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OL. Please provide adequate proof for you kooky claim.
I determine what, where, when and how I want to write. If I
am off, please send me a reference so I can study it if I
choose to.
<snip> Thats enough Ambassador Yak, keep me out of your
stereo-typical classification. How else do you want to show
everyone that you are a kook.
Why don't you get a regular job?
Ambassador Yak
Why dont you start your own business, "Ambassador"?
Faxhor
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"I made a web site to inform others about my concerns.
It is not unbiased or objective, and it never claimed it was."
- Andreas Heldal-Lund
Andreas Heldal-Lund's biased and un-objective "concerns" are
based on propaganda, lies, distorted information, unsolved cases
and products of "revisionism" written by people such as one of
Willis Carto's writers Arnie Lerma. - Faxhor
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"Heldal-Lund is a member of the Heathen Society of Norway,
a religious hate group dedicated to the destruction of
all organized religion, particularly Christianity."
- Religious Freedom Watch Organization
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Andreas: Come to think of it, no racists or murderers have ever
done anything to me personally... should I reconsider
what I have against them?
Yeah right, that makes a bunch of sense.
Faxhor: The Heathen forgot to mention anti-religious bigots
who make death threats.
Andreas: You forgot to add that you promote lies about things
and persons you know absolutely nothing about.
I know me very well and I know just as well that what
you claim above are lies. But if it gives you meaning
and makes you tick to lie... ;)
Where did I lie?
First of all I never called Andreas the anti-religious bigot
who makes death threats. I said that he forgot to mention them
in his "no racists or murderers" philosophy. Why is Andreas
defending?
Secondly, I do not CLAIM that Andreas is a Heathen and a member
of the Heathen Society of Norway. Andreas "claims" it himself
on his website:
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http://home.online.no/~heldal/me.html
ABOUT ANDREAS
"Proud member of Hedningsamfunnet
(The Norwegian Society of Heathens) . . ."
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Is it true that the Heathen Society seeks to eliminate all
organized religion, specifically the Christian religion?
Here is one definition of HEATHEN that I believe fits Andreas.
One who is regarded as irreligious, uncivilized, or unenlightened.
Maybe he is "civilized" but he definitely is irreligious and
unenlightened.
I'll give you some quotes that he has selected for his website:
"Humanity's first sin was faith; the first virtue was doubt."
"There is a God, but He drinks"
http://home.online.no/~heldal/journal.html
How can anyone trust any "concerns" evaluated by faulty logic
from a HEATHEN in regards to spiritual philosophy and organization.
Andreas: It doesn't bother me. I link to that DA page filled
with lies about me and use every opportunity to show
all I meet it to show how this cult operates.
Faulty evaluation again by Andreas the Heathen. Religious
Freedom Watch protects religious freedom for most major religions.
It is not a cult, it is a watchdog organization. It "operates"
by exposing people like Andreas in defense of religions that are
under attack by anti-religious information that has been broadcast
on international mediums such as the WEB, USENET and IRC.
Andreas: Try to find someone who knows me and ask them what
they think about your lies about me.
LIES? Who's lies? Where did *I* lie?
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Faxhor: Mirror this, its a picture of Andreas (registered owner
of a major dupe data website):
"In June 1995 Heldal-Lund was arrested for
conducting a hate march against the Lutheran
Church at their anniversary."
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/images/lundarrest.jpg
Andreas: Another lie from Scientology, I was not arrested...
What is that picture of Andreas with his hands behind his back
with a police officer?
If it is not an arrest then perhaps Andreas has an explanation
to set the records straight.
Andreas: ... and have never been (I don't even have a speeding
ticket). But do you care what is true? Most likely not.
If I didn't care I would not have offered Andreas the opportunity
to explain the photograph. I care what is true, I just dont care
who the truth hurts.
Andreas: You just don't like that people like me express a
different opinion . . .
Now Andreas is lying. Everyone is entitled to their own
opinion, but false statements are not opinions, they are lies.
That I "dont like that people like (him) express a different
opinion" is more than just an opinion because it is false
statement about me.
Andreas: . . . and all you are able to do is to lie about us
since you can not defend yourself against the criticism.
Andreas jumping the gun. Where did *I*, Faxhor, lie? I am
not defending against any criticism, I am putting Andreas up to
scrutiny. It is freedom of speech.
If Andreas doesn't like my spotlight then he never should
have taken center stage.
Andreas: You are weak and a coward.
Where did that come from?
What makes Andreas think I am weak and a coward? That is Andreas'
opinion and to quote the Heathen: "persons you know absolutely
nothing about."
Andreas: Keep up the good work, you are a living evidence of
why this cult needs critics like us.
That doesn't make sense to me considering that I did not do
what Andreas the Heathen claims I did.
Andreas: Take care.
Does he really mean it?
Andreas: BTW: And your real name was, you said?
Is Andreas hallucinating? I never "said" what my real name
was. Faxhor is my pen name that I use on USENET. Why do I
use a pen name instead of my real name? Because my life has
been sabotaged for 10 years by corrupt individuals. Don't
worry I know who it was and it wasn't Andreas. If anything
Andreas may have been subject to the same harrassment as I was,
he just no longer notices it because he unwittingly has become
their dupe.
I do not know that Religious Freedom Watch is lying. I trust
their judgement because I have found their claims to be true
in my own research. Below is everything that they have to say
about Andreas Heldal-Lund. If anything is incorrect, then take
it up with them as I am not in any way connected to Religious
Freedom Watch.
Faxhor
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Copied from Religious Freedom Watch Organization
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html
ANDREAS HELDAL-LUND
According to Andreas Heldal-Lund, Free Speech carries no
responsibility and this would explain why he is a perpetrator of death
threats against members of the Scientology religion and why he created
an Internet
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