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banjo t wrote:
Administration Rejects Ruling On PR Videos
GAO Called Tapes Illegal Propaganda
By Christopher Lee
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, March 15, 2005
The Bush administration, rejecting an opinion from the Government
Accountability Office, said last week that it is legal for federal
agencies to feed TV stations prepackaged news stories that do not
disclose the government's role in producing them.
That message, in memos sent Friday to federal agency heads and general
counsels, contradicts a Feb. 17 memo from Comptroller General David M.
Walker. Walker wrote that such stories -- designed to resemble
independently reported broadcast news stories so that TV stations can
run them without editing -- violate provisions in annual
appropriations laws that ban covert propaganda.
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And why not? The "mainstream media" make up plenty of fake "news" of their
own as it is.
"Prof. Jonez" wrote:
banjo t wrote:
Administration Rejects Ruling On PR Videos
GAO Called Tapes Illegal Propaganda
By Christopher Lee
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, March 15, 2005
The Bush administration, rejecting an opinion from the Government
Accountability Office, said last week that it is legal for federal
agencies to feed TV stations prepackaged news stories that do not disclose
the government's role in producing them.
That message, in memos sent Friday to federal agency heads and general
counsels, contradicts a Feb. 17 memo from Comptroller General David M.
Walker. Walker wrote that such stories -- designed to resemble
independently reported broadcast news stories so that TV stations can run
them without editing -- violate provisions in annual appropriations laws
that ban covert propaganda.
Looks to me like it's time for Walker to walk.
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Theodore A. Kaldis
kaldis@worldnet.att.net
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Theodore A. Kaldis wrote:
And why not? The "mainstream media" make up plenty of fake "news" of their
own as it is.
You are, of course, referring to FAUX News.
"Prof. Jonez" wrote:
Administration Rejects Ruling On PR Videos
GAO Called Tapes Illegal Propaganda
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And why not? The "mainstream media" make up plenty of fake "news" of their
own as it is.
American attitude: "No matter what it is or how bad, if someone else is
doing it, it's fine for me to do it"
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American attitude: "No matter what it is or how bad, if someone else is
doing it, it's fine for me to do it
Well put. I had a boss once to whom I presented indisputable evidence of
egregious misconduct on the part of another employee and expressed my
frustration at his unwillingness to take action. My boss told me that
conditions were just as bad at any other workplace. Pride and self-respect
are going down the tubes in this country.
Ethan
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On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:19:08 -0700, " \"- Prof. Jonez\""
<jonez@norcom.ca> wrote:
banjo t wrote:
Fictitious movie from fat ball cap wearing socia-lite yob from Flint
fails to remove White House incumbent.
My tits, your tats.
And the Dems ran from Moore. For good reason but they couldn't get
that crap offa their collective shoe in time for November. Perhaps the
conspiracy here is that the Repubs are secretly (and of course,
unknowingly to Moore) backing his 'films'. Cynical? Maybe. Then Ollie
Stonehead thinks there was a conspiracy to kill Kennedy.
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On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 19:50:38 GMT, "Ethan" <ethan448@nospam.yahoo.com>
wrote:
Well put. I had a boss once to whom I presented indisputable evidence of
egregious misconduct on the part of another employee and expressed my
frustration at his unwillingness to take action. My boss told me that
conditions were just as bad at any other workplace. Pride and self-respect
are going down the tubes in this country.
Ethan
Hey, when you leave, take some of the Baldwin's with you. They don't
keep their collective promises to leave and might need a bit of help
with the packing. And please don't bring them to Canader, we have
enough failed socia-lites, failed and crappy actors and American
haters here. How about France? They have nice cheeze there.
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On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:19:08 -0700, " \"- Prof. Jonez\""
<jonez@norcom.ca> wrote:
Fictitious movie from fat ball cap wearing socia-lite yob from Flint
fails to remove White House incumbent.
My tits, your tats.
What has Micheal Moore got to do with the illegal Bush gov't practice of
paying people to produce government propaganda?
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On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:35:24 -0500, "Paul R" <no@way.com> wrote:
What has Micheal Moore got to do with the illegal Bush gov't practice of
paying people to produce government propaganda?
Fare height 911. Seen it? If you have you lose time and money you
can't get back.
All governments produce information about programmes and policies. If
you are against that ticular gov, then it is prop. If you are for it,
it is good and useful. Your choice or you can simply doubt all sources
and act accordingly.
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Ethan wrote:
Warren wrote:
Well put.
Poorly put. It's not the same thing. The real issue here, and why this
matter is even a controversy, is because of whose ox is getting gored.
I had a boss once to whom I presented indisputable evidence of egregious
misconduct on the part of another employee and expressed my frustration at
his unwillingness to take action.
In other words, you're a RAT, because you RATTED OUT your coworker.
My boss told me that conditions were just as bad at any other workplace.
Your boss is apparently street-smart. Moreover, employers like to have
employees who work well together, who watch each others' backs, who are "team
players". You're apparently not a team player.
Pride and self-respect are going down the tubes in this country.
What sort of "pride and self-respect" does a RAT really have?
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Theodore A. Kaldis
kaldis@worldnet.att.net
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On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 16:35:24 -0500, "Paul R" <no@way.com> wrote:
Fare height 911. Seen it? If you have you lose time and money you
can't get back.
All governments produce information about programmes and policies. If
you are against that ticular gov, then it is prop. If you are for it,
it is good and useful. Your choice or you can simply doubt all sources
and act accordingly.
You don't get it do you. By engaging in these activities, the Bush
government is breaking the law.
It's propaganda when it's misleading.
Again, what has Moore's movie to do with gov't propaganda? One is an issue
of artistic integrity (yes I have actually seen the film. Have you?) and the
other is of the government lying to it's people so that it can engage in
whatever policy it wants. If the people are kept ignorant, the government
can do whatever it wants.
This is very dangerous. It is undemocratic and illegal.
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Theodore A. Kaldis wrote:
<CRAP SNIPPED>
It's my day off, asshole -- I can do this all night if I have to.
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What sort of "pride and self-respect" does a RAT really have?
Which is why any legislation that protects employees who go to the
authorities about their company's illegal practices should be outlawed and
the corporation should have every right to persecute them.
This is America and that is the American way! The Law Of The Jungle.
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On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:16:50 -0500, "Paul R" <no@way.com> wrote:
You don't get it do you. By engaging in these activities, the Bush
government is breaking the law.
I get it. I don't care. I am Canadian. I can't vote so I am a
bystander.
It's propaganda when it's misleading.
As I said earlier, above.
Again, what has Moore's movie to do with gov't propaganda? One is an issue
of artistic integrity (yes I have actually seen the film. Have you?) and the
other is of the government lying to it's people so that it can engage in
whatever policy it wants. If the people are kept ignorant, the government
can do whatever it wants.
Moore is a clown agit-prop fake socia-lite. He makes polemic piles and
calls them docs. That could be called propaganda or information. You,
being anti-bush see it as information and what comes out the white
house as propaganda.
This is very dangerous. It is undemocratic and illegal.
That is more or less true. What is the point?
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Mo Che Dong wrote:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:16:50 -0500, "Paul R" <no@way.com> wrote:
I get it. I don't care. I am Canadian. I can't vote so I am a
bystander.
As I said earlier, above.
Moore is a clown agit-prop fake socia-lite. He makes polemic piles
and
calls them docs. That could be called propaganda or information. You,
being anti-bush see it as information and what comes out the white
house as propaganda.
=20
That is more or less true. What is the point?
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"Paul R" <no@way.com> wrote in message news:39rpijF644iclU1@individual.net...
You don't get it do you. By engaging in these activities, the Bush
government is breaking the law.
It's propaganda when it's misleading.
Again, what has Moore's movie to do with gov't propaganda? One is an issue
of artistic integrity (yes I have actually seen the film. Have you?) and the
other is of the government lying to it's people so that it can engage in
whatever policy it wants. If the people are kept ignorant, the government
can do whatever it wants.
This is very dangerous. It is undemocratic and illegal.
The way the right see it is that if Michael Moore can make movies, Bush can
create fictional and misleading propaganda to influence public policy using
lies.
It's all very simple, for the simple minded.
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soli13taire@juno.com wrote:
Theodore A. Kaldis wrote:
<CRAP SNIPPED>
It's my day off, asshole -- I can do this all night if I have to.
Suit yourself.
--
Theodore A. Kaldis
kaldis@worldnet.att.net
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Right Wing Conservative wrote:
Theodore A. Kaldis wrote:
What sort of "pride and self-respect" does a RAT really have?
Which is why any legislation that protects employees who go to the
authorities about their company's illegal practices should be outlawed and
the corporation should have every right to persecute them.
No, because it's human nature. Because if he rats out the next guy, he's
just as likely to rat YOU out as well. Which is why YOU'RE not going to
trust him. And a "corporation" (or any employer, really) is not going to
want to have an employee whom the other employees can't work with.
This is America and that is the American way! The Law Of The Jungle.
The rule of law should properly prevail in America (though in practise it
doesn't always).
--
Theodore A. Kaldis
kaldis@worldnet.att.net
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Theodore A. Kaldis wrote:
Ethan wrote:
Poorly put. It's not the same thing. The real issue here, and why this
matter is even a controversy, is because of whose ox is getting gored.
In other words, you're a RAT, because you RATTED OUT your coworker.
Your boss is apparently street-smart. Moreover, employers like to have
employees who work well together, who watch each others' backs, who are "team
players". You're apparently not a team player.
Even when your team is a criminal enterprise.
What sort of "pride and self-respect" does a RAT really have?
What sort of "pride and self-respect" does a SELF-CONFESSED FELON
like Ted Kaldis really have?
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Hey Jonez, WTF does this have to to with can.politics?
Ken Smith wrote:
Theodore A. Kaldis wrote:
You are, of course, referring to FAUX News.
No CBS news. Fox News isn't nearly as skilled with MS Word.
"Prof. Jonez=A9" wrote:
banjo t wrote:
Administration Rejects Ruling On PR Videos
GAO Called Tapes Illegal Propaganda
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in article 39s09gF66afo8U1@individual.net, Dominus Rex at
dominus.rex@hades.com wrote on 17/3/05 11:10 AM:
"Paul R" <no@way.com> wrote in message news:39rpijF644iclU1@individual.net...
The way the right see it is that if Michael Moore can make movies, Bush can
create fictional and misleading propaganda to influence public policy using
lies.
It's all very simple, for the simple minded.
Sure Bush can with HIS money but should he make these movies with YOURS
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soli13taire@juno.com wrote:
Mo Che Dong wrote:
<OFF-TOPIC CRAP, SNIPPED>
<restored>
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:16:50 -0500, "Paul R" <no@way.com> wrote:
You don't get it do you. By engaging in these activities, the Bush
government is breaking the law.
I get it. I don't care. I am Canadian. I can't vote so I am a
bystander.
It's propaganda when it's misleading.
As I said earlier, above.
Again, what has Moore's movie to do with gov't propaganda? One is an issue
of artistic integrity (yes I have actually seen the film. Have you?) and the
other is of the government lying to it's people so that it can engage in
whatever policy it wants. If the people are kept ignorant, the government
can do whatever it wants.
Moore is a clown agit-prop fake socia-lite. He makes polemic piles and
calls them docs. That could be called propaganda or information. You,
being anti-bush see it as information and what comes out the white
house as propaganda.
This is very dangerous. It is undemocratic and illegal.
That is more or less true. What is the point?
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