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Is It Possible Bush Might "Visit" The International Criminal Court?



Drooler
4/26/2008 9:13:06 AM


mericans know that America -- the U.S.A. -- probably will never bring
condign punishment to bear on its WHITE HOUSE WAR CRIMINAL and his
cohorts for their crimes against humanity in Iraq and elsewhere,
including our own New Orleans.
Impeachment has been off Congress's table for two years, and no
federal judicial body would ever allow trials for our Executive Branch
outlaws.
Moreover, perhaps a majority of U.S. citizens simply cannot grasp,
can't accept that their own "elected" and appointed officials could
possibly be WAR CRIMINALS, surely not like Zimbabwe's Mugabe and
Sudan's Bashir!
Not our Bushie, our own Nincompoop-In-Chief!
So, the only body even remotely likely to bring charges of war
criminality is the International Criminal Court, located at The Hague,
Netherlands. But the U.S., as you might expect, is not a member of
the ICC, which has about 150 member nations.
Naturally, your Nincompoop-In-Chief's misadministration has
consistently "declined' membership. Bushie and his co-criminals KNOW
they are culpable, and do not want to end up like Hermann Goering and
Rudolf Hess, tried and found guilty at Nuremberg for their Nazi crimes
against ... the world.
So, the following account provides some insight into the involvement
of the ICC in international criminal cases.
There IS hope for international justice for crimes against Iraqis, but
not much.
Meanwhile, like O.J. Simpson, the likes of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld,
Wolfowitz, Feith, Bremer, Franks, Rove, Powell, Rice, Ashcroft,
Gonzales, Yoo, and countless CEOs and managers of U.S. contractors in
Iraq, will likey GET AWAY WITH MURDER!
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"Rights Groups Launch Campaign to Press for Darfur Arrests"
By Nora Boustany
Washington Post Foreign Service
Saturday, April 26, 2008; A13
One year after the International Criminal Court in The Hague issued
arrest warrants for a Sudanese minister and a militia leader on 51
counts of war crimes and crimes against humanity, human rights and
international groups yesterday launched a campaign to force the
Khartoum government to stop blocking attempts to bring to justice
those responsible for atrocities in Sudan's Darfur region.
The Justice for Darfur coalition, cobbled together during meetings in
Paris last month, comprises about 30 organizations, including Amnesty
International, the New York-based Human Rights Watch and groups from
Canada, Britain, the Middle East and Africa.
"By blatantly obstructing justice, Sudan's President Bashir and his
underlings are parading their pariah credentials before the world
community," said Richard Dicker, Human Rights Watch's international
justice program director. "We look to the [U.N.] Security Council and
other states to make clear that stonewalling accountability for
horrific crimes comes close to active complicity in these deeds."
Some international experts estimate that as many as 450,000 people
have died from disease and violence and that more than 2.5 million
have been displaced since the conflict in Darfur began in 2003, when
rebels took up arms against the Sudanese government. The government
puts the death toll at 9,000.
Last year, the court sent to Khartoum arrest warrants for then-
Interior Minister Ahmad Harun, accused of financing, arming and
inciting the horse-mounted Janjaweed militia that carried out mass
killings of civilians in Darfur in 2003-2004, and for Ali Kushayb, a
Janjaweed leader. Both men are still at large. Harun has been named
Sudan's state minister for humanitarian affairs, putting him in charge
of the same people the Janjaweed had driven into camps. Kushayb has
been released from a Sudanese prison after being convicted of
unrelated offences.
"The thousands of people who suffered the murder, rape and persecution
in Darfur deserve justice," said Dismas Nkunda, co-chairman of the
Darfur Consortium, a group of African and Middle Eastern
nongovernmental organizations that has also thrown its weight behind
the coalition. "Instead, all they have had is disdain from their own
government and empty words from the international community."
Arab and African governments have been reluctant to publicly condemn
Sudan's role in atrocities in Darfur or to back motions to that effect
before the U.N. Commission on Human Rights in Geneva. The new
coalition could change that, Dicker said.
"The campaign can be the vehicle to engage both African and Arab civil
society to help our NGO partners in their regions to raise their
voices against Sudan's lack of compliance," he said.
Prince Zeid al-Hussein, a former president of the International
Criminal Court's governing board, said: "Any action that complies with
Security Council resolutions to assure that no one escapes the
responsibility for having committed massive crimes is worthy of our
support. We support the ICC and believe that all countries must
cooperate with its decisions and requests for arrests . . . including
Sudan."
At a conference in Chicago yesterday sponsored by the MacArthur
Foundation, ICC chief prosecutor Luis Moreno Ocampo branded Harun "a
fugitive" and disclosed that he is ready to present evidence from a
second probe into who is responsible for allowing Harun and Kushayb to
remain active and who bears the greatest responsibility for ongoing
and systematic attacks against civilians in Darfur, a reference to
Sudan's top leadership.
But, of course, the U.S. is not a MEMBER of the ICC, which has about
150 nations under its umbrella. Rights Groups Launch Campaign to Press
for Darfur Arrests
since the conflict in Darfur began in 2003, when rebels took up arms
against the Sudanese government. The government puts the death toll at
9,000.
Last year, the court sent to Khartoum arrest warrants for then-
Interior Minister Ahmad Harun, accused of financing, arming and
inciting the horse-mounted Janjaweed militia that carried out mass
killings of civilians in Darfur in 2003-2004, and for Ali Kushayb, a
Janjaweed leader. Both men are still at large. Harun has been named
Sudan's state minister for humanitarian affairs, putting him in charge
of the same people the Janjaweed had driven into camps. Kushayb has
been released from a Sudanese prison after being convicted of
unrelated offences.
"The thousands of people who suffered the murder, rape and persecution
in Darfur deserve justice," said Dismas Nkunda, co-chairman of the
Darfur Consortium, a group of African and Middle Eastern
nongovernmental organizations that has also thrown its weight behind
the coalition. "Instead, all they have had is disdain from their own
government and empty words from the international community."
Arab and African governments have been reluctant to publicly condemn
Sudan's role in atrocities in Darfur or to back motions to that effect
before the U.N. Commission on Human Rights in Geneva. The new
coalition could change that, Dicker said.
"The campaign can be the vehicle to engage both African and Arab civil
society to help our NGO partners in their regions to raise their
voices against Sudan's lack of compliance," he said.
Prince Zeid al-Hussein, a former president of the International
Criminal Court's governing board, said: "Any action that complies with
Security Council resolutions to assure that no one escapes the
responsibility for having committed massive crimes is worthy of our
support. We su
 
 
Hairy Dope
4/26/2008 12:10:11 PM


I imagine that after Jan. 20, 2009, at least some of the Bush crowd
will face civil lawsuits from some quarters, but with the Supreme
Court totally in-step with our war criminals, such cases probably
won't get very far. I'm anxious to see how the Repubs manage to get
the November 2008 prez election thrown their way.
 
 
Bill
4/28/2008 9:55:40 AM


On Apr 26, 3:10 pm, Hairy Dope <clitte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I imagine that after Jan. 20, 2009, at least some of the Bush crowd
will face civil lawsuits from some quarters, but with the Supreme
Court totally in-step with our war criminals, such cases probably
won't get very far. I'm anxious to see how the Repubs manage to get
the November 2008 prez election thrown their way.
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It always amazes me that no matter who the Repub is, he is SO
VEHEMENTLY HATED by the left.
Even if the Repub is really one of them; such as Gov. Arnold, McCain,
or several hundred other liberal Repubs.
Just the moniker of Repub brings out the claws and the teeth in the
lefties.
I'm still waiting for the war crimes court to convene on Mr. Clinton
regarding:
Bosnia, Somalia and the bombings he himself conducted on Iraq.....
Mr. Bill
 
 
Deadrat
4/28/2008 7:37:38 PM


Bill <ars_wa8mea@netzero.com> wrote in
news:3207b85a-7fbc-463e-bc8e-a8ee8bda4e56@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
On Apr 26, 3:10 pm, Hairy Dope <clitte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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It always amazes me that no matter who the Repub is, he is SO
VEHEMENTLY HATED by the left.
Even if the Repub is really one of them; such as Gov. Arnold, McCain,
or several hundred other liberal Repubs.
Horse#@($. First of all, you can't name "several hundred" liberal
Republican officeholders. They are an endangered species. Gov. Arnold
has broad support from Democrats, including George Clooney. McCain isn't
a liberal in any sense of the word: he's George Bush but much older.
Claiborne Pell (LibR-RI, ret), Christopher Shays (LibR-CT), Lincoln
Chafee (LibR-RI, ret), Susan Collins (LibR-ME) are vehemently hated only
by their rightard fellow Republicans. And if you're old enough to
remember Nelson Rockefeller, you may recall that it was the rightards who
objected to his nomination to be VP.
Just the moniker of Repub brings out the claws and the teeth in the
lefties.
I'm still waiting for the war crimes court to convene on Mr. Clinton
regarding:
Bosnia, Somalia and the bombings he himself conducted on Iraq.....
You'll be waiting a while. Clinton bombed Bosnia to stop a genocide.
The US acted as part of NATO. There was nothing to bomb in Somalia.
Clinton sent troops, again under UN auspices. Clinton bombed Iraq to
enforce the no-fly zones, which were part of the agreement that ended the
first Gulf War.
Mr. Bill
 
 
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