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I see that on Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:23:16 -0800, "Theodore A. Kaldis" <kaldis@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Ken Smith wrote: Not any that you would know about, at least.
So tell us, what IS the motivation? I can't think of any reason for anyone in the LASD and/or the DA's office to conspire with anyone to frame Cameron. If you *know* why, please enlighten me, if no one else. Kent -- When the world ends, there'll be no more air. That's why it's important to pollute the air now. Before it's too late. :)
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Kent Wills wrote:
I see that on Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:23:16 -0800, "Theodore A. Kaldis" <kaldis@worldnet.att.net> wrote: So tell us, what IS the motivation? I can't think of any reason for anyone in the LASD and/or the DA's office to conspire with anyone to frame Cameron. If you *know* why, please enlighten me, if no one else.
In my case, I can understand what might have happened. A few shekels may well have made their way from Larson's love offerings into certain pockets. Or, the Bar might not be entirely happy to have a principled whistleblower in its midst. But in my case, the official misconduct is clear and undeniable. When judges admit the very fact that guarantees my right to relief, but deny me relief, it is indisputable that someone is putting a finger on the scales of justice. But why Cam Brown? I can't even come up with a scenario in which it would make sense for anyone to "frame" a complete nobody like Cam Brown. A busted drug deal (or situations related to similar criminal conduct) doesn't make sense, because he could start singing like Beverly Sills. There doesn't seem to be any conceivable reason why state officials would frame a friggin' stevedore for no reason whatsoever. I'm sure this one is a figment of Ted's psychotic imagination -- and the cacophony of "godly" voices he hears in his head whilst sitting on the #@($ter. :)
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Ken Smith wrote:
I can't even come up with a scenario in which it would make sense for anyone to "frame" a complete nobody like Cam Brown.
It's not something that's readily apparent. And you have virtually NOTHING to work with. It took me months of investigation before I finally figured it all out. And one day, I should be able to tell you what it is. -- Theodore A. Kaldis kaldis@worldnet.att.net
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Theodore A. Kaldis wrote:
Ken Smith wrote: It's not something that's readily apparent.
It's not something that is even readily conceivable.
And you have virtually NOTHING to work with.
I can't even *imagine* any scenario where they would have anything to gain. Doc Branion treated Black Panthers, so of course, the authorities wanted to nail him at any and all cost. I'm a whistleblower and general gadfly, thereby presenting a danger to the Colorado bar. But Cam's just a friggin' STEVEDORE!
It took me months of investigation before I finally figured it all out. And one day, I should be able to tell you what it is.
I'm expecting you to make your case within a week, and not one moment later. After all, once Geragos pulls this putative 'rabbit' out of his hat at next week's hearing, it won't be a secret any more. I'm not the *slightest* bit averse to the concept, Ted -- it is just that you are definitely light in the "credible evidence" department.
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Ken Smith wrote:
Theodore A. Kaldis wrote: It's not something that is even readily conceivable.
I'll grant you that. And you have virtually NOTHING to work with.
I can't even *imagine* any scenario where they would have anything to gain.
That's certainly not an unreasonable position.
Doc Branion treated Black Panthers, so of course, the authorities wanted to nail him at any and all cost. I'm a whistleblower and general gadfly, thereby presenting a danger to the Colorado bar.
Personally, I think that you might be overinflating your own importance. But I readily concede that there are many details about your situation that I am not privy to.
But Cam's just a friggin' STEVEDORE!
It took me months of investigation before I finally figured it all out. And one day, I should be able to tell you what it is.
I'm expecting you to make your case within a week, and not one moment later.
I'm not quite certain if I'll be able to "go public" by then.
After all, once Geragos pulls this putative 'rabbit' out of his hat at next week's hearing, it won't be a secret any more.
I'm not sure just what statements he will have for the press by then -- if any. If he doesn't have anything to say just yet, it's unlikely that I will, either.
I'm not the *slightest* bit averse to the concept, Ted -- it is just that you are definitely light in the "credible evidence" department.
Sh*t happens. So what are your plans in 8 days from now? -- Theodore A. Kaldis kaldis@worldnet.att.net
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Theodore A. Kaldis wrote:
Ken Smith wrote: I'll grant you that. And you have virtually NOTHING to work with. That's certainly not an unreasonable position.
Ted, please keep in mind that my opinion here is informed by what ienj is telling you. For Cam's indictment to be thrown out, the malfeasance would have to be so overwhelming AND his innocence so obvious that there is no way the State's actions can be countenanced. And frankly, there's that little problem of evidence that even you admit is way too ambiguous to exonerate Cam. Doc Branion treated Black Panthers, so of course, the authorities wanted to nail him at any and all cost. I'm a whistleblower and general gadfly, thereby presenting a danger to the Colorado bar.
Personally, I think that you might be overinflating your own importance.
The issue here is systemic corruption on a Brobdignagian scale -- but as you even refuse to acknowledge that it is improper for a trial court to follow black-letter law directly on-point, I might as well be talking to a wall. You can't be persuaded in this matter because YOU DON'T WANT TO BE PERSUADED. It's really that simple. The stark reality is that bureaucracies *always* close ranks when they have been caught out. Trying to beat them is always a crapshoot, but not fighting back is always a loss.
But I readily concede that there are many details about your situation that I am not privy to.
When I say "YMMV at trial," I *MEAN* it. I don't think you've made a very good case, and in many instances, you've actually *hurt* Cam's case with some of the positions you've taken. Sure, those tendentious rules of law might get you where you want to go in *my* case, but when applied on a consistent basis, they put Cam in the gas chamber. Your hypocrisy has hurt your standing with everyone, including natural allies like Chas and Kent. My guess is that you've even lost Solar, who (as I recall) remained neutral while folks like Jason were disemboweling you, even though s/he'd seen your act with respect to my case. S/he has been hammering you for your hypocrisy and the sheer unreasonableness of your defense, and has managed to move me quite a bit closer to believing that Cam must be guilty. But Cam's just a friggin' STEVEDORE!
It took me months of investigation before I finally figured it all out. And one day, I should be able to tell you what it is. I'm not quite certain if I'll be able to "go public" by then.
Then, I would suggest that you go underground until you do. It's not like this was the main topic of conversation around here while you were gone. :) After all, once Geragos pulls this putative 'rabbit' out of his hat at next week's hearing, it won't be a secret any more.
I'm not sure just what statements he will have for the press by then -- if any. If he doesn't have anything to say just yet, it's unlikely that I will, either.
If I were you, I'd STFU, and not try to put me in a position where I am inclined to bring the matter up. The less you say here, the less a Craig Hum would learn. And if this case matters to him as much as you say it does, he's watching.... I'm not the *slightest* bit averse to the concept, Ted -- it is just that you are definitely light in the "credible evidence" department.
Sh*t happens.
Which is precisely why we should not feel sorry for Cam, according to your line of reasoning. After all, it's not like Cam's problems aren't exclusively of *his own* making. "Gee, Daddy! Mr. Tiger has such SHARP teeth! Can I see, Daddy? Pleeeeeeease?" That's pure Al MacInnes from the blue-line, or Brett Lee on the cricket pitch. You're caught out, and you never knew what hit you. :) When I think of Cam's "poor life-choices," I think of Michael Jackson, dangling his kid over that balcony. At absolute best, Cam is a Michael Jackson-class flake, who probably ought to be sterilized....
So what are your plans in 8 days from now?
They are my own. You are no longer my friend, and I have no need to divulge any aspect of my life to you.
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[caught inadvertently missing word] Ken Smith wrote:
Theodore A. Kaldis wrote: Ted, please keep in mind that my opinion here is informed by what ienj is telling you. For Cam's indictment to be thrown out, the malfeasance would have to be so overwhelming AND his innocence so obvious that there is no way the State's actions can be countenanced. And frankly, there's that little problem of evidence that even you admit is way too ambiguous to exonerate Cam. Doc Branion treated Black Panthers, so of course, the authorities wanted to nail him at any and all cost. I'm a whistleblower and general gadfly, thereby presenting a danger to the Colorado bar. The issue here is systemic corruption on a Brobdignagian scale -- but as you even refuse to acknowledge that it is improper for a trial court to NOT follow black-letter law right on-point, I may as well be talking to a wall. You can't be persuaded in this matter because YOU DON'T WANT TO BE PERSUADED. It's really that simple. The stark reality is that bureaucracies *always* close ranks when they have been caught out. Trying to beat them is always a crapshoot, but not fighting back is always a loss. When I say "YMMV at trial," I *MEAN* it. I don't think you've made a very good case, and in many instances, you've actually *hurt* Cam's case with some of the positions you've taken. Sure, those tendentious rules of law might get you where you want to go in *my* case, but when applied on a consistent basis, they put Cam in the gas chamber. Your hypocrisy has hurt your standing with everyone, including natural allies like Chas and Kent. My guess is that you've even lost Solar, who (as I recall) remained neutral while folks like Jason were disemboweling you, even though s/he'd seen your act with respect to my case. S/he has been hammering you for your hypocrisy and the sheer unreasonableness of your defense, and has managed to move me quite a bit closer to believing that Cam must be guilty. But Cam's just a friggin' STEVEDORE! Then, I would suggest that you go underground until you do. It's not like this was the main topic of conversation around here while you were gone. :)
After all, once Geragos pulls this putative 'rabbit' out of his hat at next week's hearing, it won't be a secret any more. I'm not sure just what statements he will have for the press by then -- if any. If he doesn't have anything to say just yet, it's unlikely that I will, either.
If I were you, I'd STFU, and not try to put me in a position where I am inclined to bring the matter up. The less you say here, the less a Craig Hum would learn. And if this case matters to him as much as you say it does, he's watching.... I'm not the *slightest* bit averse to the concept, Ted -- it is just that you are definitely light in the "credible evidence" department. Which is precisely why we should not feel sorry for Cam, according to your line of reasoning. After all, it's not like Cam's problems aren't exclusively of *his own* making. "Gee, Daddy! Mr. Tiger has such SHARP teeth! Can I see, Daddy? Pleeeeeeease?" That's pure Al MacInnes from the blue-line, or Brett Lee on the cricket pitch. You're caught out, and you never knew what hit you. :) When I think of Cam's "poor life-choices," I think of Michael Jackson, dangling his kid over that balcony. At absolute best, Cam is a Michael Jackson-class flake, who probably ought to be sterilized.... They are my own. You are no longer my friend, and I have no need to divulge any aspect of my life to you.
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SolarChase wrote: Theodore A. Kaldis wrote Ken Smith wrote: I can't even come up with a scenario in which it would make sense for anyone to "frame" a complete nobody like Cam Brown.
">It's not something that's readily apparent. And you have virtually NOTHING to work with. It took me months of investigation before I finally figured it all out. And one day, I should be able to tell you what it is." Wellllllll, seeing we have gotten past one hearing and are almost ready for the next hearing, is THIS day of grand revelation any closer ??
It should BE today! The motions in question should have already been filed with the Court by now, if Geragos expects them to be considered at the hearing on Monday. Remember, Hum has to have a reasonable chance to respond, so he'd have to get at least a day or two to file a responsive brief. More curious is Ted's claim that he needed "months of investigation" to figure this thing out. Cam was arrested in late November, and Ted first mounted his defense six weeks later. By his own admission, Ted came to Cam's defense long before he supposedly knew that anything was amiss. Just another tall tale from Electric TeddiBeer, it would seem. One can only wonder what Hum's purported 'vendetta' might be, though knowing Ted and the crowd he slithers with, there's a fair chance that Hum is one of "CamShaft" Brown's jilted gay lovers. LOL!
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