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David Touretzky: Hacker-friendly Cyberterroristic Professor



faxhor@hotmail.com (Faxhor)
11/24/2004 11:59:35 AM


Dishonest Imposter (Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header)
forged my name to post a Newsletter which is normally
originated by David Touretzky.
================================================================
I, Faxhor, do not post from faxhor@hushmail.com. Nor do I use
an Anonymous Remailer to spread disinformation.
My reports include references which the RPF Newsletter does not.
BTW, future forgeries will result in my constant repostings
of the following information until the U.S. Government arrests
this criminal minded, anarchy supporter David Touretzky.
Faxhor@hotmail.com
================================================================
CMU PROFESSOR DAVID TOURETZKY - NO EXPERT ON THE 1ST AMENDMENT
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=c901bee5.0410221734.3e554d5b%40posting.google.com&output=gplain
Carnegie Mellon University Professor David Tourtetzky's
radically twisted interpretation of 'Freedom of Speech'
encourages hatred, crime and terrorism. On the internet,
David Touretzky has reproached minority ethic and religious
groups. On his CMU website, he promotes homemade bomb
instruction and illegal DVD decryption in defiance of the
US Defense Departments funding to CMU to find ways to fight
cyberterrorism.
"To further complicate the issue, President Bush appointed
Carnegie Mellon President Jared Cohon to his 16-member
Homeland Security Advisory Council in December 2003.
Mr. Cohon appears to have a serious conflict of interest
to explain to the American taxpayers. On the one hand,
the university is receiving at least $35.5 million in
government grants to fight cyber terrorism and on the
other hand, one of its professors is providing deadly
bomb information on the university's computer server,
which is at the disposal of any terrorist with Internet
access."
Ethics and Tax Dollars
By: John Middleton
- http://www.cagw.org/site/News2?JServSessionIdr006=7uouc3y5f1.app24a&page=NewsArticle&id=7770&news_iv_ctrl=1329
================================================================
TO PARENTS OF STUDENTS AT CARNEGIE MELLON UNIVERSITY
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&selm=c901bee5.0410262030.74c3f5e1%40posting.google.com
The issue is President Bush's appointment of Carnegie Mellon
President Jared Cohon to the 16-member Homeland Security
Advisory Council in December 2003, CMU'S $35.5 million grant
from the U.S. Federal Government to help fight cyber terrorism,
and CMU Professor David Stuart Tourtetzky's irresponsible and
radically twisted interpretation of 'Freedom of Speech'
condoning cyberterrorism
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StilllovingMarty@myway.com (Barbara Schwarz)
11/24/2004 4:31:22 PM


faxhor@hotmail.com (Faxhor) wrote in message news:<c901bee5.0411241159.6ba21228@posting.google.com>...
Dishonest Imposter (Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header)
forged my name to post a Newsletter which is normally
originated by David Touretzky.
================================================================
I, Faxhor, do not post from faxhor@hushmail.com. Nor do I use
an Anonymous Remailer to spread disinformation.
My reports include references which the RPF Newsletter does not.
BTW, future forgeries will result in my constant repostings
of the following information until the U.S. Government arrests
this criminal minded, anarchy supporter David Touretzky.
Faxhor@hotmail.com
================================================================
CMU PROFESSOR DAVID TOURETZKY - NO EXPERT ON THE 1ST AMENDMENT
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=c901bee5.0410221734.3e554d5b%40posting.google.com&output=gplain
Carnegie Mellon University Professor David Tourtetzky's
radically twisted interpretation of 'Freedom of Speech'
encourages hatred, crime and terrorism. On the internet,
David Touretzky has reproached minority ethic and religious
groups. On his CMU website, he promotes homemade bomb
instruction and illegal DVD decryption in defiance of the
US Defense Departments funding to CMU to find ways to fight
cyberterrorism.
"To further complicate the issue, President Bush appointed
Carnegie Mellon President Jared Cohon to his 16-member
Homeland Security Advisory Council in December 2003.
Mr. Cohon appears to have a serious conflict of interest
to explain to the American taxpayers. On the one hand,
the university is receiving at least $35.5 million in
government grants to fight cyber terrorism and on the
other hand, one of its professors is providing deadly
bomb information on the university's computer server,
which is at the disposal of any terrorist with Internet
access."
Ethics and Tax Dollars
By: John Middleton
- http://www.cagw.org/site/News2?JServSessionIdr006=7uouc3y5f1.app24a&page=NewsArticle&id=7770&news_iv_ctrl=1329
================================================================
TO PARENTS OF STUDENTS AT CARNEGIE MELLON UNIVERSITY
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&selm=c901bee5.0410262030.74c3f5e1%40posting.google.com
The issue is President Bush's appointment of Carnegie Mellon
President Jared Cohon to the 16-member Homeland Security
Advisory Council in December 2003, CMU'S $35.5 million grant
from the U.S. Federal Government to help fight cyber terrorism,
and CMU Professor David Stuart Tourtetzky's irresponsible and
radically twisted interpretation of 'Freedom of Speech'
condoning cyberterrorism
================================================================
Faxhor is certainly not the only one who has problems with what Dave
Touretzky is doing.
Below I copied from a website that was not more accessible after I
informed about it on ARS. And it was not my website. However, I had
four websites with critical information of Dave Touretzky on my site,
and they all disappeared from the net. My last IPS told me that Dave
Touretzky was directly involved!
Why can't he deal with free speech by others?
I also wonder why Faxhor's impostor posts the same stuff that Dave
Touretzky does.
Is that your way to deal with your critics, Dave?
Don't forget to post your favorite stuffed rat Thanksgiving recipe for
your ARS friends and fans, and remember, Faxhor and I aren't.
Barbara Schwarz

CYBERTERRORISM
Then there are a number of people who promote all forms of terrorism
by placing instructions on how to make illegal explosives on the
Internet, some even encouraging their use in schools, against law
enforcement officials or others.
Many of these people mirror or post webpages which were found by them
elsewhere and are simply copied to their own site. While most of these
people do not divulge their identities, a few are proud to do so. Some
attempts to shield themselves legally by stating that they are
publicly revealing the instructions as a First Amendement Issue,
ignoring the moral implications of their actions.
FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO SPREAD TERRORISM
Probably the most infamous is a Carnegie Mellon University professor,
David Touretzky, who is continuing to mirrow a website originally put
up by Sherman Austin, an anarchist who was arrested by the FBI and is
now in prison for putting the bomb instructions on his website.
Although the FBI was able to get Austin to take down his site,
Touretzky still has it on the official Carnegie Mellon University
website.
But not only did this professor put up the site but he even went
further and added his own instructions and other information on atom
bomb construction.
Carnegie Mellon University apparently is very familiar with this site
and defended it as a first amendment expression.
-- WPXI.com - Target 11- CMU Professor's web site causing controversy
-- The Tartan - Author of explosives guides may serve jail time; CMU
professor supports him
Carnegie Mellon University is a major taxpayer-subsidized university
which continues to allow the professor to spread bomb making
information in the university's system to anyone; and the above news
story shows the university is aware of the website.
TAXPAYERS SUPPORTING CYBERTERRORISM
While Touretzky placed "disclaimers" on the university site to not
follow their easy instructions and make the bombs, it doesn't change
the fact that teenagers, terrorist wannabes, and school shooters can
easily find and could use the instructions to make bombs and
protentially kill others or themselves.
A quick search of Yahoo shows very high ranking of Touretzky's and
Carnegie Mellon's bomb making section, meaning those pages have been
linked from more web sites and "clicked-through" more often in
searches for explosive information:
* Fuel fertilizer explosives N. 1 rank
* Drano bomb N. 1
* Molotov cocktail N. 5 rank
* Homemade explosives N. 10
Carnegie Mellon University and government funding bodies that are
supporting this university and Touretzky should be alerted to this
problem.
Public funding should be revoked if the university continues to refuse
to do anything about its bomb promoting professor.
It is of concern and disturbing to see how easy it is for kids (and
anybody else) to find bomb making materials on the web and I thought
this outrage ought to be exposed. One teenager in his basement posting
stuff from a book is scary enough but when a college's website which
clearly shows. edu in the URL is used and bomb making instructions are
given the academic imprimatur, then it is no longer a personal issue.
I think you'll agree this isn't a First Amendment issue but rather a
security issue. And the most disturbing issue is why the university
has apparently refused to shut dwn this do-it-yourself-death site and
taken disciplinary actions against the professor who put it up.
It is your tax money that is funding such a form of cyberterrorism.
-------
 
 
Eady Kaloughgar
12/6/2004 3:39:15 PM


on 24 Nov 2004 16:31:22 -0800 StilllovingMarty@myway.com (Barbara Schwarz)
wrote:
Faxhor is certainly not the only one who has problems with what Dave
Touretzky is doing.
Below I copied from a website that was not more accessible after I
informed about it on ARS. And it was not my website. However, I had
four websites with critical information of Dave Touretzky on my site,
and they all disappeared from the net. My last IPS told me that Dave
Touretzky was directly involved!
Why can't he deal with free speech by others?
Could you give us more information? What was on these pages that you claim
Touretzky forced down? Is your Touretzky-critical page still up somewhere? If
not, why don't you ask other web masters to host them in retaliation and in the
name of "Freedom of Speech" as Touretzky does for the bomb-making pages?
PS - please make sure you post or cross-post to news.admin.net-abuse.misc as I
am only reading from that group.
 
 
henri
12/6/2004 4:51:44 PM


On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 15:39:15 -0600, Eady Kaloughgar <Eady@Kaloughgar.com> wrote:
on 24 Nov 2004 16:31:22 -0800 StilllovingMarty@myway.com (Barbara Schwarz)
wrote:
Could you give us more information?
She or someone else routinely puts up her kook rants on free webhosts.
All these hosts have TOS which prohibits libel, so they are just as routinely
booted. When she (or whoever) puts up her schizophrenic hallucinations
yet again in a pathetic (and illegal) attempt to get around the TOS, her
kook site is yanked again.
The only abusive person is Schwarz herself, a frivolous litigant who has
been barred by the Supreme Court itself from filing further kook suits.
What was on these pages that you claim
Touretzky forced down? Is your Touretzky-critical page still up somewhere? If
not, why don't you ask other web masters to host them in retaliation and in the
name of "Freedom of Speech" as Touretzky does for the bomb-making pages?
The only thing on the kookpages are the same crazy ramblings she posts
to Usenet from a public library, where she sits smelling up the place like the
crazy bag lady she is, muttering and cursing to herself, according to
observers.
Here's the Supreme Court ruling forbidding this lunatic from further
frivolous filings. It arose from yet another of her endless lawsuits
claiming she is persecuted by an imaginary Nazi conspiracy.
No court can give her relief. The only relief she will ever have from
her psychosis is to be institutionalized and medicated by psychiatrists.
http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/98-7771.ZPC.html
Per Curiam
SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES
ON MOTIONS FOR LEAVE TO PROCEED IN FORMA PAUPERIS
Nos. 98-7771 and 98-7782. Decided March 8, 1999
Per Curiam.
Pro se petitioner Schwarz seeks leave to proceed in forma pauperis under
Rule 39 of this Court. We deny this request as frivolous pursuant to Rule 39.8.
Schwarz is allowed until March 29, 1999, within which to pay the docketing fee
required by Rule 38 and to submit her petitions in compliance with this Courts
Rule 33.1. We also direct the Clerk not to accept any further petitions for
certiorari from Schwarz in noncriminal matters unless she pays the docketing fee
required by Rule 38 and submits her petition in compliance with Rule 33.1
Schwarz has repeatedly abused this Courts certiorari process. On December
14, 1998, we invoked Rule 39.8 to deny Schwarz in forma pauperis status with
respect to four petitions for certiorari. See Schwarz v. Federal Bureau of
Investigation, 525 U.S. ___ (1998); Schwarz v. National Institute of
Corrections, 525 U.S. ___ (1998); Schwarz v. United States Parole Commn, 525
U.S. ___ (1998); Schwarz v. National Archives and Records Administration, 525
U.S. ___ (1998). Before that time, Schwarz had filed 29 petitions for
certiorari, all of which were both patently frivolous and had been denied
without recorded dissent. The instant petitions for certiorari thus constitute
Schwarzs 34th and 35th frivolous filings with this Court.
We enter the order barring prospective filings for the reasons discussed in
Martin v. District of Columbia Court of Appeals, 506 U.S. 1 (1992) (per curiam).
Schwarzs abuse of the writ of certiorari has been in noncriminal cases, and we
limit our sanction accordingly. The order therefore will not prevent Schwarz
from petitioning to challenge criminal sanctions which might be imposed on her.
Similarly, because Schwarz has not abused this Courts extraordinary writs
procedures, the order will not prevent her from filing nonfrivolous petitions
for extraordinary writs. The order will, however, allow this Court to devote its
limited resources to the claims of petitioners who have not abused our
certiorari process.
It is so ordered.
Justice Stevens, dissenting.
For reasons previously stated, see Martin v. District of Columbia Court of
Appeals, 506 U.S. 1, 4 (1992) (Stevens, J., dissenting), and cases cited, I
respectfully dissent.
 
 
StilllovingMarty@myway.com
12/7/2004 12:35:02 PM


ook who is libeling you and me again, Faxhor, it is Rob Clark, aka
Henri, a crazy and criminal one!
Barbara Schwarz
ROBERT W. CLARK
Those who spread hatred via the internet, upon investigation, are often
found to have two qualities in common: criminal backgrounds and a
tendency to display signs of mental or emotional instability.
Robert Clark in 1995
Robert W. Clark, of York, Pennsylvania, has a considerable history of
instigating hatred on the Internet. On February 19th, 1995, writing
under the pseudonym of "Henry," (or "Henri") Clark posted a message
urging an individual to firebomb his local Church of Scientology.
"Firebomb it, demolish it with a rented crane and ball, firebomb it
again and then salt the ground so that nothing will ever grow there
again. And then if you're up for it, firebomb it again."
On April 12, 1995, Clark posted a similar message to an anti-religious
newsgroup suggesting they also blow up Churches of Scientology.
ROBERT W. CLARK (continued)
In a newsgroup posting of February 20, 1995, Clark admits to a history
of destructive behavior.
"...I realized that I was surrounded by enemies in kindergarten, that I
could read and they couldn't, etc. I was surrounded by Visigoths,
Barbarians, the worst of all things, idiots, ordinary people. How did I
respond? Severely enough that they sent me to shrinks for years
afterward."
Clark's claim of early psychiatric treatment appears to have done him
little good. In later years his destructive behavior resulted in
criminal charges and arrests.
In 1990, Clark and his roommate were arrested for hacking into
Carnegie-Mellon University computers. The Computer Emergency Response
Team at Carnegie-Mellon, in cooperation with law enforcement,
investigated this illegal computer usage when it was discovered that
unknown individuals were illegally accessing university computer
accounts and using those accounts to unlawfully access other computer
systems. Clark was caught in the act of destroying a file on a system
he had illegally accessed.
ROBERT W. CLARK (continued)
It was also discovered that Clark had illegally accessed computer
systems at Los Alamos National Laboratory. He was charged with multiple
counts of unlawful computer usage and theft of service. He was made to
pay $750 in reparations to the university and was placed in an
Accelerated Rehabilitative Disposition Program for two years.
Clark's life appears to have continued on a downhill slide. In the
mid-1990's, he became increasingly involved with anti-religious
extremists, posting to their internet newsgroup, and participating in
hate marches designed to intimidate and harass Church parishioners and
staff. Postings indicate that circa 1995 he became unemployed and
homeless, moving from place to place, relying on the charity of
like-minded people he had met over the Internet.
On September 20, 1996, Clark was again arrested in Pennsylvania, this
time for speeding and driving under the influence of alcohol. Although
Clark denied he had been drinking, a blood test revealed he had lied;
his blood alcohol level was well above the legal limit.
ROBERT W. CLARK (continued)
On a newsgroup frequented by individuals who discuss their emotional
problems, Clark revealed insights into his behaviour that could lead
him to be characterized as mentally disturbed. On February 20th, 1995,
one day after Clark issued his first firebomb terrorist threat against
the church, he wrote:
"The moment anyone even approaches criticism of me, I immediately leap
for the jugular. I have those reflexes. I accept criticism as
immediately valid and true and go on to slamming whoever slammed me.
.... Not by defending myself, but by attacking, a habit which the net
encourages. Some people immediately start defending themselves. This is
a bad move. This lets them know _where_ they hurt you. You f***ers do
not know where to hurt me. You know enough to call me a 'faggot' but
I'd just laugh at that. You could call me a 'whiny ex-junkie' but I'd
laugh at that, too. And regardless of where you hit me I'd respond in
the same way--full frontal assault. So you wouldn't be able to tell.
.... you'd know that I get _real_ nasty and real smart and real vicious,
enough to make you look like an utter fool in front of everyone and on
usenet that's the supreme punishment."
ROBERT W. CLARK (continued)
As his acts of hatred against Scientologists increased, apparently so
did his self-loathing. In one posting of March 20, 1995, he stated:
"Yeah, sometimes I'm so disgusted with myself and everything else that
the only sensible thing seems to be to take a razor blade and slash the
#@($ out of myself until the sight of blood satisfies me. And sometimes
that's not enough. Sometimes I heat up the razor blade over a Bic and
burn myself with the f***er, just to drown out the rest of the world in
blinding pain."
In a second posting of the same date, Clark wrote:
"I'm such an absolute [vulgarity deleted] nothing, a total [vulgarity
deleted] fraud. ... I destroy everything I touch with my lies, I've
murdered every one of my friends, I've killed everything I hate myself.
"...I ought to just go into work and shoot everyone there. Even the
people I like. Hell, I'd be doing them a favor. I can even leave a
note, something so insane and confused it'd make the news everywhere."
Clark has participated in hate demonstrations with Henson and maintains
a website filled with propaganda targeted, not just at the Church, but
at the law enforcement officials who have acted to arrest a fugitive
who had illegally entered Canada and was perceived as extremely
dangerous. Using insulting and foul language, he heavily attacked the
District Attorney who prosecuted Henson, posting on September 13, 2000,
the following statement:
"Now now now ... just because the DA is a criminally insane idiot who
ought to be in prison and brutally sodomized by a gang of Nazi
Lowriders doesn't mean there's any call for talk like that."
The above posting demonstrates not only Clark's disrespect for law
enforcement, but also his willful disregard for the law.
ROBERT W. CLARK (continued)
Recent newsgroup postings show his continuing attitude toward law
enforcement.
29 Jan 2002 - His comments about the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force:
'Remember, if you disagree with their definition of "terrorist," that
means YOU, too, are ALSO a "terrorist." "Terrorist" is just a word
these jackbooted Nazi thugs use that means "people who disagree with
us." '
31 Jan 2002 - His comments regarding U.S. Attorney General John
Ashcroft:
"Ashcroft is a Nazi who belongs in a prison. It should be against the
law to be so f***ing stupid."
"Remember that Ashcroft was only available to be put in a Cabinet
position because he had lost an election to a corpse."
ROBERT W. CLARK (continued)
On September 9, 1995, while participating in a newsgroup discussion
about "debate" tactics on the internet, Clark clearly, and perhaps
foolishly, laid out the strategy he uses to whip up hatred: feeding
slanderous lies to gullible people on the internet. Here, in his own
words, are the tactics Clark has been using for years against the
Church of Scientology, law enforcement officials, and, for that matter,
anyone he dislikes or hates:
"There are all kinds of rhetorical kicks-in-the-groin that you can get
awa
 
 
Eady Kaloughgar
12/7/2004 4:42:31 PM


Where is the answer from Barbara Schwarz herself? Should I conclude that she is
not interested to make her case but is happy enough to engage in empty
allegations?
Here is your chance, Barbara. Why don't you answer?
on Mon, 06 Dec 2004 15:39:15 -0600 Eady Kaloughgar <Eady@Kaloughgar.com> wrote:
on 24 Nov 2004 16:31:22 -0800 StilllovingMarty@myway.com (Barbara Schwarz)
wrote:
Could you give us more information? What was on these pages that you claim
Touretzky forced down? Is your Touretzky-critical page still up somewhere? If
not, why don't you ask other web masters to host them in retaliation and in the
name of "Freedom of Speech" as Touretzky does for the bomb-making pages?
PS - please make sure you post or cross-post to news.admin.net-abuse.misc as I
am only reading from that group.
 
 
StilllovingMarty@myway.com
12/7/2004 4:05:21 PM


You are one impatient fellow, Eady. I can't post 24-7, just give me a
bit time, will you?
Here is a website that disappeared from the net which was not from me.
Read below and conclude yourself who would have interest in removing
that website.
And I will also post the content of my website, in a minute, Eady, just
a minute...
Barbara Schwarz
CYBERTERRORISM
Then there are a number of people who promote all forms of terrorism by
placing instructions on how to make illegal explosives on the Internet,
some even encouraging their use in schools, against law enforcement
officials or others.
Many of these people mirror or post webpages which were found by them
elsewhere and are simply copied to their own site. While most of these
people do not divulge their identities, a few are proud to do so. Some
attempts to shield themselves legally by stating that they are publicly
revealing the instructions as a First Amendement Issue, ignoring the
moral implications of their actions.
FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO SPREAD TERRORISM
Probably the most infamous is a Carnegie Mellon University professor,
David Touretzky, who is continuing to mirrow a website originally put
up by Sherman Austin, an anarchist who was arrested by the FBI and is
now in prison for putting the bomb instructions on his website.
Although the FBI was able to get Austin to take down his site,
Touretzky still has it on the official Carnegie Mellon University
website.
But not only did this professor put up the site but he even went
further and added his own instructions and other information on atom
bomb construction.
Carnegie Mellon University apparently is very familiar with this site
and defended it as a first amendment expression.
-- WPXI.com - Target 11- CMU Professor's web site causing controversy
-- The Tartan - Author of explosives guides may serve jail time; CMU
professor supports him
Carnegie Mellon University is a major taxpayer-subsidized university
which continues to allow the professor to spread bomb making
information in the university's system to anyone; and the above news
story shows the university is aware of the website.
TAXPAYERS SUPPORTING CYBERTERRORISM
While Touretzky placed "disclaimers" on the university site to not
follow their easy instructions and make the bombs, it doesn't change
the fact that teenagers, terrorist wannabes, and school shooters can
easily find and could use the instructions to make bombs and
protentially kill others or themselves.
A quick search of Yahoo shows very high ranking of Touretzky's and
Carnegie Mellon's bomb making section, meaning those pages have been
linked from more web sites and "clicked-through" more often in searches
for explosive information:
* Fuel fertilizer explosives N. 1 rank
* Drano bomb N. 1
* Molotov cocktail N. 5 rank
* Homemade explosives N. 10
Carnegie Mellon University and government funding bodies that are
supporting this university and Touretzky should be alerted to this
problem.
Public funding should be revoked if the university continues to refuse
to do anything about its bomb promoting professor.
It is of concern and disturbing to see how easy it is for kids (and
anybody else) to find bomb making materials on the web and I thought
this outrage ought to be exposed. One teenager in his basement posting
stuff from a book is scary enough but when a college's website which
clearly shows. edu in the URL is used and bomb making instructions are
given the academic imprimatur, then it is no longer a personal issue.
I think you'll agree this isn't a First Amendment issue but rather a
security issue. And the most disturbing issue is why the university has
apparently refused to shut dwn this do-it-yourself-death site and taken
disciplinary actions against the professor who put it up.
It is your tax money that is funding such a form of cyberterrorism.
-------
 
 
StilllovingMarty@myway.com
12/7/2004 4:12:05 PM


Eady Kaloughgar wrote:
on 24 Nov 2004 16:31:22 -0800 StilllovingMarty@myway.com (Barbara
Schwarz)
wrote:
Could you give us more information? What was on these pages that you
claim
Touretzky forced down? Is your Touretzky-critical page still up
somewhere? If
not, why don't you ask other web masters to host them in retaliation
and in the
name of "Freedom of Speech" as Touretzky does for the bomb-making
pages?
PS - please make sure you post or cross-post to
news.admin.net-abuse.misc as I
am only reading from that group.
Alright, Eady, here it is. That was the content of four of my websites,
and all were gone from the net immediately after I announced on
alt.religion.scientology that I have that website. My last ISP told me
that Dave Touretzky himself contacted him about my site and wanted it
gone.
I don't have much money at the moment, Eady, I have mainly to go with
free web space and Dave Touretzky and his lawless friends just throw
around the CMU name and that is usually the end of my free speech.
WARNING
To parents of students at Carnegie Mellon University
If you are the parent of a student who attends Carnegie Mellon
University, this notice is posted to help you.
David Touretzky is a research scientist at Carnegie Mellon University.
He teaches some of your children. He claims to be an "educator." For
this reason you should be made aware of the kind of person he is.
David Touretzky owns a website (hosted by the university) that
publishes instructions on how to build bombs. One of these bomb
instructions encourages people to throw these bombs into police cars.
This website is a mirror of an illegal site that was removed by the
FBI after its original creator was arrested. David Touretzky says he
created the mirror as a matter of "free speech." He claims no
responsibility for what his students or other children surfing the net
might do with these instructions. Neither does Carnegie Mellon
University. They allow Touretzky to use the University's computer
server to post this website, on your tax dollar or your tuition fees.
They also appear to have no care for its dangerous content and the
students who might feel encouraged to use them out of false admiration
for their "teacher."
This is not an innocent lack of judgment by Touretzky for, as they
say, where there is smoke there is fire, and Touretzky is involved in
other dangerous and perverted activities. In private and during his
work time he associates with extremists on the internet who attack and
harass religions and ethnic groups. Some of these extremists post
death threats against the people they harass. Touretzky regularly
associates with these people and he supports and encourages their
activities.
Touretzky has perversions that the parents of the students he teaches
should be informed about. He is a customer of sex shops and purchases
sexual implements. The invoice posted on this website as evidence of
this activity shows that Touretzky uses his University office phone
number for this sex shop to contact him. You can compare the phone
number listed in the invoice - 412 268-7561- with the phone number
listed in the university directory which goes to David Touretzky,
www.ri.cmu.edu/people/touretzky_david.htm. You can also find this
connection by searching in Google for "412 268-7561" and "Touretzky".
I had challenged some members of an extremist group on the internet of
which Touretzky is a part but had not really paid much attention to
him. Then I received the evidence presented here, likely by Touretzky
himself as some strange form of harassment. Touretzky supports people
who sexually harass women as can be seen on his website. He also has
pornographic photographs on his website - right there for children to
see - in which he disgraces property belonging to a religion. At that
point I began to research what kind of man Touretzky is and openly
challenged him about his dangerous activities on the internet.
Why would Touretzky encourage extremists and provide instructions on
how to build explosives if he does not have some secret perverted wish
to see others blown to pieces? Why would a teacher of impressionable
students be involved in this? Most important, why does the University
knowingly allow this man to use their server to post information that
is against the law and encourages terrorism? Perhaps for the same
reason they allow Touretzky to use his office phone to order sex toys.
They obviously do not care about their students or the kind of people
who are teaching them or about what their students are being taught.
As an example here are some of the extremists Touretzky calls his
friends:
Robert Clark was arrested in 1990 for hacking into Los Alamos National
Laboratory and has posted bomb threats on the internet.
Zenon Panoussis is hosting websites containing bomb-making
instructions and was a member of the Anti-Olympic Committee which
supported bombings to sabotage the 2004 Olympics. He was arrested in
1999 for verbally assaulting a police officer.
David Rice suggested in a posting to kill members of the FBI.
Frederic Rice has threatened governmental officials over the Internet.
He also hosts a site where he gives tips on how to kill bikers.
Andreas Heldal-Lund hosts a website with a message board that contains
death threats.
Arnie Lerma is a supporter of the Neo Nazis movement founded by Willis
Carto and is on the Board of Policy of Liberty Lobby, an anti-semitic
organization founded by Carto. He is also associated with the Utopian
Anarchist Party, that promotes the overthrowing of the U.S.
government, the killing of police officers and their website teaches
how to build bombs. Lerma is close to William White, spokesperson of
UAP who was arrested and convicted of battery and carrying a concealed
weapons.
These are the people that Touretzky associates with, people who
encourage terrorism. Touretzky's website also encourages terrorism no
matter his claims of innocence and "free speech". He knows that there
are people out there that want to know how to make explosives and who
will use them against innocent victims. Even if he claims no
responsibility, he is totally responsible for whatever he puts in
people's heads and the terrible results. Same for the Carnegie Mellon
University that sponsors this man and who lets him use facilities that
are sponsored by tax payers money.
Carnegie Mellon University is playing a dangerous game allowing David
Touretzky to continue to work at their university. How can a man with
such a warped mind be allowed to shape the minds of young students?
What if one of these kids uses the bomb instructions that Touretzky
put on the web to harm others?
Do you parents want to wait to find out how tragic the result will be
and if your child will be involved?
I encourage you to start asking questions n
 
 
StilllovingMarty@myway.com
12/7/2004 4:24:33 PM


And read below too, Eady. Dave Touretzky never denied having mailed
that porn harassment letter to me. I think he feels like the Robin Hood
of porn and bomb instructions. He is defended by lawless and crazy
folks as Rob Clark aka Henri.
I have posted below a while ago. I can't access
Alt.Binaries.Scientology. When do you want to see the porn envelope, I
have to ask my friend to post it once more on ABS.
Eady, do you have a website on which you can place my writings about
Dave? I surely would appreciate it and I bet Dave does too. ;)
Barbara Schwarz
Since David Touretzky continuously oppresses my free speech by having
my website taken down because I have been exposing the truth about his
sexual perversions,
I have re-typed the invoice that was sent to me. Why is the US
government giving grants to this pervert who is using Carnegie Mellon
University's phone number to order dildos? I have also asked a friend
to post the invoice to an
alt.binaries* newsgroup.
Below is how the real invoice looks., Note the phone number (412)
268-7561, which goes straight to Touretzky's office (not via his
secretary) at Carnegie Mellon University:
INVOICE:
JT's Page Date Invoice. No.
Stockroom 1 12/05/02 125888A
All the Best in Sexual Technology
2140 Hyperion Ave. Los Angeles, CA 90027
Phone: (800) 755-8697 or (323) 666-2121
Fax: (800) 357-8697 or (323) 913-59736
BILL TO SHIP TO
David Touretzky
800 Nordeen Drive
West Mifflin, PA 15122
Customer No. Sales I.D. Reference # Media Code Terms
99154 /CJ / xxxxxxxx4235 DISCOVERER
Ordered by Warehouse Phone Number Total Wt. Zone Packages Ship
(412) 268-7561 0.3. Lbs 0 1 PPI
Message: Happy Holydays from the staff at
www.stockroom.com
City B/O Shipped Items # Description Unit Price Disc Extension
1 0 1 A810 Hot Rod-Sport, Red 27.000 -- 27.00
1 0 1 B087 Silk, Blue Pearl, Small 10.000 -- 10.00
1 0 1 CAT JT's Stockroom Catalog 0.000 -- 0.00
MERCHANDISE INVOICE TOTAL $ 37.00
SHIPPING & HANDLING $ 8.00
INVOICE TOTAL $ 45.00
CR. CARD: DI.APPR:005069 $ -45.00
--------------------------------------------------------
What are the federal employees thinking by awarding such a man who
said himself that he is already overpaid and has also bomb
instructions on his website?
Barbara Schwarz
 
 
StilllovingMarty@myway.com
12/7/2004 4:24:43 PM


And read below too, Eady. Dave Touretzky never denied having mailed
that porn harassment letter to me. I think he feels like the Robin Hood
of porn and bomb instructions. He is defended by lawless and crazy
folks as Rob Clark aka Henri.
I have posted below a while ago. I can't access
Alt.Binaries.Scientology. When do you want to see the porn envelope, I
have to ask my friend to post it once more on ABS.
Eady, do you have a website on which you can place my writings about
Dave? I surely would appreciate it and I bet Dave does too. ;)
Barbara Schwarz
Since David Touretzky continuously oppresses my free speech by having
my website taken down because I have been exposing the truth about his
sexual perversions,
I have re-typed the invoice that was sent to me. Why is the US
government giving grants to this pervert who is using Carnegie Mellon
University's phone number to order dildos? I have also asked a friend
to post the invoice to an
alt.binaries* newsgroup.
Below is how the real invoice looks., Note the phone number (412)
268-7561, which goes straight to Touretzky's office (not via his
secretary) at Carnegie Mellon University:
INVOICE:
JT's Page Date Invoice. No.
Stockroom 1 12/05/02 125888A
All the Best in Sexual Technology
2140 Hyperion Ave. Los Angeles, CA 90027
Phone: (800) 755-8697 or (323) 666-2121
Fax: (800) 357-8697 or (323) 913-59736
BILL TO SHIP TO
David Touretzky
800 Nordeen Drive
West Mifflin, PA 15122
Customer No. Sales I.D. Reference # Media Code Terms
99154 /CJ / xxxxxxxx4235 DISCOVERER
Ordered by Warehouse Phone Number Total Wt. Zone Packages Ship
(412) 268-7561 0.3. Lbs 0 1 PPI
Message: Happy Holydays from the staff at
www.stockroom.com
City B/O Shipped Items # Description Unit Price Disc Extension
1 0 1 A810 Hot Rod-Sport, Red 27.000 -- 27.00
1 0 1 B087 Silk, Blue Pearl, Small 10.000 -- 10.00
1 0 1 CAT JT's Stockroom Catalog 0.000 -- 0.00
MERCHANDISE INVOICE TOTAL $ 37.00
SHIPPING & HANDLING $ 8.00
INVOICE TOTAL $ 45.00
CR. CARD: DI.APPR:005069 $ -45.00
--------------------------------------------------------
What are the federal employees thinking by awarding such a man who
said himself that he is already overpaid and has also bomb
instructions on his website?
Barbara Schwarz
 
 
"Fax Hor"
12/7/2004 11:17:30 PM


Barbara Schwarz: Faxhor is certainly not the only one who has
problems with what Dave Touretzky is doing.
Below I copied from a website that was not
more accessible after I informed about it on
ARS. And it was not my website. However, I
had four websites with critical information
of Dave Touretzky on my site, and they all
disappeared from the net. My last IPS told me
that Dave Touretzky was directly involved!
Why can't he deal with free speech by others?
Eady Kaloughgar: Could you give us more information?
Barbara, I don't know who's website it is, but one of those
"About David Touretzky" websites is still online.
About Touretzky and his Indefinite Online Web Class called:
ONLINE BOMB CONSTRUCTION INTRUCTIONAL COURSE 101
TUTORED BY DAVID TOURETZKY VIA WEBSITE, NO CLASS SCHEDULE
NOTE: BOMBS ONLY HAVE SEVERAL INTENDED USES ALL OF WHICH ARE
DESTRUCTIVE. INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO PRODUCE SUCH DEVICES
ALSO ONLY HAVE ONE INTENDED USE: TO PRODUCE THOSE DEVICES
TO BE USED FOR THEIR INTENDED USE.
Their should not even be any question about intent.
Now, my question is if someone(s) in U.S Federal Law
Enforcement is discriminating?
An Afro-American (Sherman Austin) went to jail for promoting
bomb instructions. David Touretzky who is a white CMU
professor, isn't prosecuted even though his website promotes
bomb instructions to this very day. Touretzky associates with
the extremists in ARS who have made numerous bomb threats and
death threats. Apparently Touretzky's intention is to stand
ground for "1st Amendment rights," of which Touretzky is not
an expert.
Note: David Touretzky is a professor in computer science and
involved with artificial intelligence research projects
using rats and a 'rat robot.' Touretzky's promotion of
bomb instruction on his personal CMU account is a
personal choice and has nothing to do with any authority
he may have, if any, at CMU. Even a U.S. Federal Judge
has stated that Touretzky is not an expert on "The 1st
Amendment." He also is not an official on explosives,
or is he secretly an explosives expert?
In the U.S., anyone can go into a crowded theatre and yell
"FIRE" (which is against the law) and just claim that he was
fighting for first amendment rights. But, try it and you will
find out that no one listens to your argument about freedom of
speech while you are taken down to the local police station,
then charged, tried and convicted. The same should be with
bomb instruction on the web.
What is worse, promoting bomb instruction which potentially
can create such an effect as the Oklahoma Federal Building
OR publicly announcing a fire in a crowded theatre which may
only cause a dozen or so people to be trampled?
Is this another "failure of imagination?"
IMAGINE THIS SCENARIO: A CMU Student is not happy with his
studies, his life, his girlfriend and also does a lot of
drugs and additionally isn't happy with his government (the
US Govt). He knows about David's website, so he makes some
fertilizer bombs and ends up destroying a few buildings on campus
killing several hundred...
That scenario is not "acceptable" but must be considered.
Will the U.S. Law Enforcement wait until it is too late.
They did with the events of Sept. 11, 2001.
Faxhor@hotmail.com
================================================================
DAVID TOURETZKY THE RACIST
"She is the former ambassador to Micronesia! and she's black.
I should have known. What are all the really st00000pid
congresswomen black?" - David Touretzky
================================================================
CMU PROFESSOR DAVID TOURETZKY - NO EXPERT ON THE 1ST AMENDMENT
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=c901bee5.0410221734.3e554d5b%40posting.google.com&output=gplain
================================================================
CMU PRESIDENT JARED COHON:
HOMELAND SECURITY ADVISORY COUNCIL MEMBER
"To further complicate the issue, President Bush appointed
Carnegie Mellon President Jared Cohon to his 16-member
Homeland Security Advisory Council in December 2003.
Mr. Cohon appears to have a serious conflict of interest
to explain to the American taxpayers. On the one hand,
the university is receiving at least $35.5 million in
government grants to fight cyber terrorism and on the
other hand, one of its professors is providing deadly
bomb information on the university's computer server,
which is at the disposal of any terrorist with Internet
access."
Ethics and Tax Dollars
By: John Middleton
-http://www.cagw.org/site/News2?JServSessionIdr006=7uouc3y5f1.app24a&page=NewsArticle&id=7770&news_iv_ctrl=1329
================================================================
TO PARENTS OF STUDENTS AT CARNEGIE MELLON UNIVERSITY
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&selm=c901bee5.0410262030.74c3f5e1%40posting.google.com
================================================================
 
 
StilllovingMarty@myway.com
12/8/2004 9:38:22 AM


Fax Hor wrote:
Barbara Schwarz: Faxhor is certainly not the only one who has
problems with what Dave Touretzky is doing.
Below I copied from a website that was not
more accessible after I informed about it on
ARS. And it was not my website. However, I
had four websites with critical information
of Dave Touretzky on my site, and they all
disappeared from the net. My last IPS told me
that Dave Touretzky was directly involved!
Why can't he deal with free speech by others?
Eady Kaloughgar: Could you give us more information?
Barbara, I don't know who's website it is, but one of those
"About David Touretzky" websites is still online.
Oh, Eady, what have you done posting in the newsgroups about it?! As
soon as Dave Touretzky and his friends hear that the site is again up,
it will be gone. Bet on it. It will be the 5th website with that
information being hi-jacked! Lets hope Dave Touretzky is too busy
wrapping x-mas parcels for his rats and that he will not notice your
posting.
Barbara Schwarz
About Touretzky and his Indefinite Online Web Class called:
ONLINE BOMB CONSTRUCTION INTRUCTIONAL COURSE 101
TUTORED BY DAVID TOURETZKY VIA WEBSITE, NO CLASS SCHEDULE
NOTE: BOMBS ONLY HAVE SEVERAL INTENDED USES ALL OF WHICH ARE
DESTRUCTIVE. INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO PRODUCE SUCH DEVICES
ALSO ONLY HAVE ONE INTENDED USE: TO PRODUCE THOSE DEVICES
TO BE USED FOR THEIR INTENDED USE.
Their should not even be any question about intent.
Now, my question is if someone(s) in U.S Federal Law
Enforcement is discriminating?
An Afro-American (Sherman Austin) went to jail for promoting
bomb instructions. David Touretzky who is a white CMU
professor, isn't prosecuted even though his website promotes
bomb instructions to this very day. Touretzky associates with
the extremists in ARS who have made numerous bomb threats and
death threats. Apparently Touretzky's intention is to stand
ground for "1st Amendment rights," of which Touretzky is not
an expert.
Note: David Touretzky is a professor in computer science and
involved with artificial intelligence research projects
using rats and a 'rat robot.' Touretzky's promotion of
bomb instruction on his personal CMU account is a
personal choice and has nothing to do with any authority
he may have, if any, at CMU. Even a U.S. Federal Judge
has stated that Touretzky is not an expert on "The 1st
Amendment." He also is not an official on explosives,
or is he secretly an explosives expert?
In the U.S., anyone can go into a crowded theatre and yell
"FIRE" (which is against the law) and just claim that he was
fighting for first amendment rights. But, try it and you will
find out that no one listens to your argument about freedom of
speech while you are taken down to the local police station,
then charged, tried and convicted. The same should be with
bomb instruction on the web.
What is worse, promoting bomb instruction which potentially
can create such an effect as the Oklahoma Federal Building
OR publicly announcing a fire in a crowded theatre which may
only cause a dozen or so people to be trampled?
Is this another "failure of imagination?"
IMAGINE THIS SCENARIO: A CMU Student is not happy with his
studies, his life, his girlfriend and also does a lot of
drugs and additionally isn't happy with his government (the
US Govt). He knows about David's website, so he makes some
fertilizer bombs and ends up destroying a few buildings on campus
killing several hundred...
That scenario is not "acceptable" but must be considered.
Will the U.S. Law Enforcement wait until it is too late.
They did with the events of Sept. 11, 2001.
Faxhor@hotmail.com
================================================================
DAVID TOURETZKY THE RACIST
"She is the former ambassador to Micronesia! and she's black.
I should have known. What are all the really st00000pid
congresswomen black?" - David Touretzky
================================================================
CMU PROFESSOR DAVID TOURETZKY - NO EXPERT ON THE 1ST AMENDMENT
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=c901bee5.0410221734.3e554d5b%40posting.google.com&output=gplain
================================================================
CMU PRESIDENT JARED COHON:
HOMELAND SECURITY ADVISORY COUNCIL MEMBER
"To further complicate the issue, President Bush appointed
Carnegie Mellon President Jared Cohon to his 16-member
Homeland Security Advisory Council in December 2003.
Mr. Cohon appears to have a serious conflict of interest
to explain to the American taxpayers. On the one hand,
the university is receiving at least $35.5 million in
government grants to fight cyber terrorism and on the
other hand, one of its professors is providing deadly
bomb information on the university's computer server,
which is at the disposal of any terrorist with Internet
access."
Ethics and Tax Dollars
By: John Middleton
-
http://www.cagw.org/site/News2?JServSessionIdr006=7uouc3y5f1.app24a&page=NewsArticle&id=7770&news_iv_ctrl=1329
================================================================
TO PARENTS OF STUDENTS AT CARNEGIE MELLON UNIVERSITY
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&selm=c901bee5.0410262030.74c3f5e1%40posting.google.com
================================================================
 
 
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