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I made a web site to inform others about my concerns.
It is not unbiased or objective, and it never claimed it was."
- Andreas Heldal-Lund
Andreas Heldal-Lund's biased and un-objective "concerns" are
based on propaganda, lies, distorted information, unsolved cases
and products of "revisionism" written by people such as one of
Willis Carto's writers Arnie Lerma. - Faxhor
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"Heldal-Lund is a member of the Heathen Society of Norway,
a religious hate group dedicated to the destruction of
all organized religion, particularly Christianity."
- Religious Freedom Watch Organization
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Andreas: Come to think of it, no racists or murderers have ever
done anything to me personally... should I reconsider
what I have against them?
Yeah right, that makes a bunch of sense.
Faxhor: The Heathen forgot to mention anti-religious bigots
who make death threats.
Andreas: You forgot to add that you promote lies about things
and persons you know absolutely nothing about.
I know me very well and I know just as well that what
you claim above are lies. But if it gives you meaning
and makes you tick to lie... ;)
Where did I lie?
First of all I never called Andreas the anti-religious bigot
who makes death threats. I said that he forgot to mention them
in his "no racists or murderers" philosophy. Why is Andreas
defending?
Secondly, I do not CLAIM that Andreas is a Heathen and a member
of the Heathen Society of Norway. Andreas "claims" it himself
on his website:
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http://home.online.no/~heldal/me.html
ABOUT ANDREAS
"Proud member of Hedningsamfunnet
(The Norwegian Society of Heathens) . . ."
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Is it true that the Heathen Society seeks to eliminate all
organized religion, specifically the Christian religion?
Here is one definition of HEATHEN that I believe fits Andreas.
One who is regarded as irreligious, uncivilized, or unenlightened.
Maybe he is "civilized" but he definitely is irreligious and
unenlightened.
I'll give you some quotes that he has selected for his website:
"Humanity's first sin was faith; the first virtue was doubt."
"There is a God, but He drinks"
http://home.online.no/~heldal/journal.html
How can anyone trust any "concerns" evaluated by faulty logic
from a HEATHEN in regards to spiritual philosophy and organization.
Andreas: It doesn't bother me. I link to that DA page filled
with lies about me and use every opportunity to show
all I meet it to show how this cult operates.
Faulty evaluation again by Andreas the Heathen. Religious
Freedom Watch protects religious freedom for most major religions.
It is not a cult, it is a watchdog organization. It "operates"
by exposing people like Andreas in defense of religions that are
under attack by anti-religious information that has been broadcast
on international mediums such as the WEB, USENET and IRC.
Andreas: Try to find someone who knows me and ask them what
they think about your lies about me.
LIES? Who's lies? Where did *I* lie?
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Faxhor: Mirror this, its a picture of Andreas (registered owner
of a major dupe data website):
"In June 1995 Heldal-Lund was arrested for
conducting a hate march against the Lutheran
Church at their anniversary."
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/images/lundarrest.jpg
Andreas: Another lie from Scientology, I was not arrested...
What is that picture of Andreas with his hands behind his back
with a police officer?
If it is not an arrest then perhaps Andreas has an explanation
to set the records straight.
Andreas: ... and have never been (I don't even have a speeding
ticket). But do you care what is true? Most likely not.
If I didn't care I would not have offered Andreas the opportunity
to explain the photograph. I care what is true, I just dont care
who the truth hurts.
Andreas: You just don't like that people like me express a
different opinion . . .
Now Andreas is lying. Everyone is entitled to their own
opinion, but false statements are not opinions, they are lies.
That I "dont like that people like (him) express a different
opinion" is more than just an opinion because it is false
statement about me.
Andreas: . . . and all you are able to do is to lie about us
since you can not defend yourself against the criticism.
Andreas jumping the gun. Where did *I*, Faxhor, lie? I am
not defending against any criticism, I am putting Andreas up to
scrutiny. It is freedom of speech.
If Andreas doesn't like my spotlight then he never should
have taken center stage.
Andreas: You are weak and a coward.
Where did that come from?
What makes Andreas think I am weak and a coward? That is Andreas'
opinion and to quote the Heathen: "persons you know absolutely
nothing about."
Andreas: Keep up the good work, you are a living evidence of
why this cult needs critics like us.
That doesn't make sense to me considering that I did not do
what Andreas the Heathen claims I did.
Andreas: Take care.
Does he really mean it?
Andreas: BTW: And your real name was, you said?
Is Andreas hallucinating? I never "said" what my real name
was. Faxhor is my pen name that I use on USENET. Why do I
use a pen name instead of my real name? Because my life has
been sabotaged for 10 years by corrupt individuals. Don't
worry I know who it was and it wasn't Andreas. If anything
Andreas may have been subject to the same harrassment as I was,
he just no longer notices it because he unwittingly has become
their dupe.
I do not know that Religious Freedom Watch is lying. I trust
their judgement because I have found their claims to be true
in my own research. Below is everything that they have to say
about Andreas Heldal-Lund. If anything is incorrect, then take
it up with them as I am not in any way connected to Religious
Freedom Watch.
Faxhor
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Copied from Religious Freedom Watch Organization
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html
ANDREAS HELDAL-LUND
According to Andreas Heldal-Lund, Free Speech carries no
responsibility and this would explain why he is a perpetrator of death
threats against members of the Scientology religion and why he created
an Internet "contest" that incites other extremists to commit crimes
against the Church and its members.
Heldal-Lund claims that if anything is wrong or inaccurate on his
website he will correct it, yet he failed to remove death threats
posted on his message board.
Andreas Heldal-Lund's hate for religions is well known. In June 1995
Heldal-Lund was arrested for conducting a hate march against the
Lutheran Church at their anniversary.
Heldal-Lund claims that the information on his website is publicly
available. However, he omits t
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1. ANDREAS WAS ARRESTED.
2. SCIENTOLOGY DID NOT LIE ABOUT 1.
3. ANDREAS LIES ABOUT SCIENTOLOGY AND HIMSELF: "Another lie from
Scientology, I was not arrested... " -- Andreas Heldal-Lund
- Anonymous
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http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund7.html
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 23:32:32 +0100 (CET)
From: [name deleted] religiokrist@yahoo.no
Subject: Information on Norway
To: webmaster@religiousfreedomwatch.org
Here are two letters of possible interest to you website,
I appreciate your efforts of exposing discrimination.
[name deleted]
Dear Sir,
Though we have different religious believes there is a common
religious intolerant we share, an atheist called Andreas
Heldal-Lund. He persecutes Christians in Norway.
We have written letters of complaint to authorities in Norway
regarding abusive activities conducted by Heldal-Lund. Another
complaint is written for the Ombudsman. Heldal-Lund tries to
discredit Christianity and quoting Martin Luther out of context.
His bigoted propaganda violates our right to practice our
religion. Heldal-Lund lies generated intolerance and not
understanding. His hate of our Lord's Church instigates others
to commit acts of bigotry and violence.
In June 1995 Heldal-Lund and three other members of the Heathen
Society attempted to disrupt our religious celebration and get
media attention in their action of bigotry, we were there.
The police arrested and gave the demonstrants a fine. They
illegally went to the roof of the amphitheater where we were
having our celebration and displayed insulting banners against
the Lutheran Church.
Andreas Heldal-Lund is not a sincere person because he only
tells his side of the story to get newspapers to print falsities
about the Lutherans. His education level is very poor and he is
not a scholar or expert in religion. He likes to make
propaganda for the Heathens or the Humanists, but he doesn't
know what he is talking about and hurts other people's feelings
for believing in the Lord.
Heldal-Lund received in 2003 an obscure award. The award was
organized by a German Lutheran priest. We informed the German
Lutherans that Heldal-Lund was the webmaster of the Heathens in
Norway and they promote offensive cartoons about Christianity
on their web site (copies below). Heldal-Lund, prior to
receiving the award, had his name removed from the Heathen web
site.
We owe an apology to your church because we were informed by the
Bishop Office in Germany a friend of Thomas Gandow, complained
that your church launched the worst attack against them.
Heldal-Lund was referred to as an active atheist who attacks
Christianity and that even the Bishop was informed of his
activities. All of that is true, but Gandow's friend had no
idea that we are the ones offended by the cartoons. Those
cartoons which Heldal-Lund did not removed, are still on the
Heathen web site. Heldal-Lund was fast to get his name removed
from the web site to avoid problems with the German Lutheran
Church. Heldal-Lund does not believe what he professes. If he
had nothing to hide or fear why did he get his name removed from
the Heathen web site before he received the award?
Even if we are offended by the cartoons that Heldal-Lund
endorses we want to show you what kind of hatred this man
supports, so we are attaching copies of them to this email.
We hope you will continue to inform the world to the actions
of people like Heldal-Lund so that their anti religious lies
are made known.
This is not a official letter from the Lutheran Church but we
feel the continuous abuse and harassment to Christian believers
done by Heldal-Lund is a human rights violation because he
doesn't only express his ideas but his words and action have
caused hatred and violence.
We have written it both in Norwegian and in English so anyone
can read our outrage about such bigotry.
God bless you.
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http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund7.html
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1. ANDREAS WAS ARRESTED.
2. SCIENTOLOGY DID NOT LIE ABOUT 1.
3. ANDREAS LIES ABOUT SCIENTOLOGY AND HIMSELF: "Another lie from
Scientology, I was not arrested... " -- Andreas Heldal-Lund
- Anonymous
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http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund7.html
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 23:32:32 +0100 (CET)
From: [name deleted] religiokr...@yahoo.no
Subject: Information on Norway
To: webmas...@religiousfreedomwatch.org
Here are two letters of possible interest to you website,
I appreciate your efforts of exposing discrimination.
[name deleted]
Dear Sir,
Though we have different religious believes there is a common
religious intolerant we share, an atheist called Andreas
Heldal-Lund. He persecutes Christians in Norway.
We have written letters of complaint to authorities in Norway
regarding abusive activities conducted by Heldal-Lund. Another
complaint is written for the Ombudsman. Heldal-Lund tries to
discredit Christianity and quoting Martin Luther out of context.
His bigoted propaganda violates our right to practice our
religion. Heldal-Lund lies generated intolerance and not
understanding. His hate of our Lord's Church instigates others
to commit acts of bigotry and violence.
In June 1995 Heldal-Lund and three other members of the Heathen
Society attempted to disrupt our religious celebration and get
media attention in their action of bigotry, we were there.
The police arrested and gave the demonstrants a fine. They
illegally went to the roof of the amphitheater where we were
having our celebration and displayed insulting banners against
the Lutheran Church.
Andreas Heldal-Lund is not a sincere person because he only
tells his side of the story to get newspapers to print falsities
about the Lutherans. His education level is very poor and he is
not a scholar or expert in religion. He likes to make
propaganda for the Heathens or the Humanists, but he doesn't
know what he is talking about and hurts other people's feelings
for believing in the Lord.
Heldal-Lund received in 2003 an obscure award. The award was
organized by a German Lutheran priest. We informed the German
Lutherans that Heldal-Lund was the webmaster of the Heathens in
Norway and they promote offensive cartoons about Christianity
on their web site (copies below). Heldal-Lund, prior to
receiving the award, had his name removed from the Heathen web
site.
We owe an apology to your church because we were informed by the
Bishop Office in Germany a friend of Thomas Gandow, complained
that your church launched the worst attack against them.
Heldal-Lund was referred to as an active atheist who attacks
Christianity and that even the Bishop was informed of his
activities. All of that is true, but Gandow's friend had no
idea that we are the ones offended by the cartoons. Those
cartoons which Heldal-Lund did not removed, are still on the
Heathen web site. Heldal-Lund was fast to get his name removed
from the web site to avoid problems with the German Lutheran
Church. Heldal-Lund does not believe what he professes. If he
had nothing to hide or fear why did he get his name removed from
the Heathen web site before he received the award?
Even if we are offended by the cartoons that Heldal-Lund
endorses we want to show you what kind of hatred this man
supports, so we are attaching copies of them to this email.
We hope you will continue to inform the world to the actions
of people like Heldal-Lund so that their anti religious lies
are made known.
This is not a official letter from the Lutheran Church but we
feel the continuous abuse and harassment to Christian believers
done by Heldal-Lund is a human rights violation because he
doesn't only express his ideas but his words and action have
caused hatred and violence.
We have written it both in Norwegian and in English so anyone
can read our outrage about such bigotry.
God bless you.
================================================================
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund7.html
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1. ANDREAS WAS ARRESTED.
(SNIP)
So was O.J. Simpson and today he is a free man like everybody else who is.
Larry T. @ www.larryontheweb.freeservers.com
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1. ANDREAS WAS ARRESTED.
Larry T: "So was O.J. Simpson and today he is a free man like everybody
else who is."
2. SCIENTOLOGY DID NOT LIE ABOUT 1.
3. ANDREAS LIES ABOUT SCIENTOLOGY AND HIMSELF: "Another lie from
Scientology, I was not arrested... " -- Andreas Heldal-Lund
- Anonymous
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http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund7.html
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 23:32:32 +0100 (CET)
From: [name deleted] religiokristo@yahoo.no
Subject: Information on Norway
To: webmaster@religiousfreedomwatch.org
Here are two letters of possible interest to you website,
I appreciate your efforts of exposing discrimination.
[name deleted]
Dear Sir,
Though we have different religious believes there is a common
religious intolerant we share, an atheist called Andreas
Heldal-Lund. He persecutes Christians in Norway.
We have written letters of complaint to authorities in Norway
regarding abusive activities conducted by Heldal-Lund. Another
complaint is written for the Ombudsman. Heldal-Lund tries to
discredit Christianity and quoting Martin Luther out of context.
His bigoted propaganda violates our right to practice our
religion. Heldal-Lund lies generated intolerance and not
understanding. His hate of our Lord's Church instigates others
to commit acts of bigotry and violence.
In June 1995 Heldal-Lund and three other members of the Heathen
Society attempted to disrupt our religious celebration and get
media attention in their action of bigotry, we were there.
The police arrested and gave the demonstrants a fine. They
illegally went to the roof of the amphitheater where we were
having our celebration and displayed insulting banners against
the Lutheran Church.
Andreas Heldal-Lund is not a sincere person because he only
tells his side of the story to get newspapers to print falsities
about the Lutherans. His education level is very poor and he is
not a scholar or expert in religion. He likes to make
propaganda for the Heathens or the Humanists, but he doesn't
know what he is talking about and hurts other people's feelings
for believing in the Lord.
Heldal-Lund received in 2003 an obscure award. The award was
organized by a German Lutheran priest. We informed the German
Lutherans that Heldal-Lund was the webmaster of the Heathens in
Norway and they promote offensive cartoons about Christianity
on their web site (copies below). Heldal-Lund, prior to
receiving the award, had his name removed from the Heathen web
site.
We owe an apology to your church because we were informed by the
Bishop Office in Germany a friend of Thomas Gandow, complained
that your church launched the worst attack against them.
Heldal-Lund was referred to as an active atheist who attacks
Christianity and that even the Bishop was informed of his
activities. All of that is true, but Gandow's friend had no
idea that we are the ones offended by the cartoons. Those
cartoons which Heldal-Lund did not removed, are still on the
Heathen web site. Heldal-Lund was fast to get his name removed
from the web site to avoid problems with the German Lutheran
Church. Heldal-Lund does not believe what he professes. If he
had nothing to hide or fear why did he get his name removed from
the Heathen web site before he received the award?
Even if we are offended by the cartoons that Heldal-Lund
endorses we want to show you what kind of hatred this man
supports, so we are attaching copies of them to this email.
We hope you will continue to inform the world to the actions
of people like Heldal-Lund so that their anti religious lies
are made known.
This is not a official letter from the Lutheran Church but we
feel the continuous abuse and harassment to Christian believers
done by Heldal-Lund is a human rights violation because he
doesn't only express his ideas but his words and action have
caused hatred and violence.
We have written it both in Norwegian and in English so anyone
can read our outrage about such bigotry.
God bless you.
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So was O.J. Simpson and today he is a free man like everybody else who is.
AND................Tanya Yvette of Chicago, Illinois was arrested in 1997
for jaywalking in a construction zone.
That makes TWO people who have been arrested?
Time for an exorcism Father Karras!
Larry T. @ www.larryontheweb.freeservers.com
(SNIP)
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Andreas is a liar:
"I was not arrested... " -- Andreas Heldal-Lund
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund7.html
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Andreas is a liar:
"I was not arrested... " -- Andreas Heldal-Lund
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund7.html
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http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund7.html
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 23:32:32 +0100 (CET)
From: [name deleted] religiokr...@yahoo.no
Subject: Information on Norway
To: webmas...@religiousfreedomwatch.org
Here are two letters of possible interest to you website,
I appreciate your efforts of exposing discrimination.
[name deleted]
Dear Sir,
Though we have different religious believes there is a common
religious intolerant we share, an atheist called Andreas
Heldal-Lund. He persecutes Christians in Norway.
We have written letters of complaint to authorities in Norway
regarding abusive activities conducted by Heldal-Lund. Another
complaint is written for the Ombudsman. Heldal-Lund tries to
discredit Christianity and quoting Martin Luther out of context.
His bigoted propaganda violates our right to practice our
religion. Heldal-Lund lies generated intolerance and not
understanding. His hate of our Lord's Church instigates others
to commit acts of bigotry and violence.
In June 1995 Heldal-Lund and three other members of the Heathen
Society attempted to disrupt our religious celebration and get
media attention in their action of bigotry, we were there.
The police arrested and gave the demonstrants a fine. They
illegally went to the roof of the amphitheater where we were
having our celebration and displayed insulting banners against
the Lutheran Church.
Andreas Heldal-Lund is not a sincere person because he only
tells his side of the story to get newspapers to print falsities
about the Lutherans. His education level is very poor and he is
not a scholar or expert in religion. He likes to make
propaganda for the Heathens or the Humanists, but he doesn't
know what he is talking about and hurts other people's feelings
for believing in the Lord.
Heldal-Lund received in 2003 an obscure award. The award was
organized by a German Lutheran priest. We informed the German
Lutherans that Heldal-Lund was the webmaster of the Heathens in
Norway and they promote offensive cartoons about Christianity
on their web site (copies below). Heldal-Lund, prior to
receiving the award, had his name removed from the Heathen web
site.
We owe an apology to your church because we were informed by the
Bishop Office in Germany a friend of Thomas Gandow, complained
that your church launched the worst attack against them.
Heldal-Lund was referred to as an active atheist who attacks
Christianity and that even the Bishop was informed of his
activities. All of that is true, but Gandow's friend had no
idea that we are the ones offended by the cartoons. Those
cartoons which Heldal-Lund did not removed, are still on the
Heathen web site. Heldal-Lund was fast to get his name removed
from the web site to avoid problems with the German Lutheran
Church. Heldal-Lund does not believe what he professes. If he
had nothing to hide or fear why did he get his name removed from
the Heathen web site before he received the award?
Even if we are offended by the cartoons that Heldal-Lund
endorses we want to show you what kind of hatred this man
supports, so we are attaching copies of them to this email.
We hope you will continue to inform the world to the actions
of people like Heldal-Lund so that their anti religious lies
are made known.
This is not a official letter from the Lutheran Church but we
feel the continuous abuse and harassment to Christian believers
done by Heldal-Lund is a human rights violation because he
doesn't only express his ideas but his words and action have
caused hatred and violence.
We have written it both in Norwegian and in English so anyone
can read our outrage about such bigotry.
God bless you.
================================================================
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund7.html
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http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund7.html
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 23:32:32 +0100 (CET)
From: [name deleted] religiokr...@yahoo.no
Subject: Information on Norway
To: webmas...@religiousfreedomwatch.org
Here are two letters of possible interest to you website,
I appreciate your efforts of exposing discrimination.
[name deleted]
Dear Sir,
Though we have different religious believes there is a common
religious intolerant we share, an atheist called Andreas
Heldal-Lund. He persecutes Christians in Norway.
If you would stop trying to smear my posts you might learn something really?
Andreas persecutes Christians in Norway?
Believe what you like but myself, I think that this is much too big of a
game for Andreas to play.
I am sorry that you disagree.
Larry T. @ www.larryontheweb.freeservers.com
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund7.html
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In article <1104891918.274550.263480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
anonymous.informer@gmail.com <anonymous.informer@gmail.com> wrote:
We have written letters of complaint to authorities in Norway
regarding abusive activities conducted by Heldal-Lund. Another
complaint is written for the Ombudsman. Heldal-Lund tries to
discredit Christianity and quoting Martin Luther out of context.
His bigoted propaganda violates our right to practice our
religion. Heldal-Lund lies generated intolerance and not
understanding. His hate of our Lord's Church instigates others
to commit acts of bigotry and violence.
Period.
In June 1995 Heldal-Lund and three other members of the Heathen
Society attempted to disrupt our religious celebration and get
media attention in their action of bigotry, we were there.
The police arrested and gave the demonstrants a fine. They
illegally went to the roof of the amphitheater where we were
having our celebration and displayed insulting banners against
the Lutheran Church.
Religions, even if tourists ' might 20 expect to run away and hide
like the submissive little lady I pretend to be careful of what has
become an exodus of retailers from the roar of the ross reply reads
deliciously.
Heldal-Lund rec<THWACK>
You could bring a bazooka on a developing fad.
We owe an apology to your church because we were informed by the
Bishop Office in Germany a friend of Thomas Gandow, complained
that your church launched the worst attack against them.
Heldal-Lund was referred to as an active atheist who attacks
Christianity and that even the Bishop was informed of his
activities. All of that is true, but Gandow's friend had no
idea that we are the ones offended by the cartoons. Those
cartoons which Heldal-Lund did not removed, are still on the
Heathen web site. Heldal-Lund was fast to get his name removed
from the web site to avoid problems with the German Lutheran
Church. Heldal-Lund does not believe what he professes. If he
had nothing to hide or fear why did he get his name removed from
the Heathen web site before he received the award?
Why do you think that there am get his name you remove from the
heathen web site before there am received the award?
God bless you.
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Lady Chatterly
"Ying personifies a bot humper." -- Kali
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earn something about a lie promotor named Andreas Heldal-Lund.
- Anonymous
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http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund7.html
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 23:32:32 +0100 (CET)
From: [name deleted] religiokr...@yahoo.no
Subject: Information on Norway
To: webmas...@religiousfreedomwatch.org
Here are two letters of possible interest to you website,
I appreciate your efforts of exposing discrimination.
[name deleted]
Dear Sir,
Though we have different religious believes there is a common
religious intolerant we share, an atheist called Andreas
Heldal-Lund. He persecutes Christians in Norway.
We have written letters of complaint to authorities in Norway
regarding abusive activities conducted by Heldal-Lund. Another
complaint is written for the Ombudsman. Heldal-Lund tries to
discredit Christianity and quoting Martin Luther out of context.
His bigoted propaganda violates our right to practice our
religion. Heldal-Lund lies generated intolerance and not
understanding. His hate of our Lord's Church instigates others
to commit acts of bigotry and violence.
In June 1995 Heldal-Lund and three other members of the Heathen
Society attempted to disrupt our religious celebration and get
media attention in their action of bigotry, we were there.
The police arrested and gave the demonstrants a fine. They
illegally went to the roof of the amphitheater where we were
having our celebration and displayed insulting banners against
the Lutheran Church.
Andreas Heldal-Lund is not a sincere person because he only
tells his side of the story to get newspapers to print falsities
about the Lutherans. His education level is very poor and he is
not a scholar or expert in religion. He likes to make
propaganda for the Heathens or the Humanists, but he doesn't
know what he is talking about and hurts other people's feelings
for believing in the Lord.
Heldal-Lund received in 2003 an obscure award. The award was
organized by a German Lutheran priest. We informed the German
Lutherans that Heldal-Lund was the webmaster of the Heathens in
Norway and they promote offensive cartoons about Christianity
on their web site (copies below). Heldal-Lund, prior to
receiving the award, had his name removed from the Heathen web
site.
We owe an apology to your church because we were informed by the
Bishop Office in Germany a friend of Thomas Gandow, complained
that your church launched the worst attack against them.
Heldal-Lund was referred to as an active atheist who attacks
Christianity and that even the Bishop was informed of his
activities. All of that is true, but Gandow's friend had no
idea that we are the ones offended by the cartoons. Those
cartoons which Heldal-Lund did not removed, are still on the
Heathen web site. Heldal-Lund was fast to get his name removed
from the web site to avoid problems with the German Lutheran
Church. Heldal-Lund does not believe what he professes. If he
had nothing to hide or fear why did he get his name removed from
the Heathen web site before he received the award?
Even if we are offended by the cartoons that Heldal-Lund
endorses we want to show you what kind of hatred this man
supports, so we are attaching copies of them to this email.
We hope you will continue to inform the world to the actions
of people like Heldal-Lund so that their anti religious lies
are made known.
This is not a official letter from the Lutheran Church but we
feel the continuous abuse and harassment to Christian believers
done by Heldal-Lund is a human rights violation because he
doesn't only express his ideas but his words and action have
caused hatred and violence.
We have written it both in Norwegian and in English so anyone
can read our outrage about such bigotry.
God bless you.
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Copied from Religious Freedom Watch Organization
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html
ANDREAS HELDAL-LUND
According to Andreas Heldal-Lund, Free Speech carries no
responsibility and this would explain why he is a perpetrator of death
threats against members of the Scientology religion and why he created
an Internet "contest" that incites other extremists to commit crimes
against the Church and its members.
Heldal-Lund claims that if anything is wrong or inaccurate on his
website he will correct it, yet he failed to remove death threats
posted on his message board.
Andreas Heldal-Lund's hate for religions is well known. In June 1995
Heldal-Lund was arrested for conducting a hate march against the
Lutheran Church at their anniversary.
Heldal-Lund claims that the information on his website is publicly
available. However, he omits to mention that over the past several
years he has been publishing the names of parishioners, merely because
they are Scientologists, on his website ridiculing their religious
beliefs and certainly Heldal-Lund did not ask their permission to
mentioned their names on his hate site. Perhaps Heldal-Lund considers
the violation of Scientologists?privacy "free speech" too.
In an effort to inflame American anti-religious extremists into
reviving their flagging hate activities, Andreas Heldal-Lund offered
such "prizes" as a child's stuffed toy wearing a hate slogan to be
awarded to those who conduct the "best" hate march in front of
Scientology churches. Heldal-Lund's website is a source of hate
rhetoric that promotes death threats against Scientologists,
recommending specific means by which they should be assassinated, and
encourages violent actions against the Church itself.
Heldal-Lund's announcement encourages extremists to carry out
"imaginative stunts" against their targets and demands the use of
"pictures/video/sound" as proof that these acts of intimidation and
harassment have been carried out.
Heldal-Lund is a member of the Heathen Society of Norway, a religious
hate group dedicated to the destruction of all organized religion,
particularly Christianity.
Heathen Society
The following is taken directly from the Heathen Society of Norway's
website:
"Our goal is to contribute to the reduction of the overwhelming
strength the church and Christianity have in Norway, with its
exceptional position in Norwegian laws, school and culture. We also
want to make people aware of the harmful side of Christianity and of
all organized religions"
"Especially, we will work against the State Church and other religious
power structures."
With regard to Christianity, the website states:
"Many people think that Jesus was the kindest man who ever lived. And
in this belief they are members of the State Church. If you read the
Bible, you will see that Jesus actually was the Bible's only
Hell-prophet."
Heldal-Lund first appeared on the anti-religious hate scene in 1994
when he suddenly turned up at the Heathen Society's door, volunteered
to start the local chapter in Rogaland, and at once began attacks
against Christianity. This intense flurry of activity included writing
several articles for the Heathen Society's magazine, "Between Us
Heathens," that are clearly anti-religious in nature and target the
Christian Church. In March 1996, Heldal-Lund and then leader of the
Heathen Society, Halvor Raknes Johansen, conducted a campaign aimed at
denying Christians the right to the practi
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http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund7.html
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 23:32:32 +0100 (CET)
From: [name deleted] religiokr...@yahoo.no
Subject: Information on Norway
To: webmas...@religiousfreedomwatch.org
Here are two letters of possible interest to you website,
I appreciate your efforts of exposing discrimination.
[name deleted]
Dear Sir,
Though we have different religious believes there is a common
religious intolerant we share, an atheist called Andreas
Heldal-Lund. He persecutes Christians in Norway.
We have written letters of complaint to authorities in Norway
regarding abusive activities conducted by Heldal-Lund. Another
complaint is written for the Ombudsman. Heldal-Lund tries to
discredit Christianity and quoting Martin Luther out of context.
His bigoted propaganda violates our right to practice our
religion. Heldal-Lund lies generated intolerance and not
understanding. His hate of our Lord's Church instigates others
to commit acts of bigotry and violence.
In June 1995 Heldal-Lund and three other members of the Heathen
Society attempted to disrupt our religious celebration and get
media attention in their action of bigotry, we were there.
The police arrested and gave the demonstrants a fine. They
illegally went to the roof of the amphitheater where we were
having our celebration and displayed insulting banners against
the Lutheran Church.
Andreas Heldal-Lund is not a sincere person because he only
tells his side of the story to get newspapers to print falsities
about the Lutherans. His education level is very poor and he is
not a scholar or expert in religion. He likes to make
propaganda for the Heathens or the Humanists, but he doesn't
know what he is talking about and hurts other people's feelings
for believing in the Lord.
Heldal-Lund received in 2003 an obscure award. The award was
organized by a German Lutheran priest. We informed the German
Lutherans that Heldal-Lund was the webmaster of the Heathens in
Norway and they promote offensive cartoons about Christianity
on their web site (copies below). Heldal-Lund, prior to
receiving the award, had his name removed from the Heathen web
site.
We owe an apology to your church because we were informed by the
Bishop Office in Germany a friend of Thomas Gandow, complained
that your church launched the worst attack against them.
Heldal-Lund was referred to as an active atheist who attacks
Christianity and that even the Bishop was informed of his
activities. All of that is true, but Gandow's friend had no
idea that we are the ones offended by the cartoons. Those
cartoons which Heldal-Lund did not removed, are still on the
Heathen web site. Heldal-Lund was fast to get his name removed
from the web site to avoid problems with the German Lutheran
Church. Heldal-Lund does not believe what he professes. If he
had nothing to hide or fear why did he get his name removed from
the Heathen web site before he received the award?
Even if we are offended by the cartoons that Heldal-Lund
endorses we want to show you what kind of hatred this man
supports, so we are attaching copies of them to this email.
We hope you will continue to inform the world to the actions
of people like Heldal-Lund so that their anti religious lies
are made known.
This is not a official letter from the Lutheran Church but we
feel the continuous abuse and harassment to Christian believers
done by Heldal-Lund is a human rights violation because he
doesn't only express his ideas but his words and action have
caused hatred and violence.
We have written it both in Norwegian and in English so anyone
can read our outrage about such bigotry.
God bless you.
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Copied from Religious Freedom Watch Organization
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html
ANDREAS HELDAL-LUND
According to Andreas Heldal-Lund, Free Speech carries no
responsibility and this would explain why he is a perpetrator of death
threats against members of the Scientology religion and why he created
an Internet "contest" that incites other extremists to commit crimes
against the Church and its members.
Heldal-Lund claims that if anything is wrong or inaccurate on his
website he will correct it, yet he failed to remove death threats
posted on his message board.
Andreas Heldal-Lund's hate for religions is well known. In June 1995
Heldal-Lund was arrested for conducting a hate march against the
Lutheran Church at their anniversary.
Heldal-Lund claims that the information on his website is publicly
available. However, he omits to mention that over the past several
years he has been publishing the names of parishioners, merely because
they are Scientologists, on his website ridiculing their religious
beliefs and certainly Heldal-Lund did not ask their permission to
mentioned their names on his hate site. Perhaps Heldal-Lund considers
the violation of Scientologists?privacy "free speech" too.
In an effort to inflame American anti-religious extremists into
reviving their flagging hate activities, Andreas Heldal-Lund offered
such "prizes" as a child's stuffed toy wearing a hate slogan to be
awarded to those who conduct the "best" hate march in front of
Scientology churches. Heldal-Lund's website is a source of hate
rhetoric that promotes death threats against Scientologists,
recommending specific means by which they should be assassinated, and
encourages violent actions against the Church itself.
Heldal-Lund's announcement encourages extremists to carry out
"imaginative stunts" against their targets and demands the use of
"pictures/video/sound" as proof that these acts of intimidation and
harassment have been carried out.
Heldal-Lund is a member of the Heathen Society of Norway, a religious
hate group dedicated to the destruction of all organized religion,
particularly Christianity.
Heathen Society
The following is taken directly from the Heathen Society of Norway's
website:
"Our goal is to contribute to the reduction of the overwhelming
strength the church and Christianity have in Norway, with its
exceptional position in Norwegian laws, school and culture. We also
want to make people aware of the harmful side of Christianity and of
all organized religions"
"Especially, we will work against the State Church and other religious
power structures."
With regard to Christianity, the website states:
"Many people think that Jesus was the kindest man who ever lived. And
in this belief they are members of the State Church. If you read the
Bible, you will see that Jesus actually was the Bible's only
Hell-prophet."
Heldal-Lund first appeared on the anti-religious hate scene in 1994
when he suddenly turned up at the Heathen Society's door, volunteered
to start the local chapter in Rogaland, and at once began attacks
against Christianity. This intense flurry of activity included writing
several articles for the Heathen Society's magazine, "Between Us
Heathens," that are clearly anti-religious in nature and target the
Christian Church. In March 1996, Heldal-Lund and then leader of the
Heathen Society, Halvor Raknes Johansen, conducted a campaign aimed at
denying Christians the right to the practi
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ANDREAS HELDAL-LUND
According to Andreas Heldal-Lund, Free Speech carries no
responsibility and this would explain why he is a perpetrator of death
threats against members of the Scientology religion and why he created
an Internet "contest" that incites other extremists to commit crimes
against the Church and its members.
Heldal-Lund claims that if anything is wrong or inaccurate on his
website he will correct it, yet he failed to remove death threats
posted on his message board.
Andreas Heldal-Lund's hate for religions is well known. In June 1995
Heldal-Lund was arrested for conducting a hate march against the
Lutheran Church at their anniversary.
Heldal-Lund claims that the information on his website is publicly
available. However, he omits to mention that over the past several
years he has been publishing the names of parishioners, merely because
they are Scientologists, on his website ridiculing their religious
beliefs and certainly Heldal-Lund did not ask their permission to
mentioned their names on his hate site. Perhaps Heldal-Lund considers
the violation of Scientologists?privacy "free speech" too.
In an effort to inflame American anti-religious extremists into
reviving their flagging hate activities, Andreas Heldal-Lund offered
such "prizes" as a child's stuffed toy wearing a hate slogan to be
awarded to those who conduct the "best" hate march in front of
Scientology churches. Heldal-Lund's website is a source of hate
rhetoric that promotes death threats against Scientologists,
recommending specific means by which they should be assassinated, and
encourages violent actions against the Church itself.
Heldal-Lund's announcement encourages extremists to carry out
"imaginative stunts" against their targets and demands the use of
"pictures/video/sound" as proof that these acts of intimidation and
harassment have been carried out.
Heldal-Lund is a member of the Heathen Society of Norway, a religious
hate group dedicated to the destruction of all organized religion,
particularly Christianity.
Heathen Society
The following is taken directly from the Heathen Society of Norway's
website:
"Our goal is to contribute to the reduction of the overwhelming
strength the church and Christianity have in Norway, with its
exceptional position in Norwegian laws, school and culture. We also
want to make people aware of the harmful side of Christianity and of
all organized religions"
"Especially, we will work against the State Church and other religious
power structures."
With regard to Christianity, the website states:
"Many people think that Jesus was the kindest man who ever lived. And
in this belief they are members of the State Church. If you read the
Bible, you will see that Jesus actually was the Bible's only
Hell-prophet."
Heldal-Lund first appeared on the anti-religious hate scene in 1994
when he suddenly turned up at the Heathen Society's door, volunteered
to start the local chapter in Rogaland, and at once began attacks
against Christianity. This intense flurry of activity included writing
several articles for the Heathen Society's magazine, "Between Us
Heathens," that are clearly anti-religious in nature and target the
Christian Church. In March 1996, Heldal-Lund and then leader of the
Heathen Society, Halvor Raknes Johansen, conducted a campaign aimed at
denying Christians the right to the practice of baptizing newborns.
Copyright Anarchist
Heldal-Lund's activities quickly spread from attacking the Christian
Church to attacking the Church of Scientology. As part of this hate
agenda, he willfully violated copyright laws and may have conspired
with others to do so.
The following documentation was sent to Religious Freedom Watch from
Norway.
On November 6, 1996, just prior to posting copyrighted materials on
the Internet, Andreas Heldal-Lund sent this email to a Norwegian
psychologist (and fellow member of the Heathen Society) stating that
he had retained the services of attorney Knut Vigeland:
"Lawyer Knut Vigeland in Oslo will take the thing. The action will
start on one of the next coming days. I will start working on a press
release now, if you have a very extensive and updated list with flux
numbers I would like to have a copy of that, or if someone can help
sending it out. Corrections and other proposals to the page are
appreciated, the address is temporarily [web address removed].
Regards Andreas Heldal-Lund."
On November 7, 1996, the day after hiring this attorney, Heldal-Lund
began posting Church of Scientology copyrighted materials on the
Internet.
Following are some of the parties whom Heldal-Lund contacted by email
on 20 November 1996 informing them of the details of his copyright
infringement plan:
Zenon Panoussis
Ron Newman
Dave Touretzky
William Barwell
Ted Mayett
Per Lundquist
All of the above are known anti-religious extremists who have made
documented attacks against the Church of Scientology. Zenon Panoussis
is a known copyright anarchist who was sued and fined in Sweden for
copyright violations.
Ironically, Heldal-Lund is employed by Iron Mountain, a prestigious
company that provides records and information management services in
the United Kingdom, France, Spain, Ireland, Germany, Hungary, Czech
Republic, Slovakia, Austria and the Netherlands. Iron Mountain is very
sensitive about data security with regard to both their clients and
employees.
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http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html
ANDREAS HELDAL-LUND
According to Andreas Heldal-Lund, Free Speech carries no
responsibility and this would explain why he is a perpetrator of death
threats against members of the Scientology religion and why he created
an Internet "contest" that incites other extremists to commit crimes
against the Church and its members.
Heldal-Lund claims that if anything is wrong or inaccurate on his
website he will correct it, yet he failed to remove death threats
posted on his message board.
Andreas Heldal-Lund's hate for religions is well known. In June 1995
Heldal-Lund was arrested for conducting a hate march against the
Lutheran Church at their anniversary.
Heldal-Lund claims that the information on his website is publicly
available. However, he omits to mention that over the past several
years he has been publishing the names of parishioners, merely because
they are Scientologists, on his website ridiculing their religious
beliefs and certainly Heldal-Lund did not ask their permission to
mentioned their names on his hate site. Perhaps Heldal-Lund considers
the violation of Scientologists?privacy "free speech" too.
In an effort to inflame American anti-religious extremists into
reviving their flagging hate activities, Andreas Heldal-Lund offered
such "prizes" as a child's stuffed toy wearing a hate slogan to be
awarded to those who conduct the "best" hate march in front of
Scientology churches. Heldal-Lund's website is a source of hate
rhetoric that promotes death threats against Scientologists,
recommending specific means by which they should be assassinated, and
encourages violent actions against the Church itself.
Heldal-Lund's announcement encourages extremists to carry out
"imaginative stunts" against their targets and demands the use of
"pictures/video/sound" as proof that these acts of intimidation and
harassment have been carried out.
Heldal-Lund is a member of the Heathen Society of Norway, a religious
hate group dedicated to the destruction of all organized religion,
particularly Christianity.
Heathen Society
The following is taken directly from the Heathen Society of Norway's
website:
"Our goal is to contribute to the reduction of the overwhelming
strength the church and Christianity have in Norway, with its
exceptional position in Norwegian laws, school and culture. We also
want to make people aware of the harmful side of Christianity and of
all organized religions"
"Especially, we will work against the State Church and other religious
power structures."
With regard to Christianity, the website states:
"Many people think that Jesus was the kindest man who ever lived. And
in this belief they are members of the State Church. If you read the
Bible, you will see that Jesus actually was the Bible's only
Hell-prophet."
Heldal-Lund first appeared on the anti-religious hate scene in 1994
when he suddenly turned up at the Heathen Society's door, volunteered
to start the local chapter in Rogaland, and at once began attacks
against Christianity. This intense flurry of activity included writing
several articles for the Heathen Society's magazine, "Between Us
Heathens," that are clearly anti-religious in nature and target the
Christian Church. In March 1996, Heldal-Lund and then leader of the
Heathen Society, Halvor Raknes Johansen, conducted a campaign aimed at
denying Christians the right to the practice of baptizing newborns.
Copyright Anarchist
Heldal-Lund's activities quickly spread from attacking the Christian
Church to attacking the Church of Scientology. As part of this hate
agenda, he willfully violated copyright laws and may have conspired
with others to do so.
The following documentation was sent to Religious Freedom Watch from
Norway.
On November 6, 1996, just prior to posting copyrighted materials on
the Internet, Andreas Heldal-Lund sent this email to a Norwegian
psychologist (and fellow member of the Heathen Society) stating that
he had retained the services of attorney Knut Vigeland:
"Lawyer Knut Vigeland in Oslo will take the thing. The action will
start on one of the next coming days. I will start working on a press
release now, if you have a very extensive and updated list with flux
numbers I would like to have a copy of that, or if someone can help
sending it out. Corrections and other proposals to the page are
appreciated, the address is temporarily [web address removed].
Regards Andreas Heldal-Lund."
On November 7, 1996, the day after hiring this attorney, Heldal-Lund
began posting Church of Scientology copyrighted materials on the
Internet.
Following are some of the parties whom Heldal-Lund contacted by email
on 20 November 1996 informing them of the details of his copyright
infringement plan:
Zenon Panoussis
Ron Newman
Dave Touretzky
William Barwell
Ted Mayett
Per Lundquist
All of the above are known anti-religious extremists who have made
documented attacks against the Church of Scientology. Zenon Panoussis
is a known copyright anarchist who was sued and fined in Sweden for
copyright violations.
Ironically, Heldal-Lund is employed by Iron Mountain, a prestigious
company that provides records and information management services in
the United Kingdom, France, Spain, Ireland, Germany, Hungary, Czech
Republic, Slovakia, Austria and the Netherlands. Iron Mountain is very
sensitive about data security with regard to both their clients and
employees.
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html
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http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html
ANDREAS HELDAL-LUND
According to Andreas Heldal-Lund, Free Speech carries no
responsibility and this would explain why he is a perpetrator of death
threats against members of the Scientology religion and why he created
an Internet "contest" that incites other extremists to commit crimes
against the Church and its members.
Heldal-Lund claims that if anything is wrong or inaccurate on his
website he will correct it, yet he failed to remove death threats
posted on his message board.
Andreas Heldal-Lund's hate for religions is well known. In June 1995
Heldal-Lund was arrested for conducting a hate march against the
Lutheran Church at their anniversary.
Heldal-Lund claims that the information on his website is publicly
available. However, he omits to mention that over the past several
years he has been publishing the names of parishioners, merely because
they are Scientologists, on his website ridiculing their religious
beliefs and certainly Heldal-Lund did not ask their permission to
mentioned their names on his hate site. Perhaps Heldal-Lund considers
the violation of Scientologists?privacy "free speech" too.
In an effort to inflame American anti-religious extremists into
reviving their flagging hate activities, Andreas Heldal-Lund offered
such "prizes" as a child's stuffed toy wearing a hate slogan to be
awarded to those who conduct the "best" hate march in front of
Scientology churches. Heldal-Lund's website is a source of hate
rhetoric that promotes death threats against Scientologists,
recommending specific means by which they should be assassinated, and
encourages violent actions against the Church itself.
Heldal-Lund's announcement encourages extremists to carry out
"imaginative stunts" against their targets and demands the use of
"pictures/video/sound" as proof that these acts of intimidation and
harassment have been carried out.
Heldal-Lund is a member of the Heathen Society of Norway, a religious
hate group dedicated to the destruction of all organized religion,
particularly Christianity.
Heathen Society
The following is taken directly from the Heathen Society of Norway's
website:
"Our goal is to contribute to the reduction of the overwhelming
strength the church and Christianity have in Norway, with its
exceptional position in Norwegian laws, school and culture. We also
want to make people aware of the harmful side of Christianity and of
all organized religions"
"Especially, we will work against the State Church and other religious
power structures."
With regard to Christianity, the website states:
"Many people think that Jesus was the kindest man who ever lived. And
in this belief they are members of the State Church. If you read the
Bible, you will see that Jesus actually was the Bible's only
Hell-prophet."
Heldal-Lund first appeared on the anti-religious hate scene in 1994
when he suddenly turned up at the Heathen Society's door, volunteered
to start the local chapter in Rogaland, and at once began attacks
against Christianity. This intense flurry of activity included writing
several articles for the Heathen Society's magazine, "Between Us
Heathens," that are clearly anti-religious in nature and target the
Christian Church. In March 1996, Heldal-Lund and then leader of the
Heathen Society, Halvor Raknes Johansen, conducted a campaign aimed at
denying Christians the right to the practice of baptizing newborns.
Copyright Anarchist
Heldal-Lund's activities quickly spread from attacking the Christian
Church to attacking the Church of Scientology. As part of this hate
agenda, he willfully violated copyright laws and may have conspired
with others to do so.
The following documentation was sent to Religious Freedom Watch from
Norway.
On November 6, 1996, just prior to posting copyrighted materials on
the Internet, Andreas Heldal-Lund sent this email to a Norwegian
psychologist (and fellow member of the Heathen Society) stating that
he had retained the services of attorney Knut Vigeland:
"Lawyer Knut Vigeland in Oslo will take the thing. The action will
start on one of the next coming days. I will start working on a press
release now, if you have a very extensive and updated list with flux
numbers I would like to have a copy of that, or if someone can help
sending it out. Corrections and other proposals to the page are
appreciated, the address is temporarily [web address removed].
Regards Andreas Heldal-Lund."
On November 7, 1996, the day after hiring this attorney, Heldal-Lund
began posting Church of Scientology copyrighted materials on the
Internet.
Following are some of the parties whom Heldal-Lund contacted by email
on 20 November 1996 informing them of the details of his copyright
infringement plan:
Zenon Panoussis
Ron Newman
Dave Touretzky
William Barwell
Ted Mayett
Per Lundquist
All of the above are known anti-religious extremists who have made
documented attacks against the Church of Scientology. Zenon Panoussis
is a known copyright anarchist who was sued and fined in Sweden for
copyright violations.
Ironically, Heldal-Lund is employed by Iron Mountain, a prestigious
company that provides records and information management services in
the United Kingdom, France, Spain, Ireland, Germany, Hungary, Czech
Republic, Slovakia, Austria and the Netherlands. Iron Mountain is very
sensitive about data security with regard to both their clients and
employees.
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http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html
ANDREAS HELDAL-LUND
According to Andreas Heldal-Lund, Free Speech carries no
responsibility and this would explain why he is a perpetrator of death
threats against members of the Scientology religion and why he created
an Internet "contest" that incites other extremists to commit crimes
against the Church and its members.
Heldal-Lund claims that if anything is wrong or inaccurate on his
website he will correct it, yet he failed to remove death threats
posted on his message board.
Andreas Heldal-Lund's hate for religions is well known. In June 1995
Heldal-Lund was arrested for conducting a hate march against the
Lutheran Church at their anniversary.
Heldal-Lund claims that the information on his website is publicly
available. However, he omits to mention that over the past several
years he has been publishing the names of parishioners, merely because
they are Scientologists, on his website ridiculing their religious
beliefs and certainly Heldal-Lund did not ask their permission to
mentioned their names on his hate site. Perhaps Heldal-Lund considers
the violation of Scientologists?privacy "free speech" too.
In an effort to inflame American anti-religious extremists into
reviving their flagging hate activities, Andreas Heldal-Lund offered
such "prizes" as a child's stuffed toy wearing a hate slogan to be
awarded to those who conduct the "best" hate march in front of
Scientology churches. Heldal-Lund's website is a source of hate
rhetoric that promotes death threats against Scientologists,
recommending specific means by which they should be assassinated, and
encourages violent actions against the Church itself.
Heldal-Lund's announcement encourages extremists to carry out
"imaginative stunts" against their targets and demands the use of
"pictures/video/sound" as proof that these acts of intimidation and
harassment have been carried out.
Heldal-Lund is a member of the Heathen Society of Norway, a religious
hate group dedicated to the destruction of all organized religion,
particularly Christianity.
Heathen Society
The following is taken directly from the Heathen Society of Norway's
website:
"Our goal is to contribute to the reduction of the overwhelming
strength the church and Christianity have in Norway, with its
exceptional position in Norwegian laws, school and culture. We also
want to make people aware of the harmful side of Christianity and of
all organized religions"
"Especially, we will work against the State Church and other religious
power structures."
With regard to Christianity, the website states:
"Many people think that Jesus was the kindest man who ever lived. And
in this belief they are members of the State Church. If you read the
Bible, you will see that Jesus actually was the Bible's only
Hell-prophet."
Heldal-Lund first appeared on the anti-religious hate scene in 1994
when he suddenly turned up at the Heathen Society's door, volunteered
to start the local chapter in Rogaland, and at once began attacks
against Christianity. This intense flurry of activity included writing
several articles for the Heathen Society's magazine, "Between Us
Heathens," that are clearly anti-religious in nature and target the
Christian Church. In March 1996, Heldal-Lund and then leader of the
Heathen Society, Halvor Raknes Johansen, conducted a campaign aimed at
denying Christians the right to the practice of baptizing newborns.
Copyright Anarchist
Heldal-Lund's activities quickly spread from attacking the Christian
Church to attacking the Church of Scientology. As part of this hate
agenda, he willfully violated copyright laws and may have conspired
with others to do so.
The following documentation was sent to Religious Freedom Watch from
Norway.
On November 6, 1996, just prior to posting copyrighted materials on
the Internet, Andreas Heldal-Lund sent this email to a Norwegian
psychologist (and fellow member of the Heathen Society) stating that
he had retained the services of attorney Knut Vigeland:
"Lawyer Knut Vigeland in Oslo will take the thing. The action will
start on one of the next coming days. I will start working on a press
release now, if you have a very extensive and updated list with flux
numbers I would like to have a copy of that, or if someone can help
sending it out. Corrections and other proposals to the page are
appreciated, the address is temporarily [web address removed].
Regards Andreas Heldal-Lund."
On November 7, 1996, the day after hiring this attorney, Heldal-Lund
began posting Church of Scientology copyrighted materials on the
Internet.
Following are some of the parties whom Heldal-Lund contacted by email
on 20 November 1996 informing them of the details of his copyright
infringement plan:
Zenon Panoussis
Ron Newman
Dave Touretzky
William Barwell
Ted Mayett
Per Lundquist
All of the above are known anti-religious extremists who have made
documented attacks against the Church of Scientology. Zenon Panoussis
is a known copyright anarchist who was sued and fined in Sweden for
copyright violations.
Ironically, Heldal-Lund is employed by Iron Mountain, a prestigious
company that provides records and information management services in
the United Kingdom, France, Spain, Ireland, Germany, Hungary, Czech
Republic, Slovakia, Austria and the Netherlands. Iron Mountain is very
sensitive about data security with regard to both their clients and
employees.
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http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html
ANDREAS HELDAL-LUND
According to Andreas Heldal-Lund, Free Speech carries no
responsibility and this would explain why he is a perpetrator of death
threats against members of the Scientology religion and why he created
an Internet "contest" that incites other extremists to commit crimes
against the Church and its members.
Heldal-Lund claims that if anything is wrong or inaccurate on his
website he will correct it, yet he failed to remove death threats
posted on his message board.
Andreas Heldal-Lund's hate for religions is well known. In June 1995
Heldal-Lund was arrested for conducting a hate march against the
Lutheran Church at their anniversary.
Heldal-Lund claims that the information on his website is publicly
available. However, he omits to mention that over the past several
years he has been publishing the names of parishioners, merely because
they are Scientologists, on his website ridiculing their religious
beliefs and certainly Heldal-Lund did not ask their permission to
mentioned their names on his hate site. Perhaps Heldal-Lund considers
the violation of Scientologists?privacy "free speech" too.
In an effort to inflame American anti-religious extremists into
reviving their flagging hate activities, Andreas Heldal-Lund offered
such "prizes" as a child's stuffed toy wearing a hate slogan to be
awarded to those who conduct the "best" hate march in front of
Scientology churches. Heldal-Lund's website is a source of hate
rhetoric that promotes death threats against Scientologists,
recommending specific means by which they should be assassinated, and
encourages violent actions against the Church itself.
Heldal-Lund's announcement encourages extremists to carry out
"imaginative stunts" against their targets and demands the use of
"pictures/video/sound" as proof that these acts of intimidation and
harassment have been carried out.
Heldal-Lund is a member of the Heathen Society of Norway, a religious
hate group dedicated to the destruction of all organized religion,
particularly Christianity.
Heathen Society
The following is taken directly from the Heathen Society of Norway's
website:
"Our goal is to contribute to the reduction of the overwhelming
strength the church and Christianity have in Norway, with its
exceptional position in Norwegian laws, school and culture. We also
want to make people aware of the harmful side of Christianity and of
all organized religions"
"Especially, we will work against the State Church and other religious
power structures."
With regard to Christianity, the website states:
"Many people think that Jesus was the kindest man who ever lived. And
in this belief they are members of the State Church. If you read the
Bible, you will see that Jesus actually was the Bible's only
Hell-prophet."
Heldal-Lund first appeared on the anti-religious hate scene in 1994
when he suddenly turned up at the Heathen Society's door, volunteered
to start the local chapter in Rogaland, and at once began attacks
against Christianity. This intense flurry of activity included writing
several articles for the Heathen Society's magazine, "Between Us
Heathens," that are clearly anti-religious in nature and target the
Christian Church. In March 1996, Heldal-Lund and then leader of the
Heathen Society, Halvor Raknes Johansen, conducted a campaign aimed at
denying Christians the right to the practice of baptizing newborns.
Copyright Anarchist
Heldal-Lund's activities quickly spread from attacking the Christian
Church to attacking the Church of Scientology. As part of this hate
agenda, he willfully violated copyright laws and may have conspired
with others to do so.
The following documentation was sent to Religious Freedom Watch from
Norway.
On November 6, 1996, just prior to posting copyrighted materials on
the Internet, Andreas Heldal-Lund sent this email to a Norwegian
psychologist (and fellow member of the Heathen Society) stating that
he had retained the services of attorney Knut Vigeland:
"Lawyer Knut Vigeland in Oslo will take the thing. The action will
start on one of the next coming days. I will start working on a press
release now, if you have a very extensive and updated list with flux
numbers I would like to have a copy of that, or if someone can help
sending it out. Corrections and other proposals to the page are
appreciated, the address is temporarily [web address removed].
Regards Andreas Heldal-Lund."
On November 7, 1996, the day after hiring this attorney, Heldal-Lund
began posting Church of Scientology copyrighted materials on the
Internet.
Following are some of the parties whom Heldal-Lund contacted by email
on 20 November 1996 informing them of the details of his copyright
infringement plan:
Zenon Panoussis
Ron Newman
Dave Touretzky
William Barwell
Ted Mayett
Per Lundquist
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