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I was driving a family member's car recently at night and I was going slowly down a side street in my new neighborhood when someone threw something at the car. It was very loud metallic bashing sound and I was really scared. I stopped the car and got out and approached a group of families that were having a party on their front patio. I asked them what hit my car. Everyone pretended like they didn't know anything. I was pissed and I guess someone saw this and came forward. He was holding a football and said "The kids accidentally threw it at your car. There's no damage. Call it done". Well it was dark and I could not see the car that well and I told him I wanted his name and address. The other "adults" started laughing saying things like "You got to be kidding". He did give me his name and number but I'm probably known in this neighborhood as someone who makes a big deal out of something little. I'm not a "good" neighbor. There was no visable damage to the car when I got back but I just want to know if I did the right thing by stopping and getting someones name and number? Was I? Or was I too emotional? My opinion is that even if there was alittle scratch on the car I would be resonsible and a scratch can cost hundreds of dollars. I think my neighbors are a bunch of low lifes. PS. When he said it was accidental I say "yea right" and got pissed. Was I right to do this? The kids just happened to hit the car going down the street. That street gets 1 car every half an hour at that time a night.
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I was driving a family member's car recently at night and I was
going
slowly down a side street in my new neighborhood when someone
threw
something at the car. It was very loud metallic bashing sound
and I
was really scared. I stopped the car and got out and approached
a
group of families that were having a party on their front patio.
I
asked them what hit my car. Everyone pretended like they didn't
know
anything. I was pissed and I guess someone saw this and came
forward.
He was holding a football and said "The kids accidentally threw
it at
your car. There's no damage. Call it done". Well it was dark and
I
could not see the car that well and I told him I wanted his name
and
address. The other "adults" started laughing saying things like
"You
got to be kidding". He did give me his name and number but I'm probably known in this neighborhood as someone who makes a big
deal
out of something little. I'm not a "good" neighbor. There was no visable damage to the car when I got back but I
just want
to know if I did the right thing by stopping and getting
someones name
and number? Was I? Or was I too emotional? My opinion is that
even if
there was alittle scratch on the car I would be resonsible and
a
scratch can cost hundreds of dollars. I think my neighbors are a
bunch
of low lifes. PS. When he said it was accidental I say "yea right" and got
pissed.
Was I right to do this? The kids just happened to hit the car
going
down the street. That street gets 1 car every half an hour at
that
time a night.
Some things in life are worth getting pissed about. Some things are not. The ability to tell the difference comes with maturity. It's up to you to control yourself with intelligence, not emotional reaction. I have no criticism about stopping, checking for damage, questioning the people, asking for a name and phone number. But getting pissed over a football hitting a car is imature. McGyver
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"McGyver" <Greyprof@msn.com> wrote in message news:<2un3h7F2796nfU1@uni-berlin.de>...
going threw and I a I know forward. it at I and "You deal just want someones name even if a bunch pissed. going that Some things in life are worth getting pissed about. Some things are not. The ability to tell the difference comes with maturity. It's up to you to control yourself with intelligence, not emotional reaction. I have no criticism about stopping, checking for damage, questioning the people, asking for a name and phone number. But getting pissed over a football hitting a car is imature. McGyver
The problem in this case was the adults were not going to volunteer any answers. In fact they all pretended not to notice the incident. It was only when I got pissed did someone step forward. If I didn't get pissed in this situation I would not have found out what hit the car. So maturity is also knowing when to use certain behaviors in the right situation.
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"Robert" <rk73737@yahoo.com> wrote
The problem in this case was the adults were not going to volunteer any answers. In fact they all pretended not to notice the incident.
One of them must have been an attorney- or maybe a cop.
It was only when I got pissed did someone step forward.
Yup- now you're not talking about the car anymore, you've braced a grown-up.
If I didn't get pissed in this situation I would not have found out what hit the car.
'what' hit the car is irrelevant- you wanted a voluntary confession, admission of liability, and perhaps a promise to be a good boy in the future.
So maturity is also knowing when to use certain behaviors in the right situation.
You're lucky they didn't beat the snot out of you for not accepting a simple explanation and wanting to work out your nanny complex. No offense. Chas
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"McGyver" <Greyprof@msn.com> wrote in message
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I was driving a family member's car recently at night and I was going slowly down a side street in my new neighborhood when someone threw something at the car. It was very loud metallic bashing sound and I was really scared. I stopped the car and got out and approached a group of families that were having a party on their front patio. I asked them what hit my car. Everyone pretended like they didn't know anything. I was pissed and I guess someone saw this and came forward. He was holding a football and said "The kids accidentally threw it at your car. There's no damage. Call it done". Well it was dark and I could not see the car that well and I told him I wanted his name and address. The other "adults" started laughing saying things like "You got to be kidding". He did give me his name and number but I'm probably known in this neighborhood as someone who makes a big deal out of something little. I'm not a "good" neighbor. There was no visable damage to the car when I got back but I just want to know if I did the right thing by stopping and getting someones name and number? Was I? Or was I too emotional? My opinion is that even if there was alittle scratch on the car I would be resonsible and a scratch can cost hundreds of dollars. I think my neighbors are a bunch of low lifes. PS. When he said it was accidental I say "yea right" and got pissed. Was I right to do this? The kids just happened to hit the car going down the street. That street gets 1 car every half an hour at that time a night. Some things in life are worth getting pissed about. Some things are not. The ability to tell the difference comes with maturity. It's up to you to control yourself with intelligence, not emotional reaction. I have no criticism about stopping, checking for damage, questioning the people, asking for a name and phone number. But getting pissed over a football hitting a car is imature. McGyver
The problem in this case was the adults were not going to volunteer any answers. In fact they all pretended not to notice the incident.
It
was only when I got pissed did someone step forward. If I didn't get pissed in this situation I would not have found out what hit the
car.
So maturity is also knowing when to use certain behaviors in the
right
situation.
Sorry, Robert, rationalization doesn't work. Getting pissed over a football hitting a car is immature. Getting pissed because you are not getting answers to your questions about a football hitting a car is immature. The fact that it worked doesn't change anything. Pretending to be pissed might be a good strategy sometimes, but actually being pissed in this situation is immature. You said nothing in your original post about pretending to be pissed, or making a mature, rational decision to actually be pissed. So, rationalizing your behavior now, in order to avoid the sting of being accused of being immature, doesn't change the fact that your reaction was immature. If you don't want to hear it, or don't want to accept it, that's ok. But it's always best not to kid yourself. McGyver
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I was driving a family member's car recently at night and I was going slowly down a side street in my new neighborhood when someone threw something at the car. It was very loud metallic bashing sound and I was really scared. I stopped the car and got out and approached a group of families that were having a party on their front patio. I asked them what hit my car. Everyone pretended like they didn't know anything. I was pissed and I guess someone saw this and came forward. He was holding a football and said "The kids accidentally threw it at your car. There's no damage. Call it done". Well it was dark and I could not see the car that well and I told him I wanted his name and address. The other "adults" started laughing saying things like "You got to be kidding". He did give me his name and number but I'm probably known in this neighborhood as someone who makes a big deal out of something little. I'm not a "good" neighbor. There was no visable damage to the car when I got back but I just want to know if I did the right thing by stopping and getting someones name and number? Was I? Or was I too emotional? My opinion is that even if there was alittle scratch on the car I would be resonsible and a scratch can cost hundreds of dollars. I think my neighbors are a bunch of low lifes. PS. When he said it was accidental I say "yea right" and got pissed. Was I right to do this? The kids just happened to hit the car going down the street. That street gets 1 car every half an hour at that time a night. Some things in life are worth getting pissed about. Some things are not. The ability to tell the difference comes with maturity. It's up to you to control yourself with intelligence, not emotional reaction. I have no criticism about stopping, checking for damage, questioning the people, asking for a name and phone number. But getting pissed over a football hitting a car is imature. McGyver It car. right Sorry, Robert, rationalization doesn't work. Getting pissed over a football hitting a car is immature. Getting pissed because you are not getting answers to your questions about a football hitting a car is immature. The fact that it worked doesn't change anything. Pretending to be pissed might be a good strategy sometimes, but actually being pissed in this situation is immature. You said nothing in your original post about pretending to be pissed, or making a mature, rational decision to actually be pissed. So, rationalizing your behavior now, in order to avoid the sting of being accused of being immature, doesn't change the fact that your reaction was immature. If you don't want to hear it, or don't want to accept it, that's ok. But it's always best not to kid yourself. McGyver
I'm really surprised at your response to this poster. Your legal posts are almost always dead on, well written and helpful. However, I think you're way off the mark this time. Playing football in a location where the football can hit and interfere with passing traffic is dangerous and legally negligent. Most jurisdictions hold person liable for the tortious conduct of their children -- the tort is styled as "negligent supervision." "It was an accident" is not a defense to liability for damage caused by the negligence of children, and was not an appropriate response to the original poster. I don't think he was immature, either in confronting the negligent parents of the children (who were endangering others, including their children, by allowing the conduct in question) or in asking for identification. If it were me, and there had been damage to my car, I would have reported it to my insurance company which would, without question, have gone after the parents in subrogation.
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"McGyver" <Greyprof@msn.com> wrote in message news:<2uqcibF2ct652U1@uni-berlin.de>...
news:<2un3h7F2796nfU1@uni-berlin.de>...
I was driving a family member's car recently at night and I was going slowly down a side street in my new neighborhood when someone threw something at the car. It was very loud metallic bashing sound and I was really scared. I stopped the car and got out and approached a group of families that were having a party on their front patio. I asked them what hit my car. Everyone pretended like they didn't know anything. I was pissed and I guess someone saw this and came forward. He was holding a football and said "The kids accidentally threw it at your car. There's no damage. Call it done". Well it was dark and I could not see the car that well and I told him I wanted his name and address. The other "adults" started laughing saying things like "You got to be kidding". He did give me his name and number but I'm probably known in this neighborhood as someone who makes a big deal out of something little. I'm not a "good" neighbor. There was no visable damage to the car when I got back but I just want to know if I did the right thing by stopping and getting someones name and number? Was I? Or was I too emotional? My opinion is that even if there was alittle scratch on the car I would be resonsible and a scratch can cost hundreds of dollars. I think my neighbors are a bunch of low lifes. PS. When he said it was accidental I say "yea right" and got pissed. Was I right to do this? The kids just happened to hit the car going down the street. That street gets 1 car every half an hour at that time a night. Some things in life are worth getting pissed about. Some things are not. The ability to tell the difference comes with maturity. It's up to you to control yourself with intelligence, not emotional reaction. I have no criticism about stopping, checking for damage, questioning the people, asking for a name and phone number. But getting pissed over a football hitting a car is imature. McGyver It car. right Sorry, Robert, rationalization doesn't work. Getting pissed over a football hitting a car is immature. Getting pissed because you are not getting answers to your questions about a football hitting a car is immature. The fact that it worked doesn't change anything. Pretending to be pissed might be a good strategy sometimes, but actually being pissed in this situation is immature. You said nothing in your original post about pretending to be pissed, or making a mature, rational decision to actually be pissed. So, rationalizing your behavior now, in order to avoid the sting of being accused of being immature, doesn't change the fact that your reaction was immature. If you don't want to hear it, or don't want to accept it, that's ok. But it's always best not to kid yourself. McGyver
You don't get it. I would not have found out what hit the car if I didn't get pissed. I became pissed when everyone was ignoring me even though everyone heard the sound. It was a natural reaction to tell these people they were jerks given that my car was struck by a a good sized object coming from their yard. I didn't pretend to be pissed and I'm glad it just came out beciuse as soon as I did I found out what happened and who was going to take responsibility for any damage, if there was any. I know someone who got a small dent in their car. The repair bill: $300.00. Getting pissed was reasonable in this case.
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"PTravel" <ptravel@ruyitang.com> wrote in message news:<2uqi01F2dlu05U1@uni-berlin.de>...
I'm really surprised at your response to this poster. Your legal posts are almost always dead on, well written and helpful. However, I think you're way off the mark this time. Playing football in a location where the football can hit and interfere with passing traffic is dangerous and legally negligent. Most jurisdictions hold person liable for the tortious conduct of their children -- the tort is styled as "negligent supervision." "It was an accident" is not a defense to liability for damage caused by the negligence of children, and was not an appropriate response to the original poster. I don't think he was immature, either in confronting the negligent parents of the children (who were endangering others, including their children, by allowing the conduct in question) or in asking for identification. If it were me, and there had been damage to my car, I would have reported it to my insurance company which would, without question, have gone after the parents in subrogation.
Smart guy. I wouldn't mind having you for a neighbor.
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I'm really surprised at your response to this poster. Your legal
posts are
almost always dead on, well written and helpful. However, I think
you're
way off the mark this time. Playing football in a location where the football can hit and
interfere with
passing traffic is dangerous and legally negligent. Most
jurisdictions hold
person liable for the tortious conduct of their children -- the tort
is
styled as "negligent supervision." "It was an accident" is not a defense to liability for damage caused
by the
negligence of children, and was not an appropriate response to the
original
poster. I don't think he was immature, either in confronting the negligent
parents
of the children (who were endangering others, including their
children, by
allowing the conduct in question) or in asking for identification.
If it
were me, and there had been damage to my car, I would have reported
it to my
insurance company which would, without question, have gone after the
parents
in subrogation.
I agree. I had no criticism about confronting and asking for ID. The criticism was about getting pissed. The original question included: "When he said it was accidental I say "yea right" and got pissed. Was I right to do this?" Maybe I didn't make it clear that I have no problem with the poster's actions other than getting pissed over a minor incident. And of course, your proposed reaction, following questioning and identification with an insurance claim, would have been great. McGyver
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"McGyver" <Greyprof@msn.com> wrote in message
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I was driving a family member's car recently at night and I was going slowly down a side street in my new neighborhood when someone threw something at the car. It was very loud metallic bashing sound and I was really scared. I stopped the car and got out and approached a group of families that were having a party on their front patio. I asked them what hit my car. Everyone pretended like they didn't know anything. I was pissed and I guess someone saw this and came forward. He was holding a football and said "The kids accidentally threw it at your car. There's no damage. Call it done". Well it was dark and I could not see the car that well and I told him I wanted his name and address. The other "adults" started laughing saying things like "You got to be kidding". He did give me his name and number but I'm probably known in this neighborhood as someone who makes a big deal out of something little. I'm not a "good" neighbor. There was no visable damage to the car when I got back but I just want to know if I did the right thing by stopping and getting someones name and number? Was I? Or was I too emotional? My opinion is that even if there was alittle scratch on the car I would be resonsible and a scratch can cost hundreds of dollars. I think my neighbors are a bunch of low lifes. PS. When he said it was accidental I say "yea right" and got pissed. Was I right to do this? The kids just happened to hit the car going down the street. That street gets 1 car every half an hour at that time a night. Some things in life are worth getting pissed about. Some things are not. The ability to tell the difference comes with maturity. It's up to you to control yourself with intelligence, not emotional reaction. I have no criticism about stopping, checking for damage, questioning the people, asking for a name and phone number. But getting pissed over a football hitting a car is imature. McGyver The problem in this case was the adults were not going to volunteer any answers. In fact they all pretended not to notice the incident. It was only when I got pissed did someone step forward. If I didn't get pissed in this situation I would not have found out what hit the car. So maturity is also knowing when to use certain behaviors in the right situation. Sorry, Robert, rationalization doesn't work. Getting pissed over a football hitting a car is immature. Getting pissed because you are not getting answers to your questions about a football hitting a car is immature. The fact that it worked doesn't change anything. Pretending to be pissed might be a good strategy sometimes, but actually being pissed in this situation is immature. You said nothing in your original post about pretending to be pissed, or making a mature, rational decision to actually be pissed. So, rationalizing your behavior now, in order to avoid the sting of being accused of being immature, doesn't change the fact that your reaction was immature. If you don't want to hear it, or don't want to accept it, that's ok. But it's always best not to kid yourself. McGyver
You don't get it. I would not have found out what hit the car if I didn't get pissed. I became pissed when everyone was ignoring me
even
though everyone heard the sound. It was a natural reaction to tell these people they were jerks given that my car was struck by a a
good
sized object coming from their yard. I didn't pretend to be pissed
and
I'm glad it just came out beciuse as soon as I did I found out what happened and who was going to take responsibility for any damage, if there was any. I know someone who got a small dent in their car. The repair bill: $300.00. Getting pissed was reasonable in this case.
You don't get it. If you have to get pissed in order to get something you want, then go for it. If you conclude that there is no other possible way to find out who threw what, go for it. If as you say, "getting pissed was reasonable in this case", then congratulations on choosing the reasonable approach. But based on the way you told the story, I don't think you got pissed because you thought it would be a good idea. I think you got pissed as an immature emotional reaction. Did you notice that in the response of PTravel, who you called "smart" (I agree) and who you "wouldn't mind having for a neighbor" (I agree), PTravel described a suggested reaction to the incident which did not include getting pissed as a recommendation? By the way, if you already know that what you did was reasonable, mature and successful, why did you ask the original question? McGyver
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"McGyver" <Greyprof@msn.com> wrote in message news:<2uso3tF2ffbf3U1@uni-berlin.de>...
news:<2uqcibF2ct652U1@uni-berlin.de>...
I was driving a family member's car recently at night and I was going slowly down a side street in my new neighborhood when someone threw something at the car. It was very loud metallic bashing sound and I was really scared. I stopped the car and got out and approached a group of families that were having a party on their front patio. I asked them what hit my car. Everyone pretended like they didn't know anything. I was pissed and I guess someone saw this and came forward. He was holding a football and said "The kids accidentally threw it at your car. There's no damage. Call it done". Well it was dark and I could not see the car that well and I told him I wanted his name and address. The other "adults" started laughing saying things like "You got to be kidding". He did give me his name and number but I'm probably known in this neighborhood as someone who makes a big deal out of something little. I'm not a "good" neighbor. There was no visable damage to the car when I got back but I just want to know if I did the right thing by stopping and getting someones name and number? Was I? Or was I too emotional? My opinion is that even if there was alittle scratch on the car I would be resonsible and a scratch can cost hundreds of dollars. I think my neighbors are a bunch of low lifes. PS. When he said it was accidental I say "yea right" and got pissed. Was I right to do this? The kids just happened to hit the car going down the street. That street gets 1 car every half an hour at that time a night. Some things in life are worth getting pissed about. Some things are not. The ability to tell the difference comes with maturity. It's up to you to control yourself with intelligence, not emotional reaction. I have no criticism about stopping, checking for damage, questioning the people, asking for a name and phone number. But getting pissed over a football hitting a car is imature. McGyver The problem in this case was the adults were not going to volunteer any answers. In fact they all pretended not to notice the incident. It was only when I got pissed did someone step forward. If I didn't get pissed in this situation I would not have found out what hit the car. So maturity is also knowing when to use certain behaviors in the right situation. Sorry, Robert, rationalization doesn't work. Getting pissed over a football hitting a car is immature. Getting pissed because you are not getting answers to your questions about a football hitting a car is immature. The fact that it worked doesn't change anything. Pretending to be pissed might be a good strategy sometimes, but actually being pissed in this situation is immature. You said nothing in your original post about pretending to be pissed, or making a mature, rational decision to actually be pissed. So, rationalizing your behavior now, in order to avoid the sting of being accused of being immature, doesn't change the fact that your reaction was immature. If you don't want to hear it, or don't want to accept it, that's ok. But it's always best not to kid yourself. McGyver even good and You don't get it. If you have to get pissed in order to get something you want, then go for it. If you conclude that there is no other possible way to find out who threw what, go for it. If as you say, "getting pissed was reasonable in this case", then congratulations on choosing the reasonable approach. But based on the way you told the story, I don't think you got pissed because you thought it would be a good idea. I think you got pissed as an immature emotional reaction. Did you notice that in the response of PTravel, who you called "smart" (I agree) and who you "wouldn't mind having for a neighbor" (I agree), PTravel described a suggested reaction to the incident which did not include getting pissed as a recommendation? By the way, if you already know that what you did was reasonable, mature and successful, why did you ask the original question? McGyver
First, I did not say my reaction was the best way to handle the situation. It only got what I needed to know. I don't know what else I could have done short of calling the police but buy the time they got there people may have left. Suppose it was a damaging thing (such as a rock)that hit the car? I didn't know and could not tell in the dark. Second, I asked because my neighbors reaction was very different than the way I would have reacted. I would have looked the person's car over carefully, apologized profusely and scolded my son. The jerks in my neighborhood did nothing of the sort. I just wanted some feedback in a legal context as to if I did the right thing by asking for identification. Your opinion is valid but certainly I know I'm not immature for getting pissed. Immature is the other guy who lives next to me who when I call him to tell him his dog has been barking since 7:30 am for the last 5 hours, comes home puts a shock collar on the dog and blasts his stereo all night. That's immature. Not the guy who gets pissed because something was thrown at his car and the seven adults within 20 feet pretend they heard nothing.
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"McGyver" <Greyprof@msn.com> wrote in message
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I was driving a family member's car recently at night and I was going slowly down a side street in my new neighborhood when someone threw something at the car. It was very loud metallic bashing sound and I was really scared. I stopped the car and got out and approached a group of families that were having a party on their front patio. I asked them what hit my car. Everyone pretended like they didn't know anything. I was pissed and I guess someone saw this and came forward. He was holding a football and said "The kids accidentally threw it at your car. There's no damage. Call it done". Well it was dark and I could not see the car that well and I told him I wanted his name and address. The other "adults" started laughing saying things like "You got to be kidding". He did give me his name and number but I'm probably known in this neighborhood as someone who makes a big deal out of something little. I'm not a "good" neighbor. There was no visable damage to the car when I got back but I just want to know if I did the right thing by stopping and getting someones name and number? Was I? Or was I too emotional? My opinion is that even if there was alittle scratch on the car I would be resonsible and a scratch can cost hundreds of dollars. I think my neighbors are a bunch of low lifes. PS. When he said it was accidental I say "yea right" and got pissed. Was I right to do this? The kids just happened to hit the car going down the street. That street gets 1 car every half an hour at that time a night. Some things in life are worth getting pissed about. Some things are not. The ability to tell the difference comes with maturity. It's up to you to control yourself with intelligence, not emotional reaction. I have no criticism about stopping, checking for damage, questioning the people, asking for a name and phone number. But getting pissed over a football hitting a car is imature. McGyver The problem in this case was the adults were not going to volunteer any answers. In fact they all pretended not to notice the incident. It was only when I got pissed did someone step forward. If I didn't get pissed in this situation I would not have found out what hit the car. So maturity is also knowing when to use certain behaviors in the right situation. Sorry, Robert, rationalization doesn't work. Getting pissed over a football hitting a car is immature. Getting pissed because you are not getting answers to your questions about a football hitting a car is immature. The fact that it worked doesn't change anything. Pretending to be pissed might be a good strategy sometimes, but actually being pissed in this situation is immature. You said nothing in your original post about pretending to be pissed, or making a mature, rational decision to actually be pissed. So, rationalizing your behavior now, in order to avoid the sting of being accused of being immature, doesn't change the fact that your reaction was immature. If you don't want to hear it, or don't want to accept it, that's ok. But it's always best not to kid yourself. McGyver You don't get it. I would not have found out what hit the car if I didn't get pissed. I became pissed when everyone was ignoring me even though everyone heard the sound. It was a natural reaction to tell these people they were jerks given that my car was struck by a a good sized object coming from their yard. I didn't pretend to be pissed and I'm glad it just came out beciuse as soon as I did I found out what happened and who was going to take responsibility for any damage, if there was any. I know someone who got a small dent in their car. The repair bill: $300.00. Getting pissed was reasonable in this case. You don't get it. If you have to get pissed in order to get something you want, then go for it. If you conclude that there is no other possible way to find out who threw what, go for it. If as you say, "getting pissed was reasonable in this case", then congratulations on choosing the reasonable approach. But based on the way you told the story, I don't think you got pissed because you thought it would be a good idea. I think you got pissed as an immature emotional reaction. Did you notice that in the response of PTravel, who you called "smart" (I agree) and who you "wouldn't mind having for a neighbor" (I agree), PTravel described a suggested reaction to the incident which did not include getting pissed as a recommendation? By the way, if you already know that what you did was reasonable, mature and successful, why did you ask the original question? McGyver
First, I did not say my reaction was the best way to handle the situation. It only got what I needed to know. I don't know what else
I
could have done short of calling the police but buy the time they
got
there people may have left. Suppose it was a damaging thing (such as
a
rock)that hit the car? I didn't know and could not tell in the dark. Second, I asked because my neighbors reaction was very different
than
the way I would have reacted. I would have looked the person's car over carefully, apologized profusely and scolded my son. The jerks
in
my neighborhood did nothing of the sort. I just wanted some feedback in a legal context as to if I did the right thing by asking for identification. Your opinion is valid but certainly I know I'm not immature for getting pissed. Immature is the other guy who lives
next
to me who when I call him to tell him his dog has been barki
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