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Legality issues of computer surveillance PI type work?



TwoBearCatz
4/14/2008 9:07:13 AM


Hello,
I'm considering advertising to provide installed "surveillance"
services for people going through a divorce, etc. This is specific to
computer and Internet - namely installing keyloggers on the client's
system and setting up the results to go back to an email address for
them to collect at a later date. I don't intend to offer any other PI
type services beyond covert computer/Internet monitoring. Being in the
computer business, I've already got requests from friends to do this
sort of work as a favor. This is primarily why I want to consider
doing this is a side business and charging for it.
Of course, I want to carry out this business legally. The obvious
choice is to be a licensed "PI" in my state. However, this begs a few
questions that I can't seem to get a straight answer on:
Is this sort of work legal or illegal in any capacity?
If legal, do I in fact need to be a licensed PI to carry out this sort
of work?
If I do need to be a licensed PI, then why? What does a PI license
give me power to do regarding this type of work?
If I don't need a PI license, then what do I or should I need to carry
out this work? Do I need some carefully written contract for my
customers to sign before the work is carried out?
On a side note, one of the requirements for a PI license in my state
is two years of "verifiable security related work". I don't have this,
and obviously I don't intend to try to get it just to see if this
business idea even pans out.
Thanks for any helpful advice. I really appreciate it.
 
 
"foad"
4/14/2008 4:20:02 PM




"TwoBearCatz" <twobearcatz@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:df34b810-ac34-4e13-99f1-83b71aad638e@u3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

Hello,
I'm considering advertising to provide installed "surveillance"
services for people going through a divorce, etc. This is specific to
computer and Internet - namely installing keyloggers on the client's
system and setting up the results to go back to an email address for
them to collect at a later date. I don't intend to offer any other PI
type services beyond covert computer/Internet monitoring. Being in the
computer business, I've already got requests from friends to do this
sort of work as a favor. This is primarily why I want to consider
doing this is a side business and charging for it.
Of course, I want to carry out this business legally. The obvious
choice is to be a licensed "PI" in my state. However, this begs a few
questions that I can't seem to get a straight answer on:
Is this sort of work legal or illegal in any capacity?
If legal, do I in fact need to be a licensed PI to carry out this sort
of work?
If I do need to be a licensed PI, then why? What does a PI license
give me power to do regarding this type of work?
If I don't need a PI license, then what do I or should I need to carry
out this work? Do I need some carefully written contract for my
customers to sign before the work is carried out?
On a side note, one of the requirements for a PI license in my state
is two years of "verifiable security related work". I don't have this,
and obviously I don't intend to try to get it just to see if this
business idea even pans out.
Thanks for any helpful advice. I really appreciate it.
All if this depends on where you live.
 
 
TwoBearCatz
4/14/2008 9:30:44 AM


On Apr 14, 12:20=A0pm, "foad" <o...@ooo.org> wrote:


"TwoBearCatz" <twobearc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:df34b810-ac34-4e13-99f1-83b71aad638e@u3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...

All if this depends on where you live.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I live in Florida.
 
 
richard
4/14/2008 10:53:03 PM


On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:07:13 -0700 (PDT), TwoBearCatz
<twobearcatz@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello,
I'm considering advertising to provide installed "surveillance"
services for people going through a divorce, etc. This is specific to
computer and Internet - namely installing keyloggers on the client's
system and setting up the results to go back to an email address for
them to collect at a later date. I don't intend to offer any other PI
type services beyond covert computer/Internet monitoring. Being in the
computer business, I've already got requests from friends to do this
sort of work as a favor. This is primarily why I want to consider
doing this is a side business and charging for it.
Of course, I want to carry out this business legally. The obvious
choice is to be a licensed "PI" in my state. However, this begs a few
questions that I can't seem to get a straight answer on:
Is this sort of work legal or illegal in any capacity?
If legal, do I in fact need to be a licensed PI to carry out this sort
of work?
If I do need to be a licensed PI, then why? What does a PI license
give me power to do regarding this type of work?
If I don't need a PI license, then what do I or should I need to carry
out this work? Do I need some carefully written contract for my
customers to sign before the work is carried out?
On a side note, one of the requirements for a PI license in my state
is two years of "verifiable security related work". I don't have this,
and obviously I don't intend to try to get it just to see if this
business idea even pans out.
Thanks for any helpful advice. I really appreciate it.
That kind of business is NOT the definition of a "private
investigator".
But why would I hire you to install the program on my computer when I
can do it myself?
There are plenty of keylogging programs readily available.
Then again, you could do a booming business simply because people are
to ignorant on how to do it themselves.
 
 
TwoBearCatz
4/14/2008 10:36:40 PM


On Apr 14, 11:53=A0pm, richard <i.do....@ca.re> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:07:13 -0700 (PDT), TwoBearCatz
<twobearc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
That kind of business is NOT the definition of a "private
investigator".
Then what is? How does that statement provide any helpful information
about the legal issues behind computer surveillance?
But why would I hire you to install the program on my computer when I
can do it myself?
I have no idea, and I really don't care! You aren't one of my
customers.
There are plenty of keylogging programs readily available.
So?
Then again, you could do a booming business simply because people are
to ignorant on how to do it themselves.- Hide quoted text -
No, I think you have it wrong. The "people" are not ignorant - it's
YOU. Asking for advice, not your name calling BS. APPARENTLY you DON'T
know much of anything about the questions posed in the OP. So, if you
are so IGNORANT on the topic then why not be QUIET?! Apparently, you
just like to hear yourself talk and fill this forum up to the BRIM
with nonsense. Next!
- Show quoted text -
 
 
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