http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,11457089%255E2862,00.html
Secret DNA tests
Tanya Giles
November 22, 2004
POLICE are secretly taking the DNA of Victorians from genetic material

on coffee cups, cigarettes and clothing.
A Herald Sun investigation has found there are no laws protecting innocent
Victorians whose genetic material had been secretly seized.
DNA is being taken during covert police operations and can be gleaned from
everyday items found at homes, workplaces or social venues.
The samples of hair, skin, sweat and saliva are analysed and compared with
DNA evidence collected at crime scenes.
State Ombudsman George Brouwer has written to Attorney-General Rob Hulls

Police Minister Andre Haermeyer warning that covert police checks are not
regulated under any Victorian law.
Privacy Commissioner Paul Chadwick and legal experts have called on the
Government to bar police from taking covert samples unless they have a

warrant.
Police must apply to court to use such covert procedures as hidden

devices.
When the Herald Sun asked for details of covert DNA sampling under Freedom
of Information laws, Victoria Police said it kept no records of how many
samples were taken from Victorians each year.
Victoria Police also admitted it had no protocols for the covert

of DNA.
The Herald Sun has also learned police have failed to ensure strict
safeguards to prevent the DNA samples being mistakenly registered on the

database for criminals.
Mr Chadwick said the Government needed to move swiftly to protect the

of innocent Victorians.
"When state powers can be exercised covertly and remain secret they can be
abused," Mr Chadwick said.
Under the Crimes Act, police are allowed to take genetic samples from
prisoners and other criminals with their consent or by force to add to the
criminal DNA database.
Covert samples are not governed by the Crimes Act.
A parliamentary inquiry into forensic sampling this year initially
recommended banning police from secretly taking DNA samples from suspects,
but it was dumped from the final report presented to the Government.
A spokesman for Victoria Police said it added only DNA from convicted
persons, nominated suspects and crime scene samples to the criminal DNA
database in accordance with the Crimes Act.
The spokesman said other samples, including covert DNA samples, were not
added. "We are extremely diligent in the way that we administer the DNA
database," he said.
Police Minister Andre Haermeyer said the Government had been advised

sampling was legal.
Herald Sun
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so what if they are? if you have not murders, raped, robbed etc someone
you have nothing to worry about. it is no secret that anything you
disgard
can be picked up. such as getting a fingerprint of a coffee cup you toss
away. why would dna be any different?

if you have not murders, raped, robbed etc someone
you have nothing to worry about.

"EnjoyDialup" <EnjoyDialup_spam@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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I cringe whenever I see this argument used against peoples civil rights.