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ustralias Skeptic Society FAQ V1.0 Last Revised Jan 2005
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1 The impression that Australian Skeptics (AS) had "backed-down" CLAIMBREAKERS
2 But using AS money MINE
3 Defining in detail precisely what it is that s/he believes PRECISE DETAIL
4 We must know BARRY WILL TAKE CARE OF IT
5 Believe that we should offer our prize for a test MINE MINE MINE
6 They had approached Bond's English Literature ME ME ME
7 Not for our money MINE MINE MINE
8 We did not want to be seen to be hounding a deluded WE DIDN'T CALL HIM DELUDED
9 this made perfect sense BUT HE IS
10 As a naked statement and was totally irrelevant MISQUOTER
11 Not make a good story OF A FOOL
12 Every question, was that "the Skeptics are backing down GET THE HINT?
13 Opportunity to confess that we have indeed backed down OH REALLY?
14 Solving Fermat's Last Theorem WE'LL LEAVE IT WITH YOU
15 A challenger must make a specific and testable claim directly to AS. NOT PRECISE & DETAILED?
16 It's our challenge, our money MINE MINE MINE
17 By both the Skeptics and the challenger THEY'LL WORK OUT A TEST USING PSYCHIC
POWERS AFTER THEY KILLFILTER YOU
18 The Skeptics Challenge is NOT EXISTANT
19 Someone can put one over the Skeptics THEY JUST DID ON NATIONAL TV
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A Current Affair exposes Barry Williams, Australia Skeptic Society http://tinyurl.com/5q9tc
http://www.skeptics.com.au/features/press/aca.htm
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE : 20 June 2003
Contact Barry Williams : (
The Things that You're Liable to See on the Box that Ain't Necessarily So
The plain facts about Australian Skeptics' testing of Dennis Puffet on A Current Affair
TV viewers who saw a story on A Current Affair (ACA) on Tuesday, June 17 might have been left with
the impression that Australian Skeptics (AS) had "backed-down" from testing a "healer", one Dennis
<<1 Australia Skeptics backed down>>
Puffet. That impression, fostered by ACA both in its advertising and on air, is wrong. At no stage
has Australian Skeptics ever had an agreement with Dennis Puffet, nor with anyone else, to conduct
a formal test of his alleged paranormal abilities. Any charge of our backing down is blatantly
untrue and neither Mr Puffet nor A Current Affair has any reason to suppose otherwise.
Trying to be scrupulously fair to ACA, they might have initially convinced themselves (mistakenly)
that they had the rights to run a test for the Skeptics $100,000 challenge under their own rules
(but using AS money) while ignoring any sort of controlled conditions. However, long before this
<<2 The money is donated by noted members of public>>
segment went to air, ACA was left with no legitimate excuse for continuing to so believe.
Since the first story was shown, and before the offending segment, AS engaged in voluminous
correspondence (telephone and email) with ACA in which we explained the rules, in great detail,
under which such a test could take place. The first such rule is that a claimant must make a
written submission to AS, clearly defining in detail precisely what it is that s/he believes s/he
<<3 This is a copout, 'clearly defining paranormal in detail' is not the 1st step of the proposed
scientific method stated on the website>>
<<clearly-defining-paranormal-in-detail is used as evidence of mental illness to imprison people>>
<<Randi Org and A.S.S. application procedure are to state *a brief summary of the power*>>
You first apply in writing, clearly stating what you are claiming to be able to do.
Representatives from the Australian Skeptics will work with you to define a suitable,
and mutually agreeable, test procedure
can do. We must know this before we can even begin to decide whether the claims are testable and,
<<4 'We' is a lie, Barry denies applications without showing the committee, as opposed to the conditions,
he has admitted this>>
if so, how they can be tested. It hardly needs stating that waving one's hands around on TV and
apocryphal testimonials do not constitute such a claim.
At no time have we received any such claim from Mr Puffet, however we did relax the rule
sufficiently to allow ACA to present some claims on his behalf. This came to us just two days
before the interview with Richard Saunders and Barry Williams which were shown in the June 17
story. What the ACA story did not say was that when the written claims from Mr Puffet were
received, one of Puffet's stipulations was that he would regard anything he wanted to as a success,
whether or not the subject of the healing knew it! He would also recognise nothing as a failure.
The "Pure Healing Energy and Cosmic Harmonic Resonance" (his terms) were only using him as a
conduit and he was not responsible for anything (though he did have them on tap just by thinking of
them). There were other equally vague and barely coherent claims and quite obviously there was no
way we could design any sort of objective test of them.
We informed ACA of this, but they constantly strove to push us into putting up the money to test
Puffet and to break our own rules. It soon became clear that they were working to a story deadline
and were not at all interested in whether or not the test would be valid. When we didn't agree to
that, they charged ahead with the story regardless. Several emails were sent to them spelling out
that at no stage would we be backing out, rather that we intended to follow the correct procedure,
just as we would for anyone else. We even offered to provide ACA with advice on how to conduct
their own test for their own money if the deadline was of such importance (and to save them from
throwing away their money in a flawed test) but these offers were ignored. Furthermore, they
informed us that they had come to an agreement with Bond University to conduct a test on Puffet,
while still seeming to believe that we should offer our prize for a test in which we had no input
whatsoever. Naturally we declined this kind offer.
<<5 its not your money, it has contractual beneficiery>>
At this point the issue entered the realm of pure farce. ACA told us that as Puffet would not agree
to being tested by a scientist (who would be biased), they had approached Bond's English Literature
department. Seldom have our ghasts been more flabbered.
<<6 the rules state an independant umpire will make the final decision, what is wrong with University lecturers?>>
It appears that not only is the claimant allowed to nominate his own (very open ended) criteria for
success or failure, he is also allowed to dictate who can supervise the testing and the right to
veto anyone who might be expected to be capable of designing a scientific test. Not for our money
he isn't.
<<7 its not your money, it belongs to any person who can prove paranormal on media camera>>
During the on-camera interviews, during which Richard was recorded for 15-20 minutes and Barry for
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|-|erc <h@r.c> wrote:
Hey, aren't you that nutcase who claims to be psychic?
--
Saddam has continued to produce them, that he has existing and active
military plans for the use of chemical and biological weapons, which
could be activated within 45 minutes
- Tony Blair on Saddam 24/9/02
"For a century and a half now, America and Japan have formed one of the
great and enduring alliances of modern times."
George W Bush -Tokyo, Japan, Feb. 18, 2002
suicide bombing is not a belief
-CrazyAlec (internet spook)
"I hear there's rumors on the Internets"
- George W Bush -Oct. 9, 2004
Even today I am willing to volunteer to do the dirty work for Israel, to
kill as many Arabs as necessary, to deport them, to expel and burn
them, to have everyone hate us, to pull the rug from underneath the
feet of the Diaspora Jews, so that they will be forced to run to us
crying. Even if it means blowing up one or two synagogues here and
there, I don't care. -- Ariel Sharon, interviewed by Amos Oz (published
in the Israeli daily Davar, DEC 17, 1982
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I am The Truman of Jim Carrey fame. Please help stop me being tortured since April 2002
with constant microwave laser from the Truman satelite splitting my head and tormenting me
and people around me. Not a prank, I am not crazy, The Truman Show made you think that
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|-|erc <h@r.c> wrote:
Hey, aren't you that nutcase who claims to be psychic?
I didn't write that.
Herc
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:49:02 -0000, "CQMMAN" <cqmman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
|-|erc <h@r.c> wrote:
Hey, aren't you that nutcase who claims to be psychic?
Only because he can't spell "psychotic".
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I am The Truman of Jim Carrey fame. Please help stop me being tortured since April 2002
with constant microwave laser from the Truman satelite splitting my head and tormenting me
and people around me. Not a prank, I am not crazy, The Truman Show made you think that
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"Dubh Ghall" <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote in message news:8h85u05fmdrmjcspu7b6bfnb63hs1v902j@4ax.com...
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:49:02 -0000, "CQMMAN" <cqmman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Only because he can't spell "psychotic".
COME ON GIRLS, YOURE ON MISC LEGAL. SHOW THEM HOW TOUGH YOU ARE
ALT ATHEISM STICK DILDOS UP THEIR ASS NO GOD GO DILDOS
Herc
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|-|erc <h@r.c> wrote:
Hey, aren't you that nutcase who claims to be psychic?
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I think it might be
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I am The Truman of Jim Carrey fame. Please help stop me being tortured since April 2002
with constant microwave laser from the Truman satelite splitting my head and tormenting me
and people around me. Not a prank, I am not crazy, The Truman Show made you think that
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"kathryn" <bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote in
I think it might be
I recognise this newbie slag from last week, filthy @$#*ing skanks in that mob of trash
got the mouths of whores but nothing to match
Herc
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In our last episode <34fiv4F4b8ejjU1@individual.net>, CQMMAN lept out of
the bushes shouting:
|-|erc <h@r.c> wrote:
Hey, aren't you that nutcase who claims to be psychic?
That's him. Claims that his life is the "real" version of the movie "The
Truman Show."
(We're talking *waaaaaay out there that guy)
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:29:34 +1000, "|-|erc" <h@r.c> wrote:
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Snipped unread due to all caps subject header.
FOAD
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I am The Truman of Jim Carrey fame. Please help stop me being tortured since April 2002
with constant microwave laser from the Truman satelite splitting my head and tormenting me
and people around me. Not a prank, I am not crazy, The Truman Show made you think that
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
In our last episode <34fiv4F4b8ejjU1@individual.net>, CQMMAN lept out of
the bushes shouting:
That's him. Claims that his life is the "real" version of the movie "The
Truman Show."
(We're talking *waaaaaay out there that guy)
I am the Truman you @$#*head. 10,000 witnesses know it.
You let me get tortured incase you thought these are fake.
T R U e M A N W I T N E S S E S
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dksqpv41597ofbhr16mi7tdj2qfihvoldv%404ax.com
Hey Trueman...
what up, my uncle told me you post here... he's did some audio on your
secret show and gave me some tapes. love the show.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1epmdv8iqmnckeqhctnf17537rt8hevjeh%404ax.com
You rule Truman.
http://www.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=9aqbbv85c53jobkenltkil2tbsdk7m2n3p@4ax.com
I was in Townsville over the weekend, and I heard him.
Very spooky!
http://www.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=me7hbv4snqc6gnb1cktj3cvqtiibnpm6s9@4ax.com
I'm from Townsville and YOU ARE the Truman
http://www.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=3eb66422.779705967@news.ozemail.com.au
I'm in Townsville. We're sick of you
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.OSF.4.21.0309230859190.5384-100000%40marlin.jcu.edu.au
Do you know if the truman is living in Townsville?
I've been hearing stuff, yeah.
From: Les Norton (Les.Norton@spamfree.com.au)
Subject: OT: RESULTS: Herc-Truman test
Anyhow, not scientific proof, but a bloody good effort anyway.
BTW, when I was in The Strand last weekend, I didn't hear your broadcast per
se. Well, at least I thought I didn't. Again, who knows? LOL.
Anyhow, you think your the Truman. So WTF, I think you're the Truman too.
"Therefore 100,000 Townsville residents and 1 Melbourne tourist can't be
wrong".
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"|-|erc" <h@r.c> wrote in message news:34fmjgF493ue6U1@individual.net...
I am The Truman of Jim Carrey fame. Please help stop me being tortured
since April 2002
with constant microwave laser from the Truman satelite splitting my head
and tormenting me
and people around me. Not a prank, I am not crazy, The Truman Show made
you think that
---------------------------------------------s-o-s-----------------------------------------
"kathryn" <bob@bobbybobbobthebobster.com> wrote in
I recognise this newbie slag from last week, filthy @$#*ing skanks in
that mob of trash
got the mouths of whores but nothing to match
Herc
You don't even make sense. Would it be possible for you to even try to form
a coherent sentence? I doubt it. Try insulting me when you have better
grasp of the english language little man.
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I recognise this newbie slag from last week, filthy @$#*ing skanks in
that mob of trash
got the mouths of whores but nothing to match
Herc
You don't even make sense. Would it be possible for you to even try to form
a coherent sentence? I doubt it. Try insulting me when you have better
grasp of the english language little man.
Is that the little english language as opposed to the big English language?
Herc
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"|-|erc" <h@r.c> wrote in message news:34fqgvF4aggl0U1@individual.net...
I recognise this newbie slag from last week, filthy @$#*ing skanks in
that mob of trash
got the mouths of whores but nothing to match
Herc
You don't even make sense. Would it be possible for you to even try to
form
a coherent sentence? I doubt it. Try insulting me when you have better
grasp of the english language little man.
Is that the little english language as opposed to the big English
language?
Herc
Did it make sense?
Yes!
I'm one up on you then typos aside.
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 00:29:34 +1000, "|-|erc" <h@r.c> wrote:
No I am not crazy
Yes, you are.
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 02:45:33 +1000, "|-|erc" <h@r.c> wrote:
T R U e M A N W I T N E S S E S
They're making fun of you, idiot.
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:11:15 -0600, wildbluskies@hotmail.com wrote
(in article <1105384275.948938.277410@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>):
tortured since April 2002
head and tormenting me
made you think that
I can't wait until the next american civil war so I can legally kill
nutcases like you, so, I will put you out of your misery for any
generous sum. Donations accepted.
erk is not an American, he is in Australia.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
America, making tomorrow's terrorists today.
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I am The Truman of Jim Carrey fame. Please help stop me being tortured since April 2002
with constant microwave laser from the Truman satelite splitting my head and tormenting me
and people around me. Not a prank, I am not crazy, The Truman Show made you think that
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"Harry F. Leopold" <hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote in message
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:11:15 -0600, wildbluskies@hotmail.com wrote
(in article <1105384275.948938.277410@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>):
erk is not an American, he is in Australia.
right, US trillion dollar media empire AKA the truman show is going to let that slip.
you wont get within 1,000 miles of me with that thought in your head. every little
homosexual fantasy you have tonight will be uploaded to the pentagon until they
have 20GB of your brain activity enough to take you down in a second.
not to mention nobody on usenet has managed to correct my spelling yet without fumbling.
Herc
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 07:30:54 -0600, Harry F. Leopold
<hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:11:15 -0600, wildbluskies@hotmail.com wrote
(in article <1105384275.948938.277410@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>):
erk is not an American, he is in Australia.
NO, Herc is a stupid Frenchman. As such you will need to sieve through
the whole country to find him.
He was extradited from Australia many years ago.
--
Find out about Australia's most dangerous Doomsday Cult:
http://users.bigpond.net.au/wanglese/pebble.htm
"You can't fool me, it's turtles all the way down."
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