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Theodore A. Kaldis wrote:
"forevernitefan" wrote: (Unlike some, I have never been asked to submit to a psychological examination.) But bear in mind: "For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known. Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops." [Luke 12:2-3, KJV] Those who have conspired against Cameron Brown should take heed. For if they wear the mantle of justice, they have conspired also against God. And they SHALL SURELY be recompensed for their deeds. "There is nothing hid, except that it should be manifested, nor anything kept secret except that it should come abroad." The mouth of the Lord has spoken it, and it shall SURELY come to pass.
Now, Ted's hearing voices on the #@($ter. He's gone completely stark, raving mad!!! Honestly, Ted, I've never seen *anyone* in more desperate need of *IMMEDIATE* psychiatric care than you are now.
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Theodore A. Kaldis wrote:
"forevernitefan" wrote: (As, moreover, will also be revealed the identity of the individual who currently calls himself "S.O. Damocles".) Stand and watch.
I hope you find him -- I'm rather looking forward to buying him a beer. :)
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Theodore A. Kaldis wrote:
"forevernitefan" wrote: Contrary to your peurile imaginations, USENET is not the center of the universe (except perhaps for Ken Smith). Whatever I know, I have also given to Mark Geragos. And he's not moving with it just yet, so I'm keeping mum for now. (And it has NOTHING to do with "satan worshippers" or anything of the like.) For crying out loud, a man's LIFE hangs in the balance here! What makes you think I can't restrain myself?
Given the stakes, we've all been asking why you *HAVEN'T* restrained yourself -- even after the lead attorney in the case *told you* to shut the @$#* up. [snip] Claims of cover-ups and trying discredit expert witnesses testimony are typical responses of people who for one reason or another think the accused is innocent.
I, on the other hand, KNOW that Cameron is innocent.
God told him so -- on the #@($ter. Or just maybe, Ted found the man Cam was having wild gay sex with at the time. Simply put, there is no way Ted could KNOW that Cam was innocent, unless he was there. The little girl was small enough to be pushed or thrown off the cliff and nitpicking as to which one is redundant,
It isn't that it would be "redundant", but rather would be UNAVAILING (to use a word that we have seen used elsewhere within the past year and a half), IF ONLY your following conditional were to hold -- which in this case DOESN'T.
More like it is unnecessary to quibble about it, as even you have said that she went down the cliff head-first. That makes it more likely that *Cam* was the cause, as opposed to Lauren merely slipping and falling on her backside. if Cam INTENDED the girl to fall and die.
I'd like to see how the prosecution proposes to show intent -- because their case centers EXCLUSIVELY on the circumstances of the event -- and some of them have even been made up, apparently. Look elsewhere -- beyond the LIES that they have disseminated -- and a completely different picture emerges.
That's easy. It's quite simply the perfect place and time to kill your illegitimate four-year-old daughter ... and make it look like an accident. That's enough for reasonable people. I read true crime books and people kill for the stupidest of reasons.
In his case, he had ABSOLUTELY no reason -- and even less desire -- to kill anyone, let alone his own lovely daughter whom he loved dearly.
Break out the violins! If Cam had the idea in his head at the time that the little girl death could be seen as accidental, he might have given in to his urge to shove or toss her off the cliff.
Except that he had NO such "urge". HE DID NOT! This is a vicious LIE!
Ted said it and you should believe it, and that settles it, Moe! ;) and I suspect that the reason he became a suspect was because of his behavior afterwards that the cops observed.
That had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with it. There are other factors at play here, which we won't go into right now.
That wasn't what the detective was saying to the press....
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Ken Smith wrote:
Theodore A. Kaldis wrote: Given the stakes, we've all been asking why you *HAVEN'T* restrained yourself -- even after the lead attorney in the case *told you* to shut the @$#* up.
If you only knew the complete scope of this, you would know ... Claims of cover-ups and trying discredit expert witnesses testimony are typical responses of people who for one reason or another think the accused is innocent. I, on the other hand, KNOW that Cameron is innocent.
God told him so -- on the #@($ter.
No. I know Cam, and I know how much he loved his daughter.
Or just maybe, Ted found the man Cam was having wild gay sex with at the time.
Whack-job Ken Smith is out in left field again -- as usual.
Simply put, there is no way Ted could KNOW that Cam was innocent, unless he was there.
Come on, Ken. They even had to manufacture the "evidence" against Cam. The little girl was small enough to be pushed or thrown off the cliff and nitpicking as to which one is redundant, It isn't that it would be "redundant", but rather would be UNAVAILING (to use a word that we have seen used elsewhere within the past year and a half), IF ONLY your following conditional were to hold -- which in this case DOESN'T.
More like it is unnecessary to quibble about it, as even you have said that she went down the cliff head-first. That makes it more likely that *Cam* was the cause, as opposed to Lauren merely slipping and falling on her backside.
She slipped and fell FORWARD, with forward momentum. if Cam INTENDED the girl to fall and die. I'd like to see how the prosecution proposes to show intent -- because their case centers EXCLUSIVELY on the circumstances of the event -- and some of them have even been made up, apparently. Look elsewhere -- beyond the LIES that they have disseminated -- and a completely different picture emerges.
That's easy.
It's easier said than done.
It's quite simply the perfect place and time to kill your illegitimate four-year-old daughter ... and make it look like an accident.
But this STILL focuses only on the CIRCUMSTANCES. And moreover, it ISN'T the "perfect" place -- with other people around -- or time (daytime).
That's enough for reasonable people.
That's FAR from "enough" for reasonable people, when the hear about all the other background issues -- EVERY ONE OF WHICH evince against a crime. I read true crime books and people kill for the stupidest of reasons. In his case, he had ABSOLUTELY no reason -- and even less desire -- to kill anyone, let alone his own lovely daughter whom he loved dearly.
Break out the violins!
Ken obviously has a taste for string music. Like Beethoven? Might I recommend the _Beethoven:_Complete_String_Quartets_ Box Set by Quartetto Italiano? At $79.98 for a 10-disc set, it's a veritable bargain. Or if you enjoy Cajun music, you might try Michael Doucet and Beausoliel. As for Country Fiddlers, there are many: Chubby Wise, Johnny Gimble, Benny Martin, Kenny Baker, Vassar Clements, etc. As Australian Paul "Pixie" Jenkins once told me, there is no shortage of country fiddlers, even in Australia. If Cam had the idea in his head at the time that the little girl death could be seen as accidental, he might have given in to his urge to shove or toss her off the cliff. Except that he had NO such "urge". He had motives to want the girl dead, HE DID NOT! This is a vicious LIE!
Ted said it and you should believe it, and that settles it, Moe! ;)
But of course, it's much more compelling when the Orange County Court Record of Orange County Family Court says it -- as it does! and I suspect that the reason he became a suspect was because of his behavior afterwards that the cops observed. That had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with it. There are other factors at play here, which we won't go into right now.
That wasn't what the detective was saying to the press ...
Yeah, well, there are lots of things you read in the press that you shouldn't believe. -- Theodore A. Kaldis kaldis@worldnet.att.net
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Theodore A. Kaldis wrote:
Ken Smith wrote: If you only knew the complete scope of this, you would know ...
It's hard to fathom corruption much worse than the kind I am facing -- judges knowingly ignoring ironclad precedent precisely on-point, writing their own "designer law," applying to me and ONLY me! -- but you express nothing but glee and delight at this. As you've said repeatedly, that's the way the world works, and if it's not worth getting excited about in my case, it surely isn't worth getting worked up about with respect to Cam. Claims of cover-ups and trying discredit expert witnesses testimony are typical responses of people who for one reason or another think the accused is innocent. I, on the other hand, KNOW that Cameron is innocent. God told him so -- on the #@($ter.
No. I know Cam, and I know how much he loved his daughter.
IOW, you don't *KNOW* anything. Or just maybe, Ted found the man Cam was having wild gay sex with at the time.
Whack-job Ken Smith is out in left field again -- as usual.
It would be an effective and plausible alibi. ;)
Come on, Ken. They even had to manufacture the "evidence" against Cam.
You've been on about this for months, but you've yet to come forward with any evidence to support your claim. On the face of it, they have enough evidence to indict: By his own admission, Cam was there, and no one else was.
The little girl was small enough to be pushed or thrown off the cliff and nitpicking as to which one is redundant, It isn't that it would be "redundant", but rather would be UNAVAILING (to use a word that we have seen used elsewhere within the past year and a half), IF ONLY your following conditional were to hold -- which in this case DOESN'T. She slipped and fell FORWARD, with forward momentum.
Which is unlikely on its face, given the presence of a doting father disinclined to expose her to unnecessary danger. It is far more likely that she was impelled in some manner by Cam. That's enough to indict, if not necessarily enough to convict. It's positively damning. if Cam INTENDED the girl to fall and die. I'd like to see how the prosecution proposes to show intent -- because their case centers EXCLUSIVELY on the circumstances of the event -- and some of them have even been made up, apparently. Look elsewhere -- beyond the LIES that they have disseminated -- and a completely different picture emerges. That's easy.
It's easier said than done. But this STILL focuses only on the CIRCUMSTANCES. And moreover, it ISN'T the "perfect" place -- with other people around -- or time (daytime).
And your witnesses are? Come on, Ted! If he pushes her -- and it doesn't have to be that hard -- no one is going to notice unless he or she has binoculars trained on them at the time. And we're talking about a weekday in November -- not exactly the prime hiking season in SoCal. (Best time to do Disneyland, btw -- ZERO lines.) That's enough for reasonable people.
That's FAR from "enough" for reasonable people, when the hear about all the other background issues -- EVERY ONE OF WHICH evince against a crime.
Seems that the reasonable people here in this NG can reasonably beg to differ with you there. I'm not saying that there wouldn't be reasonable doubt in my mind, but vis-a-vis unjust incarceration, it's enough that a reasonable person could find for the State (you can't rely on me, as you think I'm manifestly unreasonable ;) ). I read true crime books and people kill for the stupidest of reasons. In his case, he had ABSOLUTELY no reason -- and even less desire -- to kill anyone, let alone his own lovely daughter whom he loved dearly. Break out the violins!
Ken obviously has a taste for string music.
Cry me a river, Ted! Everyone else agrees that it is quite possible that Cam killed her, even though the more unreasonable among us seem to think that there is reasonable doubt on that score. And under the law, whether for good or ill, we lock these suspects up. If Cam had the idea in his head at the time that the little girl death could be seen as accidental, he might have given in to his urge to shove or toss her off the cliff. Except that he had NO such "urge". He had motives to want the girl dead,
HE DID NOT! This is a vicious LIE! But of course, it's much more compelling when the Orange County Court Record of Orange County Family Court says it -- as it does!
And the Court actually had reason to state on the record that Cam had no motive to want Lauren dead?! They are not making that statement; you are drawing that inference. It is valuable as evidence, but hardly what you could call conclusive. and I suspect that the reason he became a suspect was because of his behavior afterwards that the cops observed. That had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with it. There are other factors at play here, which we won't go into right now. That wasn't what the detective was saying to the press ...
Yeah, well, there are lots of things you read in the press that you shouldn't believe.
Ditto, the pronouncements of a court. See, e.g., Professor D'Amato's take on the Branion murder case.
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