The City of Los Angeles has resorted to extortion.
I am a cosmetic dentist in Los Angeles and I am faced with a delemma
and I need some advice.
In August some woman from the City of Los Angeles Department of Public
Works Showed up at my office while I was out on personal business.
She handed an application for an Industrial Waste Permit which involved
a registration fee and a video on proper handling of amalgam waste
dually created by the ADA/CDA. This woman did not examine this office
and was ademant about convincing my staff that we are in violation of
the city ordinance just because they met with The ADA/CDA and it was
determined that all dentists are.
I am in a medical building where we have centralized air and suction
system.
Appearently this fee is supposed to allow you to dispose of
gluteraldehyde, ketones, alcohols, and elemental amalgam particles plus
other similar materials into the public sewage system by providing you
with a permit to do so. GO FIGURE THE LOGIC?????
It also is supposed to supervise the collection of fixer developer and
amalgam and precious metal scrap and lead foils from x-ray film but
nobody ever shows up to check this.
At this point I am not ever sure that this foil is actually lead
probably aluminum since the film is so sensitive now a days but only
KODAK knows for sure and that's another discussion and doesn't apply to
my case since i have digital x-rays.
NOw I do not place any Amalgam nor have I for many years, I have
digital x-rays which I invested in earlier this year. I also do not
remove amalgam I'm mostly a veneer practice. And the rare occasion that
I run into a silver filling I have an independent suction system
separate from the city and we have the waste picked up when enough of
it accumulated. Also we do not dump gluteraldehyde into the drain it is
used for wiping down equiptment only. The ultrasonic cleaner we use is
biodegradable enzymatic and is not on the city's forbidden list.
Extacted teeth are soacked on bleach and given to their respected
owners enamel, amalgam and all. And they can either store these teeth
in their mouths as recommended by the FDA or in class jars under
mineral oil.
So where you may ask this is going??? Last week I recieve an
invoice/violation notice from the city with a fine for $350 for being
in violation of illegally discharging condemened mercury into the city
sewage system. this invoice contains further threats of this being
punishable by a misdemeanor jail time and an additional $1000.00 fine.
They can test for these acts by taking a sample or photograph. What if
my patient had too much sushi and rinsed their mouth in my cuspidor? or
what if there is something in the lines from the previous dentists who
practiced in my office before I bought it??
And the piss of the whole thing is I am not guilty of any of this stuff
this woman just walks by picks up a business card with DDS or DMD
behind it and all of a sudden I am accused of being guilty.
I am begining to suffer anxiety attacks and mental anguish as a result
of these threats. Where is the ADA/CDA on this harassment?
This amalgam thing is like a nightmare you can't escape it, you try not
not put it in and yet it still haunts you. Since I am not contributing
to it's placement I feel it is unethical for me to pay for the actions
of others. Dentists that refused to place it had their licences revoked
in the past now they are being penalized for what everybody else is
doing with these HMO games. The dental boards still have the amalgam as
past of their licensure exam. What the hell is this system coming to,
makes you just want to hang up the handpiece.

The City of Los Angeles has resorted to extortion.
I am a cosmetic dentist in Los Angeles and I am faced with a delemma
and I need some advice.
In August some woman from the City of Los Angeles Department of

Works Showed up at my office while I was out on personal business.
She handed an application for an Industrial Waste Permit which

a registration fee and a video on proper handling of amalgam waste
dually created by the ADA/CDA. This woman did not examine this

and was ademant about convincing my staff that we are in violation

the city ordinance just because they met with The ADA/CDA and it was
determined that all dentists are.
I am in a medical building where we have centralized air and suction
system.
Appearently this fee is supposed to allow you to dispose of
gluteraldehyde, ketones, alcohols, and elemental amalgam particles

other similar materials into the public sewage system by providing

with a permit to do so. GO FIGURE THE LOGIC?????
It also is supposed to supervise the collection of fixer developer

amalgam and precious metal scrap and lead foils from x-ray film but
nobody ever shows up to check this.
At this point I am not ever sure that this foil is actually lead
probably aluminum since the film is so sensitive now a days but only
KODAK knows for sure and that's another discussion and doesn't apply

my case since i have digital x-rays.
NOw I do not place any Amalgam nor have I for many years, I have
digital x-rays which I invested in earlier this year. I also do not
remove amalgam I'm mostly a veneer practice. And the rare occasion

I run into a silver filling I have an independent suction system
separate from the city and we have the waste picked up when enough

it accumulated. Also we do not dump gluteraldehyde into the drain it

used for wiping down equiptment only. The ultrasonic cleaner we use

biodegradable enzymatic and is not on the city's forbidden list.
Extacted teeth are soacked on bleach and given to their respected
owners enamel, amalgam and all. And they can either store these

in their mouths as recommended by the FDA or in class jars under
mineral oil.
So where you may ask this is going??? Last week I recieve an
invoice/violation notice from the city with a fine for $350 for

in violation of illegally discharging condemened mercury into the

sewage system. this invoice contains further threats of this being
punishable by a misdemeanor jail time and an additional $1000.00

They can test for these acts by taking a sample or photograph. What

my patient had too much sushi and rinsed their mouth in my cuspidor?

what if there is something in the lines from the previous dentists

practiced in my office before I bought it??
And the piss of the whole thing is I am not guilty of any of this

this woman just walks by picks up a business card with DDS or DMD
behind it and all of a sudden I am accused of being guilty.
I am begining to suffer anxiety attacks and mental anguish as a

of these threats. Where is the ADA/CDA on this harassment?
This amalgam thing is like a nightmare you can't escape it, you try

not put it in and yet it still haunts you. Since I am not

to it's placement I feel it is unethical for me to pay for the

of others. Dentists that refused to place it had their licences

in the past now they are being penalized for what everybody else is
doing with these HMO games. The dental boards still have the amalgam

past of their licensure exam. What the hell is this system coming

makes you just want to hang up the handpiece.

<purple543210@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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Public
involved
office
of
plus
you
and
to
that
of
is
is
teeth
being
city
fine.
if
or
who
stuff
result
not
contributing
actions
revoked
as
to,
Defend it or pay it. What's the problem? If you want to appeal the
fine, you can. You can present evidence and argument. You can
present expert witnesses. If you would rather pay the $350 and get
back to work, you can do so. If you don't want to buy an unnecessary
permit, you can defend yourself against a fine for the alleged
violation. What do you mean, what is this system coming to? The

accuse, the defendant defends, a judge (or an administrative law
judge) decides. That sounds like a good system. Do you think its
reasonable to expect the cops (or other enforcement type people) to
conduct the sort of investigation that would prove all of the facts
you stated above?
Your attitude is not unusual. Innocent people often think they

be immune from accusations. They think (I guess) that the system
ought to know that the accusations are not true, that the accused
should be believed automatically and that innocent people should

have to defend themselves. There is no such system.
McGyver

I wrote a letter of explanation that they asked for within 10 days

deadline. But I did not see any formal process of appeal or any box
that says if you think this is in error please check here on the
documents they sent me. This document looked more like a fine with a
threat of additional fines in total of $1000/day plus six months

McGyver wrote:
cops
should
never

<purple543210@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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of a
jail.
You need to see an attorney about it. It's important to find out the
defense procedure or appeal procedure. If all you are willing to do
is look for a box to check, that's ok, that's what clients should do,
just before seeing an attorney. Your attorney will find out the
procedures. Now that you mention the $1,000 per day part, and the
jail part, I hereby withdraw my prior comments and replace them with
the following: Its critically important that you hire a local

as soon as possible. Any delay could become a serious problem.
McGyver

Should I not wait to see the reply from the letter I sent them

they requested???

Also what kind of attorney deals with this stuff?

McGyver wrote:
attorney