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This was too good to pass up.
Recently, Bush supporters out here have been claiming that innocent
civilian deaths are inevitable in war but that the US doesn't
deliberately kill them. We have all seen the video of the US war
crimes at Abu Ghraib prison including murder and torture.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/11/29/iraq.abughraib/index.html
Republicans claimed that that was an aberration, too. We now know
different.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/12/15/aclu.pentagon/index.html
We have all seen the video of the marine murdering an innocent unarmed
man lying on the floor. Some claim this is an aberration, as though
the only time innocent people are killed is when the murderer is
caught. (Osprey has actually forwarded the idea that if you aren't
charged with a crime you never actually did the crime. That is, if
Peterson had killed his wife and dumped her in the ocean but never been
charged, he wouldn't have actually committed murder.)
Here is even more proof that the US is systemically murdering innocent
civilians in Iraq. This, of course, convinces the Muslim extremists
that Bush was serious about wanting a crusade and his desire to
eliminate the Muslim religion in favor of his own fanaticism,
Christianity.
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/F-16%20in%20Falluja.wmv
Civilians being murdered in mass by the United States, and there are
actually people out here who try to justify it. These are the hate
filled ignorant Bush supporters.
One hate filled Bush supporter is Gactimus. He provided the original
link to the murder with the following reaction:
BOOM!!!
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/F-16%20in%20Falluja.wmv
HAHAHAHA!!!
Then, Osprey offered this as condolences:
If it was illegal, why hasn't any charges been brought up?
Do you think it was legal for Saddam to ignore U.N. Sanctions for so
many years?
I only repeat this series of posts because I want everyone to see what
it takes to support the war and Bush.
These are the ignorant, hate filled Republicans that are currently
turning America into a hate motivated terrorist factory.
This is what the Republicans and Bush are so proud of. This is why the
middle east hates us and why terrorism is rampant.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_page1.htm
Hopefully, this is "only" another Vietnam. But it might be another
Holocaust with Bush playing the part of Hitler, and Osprey, Gactimus,
and other Republicans playing the part of the Nazi Party who claimed,
"we didn't know what was going on!"
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David W. Barnes wrote:
This was too good to pass up.
Recently, Bush supporters out here have been claiming that innocent
civilian deaths are inevitable in war but that the US doesn't
deliberately kill them. We have all seen the video of the US war
crimes at Abu Ghraib prison including murder and torture.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/11/29/iraq.abughraib/index.html
Republicans claimed that that was an aberration, too. We now know
different.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/12/15/aclu.pentagon/index.html
We have all seen the video of the marine murdering an innocent
unarmed
man lying on the floor. Some claim this is an aberration, as though
the only time innocent people are killed is when the murderer is
caught. (Osprey has actually forwarded the idea that if you aren't
charged with a crime you never actually did the crime. That is, if
Peterson had killed his wife and dumped her in the ocean but never
been
charged, he wouldn't have actually committed murder.)
Here is even more proof that the US is systemically murdering
innocent
civilians in Iraq. This, of course, convinces the Muslim extremists
that Bush was serious about wanting a crusade and his desire to
eliminate the Muslim religion in favor of his own fanaticism,
Christianity.
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/F-16%20in%20Falluja.wmv
Civilians being murdered in mass by the United States, and there are
actually people out here who try to justify it. These are the hate
filled ignorant Bush supporters.
One hate filled Bush supporter is Gactimus. He provided the original
link to the murder with the following reaction:
BOOM!!!
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/F-16%20in%20Falluja.wmv
HAHAHAHA!!!
Then, Osprey offered this as condolences:
If it was illegal, why hasn't any charges been brought up?
Do you think it was legal for Saddam to ignore U.N. Sanctions for so
many years?
I only repeat this series of posts because I want everyone to see
what
it takes to support the war and Bush.
These are the ignorant, hate filled Republicans that are currently
turning America into a hate motivated terrorist factory.
This is what the Republicans and Bush are so proud of. This is why
the
middle east hates us and why terrorism is rampant.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_page1.htm
Hopefully, this is "only" another Vietnam. But it might be another
Holocaust with Bush playing the part of Hitler, and Osprey, Gactimus,
and other Republicans playing the part of the Nazi Party who claimed,
"we didn't know what was going on!"
Are you one of those crazy jews who see an anti-semite around every
corner? If not, you sure as hell sound like one.
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In article <1103261603.183604.78530@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, J
Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
unarmed
been
innocent
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/F-16%20in%20Falluja.wmv
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/F-16%20in%20Falluja.wmv
what
the
Are you one of those crazy jews who see an anti-semite around every
corner? If not, you sure as hell sound like one.
Worry more about what you sound like and less about others. In fact,
that is good advice for all you morons on the Right.
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David W. Barnes wrote:
<snipped>
If it was illegal, why hasn't any charges been brought up?
I imagine that there may be, on down the road, when Psycho is out of
office and no longer a threat. I have a suspicion that no one wants to
bring him up on war crime charges while he commands the US military.
He's already demonstrated his willingness to kill large amounts of
foreigners.
But once he's out of office, they might.
Do you think it was legal for Saddam to ignore U.N. Sanctions for so
many years?
I only repeat this series of posts because I want everyone to see what
it takes to support the war and Bush.
These are the ignorant, hate filled Republicans that are currently
turning America into a hate motivated terrorist factory.
This is what the Republicans and Bush are so proud of. This is why the
middle east hates us and why terrorism is rampant.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_page1.htm
Hopefully, this is "only" another Vietnam. But it might be another
Holocaust with Bush playing the part of Hitler,
I don't think, sadly, that there's any "might be" involved. He will kill
as many as he can.
and Osprey, Gactimus,
and other Republicans playing the part of the Nazi Party who claimed,
"we didn't know what was going on!"
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
Hopefully, this is "only" another Vietnam. But it might be another
Holocaust with Bush playing the part of Hitler, and Osprey, Gactimus,
and other Republicans playing the part of the Nazi Party who claimed,
"we didn't know what was going on!"
Are you one of those crazy jews who see an anti-semite around every
corner?
Are you one of those bloodthirsty maniacs who wants only to kill
people? Rhetorical question. We already know that the answer is
"yes".
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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tell us something we dont know...
This was too good to pass up.
Recently, Bush supporters out here have been claiming that innocent
civilian deaths are inevitable in war but that the US doesn't
deliberately kill them. We have all seen the video of the US war
crimes at Abu Ghraib prison including murder and torture.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/11/29/iraq.abughraib/index.html
Republicans claimed that that was an aberration, too. We now know
different.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/12/15/aclu.pentagon/index.html
We have all seen the video of the marine murdering an innocent unarmed
man lying on the floor. Some claim this is an aberration, as though
the only time innocent people are killed is when the murderer is
caught. (Osprey has actually forwarded the idea that if you aren't
charged with a crime you never actually did the crime. That is, if
Peterson had killed his wife and dumped her in the ocean but never been
charged, he wouldn't have actually committed murder.)
Here is even more proof that the US is systemically murdering innocent
civilians in Iraq. This, of course, convinces the Muslim extremists
that Bush was serious about wanting a crusade and his desire to
eliminate the Muslim religion in favor of his own fanaticism,
Christianity.
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/F-16%20in%20Falluja.wmv
Civilians being murdered in mass by the United States, and there are
actually people out here who try to justify it. These are the hate
filled ignorant Bush supporters.
One hate filled Bush supporter is Gactimus. He provided the original
link to the murder with the following reaction:
BOOM!!!
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/F-16%20in%20Falluja.wmv
HAHAHAHA!!!
Then, Osprey offered this as condolences:
If it was illegal, why hasn't any charges been brought up?
Do you think it was legal for Saddam to ignore U.N. Sanctions for so
many years?
I only repeat this series of posts because I want everyone to see what
it takes to support the war and Bush.
These are the ignorant, hate filled Republicans that are currently
turning America into a hate motivated terrorist factory.
This is what the Republicans and Bush are so proud of. This is why the
middle east hates us and why terrorism is rampant.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_page1.htm
Hopefully, this is "only" another Vietnam. But it might be another
Holocaust with Bush playing the part of Hitler, and Osprey, Gactimus,
and other Republicans playing the part of the Nazi Party who claimed,
"we didn't know what was going on!"
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"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in
news:161220042052429306%spam@aol.com:
Here is even more proof that the US is systemically murdering innocent
civilians in Iraq. This, of course, convinces the Muslim extremists
that Bush was serious about wanting a crusade and his desire to
eliminate the Muslim religion in favor of his own fanaticism,
Christianity.
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/F-16%20in%20Falluja.wmv
Civilians being murdered in mass by the United States,
Prove the people killed in the video were civilians. I bet you can't.
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Gactimus wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in
news:161220042052429306%spam@aol.com:
Prove the people killed in the video were civilians. I bet you can't.
Do you have your proof they were terrorists handy?
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--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:32gbctF3mpltrU4@individual.net:
Gactimus wrote:
Do you have your proof they were terrorists handy?
We don't put soldiers on trial every time they kill someone. Only when the
people they kill can be proven to be innocent. You can't do that in this
case.
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Gactimus wrote:
--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:32gbctF3mpltrU4@individual.net:
We don't put soldiers on trial every time they kill someone.
That would be a "No, I can't prove they were terrorists".
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--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:32gg3uF3lknv5U6@individual.net:
Gactimus wrote:
That would be a "No, I can't prove they were terrorists".
So then prove they were civilians.
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In article <161220042052429306%spam@aol.com>, David W. Barnes
<spam@aol.com> wrote:
This was too good to pass up.
Recently, Bush supporters out here have been claiming that innocent
civilian deaths are inevitable in war but that the US doesn't
deliberately kill them. We have all seen the video of the US war
crimes at Abu Ghraib prison including murder and torture.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/11/29/iraq.abughraib/index.html
Republicans claimed that that was an aberration, too. We now know
different.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/12/15/aclu.pentagon/index.html
We have all seen the video of the marine murdering an innocent unarmed
man lying on the floor. Some claim this is an aberration, as though
the only time innocent people are killed is when the murderer is
caught. (Osprey has actually forwarded the idea that if you aren't
charged with a crime you never actually did the crime. That is, if
Peterson had killed his wife and dumped her in the ocean but never been
charged, he wouldn't have actually committed murder.)
Here is even more proof that the US is systemically murdering innocent
civilians in Iraq. This, of course, convinces the Muslim extremists
that Bush was serious about wanting a crusade and his desire to
eliminate the Muslim religion in favor of his own fanaticism,
Christianity.
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/F-16%20in%20Falluja.wmv
Civilians being murdered in mass by the United States, and there are
actually people out here who try to justify it. These are the hate
filled ignorant Bush supporters.
One hate filled Bush supporter is Gactimus. He provided the original
link to the murder with the following reaction:
BOOM!!!
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/F-16%20in%20Falluja.wmv
HAHAHAHA!!!
Then, Osprey offered this as condolences:
If it was illegal, why hasn't any charges been brought up?
Do you think it was legal for Saddam to ignore U.N. Sanctions for so
many years?
I only repeat this series of posts because I want everyone to see what
it takes to support the war and Bush.
These are the ignorant, hate filled Republicans that are currently
turning America into a hate motivated terrorist factory.
This is what the Republicans and Bush are so proud of. This is why the
middle east hates us and why terrorism is rampant.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_page1.htm
Hopefully, this is "only" another Vietnam. But it might be another
Holocaust with Bush playing the part of Hitler, and Osprey, Gactimus,
and other Republicans playing the part of the Nazi Party who claimed,
"we didn't know what was going on!"
Between that and the ruined economy, we are getting exactly what we
deserve!
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In article <1103305612.9c48c11f4bf481fda548faea756185a8@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:32gg3uF3lknv5U6@individual.net:
So then prove they were civilians.
Is that the standard you fascists use now? Blow people up and then
afterword ask more responsible people to prove they were civilians?
Look at the video. Listen to the audio. No one says they are military
- no one cared. I have been over there. The only people who run in
groups like we saw on that video are women and their children. They
huddle together because they are scared. Military people don't run in
groups because someone may drop a bomb on them. Next time you see
video of fighting on the news, take a look at how Iraqi's run. It is
considered to me unmanly for men to run in groups like that. That was
clearly a group of women, probably with their children and babies.
Furthermore, the rules of engagement require it be determined that
their is a known target before engagement. Here it is clear the pilot
did not know who it was. Just people, women and children, probably.
You claim the killings were justified. So justify it. Simply killing
everything in sight and then asking afterword if they were civilians
may be your version of how the U.S. Military works, and it may be
Bush's. But, at least in the past, it wasn't America's.
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In article <1103294412.4900dfd00395533e754e0d426e050e90@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in
news:161220042052429306%spam@aol.com:
Prove the people killed in the video were civilians. I bet you can't.
That isn't our job. Prove they legitimate targets. Bet you can't.
Are all you fascists as irresponsible as you? Did you get a hard on
when you saw those women and children killed? The pilot sure seemed
to. You are exactly why people hate our country and why terrorism is
so prevalent. You have proven to be a sadistic asshole, and this is no
different. I bet you wish you could have been their to see those
people's arms and legs come off. I'll you would have loved to see
those women and children blow to shreds. As you say, you sick @$#*,
"Boom! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"
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In article <1103305612.9c48c11f4bf481fda548faea756185a8@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
Is that the standard you fascists use now? Blow people up and then
afterword ask more responsible people to prove they were civilians?
Look at the video. Listen to the audio. No one says they are military
- no one cared. I have been over there. The only people who run in
groups like we saw on that video are women and their children.
Those people aren't running.
They
huddle together because they are scared.
They're not huddled together.
Military people don't run in
groups because someone may drop a bomb on them.
They're grouped together because they've just left their safe house together
and they're heading for the same destination, some other place nearby where
they think the'll be safe.. They think they're safe because they're on
their home turf.
Do you think school was in session in Fallujah? Maybe they're nuns
escorting little orphans?
Doofus.
Next time you see
video of fighting on the news, take a look at how Iraqi's run. It is
considered to be unmanly for men to run in groups like that. That was
clearly a group of women, probably with their children and babies.
Furthermore, the rules of engagement require it be determined that
their is a known target before engagement. Here it is clear the pilot
did not know who it was. Just people, women and children, probably.
You claim the killings were justified. So justify it. Simply killing
everything in sight and then asking afterword if they were civilians
may be your version of how the U.S. Military works, and it may be
Bush's. But, at least in the past, it wasn't America's.
You have no idea what the intel background on this action was.
We should have carpet-bombed Fallujah after those Americans were murdered
and mutilated earlier in the year.
But then, I'm not in charge.
Regards, PLMerite
--
"If you rub it in both at home and abroad that you are ready for instant
war... and intend to be first in and hit your enemy in the belly and kick
him when he is down and boil your prisoners in oil (if you take any)... and
torture his women and children, then people will keep clear of you."
Vice Admiral Sir John Fisher, Royal Navy, 1898.
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Gactimus wrote:
--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:32gg3uF3lknv5U6@individual.net:
So then prove they were civilians.
Burden of proof is on the guy that posted a thread labeled "US Missile
Takes Out **TERRORIST** mob." Prove your own damn point first.
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PLMerite wrote:
Those people aren't running.
They are running.
They're not huddled together.
They are not only huddled together, but one or two of them appear to be
holding onto a second, smaller person.
They're grouped together because they've just left their safe house together
and they're heading for the same destination,
Which is the kind of brilliant thing guerrillas do, run out in a group
with bombers overhead, instead of the smarter course of splitting up and
going different directions.
<SARCASM- ask for it by name>
some other place nearby where
they think the'll be safe. They think they're safe because they're on
their home turf.
You said it. THEIR HOME turf.
Do you think school was in session in Fallujah? Maybe they're nuns
escorting little orphans?
Doofus.
You have no idea what the intel background on this action was.
Neither do you. He's right- the pilot did not know who it was, and was
clearly just looking for a body count.
We should have carpet-bombed Fallujah after those Americans were murdered
and mutilated earlier in the year.
But then, I'm not in charge.
Regards, PLMerite
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Elmo <anto@sales.com> wrote in news:171220041016357860%anto@sales.com:
In article <1103305612.9c48c11f4bf481fda548faea756185a8@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
Is that the standard you fascists use now? Blow people up and then
afterword ask more responsible people to prove they were civilians?
Look at the video. Listen to the audio. No one says they are military
- no one cared.
Maybe because you didn't see the whole thing or the context.
I have been over there. The only people who run in
groups like we saw on that video are women and their children. They
huddle together because they are scared. Military people don't run in
groups because someone may drop a bomb on them. Next time you see
video of fighting on the news, take a look at how Iraqi's run. It is
considered to me unmanly for men to run in groups like that. That was
clearly a group of women, probably with their children and babies.
Sorry. You'll have to do better than that.
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--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:32gsteF3h8j94U3@individual.net:
Gactimus wrote:
Burden of proof is on the guy that posted a thread labeled "US Missile
Takes Out **TERRORIST** mob." Prove your own damn point first.
Lack of proof noted.
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Gactimus wrote:
--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:32gsteF3h8j94U3@individual.net:
Lack of proof noted.
Indeed it is. Your lack of proof is noted.
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--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:32gtemF3mbmvoU1@individual.net:
PLMerite wrote:
They are not only huddled together, but one or two of them appear to be
holding onto a second, smaller person.
You're an idiot.
Military people don't run in
groups because someone may drop a bomb on them.
They're grouped together because they've just left their safe house
together and they're heading for the same destination,
Which is the kind of brilliant thing guerrillas do, run out in a group
with bombers overhead, instead of the smarter course of splitting up and
going different directions.
<SARCASM- ask for it by name>
some other place nearby where
You said it. THEIR HOME turf.
Better than our home turf, eh?
Do you think school was in session in Fallujah? Maybe they're nuns
escorting little orphans?
Doofus.
Next time you see
video of fighting on the news, take a look at how Iraqi's run. It is
considered to be unmanly for men to run in groups like that. That was
clearly a group of women, probably with their children and babies.
Furthermore, the rules of engagement require it be determined that
their is a known target before engagement. Here it is clear the pilot
did not know who it was. Just people, women and children, probably.
You claim the killings were justified. So justify it. Simply killing
everything in sight and then asking afterword if they were civilians
may be your version of how the U.S. Military works, and it may be
Bush's. But, at least in the past, it wasn't America's.
You have no idea what the intel background on this action was.
Neither do you. He's right- the pilot did not know who it was, and was
clearly just looking for a body count.
Pilots don't drop bombs on crowds they know are civilians, moron.
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Elmo <anto@sales.com> wrote in news:171220041016357860%anto@sales.com:
Maybe because you didn't see the whole thing or the context.
No, they saw what they want to see. People like Elmo want to see and
believe civilians are dying because it helps promote their agenda, although
no one is really paying their agenda much attention.
Our troops are over their risking their lives, doing a mission. An
important mission.
And all they can do is sit back and be armchair wanna be experts.
Sorry. You'll have to do better than that.
Yea he will, that excuse was utter bull#@($.
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In article <1103305612.9c48c11f4bf481fda548faea756185a8@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
Is that the standard you fascists use now? Blow people up and then
afterword ask more responsible people to prove they were civilians?
Look at the video. Listen to the audio. No one says they are military
- no one cared. I have been over there. The only people who run in
groups like we saw on that video are women and their children. They
huddle together because they are scared. Military people don't run in
groups because someone may drop a bomb on them. Next time you see
video of fighting on the news, take a look at how Iraqi's run. It is
considered to me unmanly for men to run in groups like that. That was
clearly a group of women, probably with their children and babies.
Furthermore, the rules of engagement require it be determined that
their is a known target before engagement. Here it is clear the pilot
did not know who it was. Just people, women and children, probably.
You claim the killings were justified. So justify it. Simply killing
everything in sight and then asking afterword if they were civilians
may be your version of how the U.S. Military works, and it may be
Bush's. But, at least in the past, it wasn't America's.
But, at least in the past, it wasn't America's.
In the tradition of Rocky, and other great movies, the US govt now brings
you Vietnam 2(The Irak conflict)!!!
all the blood and gore you saw last time, with high tech weapons.
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Gactimus wrote:
--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:32gtemF3mbmvoU1@individual.net:
You're an idiot.
Great comeback. Lack of contrary evidence noted.
Even better, some of the figures are indistinct, but others are visibly
wearing burqas.
Military people don't run in
groups because someone may drop a bomb on them.
They're grouped together because they've just left their safe house
together and they're heading for the same destination,
Better than our home turf, eh?
Equally bad places to be fighting.
Do you think school was in session in Fallujah? Maybe they're nuns
escorting little orphans?
Doofus.
Next time you see
video of fighting on the news, take a look at how Iraqi's run. It is
considered to be unmanly for men to run in groups like that. That was
clearly a group of women, probably with their children and babies.
Furthermore, the rules of engagement require it be determined that
their is a known target before engagement. Here it is clear the pilot
did not know who it was. Just people, women and children, probably.
You claim the killings were justified. So justify it. Simply killing
everything in sight and then asking afterword if they were civilians
may be your version of how the U.S. Military works, and it may be
Bush's. But, at least in the past, it wasn't America's.
You have no idea what the intel background on this action was.
Pilots don't drop bombs on crowds they know are civilians, moron.
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/mylai/MYL_uscma.htm
http://www.mytelus.com/news/article.do?articleID=1790612&pageID=world_archive
What would be your proof of that?
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In article <32gtemF3mbmvoU1@individual.net>, --sexkitten--
<ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
PLMerite wrote:
They are running.
It's amazing, isn't it, what Republicans are willing to believe in
order to justify their hate?
They are not only huddled together, but one or two of them appear to be
holding onto a second, smaller person.
I have no doubt they were women with their children.
Which is the kind of brilliant thing guerrillas do, run out in a group
with bombers overhead, instead of the smarter course of splitting up and
going different directions.
<SARCASM- ask for it by name>
some other place nearby where
You said it. THEIR HOME turf.
Neither do you. He's right- the pilot did not know who it was, and was
clearly just looking for a body count.
And in the end, like Gactimus and others on the Right, he just laughed.
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In article <asKdnYS6z7iu3F7cRVn-rQ@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
No, they saw what they want to see.
That would be you. What makes you think they weren't civilians? The
pilot seemed to think they were.
People like Elmo want to see and
believe civilians are dying because it helps promote their agenda, although
no one is really paying their agenda much attention.
Anyone who believes those weren't civilians is not only stupid, they
are full of bigotry and hate. The pilot didn't know if they were
military. He murdered them. Pure and simple.
Our troops are over their risking their lives, doing a mission. An
important mission.
Killing innocent people, apparently.
And all they can do is sit back and be armchair wanna be experts.
Not like you, right? The one who the military, even though they are
unbelievably hard up for troops, even more hard up than the Delaware
Corrections System, don't want you back?\
Maybe the National Guard would take you?
http://www.dailymail.com/news/News/2004121718/
Yea he will, that excuse was utter bull#@($.
Great argument. Sorry, but, he won.
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
--sexkitten--
We don't put soldiers on trial every time they kill someone. Only when the
people they kill can be proven to be innocent. You can't do that in this
case.
Terrorists always have some justification for killing.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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Elmo wrote:
In article <1103305612.9c48c11f4bf481fda548faea756185a8@bubbanews>,
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote:
Is that the standard you fascists use now? Blow people up and then
afterword ask more responsible people to prove they were civilians?
Look at the video. Listen to the audio. No one says they are military
- no one cared.
No one said they weren't, either.
I have been over there. The only people who run in
groups like we saw on that video are women and their children. They
huddle together because they are scared.
Oh really? And what were these so-called women and children in the video
scared of?
Military people don't run in groups because someone may drop a bomb on them.
The military moves in groups. As we've seen in Iraq, you do not want to
be separated from the group (Jessica Lynch, et al)
Next time you see
video of fighting on the news, take a look at how Iraqi's run. It is
considered to me unmanly for men to run in groups like that. That was
clearly a group of women, probably with their children and babies.
There is absolutely no indication whatsoever that was any ground fire
taking place in that video. Your conclusion is baseless.
Furthermore, the rules of engagement require it be determined that
their is a known target before engagement. Here it is clear the pilot
did not know who it was.
They don't need to identify the people.
Just people, women and children, probably.
It's equally as probable they were armed Iraqis moving to ambush an
American force.
You claim the killings were justified. So justify it. Simply killing
everything in sight and then asking afterword if they were civilians
may be your version of how the U.S. Military works, and it may be
Bush's. But, at least in the past, it wasn't America's.
Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and Berlin prove otherwise.
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"David W. Barnes" wrote:
This was too good to pass up.
Recently, Bush supporters out here have been claiming that innocent
civilian deaths are inevitable in war but that the US doesn't
deliberately kill them. We have all seen the video of the US war
crimes at Abu Ghraib prison including murder and torture.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/11/29/iraq.abughraib/index.html
Republicans claimed that that was an aberration, too. We now know
different.
You are a hack, obviously.
American soldiers did what was right and brought to light and to justice
those who were abusing prisoners.
Yet Leftists, being moral degenerates, cannot seem to focus on terrorists
hacking the heads off of charity workers and instead consistently work to
condemn the American soldier.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/12/15/aclu.pentagon/index.html
We have all seen the video of the marine murdering an innocent unarmed
man lying on the floor. Some claim this is an aberration,
http://mynym.blogspot.com/2004/11/journalists.html
You witless wonders believe everything you read in the Old Press and it
plays right into the bloody hands of terrorists.
Ask Iraqis,
http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com//
<snip>
Here is even more proof that the US is systemically murdering innocent
civilians in Iraq. This, of course, convinces the Muslim extremists
that Bush was serious about wanting a crusade and his desire to
eliminate the Muslim religion in favor of his own fanaticism,
Christianity.
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/F-16%20in%20Falluja.wmv
Dear reader, what this and other moral degenerates who attack the American
soldier are NOT telling you are the stories of American soldiers being
killed going into Fallujah to warn all civilians to leave.
Now, a crowd of men in the street, I am sure they were all innocent! At
least that is what this mental midget will try to say.
Civilians being murdered in mass by the United States,
That's propaganda.
No better than Islamists....
You want to know why terrorist keep hacking off the heads of charity workers
and so on? It's the propaganda they see and believe, nit wit. Propaganda
like what you write.
<snip>
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_page1.htm
Hopefully, this is "only" another Vietnam. But it might be another
Holocaust with Bush playing the part of Hitler, and Osprey, Gactimus,
and other Republicans playing the part of the Nazi Party who claimed,
"we didn't know what was going on!"
http://mynym.blogspot.com/2004/11/nazism.html
History does not quite match this propaganda piece you put together here, as
a stupid degenerate. Why do you think that is?
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--W
http://mynym.blogspot.com/
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C.J.W. <watt2020@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" wrote:
This was too good to pass up.
Recently, Bush supporters out here have been claiming that innocent
civilian deaths are inevitable in war but that the US doesn't
deliberately kill them. We have all seen the video of the US war
crimes at Abu Ghraib prison including murder and torture.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/11/29/iraq.abughraib/index.html
Republicans claimed that that was an aberration, too. We now know
different.
You are a hack, obviously.
American soldiers did what was right and brought to light and to justice
those who were abusing prisoners.
That's why there are still hundreds of people rotting in prison after
three years just because the Bush regime wants them there.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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--sexkitten-- <ladyhawk_two_nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:32h5juF3j2mr3U1@individual.net:
Gactimus wrote:
Great comeback. Lack of contrary evidence noted.
Even better, some of the figures are indistinct, but others are visibly
wearing burqas.
Equally bad places to be fighting.
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/mylai/MYL_uscma.htm
http://www.mytelus.com/news/article.do?articleID=1790612&pageID=world_arc
hive
What would be your proof of that?
Both times the law was broken and both times they were tried for their
crimes.
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