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Driver Dies in Fiery Wrong-Way Truck Crash Caught on Video Watch the Video: http://www.myfoxdfw.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=6201569&version=1&locale=EN-US Wednesday, April 02, 2008 A Canadian truck driver drove into oncoming traffic for 20 minutes at high speeds before dying in a crash when the truck went over an abutment, as seen on eyewitness video obtained by FOX News. The truck driver had a medical condition that may have contributed to the incident, United Press International reported. In the dramatic video footage of the incident, the truck hits a concrete guard rail on an exit ramp near Edmonton, Alberta, becoming airborne and falling onto railroad tracks, before exploding. The truck clipped several cars and numerous others were forced into a ditch along the highway, but no one other than the truck's driver was hurt, according to the UPI report. The driver, 25-year-old Mark Santos, was an insulin-dependent diabetic, his brother Jordan Santos told the UPI. A witness of Monday's afternoon crash described the driver to reporters as looking "mad," "angry" and "zoned out." "He was basically slumped down, head down, bobbing around, arms hanging down at his side," Dave Hybeck told FOX News. The driver's brother said he's been around his brother when he's gone into hypoglycemia and Santos would be confused and sleepy. "You don't know what was going on inside of the cab of that vehicle; you don't know what that person was thinking, so all of those pieces are what our officers need to bring this to a conclusion," Edmonton Police spokesperson Karen Carlson told FOX News. Autopsy results were expected later in the week.
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We let convicted drunk drivers and speeders continue to drive so why not everyone?
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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
We let convicted drunk drivers and speeders continue to drive so why not everyone?
Sure, let's let blind people drive too, jackass.
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Hypoglycemia is a very real danger both for diabetics on glucose- lowering medications and those around them if they are operating heavy machinery. The brain absolutely requires glucose to function normally. Smarter to eat less, down to the right amount to possibly cure the type-2 diabetes: http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart A simple parable in hopes of promoting understanding: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow Reality_Check=A9 wrote:
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along the highway, but no one other than the truck's driver was hurt, according to the UPI report. The driver, 25-year-old Mark Santos, was an insulin-dependent diabetic, hi=
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Karen Carlson told FOX News. Autopsy results were expected later in the week.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Hypoglycemia is a very real danger both for diabetics on glucose- lowering medications and those around them if they are operating heavy machinery.
So should Diabetics be allowed to Drive ?
The brain absolutely requires glucose to function normally.
So should Diabetics be allowed to Drive ?
Smarter to eat less, down to the right amount to possibly cure the type-2 diabetes: http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart
So should Diabetics be allowed to Drive ?
A simple parable in hopes of promoting understanding: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable
So should Diabetics be allowed to Drive ?
Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier
So should Diabetics be allowed to Drive ?
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Your pathetic god hates diabetics.
Andrew <><
Reality_Check wrote:
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_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: So should Diabetics be allowed to Drive ?
Yes. However, it would be reasonable to consider revoking a driver's license if a diabetic is having frequent hypoglycemic episodes because his/her diabetes is not optimally managed to prevent such incapacitating events. The surest way of preventing hypoglycemia would be by curing the type-2 diabetes by losing the black fat (VAT). The smartest way of losing the VAT is by eating less, down to the right amount: http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart Again, a simple parable in hopes of promoting understanding: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow The brain absolutely requires glucose to function normally.
So should Diabetics be allowed to Drive ? So should Diabetics be allowed to Drive ? So should Diabetics be allowed to Drive ? So should Diabetics be allowed to Drive ? Your pathetic god hates diabetics.
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On Apr 3, 9:25 am, "_ Prof. Jonez _" <thep...@jonez.net> wrote:
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote: Sure, let's let blind people drive too, jackass.
Now that just shows how dumb you are if you think sight is not essential for driving!!!
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On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 12:02:56 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez _" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote: So should Diabetics be allowed to Drive ? So should Diabetics be allowed to Drive ? So should Diabetics be allowed to Drive ? So should Diabetics be allowed to Drive ? So should Diabetics be allowed to Drive ? Your pathetic god hates diabetics.
And shills. -- "Dave's not here, man!" - Tommy Chong
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On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 14:23:01 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdoc22@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote: Yes. However, it would be reasonable to consider revoking a driver's license if a diabetic is having frequent hypoglycemic episodes because his/her diabetes is not optimally managed to prevent such incapacitating events.
So let's say the guy had developed cataracts instead of diabetes; would you also want to wait until he had "frequent episodes" before you took his license away? What if the diabetic kills someone with his very first "episode?" Why do we have to wait for something bad to happen before we yank someone's license? -- "Dave's not here, man!" - Tommy Chong
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Scott in SoCal wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: So let's say the guy had developed cataracts instead of diabetes; would you also want to wait until he had "frequent episodes" before you took his license away?
The visual impairment from cataracts would be more than frequent in that it would be constant. Such a person would not pass the required visual acuity screening to renew their license in the first place. Truth is simple. Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
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So let's say the guy had developed cataracts instead of diabetes; would you also want to wait until he had "frequent episodes" before you took his license away? What if the diabetic kills someone with his very first "episode?" Why do we have to wait for something bad to happen before we yank someone's license?
You sould like Aunt Judy. That argument could be made about anything, including your Vette. Where do you draw the line? Seemlingly perfectly healthy 30 year olds have been known to have strokes or die from an unknown heart problem. Everyone is at risk, it's just a matter of the risk amount. I have known people for 15 years that I had no clue had diabetes.
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On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 7:43:46 -0500, Larry Bud wrote (in message <d4bc72c0-f879-4e99-b481-76cd0ec13447@e67g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>):
Everyone is at risk, it's just a matter of the risk amount.
Warning - Life can be hazardous to your life
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On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 02:26:31 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdoc17@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
Scott in SoCal wrote: The visual impairment from cataracts would be more than frequent in that it would be constant. Such a person would not pass the required visual acuity screening to renew their license in the first place.
But if they already have the license, they won't have to take a vision test for years. So this hypothetical driver would have plenty of opportunity to drive legally - at least until his "episodes" became "frequent."
Truth is simple.
That's right. The simple truth is diabetics who can fall into hypoglycemic comas at unpredictable times should NOT be allowed to drive. -- "Dave's not here, man!" - Tommy Chong
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On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 05:43:46 -0700 (PDT), Larry Bud <larrybud2002@yahoo.com> wrote: So let's say the guy had developed cataracts instead of diabetes; would you also want to wait until he had "frequent episodes" before you took his license away? What if the diabetic kills someone with his very first "episode?" Why do we have to wait for something bad to happen before we yank someone's license?
You sould like Aunt Judy.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Occasionally Aunt Judy says the right thing (for the wrong reason).
That argument could be made about anything, including your Vette.
A Corvette is not a serious medical condition which could result in the driver blacking out at unpredictable times.
Where do you draw the line?
I draw the line at serious medical conditions which could result in a driver blacking out at unpredictable times. :) -- "Dave's not here, man!" - Tommy Chong
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On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 02:26:31 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdoc17@emorycardiology.com> wrote: But if they already have the license, they won't have to take a vision test for years. So this hypothetical driver would have plenty of opportunity to drive legally - at least until his "episodes" became "frequent." That's right. The simple truth is diabetics who can fall into hypoglycemic comas at unpredictable times should NOT be allowed to drive.
You seem to be ignoring the fact that many diabetics, especially if they're the more common type 2, aren't likely to have any hypoglycemic comas.
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Scott in SoCal wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: But if they already have the license, they won't have to take a vision test for years. So this hypothetical driver would have plenty of opportunity to drive legally...
Not in good conscience however.
- at least until his "episodes" became "frequent."
Again, visual impairment from cataracts would be more than frequent because this would be constant. Truth is simple.
That's right. The simple truth is diabetics who can fall into hypoglycemic comas at unpredictable times should NOT be allowed to drive.
That would be your opinion rather than truth as evident by your use of the word "should." Again, truth is simple. It is possible for you to fall into a hypoglycemic coma at any moment if GOD so wills it. Therefore, by your own measure, your driver's license (if you have one) should be revoked. Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote: Yes. However, it would be reasonable to consider revoking a driver's license if a diabetic is having frequent hypoglycemic episodes because his/her diabetes is not optimally managed to prevent such incapacitating events.
And how many of these "episodes" does it take to cause a fatal accident?
The surest way of preventing hypoglycemia would be by curing the type-2 diabetes by losing the black fat (VAT). The smartest way of losing the VAT is by eating less, down to the right amount: http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart Again, a simple parable in hopes of promoting understanding: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< The brain absolutely requires glucose to function normally.
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_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: And how many of these "episodes" does it take to cause a fatal accident?
That would be knowable only by GOD. "See you are well again. Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." -- LORD Jesus Christ Amen. Thus, it remains smarter to eat less, down to the right amount: http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart A simple parable given in hopes of promoting understanding: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
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On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 13:16:04 -0500, "Robert Miles" <robertmiles@bellsouthNOSPAM.net> wrote:
You seem to be ignoring the fact that many diabetics, especially if they're the more common type 2, aren't likely to have any hypoglycemic comas.
Then we aren't talking about those people, are we? -- "Dave's not here, man!" - Tommy Chong
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On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:46:37 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdoc24@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
Scott in SoCal wrote: Not in good conscience however.
The same could be said for drivers who are likely to slip into comas, could it not? Why the double standard? - at least until his "episodes" became "frequent."
Again, visual impairment from cataracts would be more than frequent because this would be constant.
So where do you draw the line? Truth is simple. That's right. The simple truth is diabetics who can fall into hypoglycemic comas at unpredictable times should NOT be allowed to drive.
That would be your opinion rather than truth as evident by your use of the word "should."
My opinion holds just as much "truth" as yours does.
Again, truth is simple.
Yes, it is. People who are a danger to others on the roads due to their medical conditions should not be permitted to drive. That's the truth (not to mention the law). This guy's doctor should have filled out the Canadian equivalent of this form http://www.dmv.ca.gov/forms/ds/ds326.pdf and reported him to the DMV and gotten his license yanked. Notice that Diabetes is specifically listed on this form, indicating that, despite your OPINION, it is a cause for concern to the folks who actually give out driver's licenses.
It is possible for you to fall into a hypoglycemic coma at any moment if GOD so wills it.
Oh, and I suppose your fantasies about an invisible man in the sky are "truth," as well? -- "Dave's not here, man!" - Tommy Chong
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On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 18:20:16 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heartdoc22@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote: That would be knowable only by GOD.
Therefore YOU are not qualified to determine that it is safe for him to continue to drive. Therefore his license should have been immediately revoked for the sake of safety. -- "Dave's not here, man!" - Tommy Chong
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_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote: That would be knowable only by GOD.
Which god ?
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Scott in SoCal wrote:
Yes, it is. People who are a danger to others on the roads due to their medical conditions should not be permitted to drive. That's the truth (not to mention the law). This guy's doctor should have filled out the Canadian equivalent of this form http://www.dmv.ca.gov/forms/ds/ds326.pdf and reported him to the DMV and gotten his license yanked. Notice that Diabetes is specifically listed on this form, indicating that, despite your OPINION, it is a cause for concern to the folks who actually give out driver's licenses.
a Semi driver in Alberta MUST have a complete physical exam every year and get clearance from their Dr before they can renew their license............ even if their Dr allows them, DMV can refuse the license i drive a car........ i must have a Medical every year........ the DMV is reported to every time i have an unconscious hypo or a severe hypo NO MATTER if i'm driving or NOT....... the DMV has the final say on if i will get my license (my last unconscious hypo was due to an insulin change back in 1993) are you telling me that *I* should not be driving? i think you are 'over the top' in your opinion about 'potentially could have a hypo' ANYONE can have a heart attack at the wheel, and have been in 'good health' up until that point......... i know........ my uncle died of a heart attack at the wheel while doing 60MPH and 3 people in the car he hit died :( i guess under that logic YOU shouldn't be driving either?
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Reality_Check=A9 wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: Which god ?
There is only One. Your asking simply demonstrates you don't know HIM. May you and other dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of Man ... =2E.. by being hungrier: http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD Hunger is wonderful: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good. Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives. Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ... http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob =2E.. gone: http://YouTube.com/watch?v=3DQb6d_z5C35E Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed: http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed "Blessed are you who hunger NOW... =2E.. for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21) Amen. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21 A simple parable for the wise and discerning: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
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On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:49:53 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez _" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote:
And how many of these "episodes" does it take to cause a fatal accident?
about the same number as it would for you to kill someone while driving while you have the flu, a severe cold and taking cough syrup, etc. So because that is a very real possibility, you driving while impaired, your license should be revoked now. you are a menace to society.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Reality_Check wrote: There is only One.
Says who ?
Your asking simply demonstrates you don't know HIM.
How do you know it's a "HIM" ?
May you and other dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of Man ...
Fuck your god and @$#* what it stands for. Any questions?
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Mck wrote:
On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:49:53 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez _" <theprof@jonez.net> wrote: about the same number as it would for you to kill someone while driving while you have the flu,
And your proof of this absurd assertion is what, exactly?
a severe cold and taking cough syrup,
And your proof of this absurd assertion is what, exactly?
etc.
And your proof of this absurd assertion is what, exactly?
So because that is a very real possibility,
Just because you pull complete nonsense out of your ass doesn't make it a "real possibility", "very" or otherwise, jackass.
you driving while impaired, your license should be revoked now. you are a menace to society.
You're lying again, jackass.
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http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/ScienceByGOD
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/ScienceByGOD
Fuck your god, and @$#* what it stands for, you superstitious imbecile. Any questions?
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neighbor_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:
Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: Fuck your god, and @$#* what it stands for, you superstitious imbecile.
Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling you to unwittingly demonstrate what life would be without HIM. Laus Deo ! ! ! http://HeartMDPhD.com/LausDeo May you and other dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as the Son of Man ... .... by being hungrier: http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD Hunger is wonderful: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good. Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives. Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! ) forever ... http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob .... gone: http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed: http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed "Blessed are you who hunger NOW... .... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21) Amen. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21 A simple parable for the wise and discerning: http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic: http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords. http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
neighbor_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote: Many thanks,
Fuck your god.
much praise,
Fuck your christ.
and all the glory to GOD for
Fuck your holey ghost.
HIS compelling you to unwittingly demonstrate what life would be without HIM.
So you admit there is no god, eh nutter?
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QED http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/ScienceByGOD
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On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:40:02 -0600, Tiger_Lily <me@privacy.net> wrote:
ANYONE can have a heart attack at the wheel, and have been in 'good health' up until that point......... i know........ my uncle died of a heart attack at the wheel while doing 60MPH and 3 people in the car he hit died :( i guess under that logic YOU shouldn't be driving either?
If I had a medical condition that would make me LIKELY to have a heart attack, then yes, I should not be driving either. -- "Dave's not here, man!" - Tommy Chong
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SFB spewed:
On Apr 3, 9:25 am, "_ Prof. Jonez _" <thep...@jonez.net> wrote: Now that just shows how dumb you are if you think sight is not essential for driving!!!
Why not> You think that operational brakes are not essential to driving.... -- "Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS," advocates driving a car with half of its braking system inoperative: "If you drive slow and supplement the front brakes with transmission braking, you'll be fine - as long as the front brakes don't spring a leak too. Big thing is drive slow." --Speeders & Drunk Drivers Are MURDERERS, 4/4/08 Ref: http://tinyurl.com/5qzjgc Msg ID: bb6b10f4-e9ae-495e-8449-d06fb1f99ba5@q10g2000prf.googlegroups.com
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
QED http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/ScienceByGOD
Piss on your christ, nutter.
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