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U.S. arrests American suspected of giving nuclear secrets to Israel
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=88350
A NEW POLLARD CASE?
U.S. arrests American suspected of giving nuclear secrets to Israel
22/04/2008
U.S. authorities on Tuesday arrested an American engineer suspected of
giving military secrets involving nuclear weapons, fighter jets and
air defense missiles to Israel during the 1980s, the Justice
Department
said.
Ben-Ami Kadish, an 84-year-old Connecticut-born U.S. citizen who
worked at an Army engineering center in New Jersey, was suspected of
reporting to the same Israeli government handler who dealt with
Jonathan Jay Pollard, currently serving a life term on a charge of
spying for Israel.
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Kadish worked as a mechanical engineer at the U.S. Army's Armament
Research, Development and Engineering Center in Dover, New Jersey.
The complaint says Kadish took home classified documents several times
between 1979 and 1985, and the Israeli government worker photographed
them in Kadish's basement. Contact between the two continued until
March of this year, according to the court papers.
The documents included information about nuclear weapons, a modified
version of an F-15 fighter jet and the U.S. Patriot missile air
defense system.
Kadish was arrested in New Jersey and was scheduled to be arraigned on
Tuesday afternoon at U.S. District Court in Manhattan, authorities
said.
There was no immediate comment from the Israeli government but a
senior defense official said "I find it hard to believe that, after
the Pollard affair, we would recruit an American spy."
A U.S. Justice Department official said Kadish did not appear to
receive any money in exchange for his suspected spying.
According to the complaint, the Israeli government worker provided
Kadish on numerous occasions with lists of U.S. national defense
classified documents for Kadish to obtain.
Prosecutors also allege Kadish conspired to hinder a communication
with a law enforcement officer and make a materially false statement
to a law enforcement officer.
Those charges stem from a March 20 conversation in which Kadish was
told by the Israeli contact to lie to U.S. law enforcement agents, the
complaint said.
A day later, Kadish lied to FBI agents about his communications with
the
Israeli worker, the complaint said.
Kadish was described in the complaint as a Connecticut-born man
employed from October 1963 to January 1990 as a mechanical engineer at
the Army's Picatinny Arsenal in Dover, where the research center is
based.
The complaint said the Israeli worker, who was not identified in court
papers, was born in Israel and is an Israeli citizen.
It said that in the late 1970s, the Israeli worker was employed at the
Israel Aircraft Industries in Israel, which since at least the late
1970s has been a defense manufacturing contractor for the Israeli
government.
From July 1980 through November 1985, he worked for the government of
Israel as the consul for science affairs at the Israeli Consulate
General in Manhattan, the complaint said.
The complaint noted that Pollard was charged in November 1985 with
espionage-related offense after he provided classified information to
the same Israeli worker, among other people.
The Israeli worker left the United States in November 1985 and has
not
returned, the complaint said.
Pollard, a former civilian intelligence analyst for the U.S. Navy,
plead guilty in 1986 to transferring military secrets to Israel while
working at the Pentagon. He is serving a life sentence in a U.S.
federal prison.
http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/977076.html
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Subject: Breaking News Alert: American arrested for spying for Israel
(want to bet that the Israel first 'American' media doesn't cover this
either!)
From: JTA Newsdesk
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:41 AM
Subject: Breaking News Alert: American arrested for spying for Israel
U.S. authorities arrested an American for spying for Israel
April 22, 2008
U.S. authorities arrested an American for spying for Israel.
The Justice Department disclosed Tuesday that Ben-Ami Kadish, a
mechanical engineer at a U.S. Army facility in Dover, N.J., was
arrested on charges of relaying secrets to Israel from 1979 to 1985,
including nuclear secrets. Kadish speaks Hebrew and has an Israeli
brother.
Kadish allegedly "borrowed" classified documents from the facility's
library and took them home to be copied by an Israeli diplomat
employed at Israels consulate in New York, according to a sealed
complaint filed Monday in a federal district court in New York.
One of the documents "contained information concerning nuclear
weaponry and was classified as 'Restricted Data,' a specific
designation by the U.S. Department of Energy, because the document
contained atomic-related information," said a statement Tuesday from
the Justice Department.
Another classified document "contained information concerning a major
weapons system -- a modified version of an F-15 fighter jet that the
United States had sold to another country. This document was
classified by the Department of Defense as 'Secret' and was further
restricted as 'Noforn,' or 'Not Releasable to Foreign Nationals.'"
Kadish, who allegedly was not paid for relaying the documents, is due
to appear in court Tuesday.
He allegedly spoke with his Israeli co-conspirator by phone on March
20, before he was due to meet with U.S. officials. According to the
Justice Department, the Israeli instructed Kadish to lie to law
enforcement officials. The following day, March 21, Kadish denied
having had the phone call.
The alleged spying took place before U.S. Navy analyst Jonathan
Pollard was sentenced to life for spying for Israel. Israeli diplomats
have said that Pollard's case led the United States to increase its
information sharing with Israel and at the same time led Israel to
clamp down on any Israeli espionage in the United States.
For more news coverage, visit jta.org.
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:37:27 -0700 (PDT), NOMOREWARFORISRAEL
<NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL@yahoo.com> wrote:
U.S. arrests American suspected of giving nuclear secrets to Israel
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=88350
A NEW POLLARD CASE?
All too many of these espionage cases lately. I think the government
should exercise its legal right to execute those convicted of treason.
It might give prospective spies some badly needed pause.
A_C
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In article
<4102a510-21a2-4333-9955-9645bf263a92@a22g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
NOMOREWARFORISRAEL <NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL@yahoo.com> wrote:
From July 1980 through November 1985, he worked for the government of
Israel as the consul for science affairs at the Israeli Consulate
General in Manhattan
That would be Yosef (Joseph) Yagur, who was handling Pollard with the
help of Avriam Sela at the direction of Rafi Eitan, who participated in
many exploits like the kidnapping/arrest of Adolf Eichmann. The US
gov't always thought there was someone else, because Pollard may had
broad access, he was still compartmentalized, and he was getting stuff
specifically demanded by his handlers, mainly communication intercepts
and how the US acquired communications, besides satellite information..
I doubt this suspect gave the Israelis blueprints for nuclear weapons as
much as more stable weapon designs, or warhead designs. Nuclear Weapons
can't be made off the shelf or with specific blueprints as much as a
nation has to have a huge infrastructure to make and test each part of
the equipment through some grueling stage. Making the plutonium take
more than a recipe.
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:37:27 -0700 (PDT), NOMOREWARFORISRAEL
<NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL@yahoo.com> wrote:
All too many of these espionage cases lately. I think the government
should exercise its legal right to execute those convicted of treason.
It might give prospective spies some badly needed pause.
No, the point is, why are giving billions a year to a coutnry that openly
supports espionage on us and attacks on our warships?
A_C
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"GeekBoy" <geek@geek_five.net> wrote in
news:480e9a1c$0$3358$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
No, the point is, why are giving billions a year to a coutnry that
openly supports espionage on us and attacks on our warships?
Attacks? Please name two.
A_C
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"GeekBoy" <geek@geek_five.net> wrote in
news:480e9a1c$0$3358$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
Attacks? Please name two.
I wrote "supports attacks," not did attack. Notice the missing comma which
represents I am on the same subject.
A_C
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In article <480f422e$0$31742$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"GeekBoy" <geek@geek_five.net> wrote:
I wrote "supports attacks," not did attack. Notice the missing comma which
represents I am on the same subject.
Name two attacks on our warships that they supported, then.
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In article <480f422e$0$31742$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"GeekBoy" <geek@geek_five.net> wrote:
Name two attacks on our warships that they supported, then.
What's wrong? Do not know the meaning of "supports attacks?"
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In article <480f5dd7$0$3386$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"GeekBoy" <geek@geek_five.net> wrote:
What's wrong? Do not know the meaning of "supports attacks?"
I know what you mean, even if that is a fragment and not a full question.
I also know the meaning of evidence and citations, and that is what I am
asking you to provide.
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In article <480e9a1c$0$3358$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"GeekBoy" <geek@geek_five.net> wrote:
No, the point is, why are giving billions a year to a coutnry that openly
supports espionage on us and attacks on our warships?
Hate to break the news, but the US spies on all its allies, including
the Israelis and its other close allies with major cooperation. The US
has a huge money eating intelligence apparatus, with listening posts,
recon satellites thorough out the world. The US NSA has no qualms in
reading other allies encrypted communications and diplomatic traffic,
and has been doing it for years.
Espionage is as glamourous and laborious as emptying the septic tank,
it is a rather cynical apolitical and quite dirty profession.
Why Pollard got LWOP, because he basically compromise the entire US
intelligence gathering means, by giving the Israelis main top secret
manual on how the US acquired, interpreted and catalogued all
communication signals. The amount of classified information that Pollard
gave to the Israelis would fit into a small room, it was thousands and
thousands of documents.
There is a very strongly likelihood that the Israelis gave the Russian
much of the information in exchange for Soviet Jews to emigrate to
Israel like Natan Sharansky.
There have been hints for years that Pollard wasn't the only one
giving the Israelis information during the mid 1980s. Mainly because
the Israelis were asking for very specific things, and how they handled
the Pollard Spy operation, with a using a high speed copier at a
undisclosed location in Washington DC.
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In article <480f5dd7$0$3386$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"GeekBoy" <geek@geek_five.net> wrote:
I know what you mean, even if that is a fragment and not a full question.
I also know the meaning of evidence and citations, and that is what I am
asking you to provide.
I was stating a generality.
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"GeekBoy" <geek@geek_five.net> wrote in
news:480f422e$0$31742$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
I wrote "supports attacks," not did attack. Notice the missing comma
which represents I am on the same subject.
There is no missing comma. A comma would indicate the conjunction of two
independent clauses. You have two conjointed noun phrases.
My question has to do with the plural, both "attacks" and "warships."
Please name two attacks that the Israelis supported. Or two warships
attacked with Israeli support.
I'm familiar with the USS Liberty, which the Israelis actually did
attack.
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In article <480fb8da$0$30197$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"GeekBoy" <geek@geek_five.net> wrote:
I was stating a generality.
Can you provide a citation for the generality you made? Any evidence
whatsoever to support this generality?
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In article <480fb8da$0$30197$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"GeekBoy" <geek@geek_five.net> wrote:
Can you provide a citation for the generality you made? Any evidence
whatsoever to support this generality?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7267134620652018859
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In article <480fd191$0$12906$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"GeekBoy" <geek@geek_five.net> wrote:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7267134620652018859
A video from Google is hardly an authoritative source. That being said,
I'll accept the USS Liberty incident.
Yet you used the plural "attacks" and "warships" yet only provided
evidence of one such incident. So I'll wait for another.
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In article <480fd191$0$12906$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"GeekBoy" <geek@geek_five.net> wrote:
A video from Google is hardly an authoritative source. That being said,
I'll accept the USS Liberty incident.
Yet you used the plural "attacks" and "warships" yet only provided
evidence of one such incident. So I'll wait for another.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWpWc_suPWo
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"GeekBoy" <geek@geek_five.net> wrote in
news:480fb8da$0$30197$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
I was stating a generality.
In other words, you told a fib to make the Israelis look worse.
Got it.
If you think money spent on Israel is better spent elsewhere in the
world, fine. Make your case for Egypt, Saudi Arabia, or Sudan. If you
think foreign aid is a waste and the money should be spent at home or not
at all, fine. You can make that case, too. If you want to make the
point that Israel isn't a perfect ally, fine again.
But don't try to make out that Israel is an enemy of the US.
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"GeekBoy" <geek@geek_five.net> wrote in
news:480fd191$0$12906$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7267134620652018859
In other words, no.
This video is the conspiracy explanation for the attack on the USS
Liberty. Let's ignore the fact that both countries investigated and
declared the attack a mistake. After all, everyone involved could be
lying. Let's ignore the fact that for a motive, we have to believe that
the Israelis were trying to hide from the US the fact that they intended
to take the Golan Heights as a land grab. After all, maybe the
topographic maps of the areas are all faked.
Even so. That's one.
Do you understand what a generality is? If so, do you understand what it
takes to support a generality.
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In article <480feaae$0$12936$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"GeekBoy" <geek@geek_five.net> wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWpWc_suPWo
Sorry, this video is about Israel spying on the US, not attacking a
warship.
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"Deadrat" <a@b.com> wrote in message news:dFOPj.2795$I55.1087@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
: "GeekBoy" <geek@geek_five.net> wrote in
: news:480f422e$0$31742$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
:: >
: >> "GeekBoy" <geek@geek_five.net> wrote in
: >> news:480e9a1c$0$3358$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
: >>
: >>>
: >>>> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:37:27 -0700 (PDT), NOMOREWARFORISRAEL
: >>>> <NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL@yahoo.com> wrote:
: >>>>
: >>>>>U.S. arrests American suspected of giving nuclear secrets to Israel
: >>>>>
: >>>>>http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=88350
: >>>>>
: >>>>>A NEW POLLARD CASE?
: >>>>
: >>>> All too many of these espionage cases lately. I think the
: >>>> government should exercise its legal right to execute those
: >>>> convicted of treason.
: >>>>
: >>>> It might give prospective spies some badly needed pause.
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> No, the point is, why are giving billions a year to a coutnry that
: >>> openly supports espionage on us and attacks on our warships?
: >>
: >> Attacks? Please name two.
: >
: >
: > I wrote "supports attacks," not did attack. Notice the missing comma
: > which represents I am on the same subject.
:: There is no missing comma. A comma would indicate the conjunction of two
: independent clauses. You have two conjointed noun phrases.
:: My question has to do with the plural, both "attacks" and "warships."
: Please name two attacks that the Israelis supported. Or two warships
: attacked with Israeli support.
:: I'm familiar with the USS Liberty, which the Israelis actually did
: attack.
Hmmm,
how about the phoney staged terrorist attack they levied at
an American Embassy wherein they attacked the embassy dressed
in Arab garb so it would look like Arabs did it?
Does that incident count?
Even if it does, those are both historical events and not necessarily any
proof of Israels current intent..
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" Perry Mason" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in
news:QvZPj.48296$r76.40166@bignews8.bellsouth.net:
: "GeekBoy" <geek@geek_five.net> wrote in
: news:480f422e$0$31742$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
:: >
: >> "GeekBoy" <geek@geek_five.net> wrote in
: >> news:480e9a1c$0$3358$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
: >>
: >>>
: >>>> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:37:27 -0700 (PDT), NOMOREWARFORISRAEL
: >>>> <NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL@yahoo.com> wrote:
: >>>>
: >>>>>U.S. arrests American suspected of giving nuclear secrets to
: >>>>>Israel
: >>>>>
: >>>>>http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=88350
: >>>>>
: >>>>>A NEW POLLARD CASE?
: >>>>
: >>>> All too many of these espionage cases lately. I think the
: >>>> government should exercise its legal right to execute those
: >>>> convicted of treason.
: >>>>
: >>>> It might give prospective spies some badly needed pause.
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> No, the point is, why are giving billions a year to a coutnry
: >>> that openly supports espionage on us and attacks on our warships?
: >>
: >> Attacks? Please name two.
: >
: >
: > I wrote "supports attacks," not did attack. Notice the missing
: > comma which represents I am on the same subject.
:: There is no missing comma. A comma would indicate the conjunction of
: two independent clauses. You have two conjointed noun phrases.
:: My question has to do with the plural, both "attacks" and "warships."
: Please name two attacks that the Israelis supported. Or two warships
: attacked with Israeli support.
:: I'm familiar with the USS Liberty, which the Israelis actually did
: attack.
Hmmm,
how about the phoney staged terrorist attack they levied at
an American Embassy wherein they attacked the embassy dressed
in Arab garb so it would look like Arabs did it?
Does that incident count?
Hmmm, I guess. That is, if imaginary events counted, and the emabassy
was on a warship.
<snip>
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"Deadrat" <a@b.com> wrote in message news:MI0Qj.6317$GO4.141@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net...
: " Perry Mason" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in
: news:QvZPj.48296$r76.40166@bignews8.bellsouth.net:
:: >
: >: "GeekBoy" <geek@geek_five.net> wrote in
: >: news:480f422e$0$31742$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
: >:
: >: >
: >: >> "GeekBoy" <geek@geek_five.net> wrote in
: >: >> news:480e9a1c$0$3358$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
: >: >>
: >: >>>
: >: >>>> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:37:27 -0700 (PDT), NOMOREWARFORISRAEL
: >: >>>> <NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL@yahoo.com> wrote:
: >: >>>>
: >: >>>>>U.S. arrests American suspected of giving nuclear secrets to
: >: >>>>>Israel
: >: >>>>>
: >: >>>>>http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=88350
: >: >>>>>
: >: >>>>>A NEW POLLARD CASE?
: >: >>>>
: >: >>>> All too many of these espionage cases lately. I think the
: >: >>>> government should exercise its legal right to execute those
: >: >>>> convicted of treason.
: >: >>>>
: >: >>>> It might give prospective spies some badly needed pause.
: >: >>>
: >: >>>
: >: >>> No, the point is, why are giving billions a year to a coutnry
: >: >>> that openly supports espionage on us and attacks on our warships?
: >: >>
: >: >> Attacks? Please name two.
: >: >
: >: >
: >: > I wrote "supports attacks," not did attack. Notice the missing
: >: > comma which represents I am on the same subject.
: >:
: >: There is no missing comma. A comma would indicate the conjunction of
: >: two independent clauses. You have two conjointed noun phrases.
: >:
: >: My question has to do with the plural, both "attacks" and "warships."
: >: Please name two attacks that the Israelis supported. Or two warships
: >: attacked with Israeli support.
: >:
: >: I'm familiar with the USS Liberty, which the Israelis actually did
: >: attack.
: >
: >
: > Hmmm,
: > how about the phoney staged terrorist attack they levied at
: > an American Embassy wherein they attacked the embassy dressed
: > in Arab garb so it would look like Arabs did it?
: >
: > Does that incident count?
:: Hmmm, I guess. That is, if imaginary events counted, and the emabassy
: was on a warship.
:: <snip>
I guess I did word that a bit off. I didn't mean that the staged terrorist
attack was phoney, but rather the very *real* attack on the US embassy
was staged to look like someone else did it.
http://www.mideastweb.org/lavon.htm
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" Perry Mason" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in
news:QO5Qj.62854$Er2.10241@bignews6.bellsouth.net:
: " Perry Mason" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in
: news:QvZPj.48296$r76.40166@bignews8.bellsouth.net:
:: >
: >: "GeekBoy" <geek@geek_five.net> wrote in
: >: news:480f422e$0$31742$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
: >:
: >: >
: >: >> "GeekBoy" <geek@geek_five.net> wrote in
: >: >> news:480e9a1c$0$3358$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
: >: >>
: >: >>>
: >: >>>> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:37:27 -0700 (PDT), NOMOREWARFORISRAEL
: >: >>>> <NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL@yahoo.com> wrote:
: >: >>>>
: >: >>>>>U.S. arrests American suspected of giving nuclear secrets to
: >: >>>>>Israel
: >: >>>>>
: >: >>>>>http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=88350
: >: >>>>>
: >: >>>>>A NEW POLLARD CASE?
: >: >>>>
: >: >>>> All too many of these espionage cases lately. I think the
: >: >>>> government should exercise its legal right to execute those
: >: >>>> convicted of treason.
: >: >>>>
: >: >>>> It might give prospective spies some badly needed pause.
: >: >>>
: >: >>>
: >: >>> No, the point is, why are giving billions a year to a coutnry
: >: >>> that openly supports espionage on us and attacks on our
: >: >>> warships?
: >: >>
: >: >> Attacks? Please name two.
: >: >
: >: >
: >: > I wrote "supports attacks," not did attack. Notice the missing
: >: > comma which represents I am on the same subject.
: >:
: >: There is no missing comma. A comma would indicate the conjunction
: >: of two independent clauses. You have two conjointed noun phrases.
: >:
: >: My question has to do with the plural, both "attacks" and
: >: "warships." Please name two attacks that the Israelis supported.
: >: Or two warships attacked with Israeli support.
: >:
: >: I'm familiar with the USS Liberty, which the Israelis actually did
: >: attack.
: >
: >
: > Hmmm,
: > how about the phoney staged terrorist attack they levied at
: > an American Embassy wherein they attacked the embassy dressed
: > in Arab garb so it would look like Arabs did it?
: >
: > Does that incident count?
:: Hmmm, I guess. That is, if imaginary events counted, and the
: emabassy was on a warship.
:: <snip>
I guess I did word that a bit off. I didn't mean that the staged
terrorist attack was phoney, but rather the very *real* attack on the
US embassy was staged to look like someone else did it.
http://www.mideastweb.org/lavon.htm
The agents set off minor explosions in two USIA libraries. No deaths, no
injuries, no major damage, no embassies, no warships.
A "bit off"?
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"Deadrat" <a@b.com> wrote in message news:uY6Qj.317$506.122@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
: " Perry Mason" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in
: news:QO5Qj.62854$Er2.10241@bignews6.bellsouth.net:
:: >
: >: " Perry Mason" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in
: >: news:QvZPj.48296$r76.40166@bignews8.bellsouth.net:
: >:
: >: >
: >: >: "GeekBoy" <geek@geek_five.net> wrote in
: >: >: news:480f422e$0$31742$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
: >: >:
: >: >: >
: >: >: >> "GeekBoy" <geek@geek_five.net> wrote in
: >: >: >> news:480e9a1c$0$3358$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
: >: >: >>
: >: >: >>>
: >: >: >>>> On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:37:27 -0700 (PDT), NOMOREWARFORISRAEL
: >: >: >>>> <NOMOREWAR_FORISRAEL@yahoo.com> wrote:
: >: >: >>>>
: >: >: >>>>>U.S. arrests American suspected of giving nuclear secrets to
: >: >: >>>>>Israel
: >: >: >>>>>
: >: >: >>>>>http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=88350
: >: >: >>>>>
: >: >: >>>>>A NEW POLLARD CASE?
: >: >: >>>>
: >: >: >>>> All too many of these espionage cases lately. I think the
: >: >: >>>> government should exercise its legal right to execute those
: >: >: >>>> convicted of treason.
: >: >: >>>>
: >: >: >>>> It might give prospective spies some badly needed pause.
: >: >: >>>
: >: >: >>>
: >: >: >>> No, the point is, why are giving billions a year to a coutnry
: >: >: >>> that openly supports espionage on us and attacks on our
: >: >: >>> warships?
: >: >: >>
: >: >: >> Attacks? Please name two.
: >: >: >
: >: >: >
: >: >: > I wrote "supports attacks," not did attack. Notice the missing
: >: >: > comma which represents I am on the same subject.
: >: >:
: >: >: There is no missing comma. A comma would indicate the conjunction
: >: >: of two independent clauses. You have two conjointed noun phrases.
: >: >:
: >: >: My question has to do with the plural, both "attacks" and
: >: >: "warships." Please name two attacks that the Israelis supported.
: >: >: Or two warships attacked with Israeli support.
: >: >:
: >: >: I'm familiar with the USS Liberty, which the Israelis actually did
: >: >: attack.
: >: >
: >: >
: >: > Hmmm,
: >: > how about the phoney staged terrorist attack they levied at
: >: > an American Embassy wherein they attacked the embassy dressed
: >: > in Arab garb so it would look like Arabs did it?
: >: >
: >: > Does that incident count?
: >:
: >: Hmmm, I guess. That is, if imaginary events counted, and the
: >: emabassy was on a warship.
: >:
: >: <snip>
: >
: > I guess I did word that a bit off. I didn't mean that the staged
: > terrorist attack was phoney, but rather the very *real* attack on the
: > US embassy was staged to look like someone else did it.
: >
: > http://www.mideastweb.org/lavon.htm
:: The agents set off minor explosions in two USIA libraries. No deaths, no
: injuries, no major damage, no embassies, no warships.
:: A "bit off"?
Ok,, way off, but an interesting piece of history nevertheless IMHO :-)
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