In one e-mail, the writer described seeing a "detainee sitting on the
floor of the interview room with an Israeli flag draped around him,
loud music being played and a strobe light flashing."

In one e-mail, the writer described seeing a "detainee sitting on the
floor of the interview room with an Israeli flag draped around him,
loud music being played and a strobe light flashing."
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/12/21/guantanamo.interrogation.ap/index.html

In one e-mail, the writer described seeing a "detainee sitting on the
floor of the interview room with an Israeli flag draped around him,
loud music being played and a strobe light flashing."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/12/21/guantanamo.interrogation.ap/index.html

David W. Barnes wrote or quoted :

They are not interrogating in the usual sense, to gain information.
They are browbeating people into signing false confessions to use for
propaganda.
"Never in human history have such genocide and cruelty been witnessed.
Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor of Hitler
nor of Mussolini."
~ Mehmet Elkatmi, head of Turkish parliament's human rights commission
on Bush's atrocities in the Iraq war.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
See http://mindprod.com/iraq.html photos of Bush's war crimes

David W. Barnes wrote:

Did we cut off his head?
That would be torture!!!

"David W. Barnes" wrote:
If they ever capture a suicide bomber I'd love to see the guy forcably
bathed in pig's blood. That would be...... kinda funny, frankly.

In one e-mail, the writer described seeing a "detainee sitting on the
floor of the interview room with an Israeli flag draped around him,
loud music being played and a strobe light flashing."

On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:31:48 GMT,
Roedy Green <look-on@mindprod.com.invalid> wrote:
[ ... ]
In one e-mail, the writer described seeing a "detainee sitting
on the floor of the interview room with an Israeli flag draped
around him, loud music being played and a strobe light flashing."
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/12/21/guantanamo.interrogation.ap/index.html
Precisely! Just think -- only a few years ago, the world
ADMIRED America, and looked up to us as THE definitive
bastion of freedom and fairness. Today, most of the world very
sensibly and intelligently LOATHES us as a warmongering nation
it can no longer trust -- and one that no longer gives a flying rat's
ass for personal liberties.

In electing Bush to another term to follow the one he stole 4
years earlier, Americans have lost the right to be the least bit
critical of what the Germans did for Hitler in the mid-'30s.

Here we go again, folks. Only this time, it's US.
With NO powerful ally of freedom waiting in the wings to set
things right again.
The world only THOUGHT it was in trouble 65 years ago.
The COMING troubles it faces may look like a Sunday school
picnic by comparison.
For those who think that may be an extreme view... saying the
same thing in Europe 70 years ago would have been regarded in
that same light.
Those who forget (and disregard the lessons of) history are
doomed to repeat it. With the election of 2004, 51% of Americans
may have laid the groundwork for unspeakable horror that can
wrack the entire world.
The best (and possibly only) way to avert that is for America's
egalitarians, and the rest of the world, to THWART Bush's agendas
at every possible opportunity, by all LEGAL means possible.

-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Every time a person supports bigotry in public, and presents NO
relevant FACTS to back his/her stance in behalf of a loathsome
agenda against individual liberties and human rights, that person
has -- ironically -- further **damaged** the cause he/she supports.
And every time a fair-minded and sensible egalitarian opposes
such a bigot, publicly, and **presents** relevant FACTS that are
damaging to the bigot's agenda, that TOO is an additional nail in
the coffin lid of the agenda, and a push of that casket CLOSER
to the Drain of Extinction -- its well-deserved ultimate destination.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
(E-Mail address is valid when removing _ from it.)

"David W. Barnes" wrote:
If they ever capture a suicide bomber I'd love to see the guy forcably
bathed in pig's blood. That would be...... kinda funny, frankly.

"David W. Barnes" <spam@aol.com> wrote in message
news:211220042026215390%spam@aol.com...
Did we cut off his head?
That would be torture!!!

David W. Barnes wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/12/21/guantanamo.interrogation.ap/index.html
Here is more information that the ACLU has gained through Freedom of
Information Act requests, AFTER the courts forced the government to
obey the law. And the courts are still needed to get the government to
obey the law. If this information had come out 6 or more months ago
like it should have (the request is over a year old, and the says that
it needs to be fulfilled within 30 days), Bush would have never been
elected again. All the release dates are AFTER the election. Perhaps
Bush had instructed them to stall for time so he could get re-elected,
since there was no way that the government could win that suit.
http://www.aclu.org/torturefoia
http://www.aclu.org/torturefoia/released/doa.html

In article <1103728392.218854.128320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
Mark Sebree <sebree@infionline.net> wrote:
I don't get it. According to Republicans, this kind of thing NEVER
happens. We don't torture! We don't target innocent civilians! We
don't murder! We are the good guys. I mean, could it be the Bush
Administration is LYING to us?

David W. Barnes wrote:
Of course they are lying to us. Bush has been running a very secretive
administration from day one. They have consitantly resisted and
ignored Freedom of Information Act requests for as long as possible.
And the Republicans in Congress are showing themselves to be hipocrits
as well. They are complaining about Democrats doing their jobs and
blocking less than a dozen of Bush's most extremist judicial nominees,
when the Republicans blocked about 1/3 of Clinton's nominees. What's
more, during the 17 months that the Democrats controlled the Senate
under Bush, they approved over 100 nominees, almost 6 per month, an
extremely rapid pace. Republicans ran smear campaigns against
Democratic opponents and lied about them in the last election because
the Democrats did their jobs, and refused to "rubber stamp" the
Republicans' poor choices.
The Republicans are also ignoring rules that they have used in the past
when they were in the minority in Congress in order to get their way.
The filibuster is the last line of defense that the Democrats have
against a Republican majority that refuses to compromise and discuss
matters. Orrin Hatch actually endorsed the filibuster when he needed
it, and now he is railing against it.
It seems that the Republicans only want their way, and do not care
about anyone else. They are becoming an extremist party. Hopefully,
enough Americans will wake up to this fact and vote many of them out of
office before too much damage is done to this country.
Could the Bush Administration and the Republicans in Congress be lying
to us? Of course they are lying to us. That is what Republicans do
when they are in power. And they are showing that they are truly
hypocrits as well.
Republicans seem to have short memories, and have no interest in the
facts. They only are interested in oppression and taking away our
rights.
Mark Sebree