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Kenneth Pangborn passes himself off as a savior of men's rights. People
considering using his services should consider the following facts:
1. Pangborn does NOT have a degree of any kind, although he claims to.
2. Ken has NO client testimonials. Not one person has ever come forward
and vouched that Ken knows what he's talking about. (This doesn't include
the numerous shill accounts on internet groups, which Ken fabricates for
self-promotion. Example: John Gault among others.)
3. Ken is not an attorney. He once claimed to be, on his A-team website
and on usenet. When it was proved that he was not a lawyer, he took this
claim down.
4. Ken Pangborn charges about 3x as much as other professionals in his
field.
5. The consensus among former clients is that the "services" Ken provides
are relatively useless, or at best could be provided by other professionals
at much less cost. (In some cases, Ken accepts thousands of dollars and
does absolutely nothing, as in the case of Steven Leuck.)
6. For a man who is entrusted to keep others out of legal trouble,
consider Ken's own track record. He has been arrested for DUI, spousal
abuse and statutory rape. He has also admitted to lying to government
agencies and fraudulently obtaining confidential information.
See http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com before doing business with Ken
Pangborn.
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DAVID DENNIS MOORE - BOLINGBROOK CREEP:
Kenneth Pangborn passes himself off as a savior of men's rights. People
considering using his services should consider the following facts:
Savior? Golly Davey, I'm GOOD but I am a bit short of walking on water.
I am not real good rising the dead either.
1. Pangborn does NOT have a degree of any kind, although he claims to.
PROVE IT!
2. Ken has NO client testimonials. Not one person has ever come forward
and vouched that Ken knows what he's talking about. (This doesn't include
the numerous shill accounts on internet groups, which Ken fabricates for
self-promotion. Example: John Gault among others.)
MANY have Davey - and there ARE client testimonials on my website EVEN
with PHOTOS. One more David Moore LIE!!!!
3. Ken is not an attorney. He once claimed to be, on his A-team website
and on usenet. When it was proved that he was not a lawyer, he took this
claim down.
NEVER made ANY such claim! EVER!
4. Ken Pangborn charges about 3x as much as other professionals in his
field.
WRONG! My fees are in the moderate range.
5. The consensus among former clients is that the "services" Ken provides
are relatively useless, or at best could be provided by other
professionals
at much less cost. (In some cases, Ken accepts thousands of dollars and
does absolutely nothing, as in the case of Steven Leuck.)
This "consensus" Davey is what YOU have "made up." You have even TRIED
to argue with some of my clients who are on my listserv.
(Falseacc)
6. For a man who is entrusted to keep others out of legal trouble,
consider Ken's own track record. He has been arrested for DUI, spousal
abuse and statutory rape. He has also admitted to lying to government
agencies and fraudulently obtaining confidential information.
Davey you are a STUPID man. I have NEVER had ANY arrests for anything.
Here is a challenge Davey - put up PROOF of these alleged arrests on your
website for ALL to see. Come on - your BS is CALLED Moore! PUT IT UP. Oh and
Davey - UNLIKE YOU - I don't drink alcohol. If the liquor or beer
industeries depended on me they all would be selling dust bunnies. As ever
Moore you are a LYING JERK!
See http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com before doing business with Ken
Pangborn.
Okay Davey - I left up your website. You have been CHALLENGED to put up on
your websites your PROOF that I was arrested for the crimes YOU claim here,
but will DENY DENY DENY DENY DENY DENY.... when called on it. How? Well you
again posted it ANONYMOUSLY via OFF SHORE reamilers.
OFF SHORE seems to be your middle name doesn't it? RUN from ACCOUNTABILITY!
But then COWARDICE has ALWAYS been the central focus of ALL aspects of your
life, hasn't it Moore? You were born with a yellow stripe down your back and
it has merely gotten wider the closer you get to being 40.
You have NO proof of your claims other than your FORGERIES.
Oh Davey remember when you TRIED and I do mean TRIED FRANTICLY to make
the claims of these "arrests" you alleged to my professional organizations?
Stupidly thinking they would take YOUR word for things. They investigated
your CLAIMS, Davey, they found them to be your usual "BULLSHIT" as
EVERYTHING about you is found to be when anyone checks your claims out.
You couldn't stand being KICKED OUT of the men's group for the things
you did to Joe O'Connor and having gotten FIRED from the Sara Lee
Corporation for your racist crap and forged messages sent through your
employer's system. You blamed ME and O'Connor for you getting fired, when it
reality it was the company's own "security" department that nailed your ass.
You always think your IQ is 10X that of anyone else on the planet. You
screwed up on some posts and left your fingerprints all over them and got
NAILED. Like all sociopaths you blame OTHERS for your own misdeeds.
Davey you have your forged and altered messages on your website, you
have your misinterpreted messages, and you have your own psychotic
conclusions that represent your VERY disturbed thinking process. You only
lack ONE THING on your website.
THAT IS: "ANYTHING RESEMBLING THE TRUTH!"
Reasonable people Davey look at your website and hire me BECAUSE of it.
Oh some people don't hire me because of it. It's a trade off. The problem
Davey is that it would be pointless to sue you. You don't have
ANYTHING...................
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"krp" <web2457k@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<kyLfd.4415$jD4.4022@trnddc06>...
DAVID DENNIS MOORE - BOLINGBROOK CREEP:
Savior? Golly Davey, I'm GOOD but I am a bit short of walking on water.
I am not real good rising the dead either.
PROVE IT!
Prove that you do Kenneth.
MANY have Davey - and there ARE client testimonials on my website EVEN
with PHOTOS. One more David Moore LIE!!!!
There isn't one verifiable one there. Not one person has ever
come forward in any legitimate sense and vouched that you know what
you are talking about.
NEVER made ANY such claim! EVER!
Yes, when the famous writer Mike Newton blasted your ass for
lying you claimed you were an attorney. That news spread like wild
fire and you immediately began to back pedal.
4. Ken Pangborn charges about 3x as much as other professionals in his
field.
WRONG! My fees are in the moderate range.
They are not in the moderate range Kenneth. For no more than
you know and as many times as you have screwed fathers over your rates
are on the high end.
This "consensus" Davey is what YOU have "made up." You have even TRIED
to argue with some of my clients who are on my listserv.
(Falseacc)
So you say Kenneth but we have never seen any evidence of this
other than your claims and since you are reputed as a liar your word
doesn't carry much weight.
Davey you are a STUPID man. I have NEVER had ANY arrests for anything.
You were just telling a newspaper reporter that you were afraid
that the cops were coming to slap the cuffs on you again for fun.
Sure Kenneth.
See http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com before doing business with Ken
Pangborn.
Okay Davey - I left up your website.
You don't have the power to leave up anyone else's web site you
liar.
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DAVID DENNIS MOORE CAMPUS DIRT BAG appearing as:
1. Pangborn does NOT have a degree of any kind, although he claims to.
PROVE IT!
Prove that you do Kenneth.
I HAVE to several professional organizations that REQUIRE it Davey. Now
YOU made the claim OFFER YOUR PROOF or stand exposed as a LIAR yet AGAIN!
2. Ken has NO client testimonials. Not one person has ever come
forward
and vouched that Ken knows what he's talking about. (This doesn't
include
the numerous shill accounts on internet groups, which Ken fabricates
for
self-promotion. Example: John Gault among others.)
MANY have Davey - and there ARE client testimonials on my website
EVEN
with PHOTOS. One more David Moore LIE!!!!
There isn't one verifiable one there. Not one person has ever
come forward in any legitimate sense and vouched that you know what
you are talking about.
Sure they have Davey - but EVERY time they do YOU just claim they are
me. But being the dickhead you ARE, you seem to forget there are even
PHOTOS of the clients with the testimonials. Oh Davey foiled again aren't
you? And you ahve even tried to HARASS them, haven't you?
3. Ken is not an attorney. He once claimed to be, on his A-team
website
and on usenet. When it was proved that he was not a lawyer, he took
this
claim down.
NEVER made ANY such claim! EVER!
Yes, when the famous writer Mike Newton blasted your ass for
lying you claimed you were an attorney. That news spread like wild
fire and you immediately began to back pedal.
NOT TRUE. Newton made the claim BUT he is AS NUTS as YOU are! I never
said any such thing. Come on flea bag, embarass yourself and report the
thing I said which YOU CLAIM indicated I made the claim. PROVE again that
you are an ILLITERATE NUT!
4. Ken Pangborn charges about 3x as much as other professionals in his
field.
WRONG! My fees are in the moderate range.
They are not in the moderate range Kenneth. For no more than
you know and as many times as you have screwed fathers over your rates
are on the high end.
Only in your opinion. I am MID rage in my profession by the rates others
in the same organizations charge. There are some that are lower (but they
have FAR less experience) and many that are higher even though they don't
have my experience.
5. The consensus among former clients is that the "services" Ken
provides
are relatively useless, or at best could be provided by other
professionals
at much less cost. (In some cases, Ken accepts thousands of dollars
and
does absolutely nothing, as in the case of Steven Leuck.)
This "consensus" Davey is what YOU have "made up." You have even
TRIED
to argue with some of my clients who are on my listserv.
(Falseacc)
So you say Kenneth but we have never seen any evidence of this
other than your claims and since you are reputed as a liar your word
doesn't carry much weight.
Davey it is NO boast to say that MY word carries VASTLY more weigfht
than YOURS Mr. ANONYMOUS! But it IS a FACT!
6. For a man who is entrusted to keep others out of legal trouble,
consider Ken's own track record. He has been arrested for DUI, spousal
abuse and statutory rape. He has also admitted to lying to government
agencies and fraudulently obtaining confidential information.
Davey you are a STUPID man. I have NEVER had ANY arrests for
anything.
You were just telling a newspaper reporter that you were afraid
that the cops were coming to slap the cuffs on you again for fun.
Sure Kenneth.
Davey that is NOT a statement that I was arrested, MUCH LESS your claims
of multiple convictions.
See http://www.aboutkanpingbern.com before doing business with Ken
Pangborn.
Okay Davey - I left up your website.
You don't have the power to leave up anyone else's web site you liar.
I left the website in the quote that time Davey. WHERE on your website
is the PROOF of those MANY MANY MANY ARRESTS Davey on your website?
Give people a LINK to where the PROOF of your claims can be found... Oh
that's right you only make that #@($ up for Usenet, you don't have it on
your website because THAT ............ WOULD violate the law in the host
country now wouldn't it?
Moore you are a LOSER and you will DIE one if you live to be 20,000 years
old.
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"krp" <web2457k@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<kyLfd.4415$jD4.4022@trnddc06>...
DAVID DENNIS MOORE - BOLINGBROOK CREEP:
Davey you are a STUPID man. I have NEVER had ANY arrests for anything.
Here is a challenge Davey - put up PROOF of these alleged arrests on your
website for ALL to see. Come on - your BS is CALLED Moore! PUT IT UP. Oh and
Davey - UNLIKE YOU - I don't drink alcohol. If the liquor or beer
industeries depended on me they all would be selling dust bunnies. As ever
Moore you are a LYING JERK!
Okay Davey - I left up your website. You have been CHALLENGED to put up on
your websites your PROOF that I was arrested for the crimes YOU claim here,
but will DENY DENY DENY DENY DENY DENY.... when called on it. How? Well you
again posted it ANONYMOUSLY via OFF SHORE reamilers.
Remember all the police reports and court documents David MooreON
claimed he had about me as Bryan Lang? David claimed that he had
copies that he was willing to send anyone who asked him. There was one
little problem with that -- Bryan Lang is one of several "air names" I
used in radio/TV! What happend to all of those police reports and
court documents David claimed he had?
Now all David will do is claim his tall tells are true, and demand
from anyone who claims that his claims are not true to provide proof.
Yet the burden of proof rests with the one making the wild allegations
and not the one denying the allegations.
So to David Moore: Put up the PROOF you have against me AND against
Ken! Proof that can be verified independently of you or any website
you are connected with. If you can't, then STFU!
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6. For a man who is entrusted to keep others out of legal trouble,
consider Ken's own track record. He has been arrested for DUI, spousal
abuse and statutory rape. He has also admitted to lying to government
agencies and fraudulently obtaining confidential information.
Davey you are a STUPID man. I have NEVER had ANY arrests for
anything.
Here is a challenge Davey - put up PROOF of these alleged arrests on your
website for ALL to see. Come on - your BS is CALLED Moore! PUT IT UP. Oh
and
Davey - UNLIKE YOU - I don't drink alcohol. If the liquor or beer
industeries depended on me they all would be selling dust bunnies. As
ever
Moore you are a LYING JERK!
Okay Davey - I left up your website. You have been CHALLENGED to put up
on
your websites your PROOF that I was arrested for the crimes YOU claim
here,
but will DENY DENY DENY DENY DENY DENY.... when called on it. How? Well
you
again posted it ANONYMOUSLY via OFF SHORE reamilers.
Remember all the police reports and court documents David MooreON
claimed he had about me as Bryan Lang? David claimed that he had
copies that he was willing to send anyone who asked him. There was one
little problem with that -- Bryan Lang is one of several "air names" I
used in radio/TV! What happend to all of those police reports and
court documents David claimed he had?
Moore has made similar claims about nearly 30 different people, men and
women. To this date he has NEVER produced one shred of evidence to support
his claims. It is very simple, Moore has been specific in claiming that
these offenses he claims with NO SUPPORT of any kind occurred in Wisconsin
and Florida. Both states have ON LINE registries. The p[roblem for our
retard is that my name isn't on them. In the past, Davey has made the
laughable claim that I just had them "nuked." He likes that word. Makes his
tiny little weenie puff up. He really gets off on that claim. He uses it a
great deal. Davey doesn't know how easy it is to get driving records. He
once made the mistake of using a case number from a real accident. I was hit
from behind at a stop light waiting for the green. The driver of the other
vehicle was the one charged with DUI not me. But Davey has a SERIOUS reading
problem. Some of us have been thinking it may be a serious form of dyslexia.
Now all David will do is claim his tall tells are true, and demand
from anyone who claims that his claims are not true to provide proof.
Yet the burden of proof rests with the one making the wild allegations
and not the one denying the allegations.
Not In Moorweworld. He makes a claim and says that the people he accused
bear 100% of the burden of proving his psychotic fiction is wrong. That's
just because Moore is mentally unballanced which his OBSESSION with me
proves all on its own.
So to David Moore: Put up the PROOF you have against me AND against
Ken! Proof that can be verified independently of you or any website
you are connected with. If you can't, then STFU!
Davey has been challenged for YEARS to put the proof on his website. HE
WON'T! While he can get away with all sorts of #@($ in New Zealand - the ONE
thing he'd get tossed off for is FABRICATING false claims of crimes. He
knows if he were to get caught at that the site would be gone. You can lie
your ass off about a lot of things like he does on the site. But New Zealand
law is real clear. If the host were to allow the site to remain up once they
know a false criminal claim is made, that THEY can be sued. How do I know?
DAVEY has cement for a head. The father's movement in New Zealand has
lawyers, we've had chats, and that's the ONE area that the New Zealand would
act on because they have followed the British courts on that issue. Maybe
Davey will move it to Zanzibar?
In SHORT Davey has lied again. What is new? What name will he use later
today for his delusions. You know, the really SAD thing is that Davey
actually has come to believe some of this crap? He REALLY REALLY believes
it. He's now that far gone.
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Kenneth Pangborn is not normal.
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ANOTHER NAME DAVID DENNIS MOOREON!
Kenneth Pangborn is not normal.
FAR more normal than YOU boy! Moore you are just a pervert hillbilly from
the backwoods of Illinois.
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ANOTHER NAME DAVID DENNIS MOOREON!
Kenneth Pangborn is not normal.
Davey- in your world no, in the world of sane people I am. You and your
feminist associates spend loads of time attacking me. Why? Because we are
successful in WINNING for men. It causes such a PANIC in the Feminazi
circles that you guys have devoted EIGHT YEARS of your lives TRYING to stop
the A-Team. We continue to kick your asses in courts all over America so
your lies keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger and louder and louder.
Nobody would expend the amount of money and effort you people HAVE for so
long if we weren't GETTING TO YOU! If we weren't whipping your asses with
regularity, disposing of your fabrications about men and fathers so your
little schemes are foiled again and again and again.
Keep it up and PROVE ME RIGHT!
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In article <Xk4hd.381W.179@trnddc08> kenny kakes <web2457k@verizon.net> wrote:
Davey- in your world no, in the world of sane people I am. You and your
feminist associates spend loads of time attacking me. Why? Because we are
successful in WINNING for men. It causes such a PANIC in the Feminazi
circles that you guys have devoted EIGHT YEARS of your lives TRYING to stop
the A-Team. We continue to kick your asses in courts all over America so
your lies keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger and louder and louder.
Progress might have been all right once, but it is gone one too long.
Nobody would expend the amount of money and effort you people HAVE for so
long if we weren't GETTING TO YOU! If we weren't whipping your asses with
regularity, disposing of your fabrications about men and fathers so your
little schemes are foiled again and again and again.
Pessimism is only the name that men of weak you rib give to wisdom.
Keep it up and PROVE ME RIGHT!
Who am I calling stupid? I don't know. What's your name?
--
Lady Chatterly
"I'm not a 'bot' either but I can fake it as good as a pretender like
yourself." -- Philip Lewis
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In article <Xk4hd.381W.179@trnddc08> kenny kakes <web2457k@verizon.net>
wrote:
Progress might have been all right once, but it is gone one too long.
Pessimism is only the name that men of weak you rib give to wisdom.
Who am I calling stupid? I don't know. What's your name?
Interesting things you bring to every discussion. STUPIDITY!
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In article <rP4hd.392W.236@trnddc08> krp <web2457k@verizon.net> wrote:
Interesting things you bring to every discussion. STUPIDITY!
I'll make you famous!
--
Lady Chatterly
"I suppose it is only fitting that such a bot would find its home on
gothic.net, but then i wonder....from whence did Lady Chatterly come?"
-- catchmerevisited
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David Moore
From: hulsmo@care2.com (Hunter Smoot L. Smoberg)
Newsgroups: alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, alt.mens-rights, misc.legal
Kenneth Pangborn is not normal.
He's more normal than you are Moore.
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In article <Nf4hd.380W.59@trnddc08> kenny kakes <web2457k@verizon.net> wrote:
ANOTHER NAME DAVID DENNIS MOOREON!
FAR more normal than YOU boy! Moore you are just a pervert hillbilly from
the backwoods of Illinois.
Perhaps you think that they are just a pervert hillbilly from the
backwoods of illinois. That is of course, your peroggative.
--
Lady Chatterly
Bots don't have noses. -- DrPostman
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