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Jim,
I sent this to [DELETED], but never heard back from him. Perhaps
Dr. Newdow might find some of the information useful as he publicly
explains his position on this issue. It could be exceptionally helpful when
some Senator, or Congressperson, mouths off about any one of the items on
the document they endorsed. I sincerely doubt that any of them, or their
office staffs, examined the sources of the statements as closely as I have.
Just a passing thought for your consideration...and the fact that I hate to
see all my research end up in limbo...again. :-)
Cheers,
Glen
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 02:17:12 -0400
To: [DELETED]
From: "Glen [DELETED]
Subject: Only a dead draft!
Dear Mr. [DELETED]
At one point I thought it might be beneficial to notify the 99
Senators (their offices) with what it was that they had actually endorsed.
(Very likely a collection of David Barton historical propaganda.) After
doing the basic homework, I was able to enlist a graduate student (Richard
Morley) to supply his expertise in HTML language and personal knowledge to
the rough draft that I had forwarded to him at his thoughtful request.
This was the result...although this e-mail transmission may well mess up
the paragraph and URL spacings that existed in his original effort.
Unfortunately, this effort will have to remain a work in progress and
never be finished in the manner that I had hoped it might be...a clear
indication of just how little our politicians know about the accurate
history of our country and upon what its government was founded.
I realize that it is far too long to ever be read by one of our
politicians, but thought you might find some of the research helpful in
your efforts to educate the public about the accurate history of our
country. Additionally, I found rather convincing evidence in "Pilgram's
Progress" that the "Mayflower Compact" was more of a socio-economic pact
of peace between differing Christians, who had happened to arrive here
together seeking economic independence rather than escaping from religious
persecution, than a religious document contributing to the claim (false)
that this is a Christian Nation.
Should you attempt a hyperlink to the George Wasgington quote
found in Ferrand's Records Vol III, CCLXXXV, be sure to add to parenthesis
marks after the final number (fr003308)).
If you should have any questions/comments, please don't hesitate
to contact me at [DELETED]
Sincerely,
Glen [DELETED]
Lt. Col. USAF (Ret)
[This has been updated by me with some additional info since 2002]
SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES
ELK GROVE UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT et al. v. NEWDOW et al.
certiorari to the united states court of appeals for the ninth circuit
No. 02-1624. Argued March 24, 2004-Decided June 14, 2004
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/elkgrove.html
Congress amended the Pledge to include the phrase "under God" in 1954. The
amendment's sponsor, Representative Rabaut, said its purpose was to
contrast this country's belief in God with the Soviet Union's embrace of
atheism. We do not know what other Members of Congress thought about the
purpose of the amendment. Following the decision of the Court of Appeals in
this case, Congress passed legislation that made extensive findings about
the historic role of religion in the political development of the Nation
and reaffirmed the text of the Pledge. Act of Nov. 13, 2002, Pub. L.
107-293, 1-2, 116 Stat. 2057-2060. (Rehnquist concurring)
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http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:S.2690:
There are 6 versions of Bill Number S.2690 for the 107th Congress
1 . To reaffirm the reference to one Nation under God in the Pledge of
Allegiance. (Engrossed as Agreed to or Passed by Senate)[S.2690.ES]
2 . To reaffirm the reference to one Nation under God in the Pledge of
Allegiance. (Referred to House Committee after being Received from
Senate)[S.2690.RFH]
3 . To reaffirm the reference to one Nation under God in the Pledge of
Allegiance. (Introduced in Senate)[S.2690.IS]
4 . [For text of introduced bill, see copy of bill as introduced on June
27, 2002] (Reported in House)[S.2690.RH]
5 . Resolved, That the bill from the Senate (S. 2690) entitled `An Act to
reaffirm the reference to one Nation under God in the Pledge of
Allegiance', do pass with the following (Engrossed Amendment as Agreed to
by House)[S.2690.EAH]
6 . To reaffirm the reference to one Nation under God in the Pledge of
Allegiance. (Enrolled as Agreed to or Passed by Both House and
Senate)[S.2690.ENR]
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http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c107:6:./temp/~c107XIr2fr::
To reaffirm the reference to one Nation under God in the Pledge of
Allegiance. (Enrolled as Agreed to or Passed by Both House and Senate)
--S.2690--
S.2690
One Hundred Seventh Congress
of the
United States of America
AT THE SECOND SESSION
Begun and held at the City of Washington on Wednesday,
the twenty-third day of January, two thousand and two
An Act
To reaffirm the reference to one Nation under God in the Pledge of
Allegiance.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. FINDINGS.
Congress finds the following:
(1) On November 11, 1620, prior to embarking for the shores of
America, the Pilgrims signed the Mayflower Compact that declared: `Having
undertaken, for the Glory of God and the advancement of the Christian Faith
and honor of our King and country, a voyage to plant the first colony in
the northern parts of Virginia,'.
Error 1: The Mayflower Compact was signed in the New World, at Cape Cod, on
11 Nov, 1620....NOT PRIOR TO EMBARKING FOR THE SHORES OF AMERICA.
Insight 1: Puritans wanted to purify the Church of England, while
Separatists took a more extreme approach--desiring to separate entirely
from it. Mayflower passengers (at least those passengers belonging to the
Pilgrim's church in Leyden) are properly classified as Separatists. In
general, Separatist views were not as extreme as Puritanical beliefs
regarding social customs, but were more extreme when it came to separating
ties with the established Church of England. There are also some
significant differences between the Pilgrim and Puritan views regarding the
relationship between Church and State. Both Puritanism and the Pilgrims'
separatist movement, as well as Presbyterianism, descend from John Calvin
and the Calvinists of the mid-1500s.
http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/amerdoc/mayflower.htm
http://members.aol.com/calebj/passenger.html
http://members.aol.com/calebj/mayflower.html
(2) On July 4, 1776, America's Founding Fathers, after
appealing to the `Laws of Nature, and of Nature's God' to justify their
separation from Great Britain, then declared: `We hold these Truths to be
self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by
their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life,
Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness'.
Insight 2: There are 146 years between 1620 and 1776. S
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buckeye-ELO@nospam.net wrote:
Jim,
I sent this to [DELETED], but never heard back from him. Perhaps
Dr. Newdow might find some of the information useful
Newdow, Newdow... wasn't that the guy that lost a few times?
Maybe [DELETED] decided it wasn't worth it to consider it and
pushed the [DELETE] key?
Probably.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
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On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 4:13:31 -0600, John P. Boatwright wrote
(in message <419F187C.2ACC@For-God.net>):
buckeye-ELO@nospam.net wrote:
Newdow, Newdow... wasn't that the guy that lost a few times?
But not as many times as did the colonists in rebellion
against King George #3.
Maybe [DELETED] decided it wasn't worth it to consider it and
pushed the [DELETE] key?
And maybe you're not talking out of your mouth.
Probably.
Ah! A living profit.
God made it all, Jesus died for our sins.
If one was raised in a Windows XPian family, especially
in the European and American land masses.
if one were raised in other areas, the religious myths are quite different;
however, all have proved worthy as means to keep the population submissive to
the "ruling class" whatever that happens to be - this week.
Proof God described the planet density profile
BEFORE science did:
http://home.teleport.com/~salad/4god/density.htm
So you're saying that your god "predicted" rather than "created"?
(see the 2 graphs, obviously God was right in Genesis)
I wish someone would do a "learned treatise" on The Big Guy's bar bet
with Satan where God screwed over Job to impress Satan (from the Windows XP
side, I mean; I've read Jung on it).
Mirror site at: http://For-God.net
Gray Shockley
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Pain is evitable but suffering is optional.
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Gray Shockley wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 4:13:31 -0600, John P. Boatwright wrote
(in message <419F187C.2ACC@For-God.net>):
But not as many times
You have no idea of what you are talking about.
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