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Is there anything I should know having a non-lawyer represent me in an eviction case for keeping a dog which will probably be deemed a legal therapy dog?



bingbuffer11375@verizon.net
3/30/2008 3:50:43 PM


Hi,
The co-op board for my building in is in the process of trying to
evict me because I'm not allowed to have a dog in my apartment (which
I own it, if that makes a difference). I had a lawyer in the
beginning, but not anymore because he's too expensive.
He went to court for me one day about two months ago. The co-op
board's lawyers want to wait to take me to court again because I have
sent away for papers to have my dog deemed a legal "therapy dog" and a
"service dog" and I suppose they are waiting to see if my request(s)
get granted. (I sent the proper government agencies a letter from my
psychiatrist stating that I suffer from depression and that my whole
social life revolves around my dog.)
My mother will be acting as my new council. That is, she will be
speaking to the co-op board's lawyers over the phone and if my case
goes to court, she will be representing me.
Since she isn't a lawyer, I was hoping that someone in here can give
me any advice that laypeople probably wouldn't know about.
Thanks to anyone who helps me.
CT
P.S. I was hoping someone can tell me what the approximate odds are
that the judge will rule in my favor if my dog does get declared a
legal "therapy dog" and/or a "service dog." I live in the state of New
York, if that is of any kind of relevance. Also, the dog is only 21 or
22 pounds.
 
 
Larry
3/30/2008 6:57:02 PM


In article
<113f6040-c0b4-4a32-bd83-58ef711c15e6@d62g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
bingbuffer11375@verizon.net wrote:
Hi,
The co-op board for my building in is in the process of trying to
evict me because I'm not allowed to have a dog in my apartment (which
I own it, if that makes a difference). I had a lawyer in the
beginning, but not anymore because he's too expensive.
He went to court for me one day about two months ago. The co-op
board's lawyers want to wait to take me to court again because I have
sent away for papers to have my dog deemed a legal "therapy dog" and a
"service dog" and I suppose they are waiting to see if my request(s)
get granted. (I sent the proper government agencies a letter from my
psychiatrist stating that I suffer from depression and that my whole
social life revolves around my dog.)
My mother will be acting as my new council. That is, she will be
speaking to the co-op board's lawyers over the phone and if my case
goes to court, she will be representing me.
Since she isn't a lawyer, I was hoping that someone in here can give
me any advice that laypeople probably wouldn't know about.
Thanks to anyone who helps me.
CT
P.S. I was hoping someone can tell me what the approximate odds are
that the judge will rule in my favor if my dog does get declared a
legal "therapy dog" and/or a "service dog." I live in the state of New
York, if that is of any kind of relevance. Also, the dog is only 21 or
22 pounds.
I can't say anything about the merits of your argument, but I don't know
of any court that would let your mother represent you. You always have
the right to represent yourself, but if someone else does it, that
person has to be a lawyer.
 
 
bingbuffer11375@verizon.net
3/30/2008 4:11:15 PM


You always have
the right to represent yourself, but if someone else does it, that
person has to be a lawyer.
Thank you. I neglected to mention it's a civil court or at least I
think it is. If my memory serves me, it was a paralegal who showed up
in court to represent the co-op board, but I've never spoken to my
lawyer--my mother does for me. I could be misremembering though, and
if I remember right, my mother wasn't sure whether she heard right
when she told me that.
 
 
"GeekBoy"
3/30/2008 7:11:59 PM




<bingbuffer11375@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:692c567d-8e6b-4bfd-b951-2c6fb9602817@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

You always have
the right to represent yourself, but if someone else does it, that
person has to be a lawyer.
Thank you. I neglected to mention it's a civil court or at least I
think it is. If my memory serves me, it was a paralegal who showed up
in court to represent the co-op board, but I've never spoken to my
lawyer--my mother does for me. I could be misremembering though, and
if I remember right, my mother wasn't sure whether she heard right
when she told me that.
You should instead look for a non profit legal aid organization in your
area.
 
 
"_ Prof. Jonez _"
3/30/2008 6:44:49 PM


bingbuffer11375@verizon.net wrote:
You always have
the right to represent yourself, but if someone else does it, that
person has to be a lawyer.
Thank you. I neglected to mention it's a civil court
Of course it's civil court ... and you still cannot have a non-lawyer
represent you, unless you represent yourself, in which case you
have a fool for a client.
or at least I think it is. If my memory serves me, it was a paralegal who
showed up
in court to represent the co-op board, but I've never spoken to my
lawyer--my mother does for me. I could be misremembering though, and
if I remember right, my mother wasn't sure whether she heard right
when she told me that.
Just kill yourself now, jackass, it'll save society the time, trouble and $$ ...
 
 
Special.Care03@googlemail.com
3/30/2008 6:00:09 PM


On 31 Mar, 01:44, "_ Prof. Jonez _" <thep...@jonez.net> wrote:
bingbuffer11...@verizon.net wrote:
You always have
the right to represent yourself, but if someone else does it, that
person has to be a lawyer.
Of course it's civil court ... and you still cannot have a non-lawyer
represent you, unless you represent yourself, in which case you
have a fool for a client.
Just kill yourself now, jackass, it'll save society the time, trouble and $$ ...
===============================================================
In England isn't there a concept called "McKenzie Friend?"
 
 
"_ Prof. Jonez _"
3/30/2008 7:26:31 PM


Special.Care03@googlemail.com wrote:
On 31 Mar, 01:44, "_ Prof. Jonez _" <thep...@jonez.net> wrote:
==================
In England isn't there a concept called "McKenzie Friend?"
So if this poster gets the venue changed to the UK, he can employ
the concept of "McKenzie's Mama" ...
 
 
"foad"
3/31/2008 1:59:17 AM




<bingbuffer11375@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:113f6040-c0b4-4a32-bd83-58ef711c15e6@d62g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

Hi,
The co-op board for my building in is in the process of trying to
evict me because I'm not allowed to have a dog in my apartment (which
I own it, if that makes a difference). I had a lawyer in the
beginning, but not anymore because he's too expensive.
He went to court for me one day about two months ago. The co-op
board's lawyers want to wait to take me to court again because I have
sent away for papers to have my dog deemed a legal "therapy dog" and a
"service dog" and I suppose they are waiting to see if my request(s)
get granted. (I sent the proper government agencies a letter from my
psychiatrist stating that I suffer from depression and that my whole
social life revolves around my dog.)
My mother will be acting as my new council. That is, she will be
speaking to the co-op board's lawyers over the phone and if my case
goes to court, she will be representing me.
Since she isn't a lawyer, I was hoping that someone in here can give
me any advice that laypeople probably wouldn't know about.
Thanks to anyone who helps me.
CT
P.S. I was hoping someone can tell me what the approximate odds are
that the judge will rule in my favor if my dog does get declared a
legal "therapy dog" and/or a "service dog." I live in the state of New
York, if that is of any kind of relevance. Also, the dog is only 21 or
22 pounds.
Do you have a disability of some sort?
 
 
bingbuffer11375@verizon.net
3/30/2008 8:29:29 PM


On Mar 30, 9:59=A0pm, "foad" <o...@ooo.org> wrote:
Do you have a disability of some sort?
Mentally I do. If I get papers from HUD saying I am disabled, then I
will be by law mentally disabled. So if the co-op board continues to
try to evict me, they will be denying a person with disability proper
accomodations.
 
 
Old Jinglebollocks
3/31/2008 12:57:45 AM


On 31 Mar, 02:26, "_ Prof. Jonez _" <thep...@jonez.net> wrote:
Special.Car...@googlemail.com wrote:
So if this poster gets the venue changed to the UK, he can employ
the concept of "McKenzie's Mama" ...- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
-------------------------------------------------
missed the beginning; someone crossposted to uk.legal without
explanation of what this is about or where it's taking place....
anyway, it looks like a spoof
 
 
Old Jinglebollocks
3/31/2008 12:58:13 AM


On 31 Mar, 02:26, "_ Prof. Jonez _" <thep...@jonez.net> wrote:
Special.Car...@googlemail.com wrote:
So if this poster gets the venue changed to the UK, he can employ
the concept of "McKenzie's Mama" ...- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
 
 
"Reality_Check©"
3/31/2008 2:00:21 AM




<bingbuffer11375@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:cafb9ede-f904-4797-847b-a291789e3de7@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...

On Mar 30, 9:59 pm, "foad" <o...@ooo.org> wrote:
Do you have a disability of some sort?
Mentally I do. If I get papers from HUD saying I am disabled, then I
will be by law mentally disabled. So if the co-op board continues to
try to evict me, they will be denying a person with disability proper
accomodations.
========
Only if your dog is as retarded as you are ... which is unlikely.
 
 
Richard Miller
3/31/2008 9:18:25 PM


In message
<ddc8702a-1fc9-4389-8b14-39e5111e4afb@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Special.Care03@googlemail.com writes
On 31 Mar, 01:44, "_ Prof. Jonez _" <thep...@jonez.net> wrote:
===============================================================
In England isn't there a concept called "McKenzie Friend?"
Now known as a "litigation friend". The idea is that the person can have
someone to assist them in presenting their own case. In theory, the
person cannot actually make arguments or conduct cross-examination, they
can only assist the litigant to do these things themselves, but in
practice many Courts will take a more pragmatic view and allow the
litigation friend considerable leeway.
--
Richard Miller
 
 
SmilingTiger
4/2/2008 5:41:28 AM


On Mar 30, 8:44 pm, "_ Prof. Jonez _" <thep...@jonez.net> wrote:
bingbuffer11...@verizon.net wrote:
You always have
the right to represent yourself, but if someone else does it, that
person has to be a lawyer.
Of course it's civil court ... and you still cannot have a non-lawyer
represent you, unless you represent yourself, in which case you
have a fool for a client.
Just kill yourself now, jackass, it'll save society the time, trouble and $$ ...
if you're stupid get a lawyer. if you are intelligent get a lawyer
who's going to give his best for you(the 5% club). most lawyers are
quacks.
 
 
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