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CA move-away custody conundrum



overlooked
4/15/2008 9:27:41 AM


Bear with me, I'll try to be brief...here's a nutshell history of my
dilemma:
I filed for divorce in 2006 after ex had an affair and chose to stay
with her.
I was a stay-at-home mom for 6 years, never having been away from my
children over 24 hours until they were six. Ex worked 16+ hours/day.
At separation, after a domestic violence incident which resulted in a
restraining order on ex, I lived in marital home with children, ex
was
under order to continue mortgage payments, child/spousal support.
Ex never paid any spousal, discontinued child support and mortgage
after 8 months.
I began working full time, and paying full cost of child care so I
could work (which almost zeroed each other out!).
House went into foreclosure - ex wouldn't allow me access to any
mortgage information as it was all in his name.
When a sign was posted on house that it was going to auction, there
was a 30 period in which to get it sold.
A lien was currently on house for $110,000 for child support
arrearages from ex's older son of a prior relationship.
A new lien was calculated at $54,000 for arrearages owed to me.
I was able to miraculously get the house sold, with proceeds of about
$180,000. Rather than the proceeds being split 50/50 according to
California law, the liens were paid off, and the remainder was put in
escrow.
After trying to negotiate a way to stay in the marital home, whether
by buying out ex's half, keeping his half as an investment, etc, to
no
avail, I was forced to sell.
Holding down the fort 100% on my own (no financial help from ex) left
me almost penniless by the time I had sold the house, packed and
stored everything we owned, paid attorneys, etc., and I had nowhere
to
go.
I filed an OSC with Los Angeles court to relocate with the children.
I am from Atlanta, with friends and family there, Mother and
Stepfather, job opportunities, lower cost of living.
At the time, ex was unemployed, living in his brother-in-law's house.
Ex responds to OSC saying he opposes the move and wants a custody
evaluation.
In the meantime, I have no where to go other than to Atlanta, to move
in with parents.
Judge decides that during custody evaluation (which is now nearing
one
year, and $15,000 which I have paid for), children are to remain in
California a la "status quo".
My first problem:
There was NO status quo, other than a geographical one. The children
had to move out of the only home they had ever known and move to
another area of Los Angeles.
They had to change from being in my primary care (their whole lives)
to that of their father's.
They moved into a home that was undergoing renovations in order to be
sold. A majority of their time spent there was with no furniture
other
than what was in their bedroom, a torn-out kitchen, and a layer of
drywall dust inside the whole house.
Since I had to relocate to Atlanta, I have found a job and bought a
home which the children love. I have maintained daily contact with
them via telephone, and have managed to have monthly visits, the
majority of which have been the children coming to Atlanta (all at my
expense and with ex being extremely difficult).
The conundrum here is that in all of the research I have done, I have
never come across any cases in which the Custodial Parent requests
permission to relocate the children, but actually has to personally
relocate before the decision can be made. I'm wondering how this is
going to bear on the judge's decision. My attorney has frequently
said
"it sure is a shame you couldn't stay here with the children during
the custody evaluation". It certainly is.
Our hearing is in June, I have flown the custody evaluator out to
Atlanta for a home visit while the children were visiting me, but the
visit has not been conducted on the ex's home yet.
My main concern is that the children have been "successfully" living
with their father for 9 months now.
Let me rephrase: he finally rented a home for them, although it is
on
a busy street. He began working again, is up and gone before they
wake
up, and not home until sometimes after dinner. During that time they
are under the care of a babysitter that "he found online" according
to
my son. They spend almost all of their free time playing video games
-violent ones, mostly (they're under 8 years old). He does not read to
them. They have not yet had their 6 year doctor check ups (nor 7).
They are overdue for a dental appointment, the last one they had was
when I was in town visiting them 8 months ago (I took them). He does
not have booster seats for them, and lets them both ride in the front
seat of his pickup truck. I could go on and on.
But he can also show that they have a comfortable home, and are
healthy and happy. Which is true.
I keep reading articles that (in LA, at least) any effort on a
father's part to care for his children is grounds for awarding
custody. I'm terrified, if this is the case. I believe, without a
doubt, that it is in my children's best interest to live with me. I
can provide them with better education, I have proven to tend to
their
basic needs and he has not, I enrich their lives rather than leaving
them with video games, etc. I also believe that they should have as
much time with their father as possible, and would promote that to
the
fullest extent. But this "status-quo" thing scares me because we've
been screwed by it once already, and the fact that I had to leave
California and the children while the evaluation is being done also
scares me.
Anyone who has read this far - I am extremely grateful, and would
love
any advice/comments/feedback.
 
 
"David L. Martel"
4/15/2008 1:04:27 PM


Spicy,
That's a sad tale. I'm glad you have a lawyer to advise you. Sounds as if
you made out ok on the house sale though I don't understand the "escrow"
bit.
I'm unsure how a judge will react to your choosing to move, buy a house
et c. before your order is approved but it's done. You should expect to
resolve issues about transporting the children between the homes. I'd also
expect that child support will be increased since inflation is at work in
the economy. Between now and the hearing I'd advise keeping current on your
child support and keep open communication with your lawyer.
Good luck,
Dave M.
 
 
overlooked
4/15/2008 10:57:49 AM


Thanks for your advice.
One of my main points is that due to my ex's apparent tactics - trying
to keep me broke and homeless - I didn't really have much of a choice
but to move to Atlanta. By the time I got the house sold, I definitely
didn't have enough money for rent/deposit on a place in Los Angeles,
nor could I financially care for myself and children (having to assume
that ex wouldn't pay support) anywhere near the standard of living
that we were used to (which was not extravagent by any means, but at
least safe). Living in an unsafe 'dump' wouldn't have been in the best
interest of the children.
As for the house - roughly $20,000 of my share of the proceeds went to
his former child support obligations, $54,000 paid off my own Child/
Spousal Support arrearages (wow - wasn't that a deal! I paid his
support to myself), $15,000 has gone to the Custody Evaluator that he
insisted on...
This was another example of his tactics - he wouldn't permit the sale
of the house unless I agreed to put the proceeds in escrow until
further decision by the court of how it would be divided. That way all
of his liens were automatically paid, since technically neither of us
had a claim on any of it yet.
Fortunately, for me, he hasn't requested child support during this
evaluation. I earn less than 1/4 of what he earns, and he is still in
arrears to me. I also have to pay for all the travel expenses to see
the kids.
Did I mention he's in contempt of over 15 items in our court ordered
stipulation? I don't even know where to begin with that. I know that
contempt takes precedence over everything else because it's "quasi-
criminal" and I don't want to tie up my custody case right now.
 
 
"David L. Martel"
4/15/2008 6:38:24 PM


Spicy,
Has your attorney advised you to not pay child support? Is he aware that
you are not paying child support? Your Ex's attorney will raise this in
court where it may be very relevant. Don't let your attorney be
"blind-sided".
Good luck,
Dave M.
 
 
overlooked
4/16/2008 7:17:10 AM


On Apr 15, 6:38=A0pm, "David L. Martel" <marte...@earthlink.net> wrote:
Spicy,
=A0 =A0 Has your attorney advised you to not pay child support? Is he awar=
e that
you are not paying child support? Your Ex's attorney will raise this in
court where it may be very relevant. Don't let your attorney be
"blind-sided".
Good luck,
Dave M.
Actually, our current stipulation still has the order for him to pay
child support, and I agreed (in writing and with judge's approval) to
waive it while the children are "temporarily" in his custody (awaiting
custody hearing).
 
 
richard
4/18/2008 3:22:39 PM


On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:27:41 -0700 (PDT), overlooked
<SpicyWeiner@gmail.com> wrote:
Bear with me, I'll try to be brief...here's a nutshell history of my
dilemma:
I filed for divorce in 2006 after ex had an affair and chose to stay
with her.
I was a stay-at-home mom for 6 years, never having been away from my
children over 24 hours until they were six. Ex worked 16+ hours/day.
At separation, after a domestic violence incident which resulted in a
restraining order on ex, I lived in marital home with children, ex
was
under order to continue mortgage payments, child/spousal support.
Ex never paid any spousal, discontinued child support and mortgage
after 8 months.
I began working full time, and paying full cost of child care so I
could work (which almost zeroed each other out!).
House went into foreclosure - ex wouldn't allow me access to any
mortgage information as it was all in his name.
When a sign was posted on house that it was going to auction, there
was a 30 period in which to get it sold.
A lien was currently on house for $110,000 for child support
arrearages from ex's older son of a prior relationship.
A new lien was calculated at $54,000 for arrearages owed to me.
I was able to miraculously get the house sold, with proceeds of about
$180,000. Rather than the proceeds being split 50/50 according to
California law, the liens were paid off, and the remainder was put in
escrow.
After trying to negotiate a way to stay in the marital home, whether
by buying out ex's half, keeping his half as an investment, etc, to
no
avail, I was forced to sell.
Holding down the fort 100% on my own (no financial help from ex) left
me almost penniless by the time I had sold the house, packed and
stored everything we owned, paid attorneys, etc., and I had nowhere
to
go.
I filed an OSC with Los Angeles court to relocate with the children.
I am from Atlanta, with friends and family there, Mother and
Stepfather, job opportunities, lower cost of living.
At the time, ex was unemployed, living in his brother-in-law's house.
Ex responds to OSC saying he opposes the move and wants a custody
evaluation.
In the meantime, I have no where to go other than to Atlanta, to move
in with parents.
Judge decides that during custody evaluation (which is now nearing
one
year, and $15,000 which I have paid for), children are to remain in
California a la "status quo".
My first problem:
There was NO status quo, other than a geographical one. The children
had to move out of the only home they had ever known and move to
another area of Los Angeles.
They had to change from being in my primary care (their whole lives)
to that of their father's.
They moved into a home that was undergoing renovations in order to be
sold. A majority of their time spent there was with no furniture
other
than what was in their bedroom, a torn-out kitchen, and a layer of
drywall dust inside the whole house.
Since I had to relocate to Atlanta, I have found a job and bought a
home which the children love. I have maintained daily contact with
them via telephone, and have managed to have monthly visits, the
majority of which have been the children coming to Atlanta (all at my
expense and with ex being extremely difficult).
The conundrum here is that in all of the research I have done, I have
never come across any cases in which the Custodial Parent requests
permission to relocate the children, but actually has to personally
relocate before the decision can be made. I'm wondering how this is
going to bear on the judge's decision. My attorney has frequently
said
"it sure is a shame you couldn't stay here with the children during
the custody evaluation". It certainly is.
Our hearing is in June, I have flown the custody evaluator out to
Atlanta for a home visit while the children were visiting me, but the
visit has not been conducted on the ex's home yet.
My main concern is that the children have been "successfully" living
with their father for 9 months now.
Let me rephrase: he finally rented a home for them, although it is
on
a busy street. He began working again, is up and gone before they
wake
up, and not home until sometimes after dinner. During that time they
are under the care of a babysitter that "he found online" according
to
my son. They spend almost all of their free time playing video games
-violent ones, mostly (they're under 8 years old). He does not read to
them. They have not yet had their 6 year doctor check ups (nor 7).
They are overdue for a dental appointment, the last one they had was
when I was in town visiting them 8 months ago (I took them). He does
not have booster seats for them, and lets them both ride in the front
seat of his pickup truck. I could go on and on.
But he can also show that they have a comfortable home, and are
healthy and happy. Which is true.
I keep reading articles that (in LA, at least) any effort on a
father's part to care for his children is grounds for awarding
custody. I'm terrified, if this is the case. I believe, without a
doubt, that it is in my children's best interest to live with me. I
can provide them with better education, I have proven to tend to
their
basic needs and he has not, I enrich their lives rather than leaving
them with video games, etc. I also believe that they should have as
much time with their father as possible, and would promote that to
the
fullest extent. But this "status-quo" thing scares me because we've
been screwed by it once already, and the fact that I had to leave
California and the children while the evaluation is being done also
scares me.
Anyone who has read this far - I am extremely grateful, and would
love
any advice/comments/feedback.
Tell the judge that regardless of the decision, you intend on moving
to Atlanta. What's the judge gonna do? Order you to stay in Cal?
Daddy couldn't make payments, so like he's gonna get custody? I don't
think so. Not without a job and a home he ain't. Hubby screwed you,
payback time. Screw him and move.
 
 
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