bastard"
10/22/2004 3:15:44 PM




"Dave C." <mdupre@sff.net> wrote in message
news:2tsasaF20hfb6U1@uni-berlin.de...

We're missing some information here. Just exactly how fat was she?
What difference does that make?
If you have a dick you can't be a 'waitress' at Hooter's.
If you're sooo @$#*ing fat that customers complain about it, and apparently
she had soo much extra she couldn't get into a XXXL shirt without the risk
of eye injury should a button pop off and cross the room at sub-light speed
maybe putting someone's eye out, then you can't be a waitress.......
I think the Manager screwed up.
Who do you trust more, a skinny cook or a ain't-missing-no-meals sized cook?
He shoulda put here in the kitchen.....
 
 
"Crazy Bastard"
10/22/2004 3:23:42 PM




"Dave C." <mdupre@sff.net> wrote in message
news:2tsao4F24c3rtU1@uni-berlin.de...



"Camille Roe" <bkawt@se.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:MERANXES38281.8956018519@anonymous.poster...

Ummmm . . . if the manager wanted her to change her shirt, why didn't he
give her a damned shirt??? I don't get this one.
After you outgrow XXXL your shirt options are limited.
I checked with Lane Bryant, they only go to 44W...
http://www.lbcatalog.com/lbcatalog/help/size-charts.asp?nav=2
Maybe she could find something here:
http://www.rei.com/category/4500001.htm?cm_re=toc*2*tents&vcat=REI_SSHP_CAMPING_TOC#tents
I'm always trying to help......
 
 
bobbythed@bigfoot.com (Bobby The D)
10/22/2004 9:01:32 AM


Robert <wayne_s_noches@yahoo.com> wrote in message news
It amazing that Ruby Tuesdays, which has high calorie #@($ for food and
which probably causes massive obesity for people stupid enough to eat
their #@($ food would fire someone for being overweight
I wouldn't consider their fare to be "high calorie #@($ for food".
Gourmet fare, no, but decent food for the price.
Is this woman such a putz that she's incapable of finding another job?
Get over it, move on. Maybe lose some weight while she's at it.
Apologize for firing her??? Gimme a break! Why is it that when
something bad happens to some people it's always someone else's fault?
Maybe she should apologize for being such a loser.
 
 
"John A. Weeks III"
10/22/2004 11:05:38 AM


In article <lE6ed.5501$ta5.601@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>, David
Martel <marte005@earthlink.net> wrote:
Captain's point was well made. There is as yet no real info on why this
person was fired. Her weight is worth knowing if a charge of "fat
discrimination" is to be levied. From the OP it seems possible that she was
fired for presenting a poor image by being a sloppy dresser.
There is apparently more going on here than what has been in the
media so far. I exchanged E-mail with a senior executive at Ruby
Tuesday this morning, and they say that it had nothing to do with
weight, and that her job is waiting for her if she wants to come
back to work. It sounds like the woman and a district manager got
into an argument, and the waitress walked, and is now claiming it
was weight related. Anyone know the real story.
-john-
--
====================================================================
John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708 john@johnweeks.com
Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com
====================================================================
 
 
larrybud2002@yahoo.com (Larry Bud)
10/22/2004 10:52:19 AM


<snip illegal nonsense>
I will provide a list of home addresses and family members that need to
be killed to teach these @$#*ing assholes a lesson just as soon as I
research this, won't take long
You need to be arrested for conspiracy to commit murder. Now go have a twinkie.
 
 
larrybud2002@yahoo.com (Larry Bud)
10/22/2004 10:56:02 AM


Waitress Claims She Was Fired Over Weight
Mother of Three Says She Was Let Go From Ruby Tuesday for Being too Big
HICKORY, N.C., Oct. 19, 2004 -- Oct. 19, 2004 - Misty Watts -- a widow,
mother of three, waitress and student -- has been struggling to get ahead
for years on her own. So when she was let go from her job because she
didn't "fit" the part, she felt alone and lost.
Let's say she was fired for being fat, even though RT denies it.. so
what? Ruby Tuesday, like every company, has an image to uphold. If
they don't want their consumer image to reflect fatness, they
shouldn't be forced to.
What's next, a lawsuit by a Calvin Klein model who breakouts out in
zits and gets fired for being ugly?
A job is not an entitlement. It's SUPPOSED to be a voluntary
agreement between the employer and employee with an exchange of work
vs money. That work can and many times is upholding a corporate
image.
 
 
"John A. Weeks III"
10/22/2004 3:24:31 PM


In article <5db363e0.0410220956.37f8a6f1@posting.google.com>, Larry Bud
<larrybud2002@yahoo.com> wrote:
Waitress Claims She Was Fired Over Weight
Mother of Three Says She Was Let Go From Ruby Tuesday for Being too Big
HICKORY, N.C., Oct. 19, 2004 -- Oct. 19, 2004 - Misty Watts -- a widow,
mother of three, waitress and student -- has been struggling to get ahead
for years on her own. So when she was let go from her job because she
didn't "fit" the part, she felt alone and lost.
Let's say she was fired for being fat, even though RT denies it.. so
what? Ruby Tuesday, like every company, has an image to uphold. If
they don't want their consumer image to reflect fatness, they
shouldn't be forced to.
Given that this woman was employee of the month, she certainly
did not have a problem doing the work. Since she did not gain
the weight in the few days between being named employee of the
month and getting canned, we can assume that she was essentially
the same size when she was employee of the month. Being named
the employee of the month indicates that Ruby Tuesday was proud
of her service, so she apparently did fit their image. After
all, she was the ideal image for a Ruby Tuesday team member.
-john-
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Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com
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Lady Veteran
10/22/2004 4:12:06 PM


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On 22 Oct 2004 04:29:40 -0000, bkawt@se.ibm.com (Camille Roe) wrote:
Waitress Claims She Was Fired Over Weight
Leave it to the idiots to show fat people in their worst light. If
the woman was successful she would never be mentioned here.
However, this does show that discrimination exists in its ugly form.
Thanks idiots you are proving that stupid does indeed have a purpose.
Lady Veteran
Lady Veteran
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"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
- -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil
- ------------------------------------------------
People who hide behind anonymous remailers and
ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no
motive but malice.
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are a hundred more with ignition trouble.
- -Unknown
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"Julie P."
10/24/2004 7:56:53 AM




"Lady Veteran" <armyvet@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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On 22 Oct 2004 04:29:40 -0000, bkawt@se.ibm.com (Camille Roe) wrote:
Leave it to the idiots to show fat people in their worst light. If
the woman was successful she would never be mentioned here.
However, this does show that discrimination exists in its ugly form.
Thanks idiots you are proving that stupid does indeed have a purpose.
here is the email from Ruby Tueday:
"Thank you for contacting us. We have spoken with Misty Watts, who appeared
on Good Morning America, offered her the opportunity to rejoin our team, and
she has accepted.
Misty was asked to leave our team for reasons other than her weight, but we
made mistakes in how the decision to dismiss her was made and implemented,
for which we have apologized.
We are happy that the situation has been so successfully resolved and
appreciate your comments and interest in Ruby Tuesday. "
 
 
Bob Ward
10/27/2004 9:42:31 PM


On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:48:23 GMT, "Crazy Bastard" <crazyodb@yahoo.com>
wrote:


"Camille Roe" <bkawt@se.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:MERANXES38281.8956018519@anonymous.poster...

Fat people are disgusting.
Bigots are disgusting
You are a bigot
Therefore you must be fat.
See how your logic works, when you carry it to the obvious conclusion?
 
 
larrybud2002@yahoo.com (Larry Bud)
10/28/2004 5:27:27 AM


"John A. Weeks III" <john@johnweeks.com> wrote in message news:<221020041524314969%john@johnweeks.com>...
In article <5db363e0.0410220956.37f8a6f1@posting.google.com>, Larry Bud
<larrybud2002@yahoo.com> wrote:
Waitress Claims She Was Fired Over Weight
Mother of Three Says She Was Let Go From Ruby Tuesday for Being too Big
HICKORY, N.C., Oct. 19, 2004 -- Oct. 19, 2004 - Misty Watts -- a widow,
mother of three, waitress and student -- has been struggling to get ahead
for years on her own. So when she was let go from her job because she
didn't "fit" the part, she felt alone and lost.
Given that this woman was employee of the month, she certainly
did not have a problem doing the work. Since she did not gain
the weight in the few days between being named employee of the
month and getting canned, we can assume that she was essentially
the same size when she was employee of the month. Being named
the employee of the month indicates that Ruby Tuesday was proud
of her service, so she apparently did fit their image. After
all, she was the ideal image for a Ruby Tuesday team member.
Whether or not she could do the work is irrelevant. Who are you to
say that she was the image Ruby Tuesday want to portray?
 
 
tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab)
10/28/2004 8:42:28 AM


In article <5db363e0.0410280427.178044e@posting.google.com>,
Larry Bud <larrybud2002@yahoo.com> wrote:
"John A. Weeks III" <john@johnweeks.com> wrote in message news:<221020041524314969%john@johnweeks.com>...
Whether or not she could do the work is irrelevant. Who are you to
say that she was the image Ruby Tuesday want to portray?
Guess they don't want to remind people what eating their food will do to them!
 
 
Lady Veteran
10/28/2004 8:23:32 AM


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On 28 Oct 2004 05:27:27 -0700, larrybud2002@yahoo.com (Larry Bud)
wrote:


"John A. Weeks III" <john@johnweeks.com> wrote in message
news:<221020041524314969%john@johnweeks.com>...

Whether or not she could do the work is irrelevant. Who are you to
say that she was the image Ruby Tuesday want to portray?
Who are you to say that she is not? People and companies who look at
surface beauty to hire and fire have never known the pleasure of
humiliation and hurt, not to mention unemployment that their shallow
attitudes cause.
May they reap all the seeds they sow and then some.
IDIOT!
LV
Lady Veteran
- -----------------------------------
"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
- -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil
- ------------------------------------------------
People who hide behind anonymous remailers and
ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no
motive but malice.
- ---------------------------------------------
"Be who you are and say what
you feel because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
- --Unknown
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Lady Veteran
10/28/2004 8:24:57 AM


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On 28 Oct 2004 08:42:28 -0400, tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote:
In article <5db363e0.0410280427.178044e@posting.google.com>,
Larry Bud <larrybud2002@yahoo.com> wrote:
Guess they don't want to remind people what eating their food will
do to them!
Were you born this shallow or did you have to work at it?
LV
Lady Veteran
- -----------------------------------
"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
when the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank..."
- -Rolling Stones, Sympathy for the Devil
- ------------------------------------------------
People who hide behind anonymous remailers and
ridicule fat people are cowardly idiots with no
motive but malice.
- ---------------------------------------------
"Be who you are and say what
you feel because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
- --Unknown
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"Crazy Bastard"
10/28/2004 1:49:12 PM




"Bob Ward" <bobward@verizon.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 11:48:23 GMT, "Crazy Bastard" <crazyodb@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Bigots are disgusting
You are a bigot
Therefore you must be fat.
See how your logic works, when you carry it to the obvious conclusion?
I see that you're a moron.
Probably a fat moron too.
 
 
tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab)
10/28/2004 10:22:39 AM


In article <3ns1o09b5v7iihefccj61hg20j3o3qjuep@4ax.com>,
Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com> wrote:
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On 28 Oct 2004 08:42:28 -0400, tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote:
Were you born this shallow or did you have to work at it?
For the record, I think they should be forced to rehire her.
 
 
"John A. Weeks III"
10/28/2004 10:08:09 AM


In article <clqvbf$hp3@rac2.wam.umd.edu>, tjab <tjab@wam.umd.edu> wrote:
Waitress Claims She Was Fired Over Weight
Mother of Three Says She