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mericans know that America -- the U.S.A. -- probably will never bring condign punishment to bear on its WHITE HOUSE WAR CRIMINAL and his cohorts for their crimes against humanity in Iraq and elsewhere, including our own New Orleans. Impeachment has been off Congress's table for two years, and no federal judicial body would ever allow trials for our Executive Branch outlaws. Moreover, perhaps a majority of U.S. citizens simply cannot grasp, can't accept that their own "elected" and appointed officials could possibly be WAR CRIMINALS, surely not like Zimbabwe's Mugabe and Sudan's Bashir! Not our Bushie, our own Nincompoop-In-Chief! So, the only body even remotely likely to bring charges of war criminality is the International Criminal Court, located at The Hague, Netherlands. But the U.S., as you might expect, is not a member of the ICC, which has about 150 member nations. Naturally, your Nincompoop-In-Chief's misadministration has consistently "declined' membership. Bushie and his co-criminals KNOW they are culpable, and do not want to end up like Hermann Goering and Rudolf Hess, tried and found guilty at Nuremberg for their Nazi crimes against ... the world. So, the following account provides some insight into the involvement of the ICC in international criminal cases. There IS hope for international justice for crimes against Iraqis, but not much. Meanwhile, like O.J. Simpson, the likes of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Feith, Bremer, Franks, Rove, Powell, Rice, Ashcroft, Gonzales, Yoo, and countless CEOs and managers of U.S. contractors in Iraq, will likey GET AWAY WITH MURDER! ------------------------------- "Rights Groups Launch Campaign to Press for Darfur Arrests" By Nora Boustany Washington Post Foreign Service Saturday, April 26, 2008; A13 One year after the International Criminal Court in The Hague issued arrest warrants for a Sudanese minister and a militia leader on 51 counts of war crimes and crimes against humanity, human rights and international groups yesterday launched a campaign to force the Khartoum government to stop blocking attempts to bring to justice those responsible for atrocities in Sudan's Darfur region. The Justice for Darfur coalition, cobbled together during meetings in Paris last month, comprises about 30 organizations, including Amnesty International, the New York-based Human Rights Watch and groups from Canada, Britain, the Middle East and Africa. "By blatantly obstructing justice, Sudan's President Bashir and his underlings are parading their pariah credentials before the world community," said Richard Dicker, Human Rights Watch's international justice program director. "We look to the [U.N.] Security Council and other states to make clear that stonewalling accountability for horrific crimes comes close to active complicity in these deeds." Some international experts estimate that as many as 450,000 people have died from disease and violence and that more than 2.5 million have been displaced since the conflict in Darfur began in 2003, when rebels took up arms against the Sudanese government. The government puts the death toll at 9,000. Last year, the court sent to Khartoum arrest warrants for then- Interior Minister Ahmad Harun, accused of financing, arming and inciting the horse-mounted Janjaweed militia that carried out mass killings of civilians in Darfur in 2003-2004, and for Ali Kushayb, a Janjaweed leader. Both men are still at large. Harun has been named Sudan's state minister for humanitarian affairs, putting him in charge of the same people the Janjaweed had driven into camps. Kushayb has been released from a Sudanese prison after being convicted of unrelated offences. "The thousands of people who suffered the murder, rape and persecution in Darfur deserve justice," said Dismas Nkunda, co-chairman of the Darfur Consortium, a group of African and Middle Eastern nongovernmental organizations that has also thrown its weight behind the coalition. "Instead, all they have had is disdain from their own government and empty words from the international community." Arab and African governments have been reluctant to publicly condemn Sudan's role in atrocities in Darfur or to back motions to that effect before the U.N. Commission on Human Rights in Geneva. The new coalition could change that, Dicker said. "The campaign can be the vehicle to engage both African and Arab civil society to help our NGO partners in their regions to raise their voices against Sudan's lack of compliance," he said. Prince Zeid al-Hussein, a former president of the International Criminal Court's governing board, said: "Any action that complies with Security Council resolutions to assure that no one escapes the responsibility for having committed massive crimes is worthy of our support. We support the ICC and believe that all countries must cooperate with its decisions and requests for arrests . . . including Sudan." At a conference in Chicago yesterday sponsored by the MacArthur Foundation, ICC chief prosecutor Luis Moreno Ocampo branded Harun "a fugitive" and disclosed that he is ready to present evidence from a second probe into who is responsible for allowing Harun and Kushayb to remain active and who bears the greatest responsibility for ongoing and systematic attacks against civilians in Darfur, a reference to Sudan's top leadership. But, of course, the U.S. is not a MEMBER of the ICC, which has about 150 nations under its umbrella. Rights Groups Launch Campaign to Press for Darfur Arrests since the conflict in Darfur began in 2003, when rebels took up arms against the Sudanese government. The government puts the death toll at 9,000. Last year, the court sent to Khartoum arrest warrants for then- Interior Minister Ahmad Harun, accused of financing, arming and inciting the horse-mounted Janjaweed militia that carried out mass killings of civilians in Darfur in 2003-2004, and for Ali Kushayb, a Janjaweed leader. Both men are still at large. Harun has been named Sudan's state minister for humanitarian affairs, putting him in charge of the same people the Janjaweed had driven into camps. Kushayb has been released from a Sudanese prison after being convicted of unrelated offences. "The thousands of people who suffered the murder, rape and persecution in Darfur deserve justice," said Dismas Nkunda, co-chairman of the Darfur Consortium, a group of African and Middle Eastern nongovernmental organizations that has also thrown its weight behind the coalition. "Instead, all they have had is disdain from their own government and empty words from the international community." Arab and African governments have been reluctant to publicly condemn Sudan's role in atrocities in Darfur or to back motions to that effect before the U.N. Commission on Human Rights in Geneva. The new coalition could change that, Dicker said. "The campaign can be the vehicle to engage both African and Arab civil society to help our NGO partners in their regions to raise their voices against Sudan's lack of compliance," he said. Prince Zeid al-Hussein, a former president of the International Criminal Court's governing board, said: "Any action that complies with Security Council resolutions to assure that no one escapes the responsibility for having committed massive crimes is worthy of our support. We su
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I imagine that after Jan. 20, 2009, at least some of the Bush crowd will face civil lawsuits from some quarters, but with the Supreme Court totally in-step with our war criminals, such cases probably won't get very far. I'm anxious to see how the Repubs manage to get the November 2008 prez election thrown their way.
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On Apr 26, 3:10 pm, Hairy Dope <clitte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I imagine that after Jan. 20, 2009, at least some of the Bush crowd will face civil lawsuits from some quarters, but with the Supreme Court totally in-step with our war criminals, such cases probably won't get very far. I'm anxious to see how the Repubs manage to get the November 2008 prez election thrown their way.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It always amazes me that no matter who the Repub is, he is SO VEHEMENTLY HATED by the left. Even if the Repub is really one of them; such as Gov. Arnold, McCain, or several hundred other liberal Repubs. Just the moniker of Repub brings out the claws and the teeth in the lefties. I'm still waiting for the war crimes court to convene on Mr. Clinton regarding: Bosnia, Somalia and the bombings he himself conducted on Iraq..... Mr. Bill
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Bill <ars_wa8mea@netzero.com> wrote in news:3207b85a-7fbc-463e-bc8e-a8ee8bda4e56@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
On Apr 26, 3:10 pm, Hairy Dope <clitte...@yahoo.com> wrote: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------- It always amazes me that no matter who the Repub is, he is SO VEHEMENTLY HATED by the left. Even if the Repub is really one of them; such as Gov. Arnold, McCain, or several hundred other liberal Repubs.
Horse#@($. First of all, you can't name "several hundred" liberal Republican officeholders. They are an endangered species. Gov. Arnold has broad support from Democrats, including George Clooney. McCain isn't a liberal in any sense of the word: he's George Bush but much older. Claiborne Pell (LibR-RI, ret), Christopher Shays (LibR-CT), Lincoln Chafee (LibR-RI, ret), Susan Collins (LibR-ME) are vehemently hated only by their rightard fellow Republicans. And if you're old enough to remember Nelson Rockefeller, you may recall that it was the rightards who objected to his nomination to be VP.
Just the moniker of Repub brings out the claws and the teeth in the lefties. I'm still waiting for the war crimes court to convene on Mr. Clinton regarding: Bosnia, Somalia and the bombings he himself conducted on Iraq.....
You'll be waiting a while. Clinton bombed Bosnia to stop a genocide. The US acted as part of NATO. There was nothing to bomb in Somalia. Clinton sent troops, again under UN auspices. Clinton bombed Iraq to enforce the no-fly zones, which were part of the agreement that ended the first Gulf War.
Mr. Bill
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