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(DETROIT) In a decision that's expected to send shockwaves through the African-American community--and yet, give much relief to teachers everywhere--a federal judge ruled today that black women no longer have independent naming rights for their children. Too many black children-- and many adults--bear names that border on not even being words, he said. "I am simply tired of these ridiculous names black women are giving their children," said U.S. Federal Judge Ryan Cabrera before rendering his decision. "Someone had to put a stop to it." The rule applies to all black women, but Cabrera singled out impoverished mothers. "They are the worst perpetrators," he said. "They put in apostrophes where none are needed. They think a 'Q' is a must. There was a time when Shaniqua and Tawanda were names you dreaded. Now, if you're a black girl, you hope you get a name as sensible as one of those." Few stepped forward to defend black women--and black women themselves seemed relieved. "It's so hard to keep coming up with something unique," said Uneeqqi Jenkins, 22, an African-American mother of seven who survives on public assistance. Her children are named Daryl, Q'Antity, Uhlleejsha, Cray-Ig, Fellisittee, Tay'Sh'awn and Day'Shawndra. Beginning in one week, at least three white people must agree with the name before a black mother can name her child. "Hopefully we can see a lot more black children with sensible names like Jake and Connor," Cabrera said. His ruling stemmed from a lawsuit brought by a 13-year-old girl whose mother created her name using Incan hieroglyphics. "She said it would make me stand out," said the girl, whose name can't be reproduced by The Peoples News' technology. "But it's really just stupid." The National Association of Elementary School Teachers celebrated Cabrera's decision. "Oh my God, the first day of school you'd be standing there sweating, looking at the list of names wondering 'How do I pronounce Q'J'Q'Sha.'?" said Joyce Harmon, NAEST spokeswoman. "Is this even English?" The practice of giving black children outlandish names began in the 1960s, when blacks were getting in touch with their African roots, said historian Corlione Vest. But even he admits it got out of hand. "I have a niece who's six. I'm embarrassed to say I can't even pronounce her name," said Vest, a professor at Princeton University. "Whenever I want to talk to her, I just wait until she looks at me and then I wave her over." Cabrera's ruling exempted black men because "so few of them are actually involved in their children's lives."
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How about posting a TRUE legal news story??
(DETROIT) In a decision that's expected to send shockwaves through the African-American community--and yet, give much relief to teachers everywhere--a federal judge ruled today that black women no longer have independent naming rights for their children. Too many black children-- and many adults--bear names that border on not even being words, he said. "I am simply tired of these ridiculous names black women are giving their children," said U.S. Federal Judge Ryan Cabrera before rendering his decision. "Someone had to put a stop to it." The rule applies to all black women, but Cabrera singled out impoverished mothers. "They are the worst perpetrators," he said. "They put in apostrophes where none are needed. They think a 'Q' is a must. There was a time when Shaniqua and Tawanda were names you dreaded. Now, if you're a black girl, you hope you get a name as sensible as one of those." Few stepped forward to defend black women--and black women themselves seemed relieved. "It's so hard to keep coming up with something unique," said Uneeqqi Jenkins, 22, an African-American mother of seven who survives on public assistance. Her children are named Daryl, Q'Antity, Uhlleejsha, Cray-Ig, Fellisittee, Tay'Sh'awn and Day'Shawndra. Beginning in one week, at least three white people must agree with the name before a black mother can name her child. "Hopefully we can see a lot more black children with sensible names like Jake and Connor," Cabrera said. His ruling stemmed from a lawsuit brought by a 13-year-old girl whose mother created her name using Incan hieroglyphics. "She said it would make me stand out," said the girl, whose name can't be reproduced by The Peoples News' technology. "But it's really just stupid." The National Association of Elementary School Teachers celebrated Cabrera's decision. "Oh my God, the first day of school you'd be standing there sweating, looking at the list of names wondering 'How do I pronounce Q'J'Q'Sha.'?" said Joyce Harmon, NAEST spokeswoman. "Is this even English?" The practice of giving black children outlandish names began in the 1960s, when blacks were getting in touch with their African roots, said historian Corlione Vest. But even he admits it got out of hand. "I have a niece who's six. I'm embarrassed to say I can't even pronounce her name," said Vest, a professor at Princeton University. "Whenever I want to talk to her, I just wait until she looks at me and then I wave her over." Cabrera's ruling exempted black men because "so few of them are actually involved in their children's lives."
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On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:23:04 -0700 (PDT), katbo <bongokat@hotmail.com> wrote:
(DETROIT) In a decision that's expected to send shockwaves through the African-American community--and yet, give much relief to teachers everywhere--a federal judge ruled today that black women no longer have independent naming rights for their children. Too many black children-- and many adults--bear names that border on not even being words, he said.
On your way out, let the door slam your white ass hard. No single judge can create a new law as it is. When contested in a higher court, his ruling would automatically be overturned as being in violation of the 1st amendment. Not to mention probably civil rights violations. Specially the part where it says 3 white people must agree. That's bull#@($. For your efforts in journalism, you get an F. As in @$#*head.
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richard <i.do.not@ca.re> wrote in news:abkqu39i88964rt6h4pt761o0vul3f6k9a@ 4ax.com:
On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:23:04 -0700 (PDT), katbo <bongokat@hotmail.com> wrote: On your way out, let the door slam your white ass hard. No single judge can create a new law as it is. When contested in a higher court, his ruling would automatically be overturned as being in violation of the 1st amendment. Not to mention probably civil rights violations. Specially the part where it says 3 white people must agree. That's bull#@($. For your efforts in journalism, you get an F. As in @$#*head.
How about this, richard? Before you post anything, count to ten. And then don't click "send." It will stop you from looking silly.
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I think it is outrageous and obscene for a Judge to put any type of ban on African American sounding names. It is completely uncostitutional. Names have been a sensitive issue in the Black community for quite some time. The issue is particularly sensitive for me because my name, Manisha, is Middle Eastern/ Indian and people always have difficulty pronouncing my name. The part that bothers me most when the issue is brought up is the fact that African American names are always singled out. No one would ever dare criticize Hispanic or Asian people for naming their children names that are traditional within their culture or names that may be difficult to read or pronounce. Furthermore, when Caucasions name their babies Apple, Cocoa, Rumour etc. no one calls them ghetto. But Sha'Quanna is ghetto? What about Condoleezza, Oprah, Beyonce, Montell, LeBron, Shaquille???? It is digusting that Black people are too stupid to see that the problem is not so much with the names as it is with the ignorance, discrimination and intolerance amoung others.
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lillibrarianlady@gmail.com wrote in news:270f5262-ded8-4d59-abbf- 8b261cbc2188@b64g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
I think it is outrageous and obscene for a Judge to put any type of ban on African American sounding names. It is completely uncostitutional. Names have been a sensitive issue in the Black community for quite some time. The issue is particularly sensitive for me because my name, Manisha, is Middle Eastern/ Indian and people always have difficulty pronouncing my name. The part that bothers me most when the issue is brought up is the fact that African American names are always singled out. No one would ever dare criticize Hispanic or Asian people for naming their children names that are traditional within their culture or names that may be difficult to read or pronounce. Furthermore, when Caucasions name their babies Apple, Cocoa, Rumour etc. no one calls them ghetto. But Sha'Quanna is ghetto? What about Condoleezza, Oprah, Beyonce, Montell, LeBron, Shaquille???? It is digusting that Black people are too stupid to see that the problem is not so much with the names as it is with the ignorance, discrimination and intolerance amoung others.
I take it Manisha is Middle Eastern/Indian for clueless?
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On Mar 28, 1:18=A0pm, richard <i.do....@ca.re> wrote:
On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:23:04 -0700 (PDT), katbo <bongo...@hotmail.com> wrote: On your way out, let the door slam your white ass hard. No single judge can create a new law as it is. When contested in a higher court, his ruling would automatically be overturned as being in violation of the 1st amendment. Not to mention probably civil rights violations. Specially the part where it says 3 white people must agree. That's bull#@($. For your efforts in journalism, you get an F. As in @$#*head.
Hi Richard. You is a @$#*ing idiotz. As yousual. Moran. Imdweebcible. Fucktard. http://thepeoplesnews.wordpress.com/2008/03/02/federal-judge-enough-with-the= -stupid-names/
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I think it is outrageous and obscene for a Judge to put any type of ban on African American sounding names. It is completely uncostitutional. Names have been a sensitive issue in the Black community for quite some time. The issue is particularly sensitive for me because my name, Manisha, is Middle Eastern/ Indian and people always have difficulty pronouncing my name. The part that bothers me most when the issue is brought up is the fact that African American names are always singled out. No one would ever dare criticize Hispanic or Asian people for naming their children names that are traditional within their culture or names that may be difficult to read or pronounce. Furthermore, when Caucasions name their babies Apple, Cocoa, Rumour etc. no one calls them ghetto. But Sha'Quanna is ghetto? What about Condoleezza, Oprah, Beyonce, Montell, LeBron, Shaquille???? It is digusting that Black people are too stupid to see that the problem is not so much with the names as it is with the ignorance, discrimination and intolerance amoung others.
Why are you upset over a fake news story?
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On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:32:48 GMT, Deadrat <a@b.com> wrote:
richard <i.do.not@ca.re> wrote in news:abkqu39i88964rt6h4pt761o0vul3f6k9a@ 4ax.com: How about this, richard? Before you post anything, count to ten. And then don't click "send." It will stop you from looking silly.
practice what you preach
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richard <i.do.not@ca.re> wrote in news:9g9ru358haai7lqism567rg8b214098jjv@4ax.com:
On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:32:48 GMT, Deadrat <a@b.com> wrote: practice what you preach
I'm willing to accept correction (and have) from certain people on this newsgroup. But not from you. And certainly not on the subject of looking foolish. And your response to a joke post is only a small part of the reason.
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On Mar 28, 3:41=A0pm, lillibrarianl...@gmail.com wrote:
I think it is outrageous and obscene for a Judge to put any type of ban on African American sounding names. It is completely uncostitutional. Names have been a sensitive issue in the Black community for quite some time. The issue is particularly sensitive for me because my name, Manisha, is Middle Eastern/ Indian and people always have difficulty pronouncing my name. The part that bothers me most when the issue is brought up is the fact that African American names are always singled out. No one would ever dare criticize Hispanic or Asian people for naming their children names that are traditional within their culture or names that may be difficult to read or pronounce. Furthermore, when Caucasions name their babies Apple, Cocoa, Rumour etc. no one calls them ghetto. But Sha'Quanna is ghetto? What about Condoleezza, Oprah, Beyonce, Montell, LeBron, Shaquille???? It is digusting that Black people are too stupid to see that the problem is not so much with the names as it is with the ignorance, discrimination and intolerance amoung others.
"It is digusting that Black people are too stupid to see that the problem is not so much with the names.." - Are you slow? You started off so well.. very articulate even, and initially, your arguement was heart felt. However, I'm sorry.. but, how do you go from "The part that bothers me most when the issue is brought up is the fact that African American names are always singled out." to "It is digusting that Black people are too stupid to see that the problem is not so much with the names.." A bit confused? (maybe) If not, definitely slow (or,.. as to not sound as ignorant as 1/2 the board.. including yourself dear.. maybe you are just misguided). I think the best part of this entire board is.. YES folks.. it was a hoax! I mean seriously.. the news media is bad.. but NOT THAT BAD! Seems whoever posted the phoney "new article" forgot to post the disclaimer below it (which I will gladly provide for your viewing pleasure.. but mostly to mute the people who are actually spending time sitting at their PC's arguing a dead issue). IT'S NOT REAL.. so there is no arguement folks. Let's use our brains to debate something that is actually debateable. THIS IS NOT! "This entry was posted on March 2, 2008 at 7:16 am and is filed under Humor, Satire. Tagged: Humor, Satire. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site." But for arguments sake.. lillibrarianl, I do not think it's black people that are having a hard time understanding the ignorance or where it comes from. I think you have that backwards. We are subject to the ignorance (this hoax article circulating is proof) .. and we understand it quite clear. Where it comes from? It's not fare to try to point a finger but.. it is what it is.. laugh and get over it. Or don't.. get offended by the person who wrote it. But don't be mad at black people.. I'm sure it's not that serious. NOT EVEN FOR BLACK PEOPLE (survey's show)! I found it funny.. but maybe only because I have a pretty common British name - Denise.
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