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Turkey Hunter Mistakenly Shoots, Kills Camouflaged Man In Tree
POSTED: 4:11 pm EDT March 21, 2008
UPDATED: 7:05 pm EDT March 21, 2008
POLK COUNTY, Fla. -- A camouflaged hunter sitting in a tree was accidentally
shot and killed Friday by another hunter trying to shoot a turkey, according to
the Polk County Sheriff's Office.
Investigators said Michael Shane Hasting, 40, was hunting with his 6-year-old
son at the River Ranch Acres Hunt Club Friday and spotted a turkey.
Hasting fired at the turkey and moved forward to see if he hit the bird. He then
discovered that he accidentally shot Randall Williamson of Pompano Beach.
Williamson was in the wooded area sitting in what is known as a squatter's chair
and wearing camouflage clothing and mesh over his face, according to a Polk
County sheriff's news release. He was also holding a camouflage shotgun.
Detectives are treating the incident as an accidental shooting and no charges
will be filed, according to officials.
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 11:07:04 -0600, _ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:
Turkey Hunter Mistakenly Shoots, Kills Camouflaged Man In Tree
POSTED: 4:11 pm EDT March 21, 2008
UPDATED: 7:05 pm EDT March 21, 2008
POLK COUNTY, Fla. -- A camouflaged hunter sitting in a tree was accidentally
shot and killed Friday by another hunter trying to shoot a turkey, according to
the Polk County Sheriff's Office.
Accidentally? If one dropped the gun and it fired then it would be
accidentally. This guy purposely shot at an object that he did
not clearly identify before hand. First rule of hunting is to clearly
identify your target.
This guy should be charged with murder. He shot and killed someone
without clearly identifying his target. Anyone hunting that shots someone
should be charged with murder. Just because you are hunting is no excuse.
You are obligated to clearly identify your target before pulling the
trigger. There should be no room for question here.
If someone with a permit to carry would shoot someone just because they
thought the person was going to do them harm would go to jail for a very
long time. Why should hunting be any different?
It is time that the so called accidental shootings while hunting be held
accountable for their actions like anyone else would be for shooting a
person. There are too many "want to be" hunters out there now that shoot
at anything just because they think it is game.
You shoot someone while hunting, you goto directly to jail. Do not pass
GO. Do not collect a get out of jail free card because you were hunting.
Unless that person was dressed up in a deerskin or something else you were
hunting there is no excuse for shooting someone. Clearly you were
irresponsible and did not clearly identify your target.
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| Turkey Hunter Mistakenly Shoots, Kills Camouflaged Man In Tree
|| POSTED: 4:11 pm EDT March 21, 2008
| UPDATED: 7:05 pm EDT March 21, 2008
|| POLK COUNTY, Fla. -- A camouflaged hunter sitting in a tree was
accidentally
| shot and killed Friday by another hunter trying to shoot a turkey,
according to
| the Polk County Sheriff's Office.
|| Investigators said Michael Shane Hasting, 40, was hunting with his
6-year-old
| son at the River Ranch Acres Hunt Club Friday and spotted a turkey.
|| Hasting fired at the turkey and moved forward to see if he hit the
bird. He then
| discovered that he accidentally shot Randall Williamson of Pompano
Beach.
|| Williamson was in the wooded area sitting in what is known as a
squatter's chair
| and wearing camouflage clothing and mesh over his face, according to a
Polk
| County sheriff's news release. He was also holding a camouflage
shotgun.
|| Detectives are treating the incident as an accidental shooting and no
charges
| will be filed, according to officials.
I don't know about FL. but in Texas it is illegal to shoot a Turkey
that's in a tree. It is also illegal to shoot if you haven't positively
identified the game you are taking.
The post does say he was in a tree but, the next to last paragraph says
he was in a "wooded area" in a chair. In either case the shooter should
have been charged as this was negligent homicide, not an accident.
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Just another case of corruption. This was manslaughter at the very
least but the killer paid off the right people and now he's free.
Happens every day.
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In talk.politics.guns "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<betaxxx@earthlink.net> wrote:
Just another case of corruption. This was manslaughter at the very
least but the killer paid off the right people
Cite.
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On Mar 23, 11:43 am, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
In talk.politics.guns "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<beta...@earthlink.net> wrote:
Cite.
Hey bucky. Go back to your NAMBLA meeting and leave us decent
americans alone.
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In talk.politics.guns "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<betaxxx@earthlink.net> wrote:
On Mar 23, 11:43 am, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
Hey bucky. Go back to your NAMBLA meeting and leave us decent
americans alone.
Yeah, I kinda figured you were lying when you posted that. Thanks for
the confirmation.
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Judy, the drunken slut wrote:
Just another case of corruption. This was manslaughter at the very
least but the killer paid off the right people and now he's free.
Happens every day.
The only "wrong" done, was by the idiot that got shot dead hiding in the
tree, impersonating a the turkey he was.
He should have been wearing his safety orange.
No crime, no fowl(sorta speak).
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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
On Mar 23, 11:43 am, Buck Mulligan <bkmulli...@comcast.net> wrote:
Hey bucky. Go back to your NAMBLA meeting and leave us decent
americans alone.
Since when are you a "Decent American?"
After all, YOU said that "ALL AMERICANS" are drunkards!
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AstonBarrett wrote:
Judy, the drunken slut wrote:
The only "wrong" done, was by the idiot that got shot dead hiding in
the tree, impersonating a the turkey he was.
He should have been wearing his safety orange.
Or he should have shot first ...
No crime, no fowl(sorta speak).
No brains, no survival ...
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_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:
AstonBarrett wrote:
Or he should have shot first ...
No crime, no fowl(sorta speak).
No brains, no survival ...
I agree!
You have no brains, and you will never survive.
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AstonBarrett wrote:
_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:
No crime, no fowl(sorta speak).
I agree!
You have no brains, and you will never survive.
Demonstrably false, moron.
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On Mar 23, 10:14 am, Robert <no...@noplace.nowhere> wrote:
Accidentally? If one dropped the gun and it fired then it would be
accidentally. This guy purposely shot at an object that he did
not clearly identify before hand. First rule of hunting is to clearly
identify your target.
QUESTION: Were you BORN a moron or did you acquire it after your
"liberal" education? When you finally learn to READ, you'll find out
that the guy who was shot was WEARING CAMOFLAGE EVEN ON HIS GUN AND
FACE! How can one "identifiy" a target that is purposely covered up
so as to NOT be "identified"?
Moron.
This guy should be charged with murder. He shot and killed someone
without clearly identifying his target. Anyone hunting that shots someone
should be charged with murder. Just because you are hunting is no excuse.
You are obligated to clearly identify your target before pulling the
trigger. There should be no room for question here.
Why do all you liberals hate guns, but LOVE death and destruction? You
always want to kill someone or lock them up or ruin their lives...
especially if they are white males. No thoughts about this family man
and his 6 year old son are there?
Hateful bigot.
If someone with a permit to carry would shoot someone just because they
thought the person was going to do them harm would go to jail for a very
long time. Why should hunting be any different?
If someone with a permit had reason to believe the person was going to
harm them EVEN IF THEY HAD NO EVIDENCE OF A WEAPON (as in your house
uninvited at night) You don't go to jail, you don't even get arrested.
It's totally justifiable manslaughter.
LIAR.
It is time that the so called accidental shootings while hunting be held
accountable for their actions like anyone else would be for shooting a
person. There are too many "want to be" hunters out there now that shoot
at anything just because they think it is game.
You mean it's time more gun owners were arrested on trumped-up bogus
charges so that you and yours can take power one day without any
resistance from "the people". Your agenda is SO obvious
Brownshirt Nazi.
You shoot someone while hunting, you goto directly to jail. Do not pass
GO. Do not collect a get out of jail free card because you were hunting.
Unless that person was dressed up in a deerskin or something else you were
hunting there is no excuse for shooting someone. Clearly you were
irresponsible and did not clearly identify your target.
How about the first step is to get an education and start with
learning to READ! Any idea what camouflage is? yeah I thought not.
You just made my case for me. If the guy was NOT in a tree and was
sitting in a lawn chair wearing a Hawaiian shirt, while playing a
trumpet, yeah you just MIGHT have a case. But as it is, you only show
how stupid you really are.
Idiot.
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Benj wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:14 am, Robert <no...@noplace.nowhere> wrote:
QUESTION: Were you BORN a moron or did you acquire it after your
"liberal" education?
This from Benj the bigoted racist.
LOL!
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Benj wrote:
This from Benj the bigoted racist.
LOL!
Yeah. Better he should be a NON-bigoted racist. Or something.
????? :)
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On Mar 25, 12:25 pm, "_ Prof. Jonez _" <thep...@jonez.net> wrote:
Benj wrote:
<snip>
This from Benj the bigoted racist.
LOL!
I see as usual, "prof." Jonez-bot refutes my points one by one with
clear reasoned logic and facts...
LOL!
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On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:34:33 -0700, Benj wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:14 am, Robert <no...@noplace.nowhere> wrote:
Name calling. I can stoop that low.
Accidentally? If one dropped the gun and it fired then it would be
accidentally. This guy purposely shot at an object that he did not
clearly identify before hand. First rule of hunting is to clearly
identify your target.
QUESTION: Were you BORN a moron or did you acquire it after your
"liberal" education? When you finally learn to READ, you'll find out
that the guy who was shot was WEARING CAMOFLAGE EVEN ON HIS GUN AND
FACE! How can one "identifiy" a target that is purposely covered up so
as to NOT be "identified"?
Moron.
Pay attention numnuts!
My point exactly. He could not identify the target so he should not have
fired in the first place. I'll bet you got that 'dumber then a rock'
feeling right about now.
This guy should be charged with murder. He shot and killed someone
without clearly identifying his target. Anyone hunting that shots
someone should be charged with murder. Just because you are hunting is
no excuse.
You are obligated to clearly identify your target before pulling the
trigger. There should be no room for question here.
Why do all you liberals hate guns, but LOVE death and destruction? You
always want to kill someone or lock them up or ruin their lives...
especially if they are white males. No thoughts about this family man
and his 6 year old son are there?
Hateful bigot.
Pay CLOSE attention now!
I believe in the right of everyone to own, carry and use a firearm. I
also believe that our rights should not be taken away because some numnuts
or jackass doesn't know the first thing about hunting safety.
Speaking of 'No thoughts about this family man and his 6 year old son'.
What about the family of the person who was shot and killed? They don't
count I guess in your eyes. They should take one for the hunters so the
hunter can continue to hunt and shot another hunter.
Tell me something, are you as big of a disappointment to your parents as
you are to everyone else in your life?
That 'dumber then a rock' feeling has to be getting stronger in you
now.
If someone with a permit to carry would shoot someone just because they
thought the person was going to do them harm would go to jail for a
very long time. Why should hunting be any different?
If someone with a permit had reason to believe the person was going to
harm them EVEN IF THEY HAD NO EVIDENCE OF A WEAPON (as in your house
[PAUSE]
How did we go from outside to in the house? Oh yeah, you need to justify
your comment.
FYI not everyone who has a firearm has a permit. Permits are normally
needed to carry in public. Since we are taking permits.
[CONTINUE]
uninvited at night) You don't go to jail, you don't even get arrested.
It's totally justifiable manslaughter.
LIAR.
It might have been a justifiable shooting, would depend on the laws for
that area. Not sure about justifiable manslaughter. Legal issue, I'm sure
you understand seeing how you know the law so well.
That 'dumber then a rock' feeling has got to be getting stronger.
It is time that the so called accidental shootings while hunting be
held accountable for their actions like anyone else would be for
shooting a person. There are too many "want to be" hunters out there
now that shoot at anything just because they think it is game.
You mean it's time more gun owners were arrested on trumped-up bogus
charges so that you and yours can take power one day without any
resistance from "the people". Your agenda is SO obvious
Please explain how shooting someone equates to 'trumped-up bogus charges'.
If someone is shot then the charges aren't 'trumped-up' and/or 'bogus'
as you state.
YES. My AGENDA is clear. To keep my rights for being taken away because
of some numnuts or jackass like yourself. It is always the many that
suffer because of the few or the one. I am tired of it and would love to
see numnuts and jackasses goto jail and spare my rights!
I'm sure if you check that 'dumber then a rock' meeter you'll see
it getting close to 90% by now.
Brownshirt Nazi.
It just amazes me how you can see through a person.
You shoot someone while hunting, you goto directly to jail. Do not
pass GO. Do not collect a get out of jail free card because you were
hunting. Unless that person was dressed up in a deerskin or something
else you were hunting there is no excuse for shooting someone. Clearly
you were irresponsible and did not clearly identify your target.
How about the first step is to get an education and start with learning
to READ! Any idea what camouflage is? yeah I thought not. You just made
my case for me. If the guy was NOT in a tree and was sitting in a lawn
chair wearing a Hawaiian shirt, while playing a trumpet, yeah you just
MIGHT have a case. But as it is, you only show how stupid you really
are.
You should really stop ASSUMING things. Just makes you look more like the
@ss you really are.
I know what camouflage is. It's the bright greens, oranges and reds that
they use so people can see them. I'll bet you believe this too.
WARNING!! 'dumber then a rock' meeter at 100%.
Idiot.
Yes, you are soo wise while the rest of us are sooo dumb. Maybe we should
all start to worship you...... NOT!
By the way, if you can shake off that 'dumber then a rock' feeling post
again. You really are smart, at least in your own mind.
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Robert
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n Mar 26, 11:43 am, Robert <no...@noplace.nowhere> wrote:
Name calling. I can stoop that low.
As can just about everyone else in this group! :-)
Pay attention numnuts!
Um, that would be "numbnuts", numskull!
My point exactly. He could not identify the target so he should not have
fired in the first place. I'll bet you got that 'dumber then a rock'
feeling right about now.
Sorry, the one who is "dumber then a rock" (sic) is YOU! If you are
firing at ONE target which you HAVE identified and there is some
CAMOUFLAGED target there too, the shooter is NOT engaged in unsafe
practice. The person in the camouflage is!
Boy, I'll bet you feel stupid about now!
Hateful bigot.
Pay CLOSE attention now!
I believe in the right of everyone to own, carry and use a firearm. I
also believe that our rights should not be taken away because some numnuts
or jackass doesn't know the first thing about hunting safety.
Good for you! But I don't believe we need people on our side of this
debate giving ammunition to those trying to take away rights by
calling for abuse and arrest and prosecution and DEATH (penalty for
murder!) of someone who is clearly the victim of an accident caused by
the person shot! What is next? Shall we call for prosecution for
murder of anyone who "allows" themselves to be robbed of a gun which
is later used by a criminal in a killing? Yeah, that's "reasonable"
right?
Speaking of 'No thoughts about this family man and his 6 year old son'.
What about the family of the person who was shot and killed? They don't
count I guess in your eyes. They should take one for the hunters so the
hunter can continue to hunt and shot another hunter.
Are you saying that one family is MORE important than another? Are you
saying the family that helps your agenda counts but the other one
doesn't? Hey if you do something stupid and win the Darwin Award,
I'll feel sorry for you family, but only for the fact that you've been
allowed to reproduce!
Tell me something, are you as big of a disappointment to your parents as
you are to everyone else in your life?
Do you still beat your wife?
That 'dumber then a rock' feeling has to be getting stronger in you
now.
For you, I'm sure it ISN'T! You are so DUMB you can't even figure out
that you are dumb!
If someone with a permit to carry would shoot someone just because they
thought the person was going to do them harm would go to jail for a
very long time. Why should hunting be any different?
[PAUSE]
How did we go from outside to in the house? Oh yeah, you need to justify
your comment.
[PAUSE]
Lessee. We got outside the house by YOU bringing up people with a
carry permit, numbskull! Which was, Oh yeah, brought up to justify
your unjustified charges against the shooting hunter! And we will
observe here quietly that your statement is a blatant lie. IF you are
"pro-gun" I'd hate to see what anti-gunners are like!
FYI not everyone who has a firearm has a permit. Permits are normally
needed to carry in public. Since we are taking permits.
Hey, Mr. Genius, go READ your post. I said READ, as in UNDERSTANDING
THE WORDS YOU WROTE. I left it copied above so you won't have to lift
a finger to go see that YOU brought up the disingenuous subject of
carry permits!
It might have been a justifiable shooting, would depend on the laws for
that area. Not sure about justifiable manslaughter. Legal issue, I'm sure
you understand seeing how you know the law so well.
You are implying I"m not correct, but have not actually SAID SO. So
answer this: ARE there LAWS that say if you kill someone who is trying
to kill you it is not justified? Well, in the Yoo Kay that is
certainly true! Self-defense is NOT permitted there! But that doesn't
mean that self defense is not a right of all men and animals and other
living creatures as well. The Brit idea is totally unnatural,
although I'm sure it appeals to you!
That 'dumber then a rock' feeling has got to be getting stronger.
Whistling in the dark! Haven't you embarrassed yourself enough on this
world forum yet?
Please explain how shooting someone equates to 'trumped-up bogus charges'.
If someone is shot then the charges aren't 'trumped-up' and/or 'bogus'
as you state.
Are you making a statement that in your opinion accidents never
happen? Are you actually stupid enough to make that kind of ignorant
statement in public and then call someone else "numnuts"? If we went
with your idea why would we need any juries? It's be simple. The
hunter shot someone, the hunter dies! Shall we start with Dick
Cheney? (Actually... nevermind!)
YES. My AGENDA is clear. To keep my rights for being taken away because
of some numnuts or jackass like yourself. It is always the many that
suffer because of the few or the one. I am tired of it and would love to
see numnuts and jackasses goto jail and spare my rights!
Sure, you plan to keep "rights" by blind prosecution of anyone
involved in a hunting accident! No consideration of facts, just Bif
Bam, someone gets shot the shooter dies! Now THAT really protects all
our "rights", No? Nothing like an all-powerful police state to keep
us all free! Just WHO do you think you are fooling here?
I'm sure if you check that 'dumber then a rock' meeter you'll see
it getting close to 90% by now.
Nope, it's way up against the PEG! (of course I have it pointed at
YOU!)
Brownshirt Nazi.
It just amazes me how you can see through a person.
See? Cripes? Don't you ever READ what you write? Tell me again how
*I* brought up the issue of concealed carry! Look, if you intend to
debate an issue, you really need to remember the points you've made so
far!
You shoot someone while hunting, you goto directly to jail. Do not
pass GO. Do not collect a get out of jail free card because you were
hunting. Unless that person was dressed up in a deerskin or something
else you were hunting there is no excuse for shooting someone. Clearly
you were irresponsible and did not clearly identify your target.
irresponsible lies!
How about the first step is to get an education and start with learning
to READ! Any idea what camouflage is? yeah I thought not. You just made
my case for me. If the guy was NOT in a tree and was sitting in a lawn
chair wearing a Hawaiian shirt, while playing a trumpet, yeah you just
MIGHT have a case. But as it is, you only show how stupid you really
are.
You should really stop ASSUMING things. Just makes you look more like the
@ss you really are.
Duh! Assume? Just READ what YOU wrote, dummy!
I know what camouflage is. It's the bright greens, oranges and reds that
they use so people can see them. I'll bet you believe this too.
WARNING!! 'dumber then a rock' meeter at 100%.
BWAHAHAHAHahahahaha!!!!!!!
Camouflage is bright colors so people can SEE them!!!!! <snort>! Oh
sure, you are a REAL hunter!!!!
That dumb "meeter" just blew up!!!! LOL!
Hint: The first step in learning to "reed" is to learn to spell.
Just WHO are you trying to fool here? You are SUCH A liar! Liste
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On Mar 22, 1:07 pm, "_ Prof. Jonez _" <thep...@jonez.net> wrote:
Turkey Hunter Mistakenly Shoots, Kills Camouflaged Man In Tree
POSTED: 4:11 pm EDT March 21, 2008
UPDATED: 7:05 pm EDT March 21, 2008
POLK COUNTY, Fla. -- A camouflaged hunter sitting in a tree was accidentally
shot and killed Friday by another hunter trying to shoot a turkey, according to
the Polk County Sheriff's Office.
Investigators said Michael Shane Hasting, 40, was hunting with his 6-year-old
son at the River Ranch Acres Hunt Club Friday and spotted a turkey.
Hasting fired at the turkey and moved forward to see if he hit the bird. He then
discovered that he accidentally shot Randall Williamson of Pompano Beach.
Williamson was in the wooded area sitting in what is known as a squatter's chair
and wearing camouflage clothing and mesh over his face, according to a Polk
County sheriff's news release. He was also holding a camouflage shotgun.
Detectives are treating the incident as an accidental shooting and no charges
will be filed, according to officials.
Well, the story I got was that the shooter saw and shot at a turkey
which he identified as such.
They 'victim' was completely camouflaged and therefore concealed from
view of the shooter IE 'invisible'; sitting on a chair on the ground.
"Investigators said Michael Shane Hasting, 40, was hunting with his 6-
year-old
son at the River Ranch Acres Hunt Club Friday and spotted a turkey.
Hasting fired at the turkey and moved forward to see if he hit the
bird. He then
discovered that he accidentally shot Randall Williamson of Pompano
Beach.
Williamson was in the wooded area sitting in what is known as a
squatter's chair
and wearing camouflage clothing and mesh over his face, according to a
Polk
County sheriff's news release. He was also holding a camouflage
shotgun. "
Those who hunt turkeys know that:
Complete concealment is important to turkey hunting because of the
turkeys keen vision.
Wearing red/orange is discouraged in many states during turkey season
because it may be mistaken for the bright coloring on the turkeys
head.
Hunters are advised to sit with a tree or other protection at their
back.
'Still hunting' is discouraged because it could result in an
accidental shooting.
(Information available in the Vermont Hunter Safety Manual)
It is unknown whether the shooter was still hunting or on a stand.
It is unknown whether the 'victim' was shot in the front or the back.
It may be assumed that the 'victim' was on stand by the use of his
chair.
I find it difficult to call it more than a tragic accident without
further details.
Unlike the gun-grabbers, I like to have sufficient facts before
jumping to a conclusion and condemning someone (or something) who may
be innocent.
So hon. Prof. Jones,
Do continue to piss in the wind.
Regards,
Rider
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Rider wrote:
On Mar 22, 1:07 pm, "_ Prof. Jonez _" <thep...@jonez.net> wrote:
Well, the story I got was that the shooter saw and shot at a turkey
which he identified as such.
They 'victim' was completely camouflaged and therefore concealed from
view of the shooter IE 'invisible'; sitting on a chair on the ground.
"Investigators said Michael Shane Hasting, 40, was hunting with his 6-
year-old
son at the River Ranch Acres Hunt Club Friday and spotted a turkey.
Hasting fired at the turkey and moved forward to see if he hit the
bird. He then
discovered that he accidentally shot Randall Williamson of Pompano
Beach.
Williamson was in the wooded area sitting in what is known as a
squatter's chair
and wearing camouflage clothing and mesh over his face, according to a
Polk
County sheriff's news release. He was also holding a camouflage
shotgun. "
Those who hunt turkeys know that:
Complete concealment is important to turkey hunting because of the
turkeys keen vision.
Wearing red/orange is discouraged in many states during turkey season
because it may be mistaken for the bright coloring on the turkeys
head.
Hunters are advised to sit with a tree or other protection at their
back.
'Still hunting' is discouraged because it could result in an
accidental shooting.
(Information available in the Vermont Hunter Safety Manual)
It is unknown whether the shooter was still hunting or on a stand.
It is unknown whether the 'victim' was shot in the front or the back.
It may be assumed that the 'victim' was on stand by the use of his
chair.
I find it difficult to call it more than a tragic accident without
further details.
Unlike the gun-grabbers, I like to have sufficient facts before
jumping to a conclusion and condemning someone (or something) who may
be innocent.
Score
Turkeys - 1
Inbred Hunters - 0
So hon. Prof. Jones,
Do continue to piss in the wind.
Put on some camo, then I can "accidentally" piss on you.
Regards,
Rider
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So hon. Prof. Jones,
Do continue to piss in the wind.
Put on some camo, then I can "accidentally" piss on you.
Exactly who's the violent one here who shouldn't be trusted with a firearm?
Hypocrite.
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n Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:52:12 -0700, Benj wrote:
Dude, you are just too funny. I guess it is true what people are saying
about you. To dumb to know the difference between an outhouse and the
kitchen. I don't expect you to understand this one as you clearly didn't
understand most of what I wrote.
Name calling. I can stoop that low.
As can just about everyone else in this group! :-)
Now that that is cleared up.
Pay attention numnuts!
Um, that would be "numbnuts", numskull!
No, for you it's numnuts.
My point exactly. He could not identify the target so he should not
have fired in the first place. I'll bet you got that 'dumber then a
rock' feeling right about now.
Sorry, the one who is "dumber then a rock" (sic) is YOU! If you are
firing at ONE target which you HAVE identified and there is some
CAMOUFLAGED target there too, the shooter is NOT engaged in unsafe
practice. The person in the camouflage is! Boy, I'll bet you feel
stupid about now!
So you are saying that there was a turkey sitting next to the hunter and
he got shot because of it?
Hateful bigot.
Pay CLOSE attention now!
I believe in the right of everyone to own, carry and use a firearm. I
also believe that our rights should not be taken away because some
numnuts or jackass doesn't know the first thing about hunting safety.
Good for you! But I don't believe we need people on our side of this
debate giving ammunition to those trying to take away rights by calling
for abuse and arrest and prosecution and DEATH (penalty for murder!) of
someone who is clearly the victim of an accident caused by the person
shot! What is next? Shall we call for prosecution for murder of anyone
who "allows" themselves to be robbed of a gun which is later used by a
criminal in a killing? Yeah, that's "reasonable" right?
How did the person being shot cause this issue? Did he ask to be shot?
Yes, I know by your reasoning because he was wearing camouflage he was at
fault.
Speaking of 'No thoughts about this family man and his 6 year old son'.
What about the family of the person who was shot and killed? They
don't count I guess in your eyes. They should take one for the hunters
so the hunter can continue to hunt and shot another hunter.
Are you saying that one family is MORE important than another? Are you
saying the family that helps your agenda counts but the other one
doesn't? Hey if you do something stupid and win the Darwin Award, I'll
feel sorry for you family, but only for the fact that you've been
allowed to reproduce!
No, that was your words. The quote above is from you not me. You are the
one stating that we should consider his family, just like the defends
lawyer. Funny how after the fact everyone worries about the defends
rights. What about the victims rights? They seem to always be brushed
aside. Victims have or had rights to but no one stands up for their
rights after the fact.
Tell me something, are you as big of a disappointment to your parents
as you are to everyone else in your life?
Do you still beat your wife?
Yes, and she loves every minute of it too. You should try kinky sex some
time. It might relieve some of those tensions you have building up inside
you.
That 'dumber then a rock' feeling has to be getting stronger in you
now.
For you, I'm sure it ISN'T! You are so DUMB you can't even figure out
that you are dumb!
Dang, well thank you for letting me know.
If someone with a permit to carry would shoot someone just because
they thought the person was going to do them harm would go to jail
for a very long time. Why should hunting be any different?
If someone with a permit had reason to believe the person was going
to harm them EVEN IF THEY HAD NO EVIDENCE OF A WEAPON (as in your
house
[PAUSE]
How did we go from outside to in the house? Oh yeah, you need to
justify your comment.
[PAUSE]
Lessee. We got outside the house by YOU bringing up people with a carry
permit, numbskull! Which was, Oh yeah, brought up to justify your
unjustified charges against the shooting hunter! And we will observe
here quietly that your statement is a blatant lie. IF you are "pro-gun"
I'd hate to see what anti-gunners are like!
There is a difference between being pro-gun and being stupid thinking that
such a shooting should just be chalked up as a learning experience.
FYI not everyone who has a firearm has a permit. Permits are normally
needed to carry in public. Since we are taking permits.
Hey, Mr. Genius, go READ your post. I said READ, as in UNDERSTANDING THE
WORDS YOU WROTE. I left it copied above so you won't have to lift a
finger to go see that YOU brought up the disingenuous subject of carry
permits!
You are implying I"m not correct, but have not actually SAID SO. So
answer this: ARE there LAWS that say if you kill someone who is trying
to kill you it is not justified? Well, in the Yoo Kay that is certainly
true! Self-defense is NOT permitted there! But that doesn't mean that
self defense is not a right of all men and animals and other living
creatures as well. The Brit idea is totally unnatural, although I'm
sure it appeals to you!
Whistling in the dark! Haven't you embarrassed yourself enough on this
world forum yet?
That coming from someone who can tell the difference between what is
written and what is implied.
Please explain how shooting someone equates to 'trumped-up bogus
charges'. If someone is shot then the charges aren't 'trumped-up'
and/or 'bogus' as you state.
Are you making a statement that in your opinion accidents never happen?
Are you actually stupid enough to make that kind of ignorant statement
in public and then call someone else "numnuts"? If we went with your
idea why would we need any juries? It's be simple. The hunter shot
someone, the hunter dies! Shall we start with Dick Cheney? (Actually...
nevermind!)
Please show where I state that ACCIDENTS never happen. I have stated that
this type of shooting should never happen. Now get down off you pile of
#@($. You are beginning to stink.
YES. My AGENDA is clear. To keep my rights for being taken away
because of some numnuts or jackass like yourself. It is always the
many that suffer because of the few or the one. I am tired of it and
would love to see numnuts and jackasses goto jail and spare my rights!
Sure, you plan to keep "rights" by blind prosecution of anyone involved
in a hunting accident! No consideration of facts, just Bif Bam, someone
gets shot the shooter dies! Now THAT really protects all our "rights",
No? Nothing like an all-powerful police state to keep us all free! Just
WHO do you think you are fooling here?
Here is what I would like you to do. It's not hard and could help you.
Even save your life. Grab both ears and pull. When you hear a popping sound you ma
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Mr. Albritton wrote:
So hon. Prof. Jones,
Do continue to piss in the wind.
Put on some camo, then I can "accidentally" piss on you.
Exactly who's the violent one here who shouldn't be trusted with a
firearm?
Urination = Violence?
Hypocrite.
Delusional @$#*-chop.
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