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Dead scientist conspiracy?



Ilena Rose
11/21/2004 10:31:49 AM


Note from Ilena: Anyone have more information on these claims?
Dead scientist conspiracy?
http://www.businessreform.com/article.php?articleID=10744&ofid=61
by Marilyn Barnewall
November 16, 2004
I have to admit to having been an X-files fan. Fox Mulder and Dana
Scully were for years part of my weekly television viewing life.
An article I read, however, beats any X-Files script I ever watched.
The original story, published by Rense.com on July 20, 2003 by Ian
Gurney, is about twenty scientists, all top in their fields, who have
died of "unnatural" causes (murder) since September 11, 2001. All of
them specialized in microbiology. Many were experts in emerging
infectious diseases and bioterrorism.
After two days on the Internet reading newspaper stories and
obituaries from London, Australia, Canada, Russia, Israel and the
United States, I can tell you that twenty scientists did not die since
9-11. Nope. The number is forty-four.
Dr. Benito Que, a cell biologist, worked on how infectious diseases
can be genetically engineered into bio-warfare programs. He died in
Miami on December 6 after being beaten by four men with baseball bats,
November 12...
 
 
"Nana Weedkiller"
11/21/2004 4:57:39 PM




"Ilena Rose" <ilena@san.rr.com> wrote in message
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Note from Ilena: Anyone have more information on these claims?
Dead scientist conspiracy?
Sure. Make sure your Tin Foil hat is screwed in before reading.
http://www.stevequayle.com/C2C.index.dead.scientist.html
 
 
"john"
11/21/2004 8:20:39 PM


Thanks
My favourite is the marconi dead scientists
http://www.whale.to/b/marconi.html, no doubt bumped off to protect their
mind control ploys using towers, mostly http://www.whale.to/b/tetra.html
Of course they have a biowarfare project to kill us off, so they don't want
that leaking out--you can see one scientist they failed to bump off
http://www.whale.to/b/micro.html That is AIDS, for starters.
Then the pesticide alzheimers scientists have to be bumped off
http://www.whale.to/b/pesticides_q.html
anyone who thinks our governments (in reality the cartel) bump off people by
the buckeload is living in cloud cuckoo land. You can't run a monopoly and
the drugs trade without killing off whistleblowers
http://www.whale.to/b/killings_h.html


"Ilena Rose" <ilena@san.rr.com> wrote in message
news:ang1q0tstt5km58r1251742ot6ppjmj6l9@4ax.com...

Note from Ilena: Anyone have more information on these claims?
Dead scientist conspiracy?
http://www.businessreform.com/article.php?articleID=10744&ofid=61
by Marilyn Barnewall
November 16, 2004
I have to admit to having been an X-files fan. Fox Mulder and Dana
Scully were for years part of my weekly television viewing life.
An article I read, however, beats any X-Files script I ever watched.
The original story, published by Rense.com on July 20, 2003 by Ian
Gurney, is about twenty scientists, all top in their fields, who have
died of "unnatural" causes (murder) since September 11, 2001. All of
them specialized in microbiology. Many were experts in emerging
infectious diseases and bioterrorism.
After two days on the Internet reading newspaper stories and
obituaries from London, Australia, Canada, Russia, Israel and the
United States, I can tell you that twenty scientists did not die since
9-11. Nope. The number is forty-four.
Dr. Benito Que, a cell biologist, worked on how infectious diseases
can be genetically engineered into bio-warfare programs. He died in
Miami on December 6 after being beaten by four men with baseball bats,
November 12...
 
 
"john"
11/21/2004 8:23:08 PM


http://www.stevequayle.com/C2C.index.dead.scientist.html


"Ilena Rose" <ilena@san.rr.com> wrote in message
news:ang1q0tstt5km58r1251742ot6ppjmj6l9@4ax.com...

Note from Ilena: Anyone have more information on these claims?
Dead scientist conspiracy?
http://www.businessreform.com/article.php?articleID=10744&ofid=61
by Marilyn Barnewall
November 16, 2004
I have to admit to having been an X-files fan. Fox Mulder and Dana
Scully were for years part of my weekly television viewing life.
An article I read, however, beats any X-Files script I ever watched.
The original story, published by Rense.com on July 20, 2003 by Ian
Gurney, is about twenty scientists, all top in their fields, who have
died of "unnatural" causes (murder) since September 11, 2001. All of
them specialized in microbiology. Many were experts in emerging
infectious diseases and bioterrorism.
After two days on the Internet reading newspaper stories and
obituaries from London, Australia, Canada, Russia, Israel and the
United States, I can tell you that twenty scientists did not die since
9-11. Nope. The number is forty-four.
Dr. Benito Que, a cell biologist, worked on how infectious diseases
can be genetically engineered into bio-warfare programs. He died in
Miami on December 6 after being beaten by four men with baseball bats,
November 12...
 
 
Orac
11/22/2004 12:34:14 AM


In article <ang1q0tstt5km58r1251742ot6ppjmj6l9@4ax.com>,
Ilena Rose <ilena@san.rr.com> wrote:
Note from Ilena: Anyone have more information on these claims?
Dead scientist conspiracy?
http://www.businessreform.com/article.php?articleID=10744&ofid=61
If it was originally reported at Rense.com, that immediately should make
it very suspect. Have you ever actually read Rense.com? It's full of
nothing but conspiracy theories.
--
Orac |"I am not interested in trying to compensate
| for your amazing lack of observation."
|
| Orac
 
 
"charliew2"
11/21/2004 9:23:50 PM


Orac wrote:
In article <ang1q0tstt5km58r1251742ot6ppjmj6l9@4ax.com>,
Ilena Rose <ilena@san.rr.com> wrote:
If it was originally reported at Rense.com, that immediately should
make it very suspect. Have you ever actually read Rense.com? It's
full of nothing but conspiracy theories.
Oh, but the X-files are real! And government agents are watching every one
of us! ;-)
(It's difficult to know when paranoia is becoming irrational, isn't it?)
 
 
Ilena Rose
11/22/2004 6:31:49 AM


http://www.stevequayle.com/C2C.index.dead.scientist.html
 
 
"David Fabian"
11/23/2004 7:48:37 AM


"Orac" <orac_usa@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:orac_usa-0DD600.19343521112004@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
If it was originally reported at Rense.com, that immediately should make
it very suspect. Have you ever actually read Rense.com? It's full of
nothing but conspiracy theories.
So you think, because a conspiracy theory is listed among *other*
conspiracy theories, that it must be false?
 
 
"Mark Probert"
11/23/2004 8:50:02 AM




"David Fabian" <david.m.fabian@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"Orac" <orac_usa@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:orac_usa-0DD600.19343521112004@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
If it was originally reported at Rense.com, that immediately should make
it very suspect. Have you ever actually read Rense.com? It's full of
nothing but conspiracy theories.
So you think, because a conspiracy theory is listed among *other*
conspiracy theories, that it must be false?
What part of "make it suspect" did you not understand?
 
 
Ilena Rose
11/24/2004 6:30:01 AM


On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 07:48:37 GMT, "David Fabian"
<david.m.fabian@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
"Orac" <orac_usa@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:orac_usa-0DD600.19343521112004@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
So you think, because a conspiracy theory is listed among *other*
conspiracy theories, that it must be false?
With fools like Dave Gorski parroting the Quack / Healthfraud
propaganda as "science" ... he appears to have no ability to think for
himself.
May God protect his patients.
 
 
Ilena Rose
11/24/2004 6:36:02 AM


On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:50:02 -0500, "Mark Probert" <Mark
Probert@lumbercartel.com> wrote:
What part of "make it suspect" did you not understand?
For me .... it was his ignoring the stories of over 40 dead scientists
.... while being a Guerrilla Ragtag Posse Troll.
 
 
"Mark Probert"
11/24/2004 9:23:44 AM


"Ilena Rose" <ilena@san.rr.com> in her official capacity as the Directorix
of the FDA DE-listed, San Diego DE-licensed, and apparently DE-funct


Humantics Foundation, wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:50:02 -0500, "Mark Probert" <Mark
Probert@lumbercartel.com> wrote:
For me ....
Yawn. Who cares what you "think"?
 
 
"Mark Probert"
11/24/2004 9:25:08 AM


"Ilena Rose" <ilena@san.rr.com> in her official capacity as the Directorix
of the FDA DE-listed, San Diego DE-licensed, and apparently DE-funct


Humantics Foundation, wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 07:48:37 GMT, "David Fabian"
<david.m.fabian@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
With fools like Dave Gorski parroting the Quack / Healthfraud
propaganda as "science" ... he appears to have no ability to think for
himself.
May God protect his patients.
May you never need his skills, and, if you do, may your surgeon read your
nasty posts first.
 
 
Ilena Rose
11/24/2004 1:02:14 PM


On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:25:08 -0500, "Mark Probert" <Mark
Probert@lumbercartel.com> wrote:
May you never need his skills
blindness and allegiance to the Kings of Quacks is quackery ... not
skills.
 
 
"Mark Probert"
11/24/2004 4:30:46 PM


"Ilena Rose" <ilena@san.rr.com> in her official capacity as the *D*ominating
*D*irectorix of the FDA *DE*-listed, San Diego *DE*-licensed, and apparently


*DE*-funct Humantics Foundation, wrote in message
news:flm9q0h49qnqbopb8ubq5pf4631ogjb8di@4ax.com...

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 09:25:08 -0500, "Mark Probert" <Mark
Probert@lumbercartel.com> wrote:
blindness and allegiance to the Kings of Quacks is quackery ... not
skills.
May you never need his skills, and, if you do, may your surgeon read your
nasty posts first.
 
 
Orac
11/26/2004 8:55:18 PM


In article <pXBod.23643$fC4.15600@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>,
"David Fabian" <david.m.fabian@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


"Orac" <orac_usa@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:orac_usa-0DD600.19343521112004@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...

So you think, because a conspiracy theory is listed among *other*
conspiracy theories, that it must be false?
No, but because a conspiracy theory is listed with other crackpot
conspiracy theories, it has a high likelihood of being false. It is
incumbent upon the person advocating the conspiracy theory to prove the
theory true.
--
Orac |"I am not interested in trying to compensate
| for your amazing lack of observation."
|
| Orac
 
 
Orac
11/26/2004 8:56:57 PM


In article <fkv8q0dngdc756sd9rkc87n4brb0qmpgir@4ax.com>,
Ilena Rose <ilena@san.rr.com> wrote:
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 07:48:37 GMT, "David Fabian"
<david.m.fabian@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
With fools like Dave Gorski parroting the Quack / Healthfraud
propaganda as "science" ... he appears to have no ability to think for
himself.
May God protect his patients.
With fools like Ilena, who swallow unquestioningly any claim that agrees
with their biases and refuse to even consider any claim that does not,
may God help those she "advocates" for.
--
Orac |"I am not interested in trying to compensate
| for your amazing lack of observation."
|
| Orac
 
 
Orac
11/26/2004 8:57:53 PM


In article <ovv8q0tmr1rs54c4kf2gf5eou5o3pb1mat@4ax.com>,
Ilena Rose <ilena@san.rr.com> wrote:
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 08:50:02 -0500, "Mark Probert" <Mark
Probert@lumbercartel.com> wrote:
For me .... it was his ignoring the stories of over 40 dead scientists
... while being a Guerrilla Ragtag Posse Troll.
Your swallowing this conspiracy theory so easily is yet one more
indication of just how gullible you are when it comes to anything that
fits in with your paranoid world view.
--
Orac |"I am not interested in trying to compensate
| for your amazing lack of observation."
|
| Orac
 
 
Orac
11/27/2004 6:16:20 PM


In article <10q2mro2cl4ka4f@corp.supernews.com>,
"charliew2" <charliew2@ev1.net> wrote:
Orac wrote:
Oh, but the X-files are real! And government agents are watching every one
of us! ;-)
(It's difficult to know when paranoia is becoming irrational, isn't it?)
Next you'll tell me the Cigarette Smoking Man wasn't real either....
--
Orac |"I am not interested in trying to compensate
| for your amazing lack of observation."
|
| Orac
 
 
Ilena Rose
11/27/2004 5:29:51 PM


On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 18:16:20 -0500, Orac <orac_usa@hotmail.com> wrote:
You Quacks pretend that multi million dollar Public Relations
Campaigns are "black helicopters" ...
Blind, deaf, and very dumb.
Quack Ragtag Posse Flacks
www.humanticsfoundation.com/andysposse.htm#RagtagPosse
 
 
Orac
11/28/2004 3:16:58 PM


In article <vd3iq0lp5ut8k5t8195c2348rdg5d9rbr1@4ax.com>,
Ilena Rose <ilena@san.rr.com> wrote:
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 18:16:20 -0500, Orac <orac_usa@hotmail.com> wrote:
You Quacks pretend that multi million dollar Public Relations
Campaigns are "black helicopters" ...
No, we tell you when conspiracy theories are obviously just
that--conspiracy theories.
--
Orac |"I am not interested in trying to compensate
| for your amazing lack of observation."
|
| Orac
 
 
Ilena Rose
11/28/2004 5:13:16 PM


On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 15:16:58 -0500, Orac <orac_usa@hotmail.com> wrote:
In article <vd3iq0lp5ut8k5t8195c2348rdg5d9rbr1@4ax.com>,
Ilena Rose <ilena@san.rr.com> wrote:
No, we tell you when conspiracy theories are obviously just
that--conspiracy theories.
Your Quack based opinions that is.
You Quacks pretend that multi million dollar Public Relations
Campaigns are "black helicopters" ...
 
 
Orac
11/28/2004 7:07:09 PM


In article <crmkq0h2hvovjefoqph03qkg5ukp1jcb1p@4ax.com>,
Ilena Rose <ilena@san.rr.com> wrote:
On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 15:16:58 -0500, Orac <orac_usa@hotmail.com> wrote:
Your Quack based opinions that is.
No, my reason- and evidence-based opinion.
You Quacks pretend that multi million dollar Public Relations
Campaigns are "black helicopters" ...
No, paranoid conspiracy theories of the type favored by you are paranoid
conspiracy theories. That's all.
--
Orac |"I am not interested in trying to compensate
| for your amazing lack of observation."
|
| Orac
 
 
Ilena Rose
11/29/2004 7:52:20 AM


On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:07:09 -0500, Orac <orac_usa@hotmail.com> wrote:
No, my reason- and evidence-based opinion.
LOL ... the evidence that Stevie "Dr Sue" Barrett is a Quack is
overwhelming ... yet you pay homage to his Quackdom.
See Davey lined up with other Quacks and their Crossdressing Flacks
at:
www.humanticsfoundation.com/andysposse.htm#RagtagPosseQuacks
 
 
"Mark Probert"
11/29/2004 10:17:16 AM


"Ilena Rose" <ilena@san.rr.com> in her official capacity as the Dominating
Directorix of the FDA DE-listed, San Diego DE-licensed, and apparently


DE-funct Humantics Foundation, wrote in message
news:iaamq0ta92l5qc46mspkqeg755uf3ass3h@4ax.com...

On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:07:09 -0500, Orac <orac_usa@hotmail.com> wrote:
LOL ... the evidence that Stevie "Dr Sue" Barrett is a Quack is
overwhelming ... yet you pay homage to his Quackdom.
See Davey lined up with other Quacks and their Crossdressing Flacks
at:
www.humanticsfoundation.com/andysposse.htm#RagtagPosseQuacks
You still have it wrong. The Posse is the creation of Peter Bowditch, not
the good Dr. S. Barrett.
http://www.ratbags.com/posse/whoarewe.htm
(correct url).
 
 
Ilena Rose
11/29/2004 9:35:37 AM


On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:17:16 -0500, "Mark Probert" <Mark
Probert@lumbercartel.com> wrote:
The Posse is the creation of Peter Bowditch, not
the good Dr. S. Barrett.
http://www.ratbags.com/posse/whoarewe.htm
Doesn't matter who put it up ... it's a confirmation that you Quacks
and Quack Flacks are a continuation of the Guerrillas Quack Barrett
wrote about earlier ... the Ragtag Posse is just more of the same ...
most of you don disguises frequently to bash opponents and advertise
the Quack sites.
www.humanticsfoundation.com/andysposse.htm#RagtagPosseQuacks
 
 
"Mark Probert"
11/29/2004 11:14:06 AM


"Ilena Rose" <ilena@san.rr.com> in her official capacity as the Dominating
Directorix of the FDA DE-listed, San Diego DE-licensed, and apparently
DE-funct Humantics Foundation, wrote in message
ews:jbgmq01smts67vg6gtbon0qcsju9em0gem@4ax.com...
On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:17:16 -0500, "Mark Probert" <Mark
Probert@lumbercartel.com> wrote:
The Posse is the creation of Peter Bowditch, not
Doesn't matter who put it up ...
Yes it does. Your repeating an error which you have been told about 10,000
times shows how you misrepresent.
it's a confirmation that you Quacks
and Quack Flacks are a continuation of the Guerrillas Quack Barrett
wrote about earlier ...
No, it is nothing of the sort. Only you, in your deluded mind would think
that. Well, maybe jan would too, since she is as deluded as you.
the Ragtag Posse is just more of the same ...
most of you don disguises frequently to bash opponents and advertise
the Quack sites.
www.humanticsfoundation.com/andysposse.htm#RagtagPosseQuacks
Correct URL:
http://www.ratbags.com/posse/whoarewe.htm
BTW, why do you delete the correct URL/ What are you afraid of?
Wait, that's right, you are an intellectual coward.
 
 
Ilena Rose
11/29/2004 10:32:28 AM


On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:14:06 -0500, "Mark Probert" <Mark
Probert@lumbercartel.com> is:
www.humanticsfoundation.com/PropagandistProbert.html
and a Quack RagTag Posse Guerrila:
www.humanticsfoundation.com/andysposse.htm#RagTagPosseGuerrillas
 
 
"Mark Probert"
11/29/2004 11:42:05 AM


"Ilena Rose" <ilena@san.rr.com> in her official capacity as the Dominating
Directorix of the FDA DE-listed, San Diego DE-licensed, and apparently


DE-funct Humantics Foundation, wrote in message
news:3ejmq05i7updl2rn93q5m99bbh7alq6nc4@4ax.com...

On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 11:14:06 -0500, "Mark Probert" <Mark
Probert@lumbercartel.com> is:
www.humanticsfoundation.com/PropagandistProbert.html
Ilena, do you realize that only utter morons, like you,Jan Drew, et al,
actually believe this page?
and a Quack RagTag Posse Guerrila:
www.humanticsfoundation.com/andysposse.htm#RagTagPosseGuerrillas
Again, the intellectual coward, Ilena Rosenthal, posting from her hideaway
in the Costa Rican jungles, snipped the original URL because she is afraid
of posting the truth:
http://www.ratbags.com/posse/whoarewe.htm
 
 
Orac
11/29/2004 1:02:20 PM


In article <iaamq0ta92l5qc46mspkqeg755uf3ass3h@4ax.com>,
Ilena Rose <ilena@san.rr.com> wrote:
On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 19:07:09 -0500, Orac <orac_usa@hotmail.com> wrote:
LOL ... the evidence that Stevie "Dr Sue" Barrett is a Quack is
overwhelming ... yet you pay homage to his Quackdom.
You have it wrong, Ilena. The quacks are the ones who fear and hate Dr.
Barrett.
As well they should.
--
Orac |"I am not interested in trying to compensate
| for your amazing lack of observation."
|
| Orac
 
 
Orac
11/29/2004 1:03:09 PM


In article <D4Hqd.8$hV3.7@fe11.lga>,
"Mark Probert" <Mark Probert@lumbercartel.com> wrote:
"Ilena Rose" <ilena@san.rr.com> in her official capacity as the Dominating
Directorix of the FDA DE-listed, San Diego DE-licensed, and apparently


DE-funct Humantics Foundation, wrote in message
news:iaamq0ta92l5qc46mspkqeg755uf3ass3h@4ax.com...

You still have it wrong. The Posse is the creation of Peter Bowditch, not
the good Dr. S. Barrett.
http://www.ratbags.com/posse/whoarewe.htm
It's irrelevant to Ilena. She sees us all as "quacks," and therefore
lumps us all together in her enemies list without differentiation.
--
Orac |"I am not interested in trying to compensate
| for your amazing lack of observation."
|
| Orac
 
 
Orac
11/29/2004 1:05:17 PM


In article <9kIqd.27$mU4.18@fe11.lga>,
"Mark Probert" <Mark Probert@lumbercartel.com> wrote:
"Ilena Rose" <ilena@san.rr.com> in her official capacity as the Dominating
Directorix of the FDA DE-listed, San Diego DE-licensed, and apparently


DE-funct Humantics Foundation, wrote in message
news:3ejmq05i7updl2rn93q5m99bbh7alq6nc4@4ax.com...

Ilena, do you realize that only utter morons, like you,Jan Drew, et al,
actually believe this page?
Indeed. The page says way more about Ilena than it says about you or
anyone else, and what is says about Ilena is not good at all.
--
Orac |"I am not interested in trying to compensate
| for your amazing lack of observation."
|
| Orac
 
 
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