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And the nonsense continues http://www.sanmateocountytimes.com/Stories/0,1413,87~11271~2551092,00.html Quote Article Last Updated: Monday, November 22, 2004 - 7:01:12 AM PST Person's mind can be fingerprinted New technology can be used for forensic services By Francine Brevetti, BUSINESS WRITER EVIDENCE AS TRUE to your body as fingerprints may be questioned in convicting or exonerating you of a crime. DNA samples may not be available. But there's one unassailable authority that can be relied on to tell for sure whether an indicted person has committed a specific act. The defendant's own brain. Right now a Jimmy Slaughter is waiting to see whether the appellate court in Oklahoma will rule on his guilt or innocence using among other evidence, patterns of his brain waves subjected to a technology called brain fingerprinting. Already, the state of Iowa accepts this technology as evidence in court. Meanwhile, Lawrence A. Farwell is diversifying the uses of his technology into medical research and more commercial purposes. Farwell is the inventor of brain fingerprinting technology. The Brain Fingerprinting Laboratories in Seattle www.brainwavescience.com is creating an alpha version that allows detection of Alzheimer's disease at a very early stage. It's not ready to be tested yet on great numbers of people. "In 30 to 60 days we'll be ready to do some testing and will use labs in New York City and New Jersey," said Ernie Robson, president of president of BFL. "We will detect better and get distinct results to determine a diagnosis of Alzheimer's disease faster than anybody else could." Farwell, who received his doctorate in neuroscience at the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign, said he sees other commercial uses for the technology. "We're also doing a pilot on advertising recognition that ought to be very lucrative," he said. "We are going to be selling to marketers the idea that you can detect whether or not consumers remember their ads both in recollection and in affect (feeling). We'll be doing this jointly with a major advertising company." The business of evaluating adver tising is a multibillion-dollar one, but it's subjective and, despite the focus groups and telemarketers who frequently call consumers to poll them for their opinions, has potential to be inaccurate. "We can provide actual data. People are notorious for not telling objectively what they're thinking," Farwell said. "We are also spinning off our medical business as a standalone and looking for funding separately," he said. For this, we're talking to Bay Area firms as well as others looking for investment. Generally investors are knowledgeable about medicine but not about the forensic world at all." Farwell and his colleagues have published the results of their studies in the Journal of Forensic Sciences, in which they demonstrated with 100 percent accuracy that they could determine who among a study of FBI agents participated in real-life events. Farwell also reported receiving 100 percent accuracy in three studies conducted under contract for three U.S. counterintelligence agencies and one with the U.S. Navy. The technology works by identifying unique patterns of brain stimuli. When a person is presented with a stimulus she recognizes, her brain involuntarily registers a measurable and distinctive signal. In other words, the brain reacts in a definable way only to a stimulus it has already experienced. So if the defendant has never seen a particular barn before or the bloody wrench presented as evidence, the brain simply will not react with the distinctive wave patterns. "The brain doesn't lie," he said. It's important to remember, he added, that the information is stored in the brain of the perpetrator only, not in that of an innocence suspect or a victim. Farwell charges $350 per hour for forensic services using the technology. But what about false memories? In last few years the public has heard a lot about people who have been convinced that they have suffered some trauma early in life. How can the brain distinguish between authentic memories and imagined ones? Farwell said the brain waves will not respond to a stimulus they have not experienced. In 2001 in Iowa, a district court ruled brain fingerprinting tests admissible in court. Terry Harrington was serving a life sentence in Iowa for a 1977 murder. The Farwell test demonstrated that the records stored in the defendant's brain did not match the crime scene but did match his alibi. Eventually his conviction was reversed. There also has been an effort to introduce this technology in a California case that has been unsuccessful, he said. Asked if he thought this methodology could be an invasion of privacy, Farwell countered that those who champion human rights also support freeing innocents from jails. "The only people against this technology might be the polygraph people," he said because they might see it as competition for their own methodology. Francine Brevetti can be reached at (510) 208-6416 or fbrevetti@angnewspapers.com . End Quote What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles and what Special Branch don't want you to know. http://www.nutteing2.freeservers.com/dnapr.htm or nutteingd in a search engine Valid email nutteing@fastmail.....fm (remove 4 of the 5 dots) Ignore any other apparent em address used to post this message - it is defunct due to spam.
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Paul Nutteing wrote:
And the nonsense continues http://www.sanmateocountytimes.com/Stories/0,1413,87~11271~2551092,00.html Quote Article Last Updated: Monday, November 22, 2004 - 7:01:12 AM PST Person's mind can be fingerprinted New technology can be used for forensic services By Francine Brevetti, BUSINESS WRITER EVIDENCE AS TRUE to your body as fingerprints may be questioned in convicting or exonerating you of a crime. DNA samples may not be available. But there's one unassailable authority that can be relied on to tell for sure whether an indicted person has committed a specific act. The defendant's own brain. Right now a Jimmy Slaughter is waiting to see whether the appellate court in Oklahoma will rule on his guilt or innocence using among other evidence, patterns of his brain waves subjected to a technology called brain fingerprinting. Already, the state of Iowa accepts this technology as evidence in court.
Not if they're following the general rules of evidence. Polygraph tests are inadmissible, not because they are unreliable, but because of the self-incrimination clause. Hence this "testimony" would also be inadmissible.
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In article <41A23B99.41FCB00E@sprintmail.com>, Arthur L. Rubin <ronnirubin@sprintmail.com> wrote:
Paul Nutteing wrote: Not if they're following the general rules of evidence. Polygraph tests are inadmissible, not because they are unreliable, but because of the self-incrimination clause. Hence this "testimony" would also be inadmissible.
Wrong! Why are polygraph tests given to witnesses inadmissable? (Hint: because they're unreliable.)
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The technology works by identifying unique patterns of brain stimuli. When a person is presented with a stimulus she recognizes, her brain involuntarily registers a measurable and distinctive signal. In other words, the brain reacts in a definable way only to a stimulus it has already experienced. So if the defendant has never seen a particular barn before or the bloody wrench presented as evidence, the brain simply will not react with the distinctive wave patterns.
Ok, how close does the brain require the image to be to call it "a particular barn"? To a lot of people, especially those who don't see barns very often, barns look pretty much alike. Is this test going to generate false positives because the barn I am shown a photo of looks a lot like the barn my uncle had 30 years ago (and I recognize it as such)? Or, is the test going to generate false negatives because the picture of the barn is in warm weather, but the crime was committed when it was covered with snow? Oh, yes, there's also the problem that even if I deny remembering ever having seen this particular barn, I might have driven by it 20 years ago once when I got lost one and have no (conscious) idea it was the same barn. So how do I defend myself?
"The brain doesn't lie," he said. It's important to remember, he added, that the information is stored in the brain of the perpetrator only, not in that of an innocence suspect or a victim.
Well, a picture of one wrench looks pretty much like a picture of another wrench of the same model, and plenty of people have seen wrenches of that model. Will my brain notice the difference that the wrench in the picture I am shown has distinctive scratches while my father's wrench (which I remember using) doesn't? Perhaps I remember having to put down a favorite dog (although a wrench would be an unlikely tool to use) and seeing it (the wrench) bloody afterwards? Or maybe I just wounded myself with the wrench trying to unhook a particularly stubborn pipe, and bled all over it?
Farwell charges $350 per hour for forensic services using the technology. But what about false memories? In last few years the public has heard a lot about people who have been convinced that they have suffered some trauma early in life. How can the brain distinguish between authentic memories and imagined ones? Farwell said the brain waves will not respond to a stimulus they have not experienced.
Do people "experience" dreams? How do you test that they don't react to what they dreamt? Since YOU don't know exactly what someone dreamt, you will have trouble coming up with something to show them that matches the dream. Gordon L. Burditt
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Why are polygraph tests given to witnesses inadmissable? (Hint: because they're unreliable.)
Another thing that is notoriously unreliable: The testimony of a full-fledged, wide awake and fully conscious, competent, reputable human being, especially about things that happened some years in the past.
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"Arthur L. Rubin" <ronnirubin@sprintmail.com> wrote in=20 Polygraph tests are inadmissible, not because they are unreliable, but = because of the self-incrimination clause. =20 I think lie detectors are not considered to be reliable enough = indicators of truth or falsehood for their evidence to be admitted . On = the other hand camera evidence is acceptable. =20 Yours faithfully, John Aidiniantz www.funbus.org - The Campaign for Battery-Operated Buses www.homepage-link.to/justice/bailiffs=20 message news:41A23B99.41FCB00E@sprintmail.com...
Paul Nutteing wrote: =20 Not if they're following the general rules of evidence. Polygraph tests are inadmissible, not because they are unreliable, but because of the self-incrimination clause. Hence this "testimony" would also be inadmissible.
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