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"ishtar.come@ntlworld.com"
11/14/2007 5:19:19 PM


On Nov 14, 4:27 pm, Ed <ed-ro...@nochoppedpork.co.uk> wrote:
Good.
==========================================================
Hans Ruesch, founder of the modern scientific anti-vivisection
movement, died on Monday 27th August 2007, aged 94.
Though to some people purportedly fighting vivisection this will mean
little, his books having been shielded from them by the leaders of the
big 'anti-vivisection societies', it is very much a truth that a
beacon of light has gone out. The AV movement, largely unaware it may
be, has lost a great and courageous man, a rare genius who stood out
in an ocean of mediocrity that the AV 'movement' today represents.
Though Hans was an animal lover, and pleaded for abolition from a
moral stance, he also fully realised the futility of campaigning
against vivisection on moral grounds alone, and as a virtual one-man
band his CIVIS organisation claimed many successes in its battle
against vivisection.
There is currently little meaningful opposition to vivisection in the
United Kingdom: apathy, short-sightedness and an inability on the part
of most people within the movement to understand the issue of
vivisection has resulted in an anti-vivisection movement that is
unable, or unwilling, to respond effectively to the challenges that it
faces, and the lies as put forward by the pro-vivisection
establishment. It is also very true that vivisection will never end so
long as concerned people believe that the notion of animal rights can
end the organised and state-legalised fraud of animal experimentation.
This has been gone over thoroughly in the article, Time to Face Facts
Furthermore, that many people in the movement continue to offer
support, both financial and vocal, to those organisations and
individuals whose words, actions and policies clearly go against the
interests of an anti-vivisection movement that MUST change tact if it
is to get anywhere, whilst ignoring all evidence as to the rampant
infiltration such organisations have been subjected to, are obviously
major factors in having brought about the current dire state of the AV
movement.
This web site is for the benefit of those who wish to break free from
the web of deception as spun by the major 'anti-vivisection'
organisations out there, including their various phoney 'funds for
alternatives', whose only success has been to relieve gullible
campaigners of their money whilst helping to spread the lie that the
only way to end vivisection is through the development of
'alternatives'. This site will also, I hope, serve as a tribute to a
courageous man, whose dream of abolition was, sadly, not realised in
his life-time, although it is a fact that when abolition does come it
will be Ruesch's name that will take its rightful place in the history
books as having brought about this great leap in humanity's evolution.
As the essential first step, read Slaughter of the Innocent. Written
30 years ago, and still in print, it is as valid a call for abolition
as it ever was. Then read his follow-up, Naked Empress.
Read the two CIVIS Bulletins from 1983 and 1988 (complete on this
site). Though for many people new to the movement some - though not
all - of the names of people and organisations in them will be
unknown, whilst many will no longer be around, the facts within them
are a major document of the history of the AV movement over a 20 or so
year period. They should be read with the following in mind: "He who
forgets the past is doomed to repeat it", the point of which should be
clear to anyone capable of thought. It is my hope that soon a concise
and accurate history of the AV movement to date will be written, and
which will go a long way to opening the eyes of all those who wonder
just why vivisection has continued into the 21st century.
Follow these with the CIVIS Foundation Reports, starting with number
one and read through in sequence.
Read the CIVIS 'Black Booklet'; Vivisection is Scientific Fraud. 42
pages of b/w photos from vivisection labs the world over, and
originally part of the first edition of Naked Empress. Again, a lesson
from history, and perfectly valid as ever, despite the veneer of
respectability that the proponents of vivisection try to place over
the practice in order to hide the ghastly truth from the public. In
reality, despite the intervening years since this booklet came out,
little has changed for lab animals.
Finally there is the CIVIS Questions and Answers booklet, and a few
selected articles.
My advice for those new to the horrors of vivisection, and who
GENUINELY wish to do something about it, rather than dream, would be
to read the CIVIS literature and to treat it as a beacon of light to
guide you. Use it as the standard by which all future so-called AV
campaigners, organisations, books, and articles you come into contact
with are judged. Ideally, any campaigning groups, no matter how small,
would be based upon these works. Remember that a one man outfit can
achieve - indeed, did achieve - much more than the biggest so-called
'anti-vivisection' organisations, with their numerous staff and large
incomes, if run upon genuine lines.
To anyone seriously contemplating joining the fight against
vivisection I respectfully suggest that:
A) The notion of 'animal rights' is consigned to the history books; it
has reduced the level of anti-vivisectionism to the level of
playground squabbling, whilst creating a loathing on the part of most
people for the anti-vivisection movement.
B) Any discussion about 'alternatives' to vivisection, or the
'3Rs' (reduction, replacement, refinement) is not entered into for
reasons that should be obvious to those who have read the material on
this site.
==================================================
The above is reproduced from the BAVA website.
For a more realistic view of what this is all about, see:
http://groups.google.ie/group/The-Voice-of-the-Voiceless/browse_thread/thread/ecfa0106e8c7bbe9?hl=en
 
 
JAF
11/14/2007 6:02:06 PM


On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:19:19 -0000, "ishtar.come@ntlworld.com"
<ishtar.come@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Hans Ruesch, founder of the modern scientific anti-vivisection
movement, died on Monday 27th August 2007, aged 94.
Has he donated his body to medical science?
--
JAF anarchatntlworldfullstopcom
No two people see the same rainbow
 
 
"ishtar.come@ntlworld.com"
11/14/2007 6:20:34 PM


Why didn't one of you AV #@($ebags tell me that Hans Ruesch died in
August?
I happened upon the news today, 14 November 2007, when looking for
something else on the BAVA website.
I screamed for Vicky and leaned against her breasts and wept
hysterically....
Hans Ruesch is dead.
I'm still weeping as I write this.
He's worth weeping for.
Why did you not tell me at the time, you #@($ebags......... ?
I'm not into funerals, but to express my respect for Hans Ruesch I
might have done something ........... if you had told me at the
time........
I suppose you're still feeling guilty about the suppression of the
Citizens Arrest Initiative.
http://www.nzavs.org.nz/mobilise/27/12.html
You are false.
You are false.
You are false.
It all ended in 1990.
But we need to evaluate our psychological impairment which caused us
to reject the Citizens Arrest Initiative.
It's not a case of feeling guilty about the suppression of the
Citizens Arrest Initiative.
It's just a case of acknowledging that we are very severely mentally
impaired.
http://www.article-planet.com/article314.html
Why didn't you tell me, when it happened.
Yes, a light has gone out.
He's gone now.
They've all gone.......... Wilhelm Reich, Immanuel Velikovsky, Hans
Ruesch, Paul Brunton.......
And the avalanche of "animal tested" (=untested) poisons is rotting
our brains, so no other men like them can emerge......... because our
brains are made of #@($ now..... meaning all these "animal
tested" (=untested) poisons are rotting our brains, hence the "dumbing
down" and all the other imbecility you see around you..........
"animal tested" (=untested) poisons are rotting our brains..... so
there will be no more great men like Wilhelm Reich, Immanuel
Velikovsky, Hans Ruesch, Paul Brunton.......... Our brains are made of
#@($ now, because our brains are filled with "animal
tested" (=untested) poisons....
As I said in 1987:
"WE ARE NOT GOING TO ABOLISH VIVISECTION.
VIVISECTION IS GOING TO ABOLISH US."
Hans Ruesch is dead.
What now for planet earth?
http://groups.google.com/group/us.legal/browse_thread/thread/3bee94a7f7d25cac/9d5487686a103e9b?hl=en#9d5487686a103e9b
 
 
"ishtar.come@ntlworld.com"
11/14/2007 6:56:07 PM


What is it with you #@($ebags at BAVA?
Why can't you and Patrick and Sue and Bina and Bette and the others
FACE the FACT that it all ENDED in 1990.............?
It finished there and then in 1990.
Yes, the true history should be written, if the present #@($
civilisation holds together............. but is BAVA happy about the
true history of the AV movement........... the crucial event being the
suppression of the Citizens Arrest Initiative in 1990.......
That event in 1990 was pivotal.
After you rejected the Citizens Arrest Initiative, the ruling group
knew they had a free hand to do whatever they wanted to do to us.
Next came the Treaty of Maastricht..... and the rest.......
They've got us.
You surrendered to them in 1990, when you remained silent on the
Citizens Arrest Initiative.
I'm willing to help you @$#*ers at BAVA, and your cohorts, to come
into the real world. But not in writing. Reply only by telephone.
 
 
Old Jinglebollocks
11/14/2007 3:34:04 PM


On Nov 14, 6:56 pm, "ishtar.c...@ntlworld.com"
<ishtar.c...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
What is it with you #@($ebags at BAVA?
Why can't you and Patrick and Sue and Bina and Bette and the others
FACE the FACT that it all ENDED in 1990.............?
It finished there and then in 1990.
Yes, the true history should be written, if the present #@($
civilisation holds together............. but is BAVA happy about the
true history of the AV movement........... the crucial event being the
suppression of the Citizens Arrest Initiative in 1990.......
That event in 1990 was pivotal.
After you rejected the Citizens Arrest Initiative, the ruling group
knew they had a free hand to do whatever they wanted to do to us.
Next came the Treaty of Maastricht..... and the rest.......
They've got us.
You surrendered to them in 1990, when you remained silent on the
Citizens Arrest Initiative.
I'm willing to help you @$#*ers at BAVA, and your cohorts, to come
into the real world. But not in writing. Reply only by telephone.
==========================
Hans Ruesch stepped outside the *fake debates* authorised by the
ruling group.
That's why you've never heard of him.
He's not part of the *fake debates* that the ruling group permits you
to engage in.
Hans Ruesch is dead.
What now for planet earth?
http://groups.google.ie/group/The-Voice-of-the-Voiceless/browse_thread/thread/ecfa0106e8c7bbe9?hl=en
 
 
"Janitor of Lunacy"
11/14/2007 11:52:02 PM


How I miss him! His posts to uk.legal were always pointed, witty, and above
all else, on topic.
 
 
"Edric"
11/15/2007 7:41:21 PM




"Janitor of Lunacy" <ghost@attic.info> wrote in message
news:CSL_i.263026$lV4.89158@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

How I miss him! His posts to uk.legal were always pointed, witty, and
above all else, on topic.
Who gives a @$#*
 
 
"Janitor of Lunacy"
11/15/2007 7:59:33 PM


"Edric" <edric@> wrote in message news:1destm.er5.17.1@news.alt.net...


"Janitor of Lunacy" <ghost@attic.info> wrote in message
news:CSL_i.263026$lV4.89158@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

Who gives a @$#*
Whooooosh!
 
 
"The Todal"
11/15/2007 8:52:38 PM




"Janitor of Lunacy" <ghost@attic.info> wrote in message
news:CSL_i.263026$lV4.89158@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

How I miss him! His posts to uk.legal were always pointed, witty, and
above all else, on topic.
Never heard of him, never noticed any posts from him. Could you quote one?
 
 
"Janitor of Lunacy"
11/15/2007 9:11:08 PM




"The Todal" <deadmailbox@beeb.net> wrote in message
news:5q3pslFtvtd7U1@mid.individual.net...



"Janitor of Lunacy" <ghost@attic.info> wrote in message
news:CSL_i.263026$lV4.89158@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

Never heard of him, never noticed any posts from him. Could you quote one?
You probably missed "How to spot irony" ;-))
 
 
"The Todal"
11/15/2007 9:59:16 PM




"Janitor of Lunacy" <ghost@attic.info> wrote in message
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"The Todal" <deadmailbox@beeb.net> wrote in message
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You probably missed "How to spot irony" ;-))
Oops.
 
 
Old Jinglebollocks
11/24/2007 5:08:00 PM


IVIS Bulletin Nr 2, New Year 1988 (Part Three)
Meanwhile, Gill (Langley) was riding for a fall. Even as she was
propagandizing the need for vivisection and rejecting all allegations
that she was an infiltrator, the shining fortress of humaneness she
had built around herself came unstuck. A vegan, Mr Alfred Bunting of
Uxbridge, while investigating how come a Dr Christopher Langley had
ever managed to escalate into the directorship of the Vegan Society of
Great Britain, made a startling discovery, concerning not only this
Christopher Langley, but also his wife, Gill: both Chris and Gill were
trained vivisectors - and Christopher Langley was an employee of Ciba-
Geigy to boot! This Swiss multinational had conducted a covert,
intense smear propaganda against Hans Ruesch's works in Switzerland.
This gave at last a logical explanation to Gill Langley's persistent
defamation of Hans Ruesch in the anti-vivisectionist press.
Following is an abstract of a letter Mr A Bunting addressed to Mark
Souster of the Sunday Mirror on May 10, 1987, explaining the Langley
case:
"Thank you for your article today, publicising the fiendish cruelty of
Professor Colin Blakemore of Oxford University. But I am surprised to
see your mention that 'Dr Gill Langley' pontificated on "clinical
value", as though she were a physician. She isn't.
"'Dr Gill' had no medical training whatsoever. She is Mrs Gillian Rose
Langley, nee Dymond, of 46 King's Road, Hitchin. She got her PhD for
experimenting on cockroaches. After getting her PhD she worked for
about a year at Nottingham University, experimenting on rabbits.
Though no expert on "clinical value", she certainly knows about
cruelty in laboratories. As an apparently lucrative sideline Mrs
Langley is the boss and sole paid employee of the Dr Hadwen (begging)
Trust for Humane Research. Its leaflets ask for money to be sent to
her home, though she is not the treasurer.
"Although ostensibly opposed to vivisection, Mrs Langley's writings
put in plugs for the alleged benefits of vivisection. And she never
mentions her husband's estimated =A335,000 per year Ciba-Geigy
bloodmoney. Ciba-Geigy is one of the largest multinational vivisection-
based pharmaceutical manufacturers. Its nerve centre is the CIBA
FOUNDATION FOR THE PROMOTION OF INTERNATIONAL CO-OPERATION IN MEDICAL
AND CHEMICAL RESEARCH, 41 Portland Place, London W1. Senior
Physiologist there is Mr Christopher Kenneth Langley PhD, 'Dr Gill's'
husband. Like his wife he has no medical qualification. Without
revealing his full true name or his Ciba job, 'Dr Chris Langley'
became director of the formerly humanitarian Vegan Society Ltd. In his
first 2 years as director the Society lost =A3 75,959."
But don't stop reading yet, folks. The Langley story, like Caesar's
wife, gets more exciting as the night grows older.
When the information unearthed and disseminated by Mr Bunting started
causing considerable ripples in vegan circles, the Langleys resorted
to a trick they must have learned from the confidential vade mecum of
the Swiss multinationals, revealed by the "Group of Berne", a
respectable, watchdog Swiss organisation made up of concerned
businessmen: to discredit Mr Bunting and undermine his credibility,
they started disseminating faked letters that Mr Bunting was supposed
to have written, counterfeiting his signature. This was a trick the
multinationals employed in Switzerland against us, too, at the time of
the Franz-Weber-Initiative. Mr Bunting refused to be intimidated or
disconcerted, and saw to it that in October 1986 Christopher Langley
was served with a writ that said among other things:
"You falsely and maliciously wrote and published to various persons
including Society members defamatory matter concerning me including a
faked letter to 'Dear Glad' purporting to be written by me that you
pretended I had sent you; you falsely passed off the said faked
letters as being my writing."
But meanwhile his wife, Gill, had already broken down in a desperate
attempt to restore her damaged image in the eyes of the naive who had
not yet abandoned AA or cancelled any legacies to her private Hadwen
Trust in their wills. In an amazing circular, reeking with
sanctimoniousness and soggy from crocodile tears, entitled GILL
LANGLEY'S POSITION STATEMENT ON THE McCANN/RUESCH ACCUSATIONS, she
tried to justify her past as a vivisector with the following
confession:
"Tommy McCann accuses me of having been a vivisector. These are the
facts: At university as an undergraduate (1971-74) I took part in
physiology practical classes where decerebrate rabbits were used to
demonstrate known medical facts. I intensely disliked these classes...
These experiments were not legally defined as vivisection and did not
appear in the annual statistics. They are standard practice for
physiology students...I spent nearly 4 years doing a PhD (1971-74) in
which I studied the nervous system of cockroaches. I dissected many
hundreds in research which I gradually came to feel was morally
unjustified. In 1977 I became an anti-vivisectionist, persuaded by the
ethical arguments... In 1979 I could carry on no longer with work
which contradicted my principles..."
So it took this good lady, who already in 1971 "intensely disliked"
what she had been doing with decerebrate rabbits, all of 6 years of
uninterrupted laboratory activity to "become an antivivisectionist,"
and then it took her another two years of more of all that sadistic
idiocy to make her decide that she "could carry on no longer" with
that sort of work!
This document further confirms that surely a good number of cruel
experiments take place without anybody ever learning about them
because they are "not legally defined as vivisection," and thus
neither require a licence nor do they figure in the statistics - one
more "legal" trick designed to circumvent the law. There is no limit
to the inventiveness of vivisectors and their accomplices in the Home
Office.
Another interesting point in the circular is that Gill Langley once
more demonstrates that she toes the Syndicate's line by objecting to
vivisection solely on "ethical" grounds, as if those obscenities
involving animals had the slightest medical value, which she once more
seems to take for granted. And she tactfully refrains from ever
mentioning the CIBA-GEIGY connection of her devoted husband, Chris,
during all the years of anguish she allegedly underwent on witnessing
the suffering she had to inflict to her victims.
Anyway, Gill Langley will hardly last very long as the spiritual head
of AA. An infiltrator, once unmasked, becomes useless to the
Syndicate. Mark Gold, who figures as Editor of AA's organ, Outrage,
once wrote to a South-African correspondent: "If ever I should
discover that AA is infiltrated, I would resign." He discovered it a
year ago - unless he knew it all along - and his correspondents are
still waiting for his resignation.
However, the real wire-puller at AA is neither Langley nor Gold but
one John Bryant, who prefers to remain unobserved and figures only in
small print as one of the various Council members, after he managed to
get rid of all the honest animal welfarists like Jean Fawcett and her
husband, who were once in charge of AA's Ipswich branch.
To whom John Bryant has, in turn, to report, we have
 
 
Old Jinglebollocks
11/24/2007 5:14:38 PM


IVIS Bulletin Nr 2, New Year 1988 (Part Three)
Meanwhile, Gill was riding for a fall. Even as she was propagandizing
the need for vivisection and rejecting all allegations that she was an
infiltrator, the shining fortress of humaneness she had built around
herself came unstuck. A vegan, Mr Alfred Bunting of Uxbridge, while
investigating how come a Dr Christopher Langley had ever managed to
escalate into the directorship of the Vegan Society of Great Britain,
made a startling discovery, concerning not only this Christopher
Langley, but also his wife, Gill: both Chris and Gill were trained
vivisectors - and Christopher Langley was an employee of Ciba-Geigy to
boot! This Swiss multinational had conducted a covert, intense smear
propaganda against Hans Ruesch's works in Switzerland. This gave at
last a logical explanation to Gill Langley's persistent defamation of
Hans Ruesch in the anti-vivisectionist press.
Following is an abstract of a letter Mr A Bunting addressed to Mark
Souster of the Sunday Mirror on May 10, 1987, explaining the Langley
case:
"Thank you for your article today, publicising the fiendish cruelty of
Professor Colin Blakemore of Oxford University. But I am surprised to
see your mention that 'Dr Gill Langley' pontificated on "clinical
value", as though she were a physician. She isn't.
"'Dr Gill' had no medical training whatsoever. She is Mrs Gillian Rose
Langley, nee Dymond, of 46 King's Road, Hitchin. She got her PhD for
experimenting on cockroaches. After getting her PhD she worked for
about a year at Nottingham University, experimenting on rabbits.
Though no expert on "clinical value", she certainly knows about
cruelty in laboratories. As an apparently lucrative sideline Mrs
Langley is the boss and sole paid employee of the Dr Hadwen (begging)
Trust for Humane Research. Its leaflets ask for money to be sent to
her home, though she is not the treasurer.
"Although ostensibly opposed to vivisection, Mrs Langley's writings
put in plugs for the alleged benefits of vivisection. And she never
mentions her husband's estimated =A335,000 per year Ciba-Geigy
bloodmoney. Ciba-Geigy is one of the largest multinational vivisection-
based pharmaceutical manufacturers. Its nerve centre is the CIBA
FOUNDATION FOR THE PROMOTION OF INTERNATIONAL CO-OPERATION IN MEDICAL
AND CHEMICAL RESEARCH, 41 Portland Place, London W1. Senior
Physiologist there is Mr Christopher Kenneth Langley PhD, 'Dr Gill's'
husband. Like his wife he has no medical qualification. Without
revealing his full true name or his Ciba job, 'Dr Chris Langley'
became director of the formerly humanitarian Vegan Society Ltd. In his
first 2 years as director the Society lost =A3 75,959."
But don't stop reading yet, folks. The Langley story, like Caesar's
wife, gets more exciting as the night grows older.
When the information unearthed and disseminated by Mr Bunting started
causing considerable ripples in vegan circles, the Langleys resorted
to a trick they must have learned from the confidential vade mecum of
the Swiss multinationals, revealed by the "Group of Berne", a
respectable, watchdog Swiss organisation made up of concerned
businessmen: to discredit Mr Bunting and undermine his credibility,
they started disseminating faked letters that Mr Bunting was supposed
to have written, counterfeiting his signature. This was a trick the
multinationals employed in Switzerland against us, too, at the time of
the Franz-Weber-Initiative. Mr Bunting refused to be intimidated or
disconcerted, and saw to it that in October 1986 Christopher Langley
was served with a writ that said among other things:
"You falsely and maliciously wrote and published to various persons
including Society members defamatory matter concerning me including a
faked letter to 'Dear Glad' purporting to be written by me that you
pretended I had sent you; you falsely passed off the said faked
letters as being my writing."
But meanwhile his wife, Gill, had already broken down in a desperate
attempt to restore her damaged image in the eyes of the naive who had
not yet abandoned AA or cancelled any legacies to her private Hadwen
Trust in their wills. In an amazing circular, reeking with
sanctimoniousness and soggy from crocodile tears, entitled GILL
LANGLEY'S POSITION STATEMENT ON THE McCANN/RUESCH ACCUSATIONS, she
tried to justify her past as a vivisector with the following
confession:
"Tommy McCann accuses me of having been a vivisector. These are the
facts: At university as an undergraduate (1971-74) I took part in
physiology practical classes where decerebrate rabbits were used to
demonstrate known medical facts. I intensely disliked these classes...
These experiments were not legally defined as vivisection and did not
appear in the annual statistics. They are standard practice for
physiology students...I spent nearly 4 years doing a PhD (1971-74) in
which I studied the nervous system of cockroaches. I dissected many
hundreds in research which I gradually came to feel was morally
unjustified. In 1977 I became an anti-vivisectionist, persuaded by the
ethical arguments... In 1979 I could carry on no longer with work
which contradicted my principles..."
So it took this good lady, who already in 1971 "intensely disliked"
what she had been doing with decerebrate rabbits, all of 6 years of
uninterrupted laboratory activity to "become an antivivisectionist,"
and then it took her another two years of more of all that sadistic
idiocy to make her decide that she "could carry on no longer" with
that sort of work!
This document further confirms that surely a good number of cruel
experiments take place without anybody ever learning about them
because they are "not legally defined as vivisection," and thus
neither require a licence nor do they figure in the statistics - one
more "legal" trick designed to circumvent the law. There is no limit
to the inventiveness of vivisectors and their accomplices in the Home
Office.
Another interesting point in the circular is that Gill Langley once
more demonstrates that she toes the Syndicate's line by objecting to
vivisection solely on "ethical" grounds, as if those obscenities
involving animals had the slightest medical value, which she once more
seems to take for granted. And she tactfully refrains from ever
mentioning the CIBA-GEIGY connection of her devoted husband, Chris,
during all the years of anguish she allegedly underwent on witnessing
the suffering she had to inflict to her victims.
Anyway, Gill Langley will hardly last very long as the spiritual head
of AA. An infiltrator, once unmasked, becomes useless to the
Syndicate. Mark Gold, who figures as Editor of AA's organ, Outrage,
once wrote to a South-African correspondent: "If ever I should
discover that AA is infiltrated, I would resign." He discovered it a
year ago - unless he knew it all along - and his correspondents are
still waiting for his resignation.
However, the real wire-puller at AA is neither Langley nor Gold but
one John Bryant, who prefers to remain unobserved and figures only in
small print as one of the various Council members, after he managed to
get rid of all the honest animal welfarists like Jean Fawcett and her
husband, who were once in charge of AA's Ipswich branch.
To whom John Bryant has, in turn, to report, we have not
 
 
Old Jinglebollocks
11/24/2007 5:27:08 PM


If only we'd had Tony Holland on our side back then in the
1980s............
............Gill Langley would have been sneaking out her back door at
3am wearing a false beard, never to be heard from again.
Tony Holland would have knocked the #@($e out of Gill Langley.
 
 
"ishtar.come@ntlworld.com"
11/26/2007 8:43:29 PM


n Nov 25, 1:27 am, Old Jinglebollocks
<Old.Jinglebollo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
If only we'd had Tony Holland on our side back then in the
1980s............
...........Gill Langley would have been sneaking out her back door at
3am wearing a false beard, never to be heard from again.
Tony Holland would have knocked the #@($e out of Gill Langley.
========================================================
The Vivisection Swindle is one of the greatest of taboos. Nobody
wants
to touch it.
The *fake debate* on vivisection eclipses the truth.
And nobody wants to see that truth.
In early 1988, when Hans Ruesch's second "Bulletin" was circulated
(free of charge), the Langleys of this world were worried, even
afraid, afraid that the people would put two and two together and
come
around to the infiltrators' homes and lynch them. In this connection
Iadvised Mrs Langley at the time to invest in a false beard.
In actual fact, by 1988, the surge of awareness and realism regarding
the Vivisection Swindle was already on the wane.
In 1990, the new scientific antivivisection movement effectively
signed its death warrant, and it's been downhill all the way since
then.
Even today, Gill Langley is still raking in donations and legacies
for
her fake, fraudulent "Dr Hadwen Trust," which says 'give me your
money
to try to find alternatives to vivisection,' when Mrs Langley knows
well that the only alternative to FAKE science such as the
Vivisection
Swindle is to simply stop using fake science now and revert to
genuine
science - so there never was anything to "find."
In fact a google advertisement for the organised crime scam called
the
"Dr Hadwen Trust" may even pop up alongside this post!
There is a need to say these things.
But Gill Langley will not be needing her false beard.
Nobody wants to tackle the Vivisection Swindle. The *fake debate*
will
continue. There is something about human beings which makes them
determined to commit collective suicide, determined to revert to a
state of survivalist emergency, recreating and reliving the forgotten
series of ancient survivalist emergencies in which human behaviour is
rooted.
The Vivisection Swindle, with its avalanche of "animal
tested" (=untested) poisons, is our major tool for arranging that
reversion to a state of survivalist emergency. And the *fake debate*
on vivisection to eclipse the truth is part of the package.
We are not going to do anything about it.
That was confirmed by the pivotal non-event of 1990.
Gill Langley will not be needing her false beard.
But there is a need at least for the truth to be displayed in a
public
place, for those who want to read it, a generation after that initial
but short-lived surge of awareness and realism of the 1980s.
Pages 9 to 11 of 'IMPERATRICE NUDA' (Slaughter of the Innocent) by
Hans Ruesch give the shortest route to proving Gill Langley is not
only a fraudster but a mass murderer.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Begin extract from IMPERATRICE NUDA by Hans Ruesch, also
titled "Slaughter of the Innocent," pages 9 to 11, upon which
further comment would be superfluous:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
"The Great Drug Deception" by Dr Ralph Adam Fine (Stein and
Day, New York, 1972) is just one of the many books published in
the last decade on the subject of dangerous and often lethal
drugs, but it achieved no practical results. Health
authorities, as well as the public, stubbornly refused to take
cognizance of the fact that all those drugs had been okayed and
marketed after having been proved safe for animals. Actually it
is unfair to single out just a few dangerous drugs, since there
are thousands of them.
Of course the fallacy works both ways, precluding the
acceptance of useful drugs. There is the great example of
penicillin - if we want to consider this a useful drug. Its
discoverers said they were fortunate. No guinea pigs were
available for the toxicity tests, so they used mice instead.
Penicillin kills guinea pigs. But the same guinea pigs can
safely eat strychnine, one of the deadliest poisons for humans
- but not for monkeys.
Certain wild berries are deadly for human beings, but birds
thrive on them. A dose of belladona that would kill a man is
harmless for rabbits and goats. Calomelan doesn't influence the
secretion of bile in dogs, but can treble it in man.
The use of digitalis - the main remedy for cardiac patients and
the saviour of countless lives the world over - was retarded
for a long time because it was first tested on dogs, in which
it dangerously raises blood pressure. And chloroform is so
toxic to dogs that for many years this valuable anesthetic was
not employed on patients. On the other hand a dose of opium
that would kill a man is harmless to dogs and chickens.
Datura and henbane are poison for man, but food for the snail.
The mushroom *amanita phalloides*, a small dose of which can
wipe out a whole human family, is consumed without ill effects
by the rabbit, one of the most common laboratory animals. A
porcupine can eat in one lump without discomfort as much opium
as a human addict smokes in two weeks, and wash it down with
enough prussic acid to poison a regiment of soldiers.
The sheep can swallow enormous quantities of arsenic, once the
murderers' favourite poison.
Potassium cyanide, deadly for us, is harmless for the owl, but
one of our common field pumpkins can put a horse into a serious
state of agitation. Morphine, which calms and anesthetizes man,
causes maniacal excitement in cats and mice, but dogs can stand
doses up to 20 times higher than man. On the other hand, our
sweet almonds can kill foxes and chickens, and our common
parsley is poison to parrots.
There are enough such instances to fill a book - all proving
that it would be difficult to find a more absurd and less
scientific method of medical research (than animal
experimentation).
Moreover, the anguish and sufferings of the animals, deprived
of their natural habitat or habitual surroundings, terrorized
by what they see in the laboratories and the brutalities they
are subjected to, alter their mental balance and organic
reactions to such an extent that ANY result is a priori
valueless.
The laboratory animal is a monster, made so by the
experimenters.
Physically and mentally it has very little in common with a
normal animal, and much less with man.
As even Claude Bernard (1813-1878), founder of the modern
vivisectionist method, wrote in his Physiologie Operatoire
(page 152): "The experimental animal is never in a normal
state. The normal state is merely a supposition, an
assumption."
.......................
.......................
Somebody launched the idea of breeding strains of
bacteriologically sterile laboratory animals...................
One delusion spawned another. Consistent failure made certain
of those misguided scientists realize - some haven't realized
it yet - that organic "material" raised under such abnormal
conditions differs more than ever from normal organisms.
Animals so raised never develop the natural defence mechanism,
the so-called immunological reaction, which is a salient
characteristic of every living organism. So it would be
difficult
 
 
Old Jinglebollocks
1/5/2008 6:49:32 PM


n Nov 27 2007, 4:43=A0am, "ishtar.c...@ntlworld.com"
<ishtar.c...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
On Nov 25, 1:27 am, Old Jinglebollocks
<Old.Jinglebollo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
The Vivisection Swindle is one of the greatest of taboos. Nobody
wants
to touch it.
The *fake debate* on vivisection eclipses the truth.
And nobody wants to see that truth.
In early 1988, when Hans Ruesch's second "Bulletin" was circulated
(free of charge), the Langleys of this world were worried, even
afraid, afraid that the people would put two and two together and
come
around to the infiltrators' homes and lynch them. In this connection
I
advised Mrs Langley at the time to invest in a false beard.
In actual fact, by 1988, the surge of awareness and realism regarding
the Vivisection Swindle was already on the wane.
In 1990, the new scientific antivivisection movement effectively
signed its death warrant, and it's been downhill all the way since
then.
Even today, Gill Langley is still raking in donations and legacies
for
her fake, fraudulent "Dr Hadwen Trust," which says 'give me your
money
to try to find alternatives to vivisection,' when Mrs Langley knows
well that the only alternative to FAKE science such as the
Vivisection
Swindle is to simply stop using fake science now and revert to
genuine
science - so there never was anything to "find."
In fact a google advertisement for the organised crime scam called
the
"Dr Hadwen Trust" may even pop up alongside this post!
There is a need to say these things.
But Gill Langley will not be needing her false beard.
Nobody wants to tackle the Vivisection Swindle. The *fake debate*
will
continue. There is something about human beings which makes them
determined to commit collective suicide, determined to revert to a
state of survivalist emergency, recreating and reliving the forgotten
series of ancient survivalist emergencies in which human behaviour is
rooted.
The Vivisection Swindle, with its avalanche of "animal
tested" (=3Duntested) poisons, is our major tool for arranging that
reversion to a state of survivalist emergency. And the *fake debate*
on vivisection to eclipse the truth is part of the package.
We are not going to do anything about it.
That was confirmed by the pivotal non-event of 1990.
Gill Langley will not be needing her false beard.
But there is a need at least for the truth to be displayed in a
public
place, for those who want to read it, a generation after that initial
but short-lived surge of awareness and realism of the 1980s.
Pages 9 to 11 of 'IMPERATRICE NUDA' (Slaughter of the Innocent) by
Hans Ruesch give the shortest route to proving Gill Langley is not
only a fraudster but a mass murderer.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Begin extract from IMPERATRICE NUDA by Hans Ruesch, also
titled "Slaughter of the Innocent," pages 9 to 11, upon which
further comment would be superfluous:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
"The Great Drug Deception" by Dr Ralph Adam Fine (Stein and
Day, New York, 1972) is just one of the many books published in
the last decade on the subject of dangerous and often lethal
drugs, but it achieved no practical results. Health
authorities, as well as the public, stubbornly refused to take
cognizance of the fact that all those drugs had been okayed and
marketed after having been proved safe for animals. Actually it
is unfair to single out just a few dangerous drugs, since there
are thousands of them.
Of course the fallacy works both ways, precluding the
acceptance of useful drugs. There is the great example of
penicillin - if we want to consider this a useful drug. Its
discoverers said they were fortunate. No guinea pigs were
available for the toxicity tests, so they used mice instead.
Penicillin kills guinea pigs. But the same guinea pigs can
safely eat strychnine, one of the deadliest poisons for humans
- but not for monkeys.
Certain wild berries are deadly for human beings, but birds
thrive on them. A dose of belladona that would kill a man is
harmless for rabbits and goats. Calomelan doesn't influence the
secretion of bile in dogs, but can treble it in man.
The use of digitalis - the main remedy for cardiac patients and
the saviour of countless lives the world over - was retarded
for a long time because it was first tested on dogs, in which
it dangerously raises blood pressure. And chloroform is so
toxic to dogs that for many years this valuable anesthetic was
not employed on patients. On the other hand a dose of opium
that would kill a man is harmless to dogs and chickens.
Datura and henbane are poison for man, but food for the snail.
The mushroom *amanita phalloides*, a small dose of which can
wipe out a whole human family, is consumed without ill effects
by the rabbit, one of the most common laboratory animals. A
porcupine can eat in one lump without discomfort as much opium
as a human addict smokes in two weeks, and wash it down with
enough prussic acid to poison a regiment of soldiers.
The sheep can swallow enormous quantities of arsenic, once the
murderers' favourite poison.
Potassium cyanide, deadly for us, is harmless for the owl, but
one of our common field pumpkins can put a horse into a serious
state of agitation. Morphine, which calms and anesthetizes man,
causes maniacal excitement in cats and mice, but dogs can stand
doses up to 20 times higher than man. On the other hand, our
sweet almonds can kill foxes and chickens, and our common
parsley is poison to parrots.
There are enough such instances to fill a book - all proving
that it would be difficult to find a more absurd and less
scientific method of medical research (than animal
experimentation).
Moreover, the anguish and sufferings of the animals, deprived
of their natural habitat or habitual surroundings, terrorized
by what they see in the laboratories and the brutalities they
are subjected to, alter their mental balance and organic
reactions to such an extent that ANY result is a priori
valueless.
The laboratory animal is a monster, made so by the
experimenters.
Physically and mentally it has very little in common with a
normal animal, and much less with man.
As even Claude Bernard (1813-1878), founder of the modern
vivisectionist method, wrote in his Physiologie Operatoire
(page 152): "The experimental animal is never in a normal
state. The normal state is merely a supposition, an
assumption."
......................
......................
Somebody launched the idea of breeding strains of
bacteriologically sterile laboratory animals...
 
 
Old Jinglebollocks
1/5/2008 6:57:38 PM


The Vivisection Swindle illustrates the falseness of our
civilisation.
The truth about the Vivisection Swindle is one of ten Forbidden
Subjects.
This fake civilisation rests on the foundation of denying and ignoring
those ten Forbidden Subjects.
If we confronted those ten Forbidden Subjects and acted accordingly,
the present fake civilisation would cease to exist and we would return
to the Garden of Eden, meaning our ancient state of purity, decency
and sanity of eleven thousand years ago.
The lost memories of infancy constitute another of the Forbidden
Subjects.
It is surely an amazing state of affairs when we don't remember our
infancy and therefore have no knowledge of what actually happens to
human infants, in terms of the infants' authentic perceptions and
experiences and needs.
How can you be a mother if you don't remember your own infancy? You
can't. You're just #@($ting into the wind if you try to be a mother
without remembering your own infancy.
What is education? Given that infancy is the major formative influence
in our lives, given that the authentic perceptions and experiences of
infants make us what we are, how can our "educational" system place no
emphasis on enabling everybody to recover the memories of infancy?
Now do you understand why we're all talking #@($e around here?
-Pete
"I Still Miss Someone"
http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1193285565/last-1193285565/I+Still+Miss+Someone
 
 
Old Jinglebollocks
1/21/2008 5:17:25 PM


The original post on this thread (uk.legal) is a good example of the
*Fake Debate* on vivisection, which conceals the truth about the
Vivisection Swindle.
The Vivisection Swindle is one of TEN FORBIDDEN SUBJECTS which the
people of the present tragic civilisation are carefully avoiding.
Refusing to confront those ten Forbidden Subjects is what makes the
present tragic civilisation possible. It is a civilisation based on a
game of pretending, a lie - maily the lie of avoiding the Forbidden
Subjects.
Not many people will welcome what follows here. Still, for the record,
there is an impulse that grips some of us at a time like this, an
impulse to speak the forbidden truth for the few who will want to hear
it.
What I can do now is take the original post and point out step by step
how it is a FAKE DEBATE intended to conceal the truth about the
Vivisection Swindle.
Whether "Tony Gal" knows what he is doing or is a dupe of the
infiltrators, I don't know and it doesn't matter any more.
=============================================================
TONY-GAL View profile
More options Nov 11 2007, 2:27 pm
Newsgroups: uk.legal
From: TONY-GAL <from_...@hotmail.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 06:27:09 -0800
Local: Sun, Nov 11 2007 2:27 pm
Subject: Improve Standards of Animal Welfare in European Laboratories
TO: All People Who Care
"The European Commission is currently reviewing Directive 86/609/EEC,
which sets out the rules for animal experimentation across the whole
of Europe. There is still time to make a difference to the final
draft."
====================================
REPLY:
The only sane "rule" about animal experimentation would be TOTAL
ABOLITION NOW to save human lives by stopping the avalanche of "animal
tested" (=UNTESTED) poisons which is about to destroy the earth's life
support system and bring about the collapse of our civilisation.
By joining in and promoting the FAKE DEBATE, Tony Gal confers
legitimacy on vivisection when it has no legitimacy, scientifically or
otherwise.
====================================
Tony Gal wrote:
"A new European Chemical Testing Policy called REACH proposes to Test
30,000 Chemicals of every kind - from those used in industrial
processes to the ingredients of consumer products - on Millions of
animals from mice to fish to dogs, causing untold suffering. This
Directive should help these animals while still improving standards."
=====================================
REPLY:
The FAKE DEBATE speaks of animal welfare, ignoring the truth that
"animal tests" are the same as no test at all, and so our earth is
about to be destroyed by the avalanche of UNTESTED poisons that have
been pouring out of the vivisection laboratories for the past half
century and are rotting our brains and driving us progressively more
insane, as you can see if you read your newspaper. Tony Gal's FAKE
DEBATE is designed to enable us to avoid thinking about that
uncomfortable truth by pretending the debate is only about "bigger
cages" for animals.
=====================================
Tony Gal wrote:
"The European Commission itself acknowledges that non-animal
replacements "...have the potential to provide robust information
through quality-controlled, state-of-the-art tests which are faster
and less cost-intensive than classical animal-based tests".
It has launched a Community Action Plan for the Protection and
Welfare
of Animals. This explicitly states "The final aim is to replace
animal
experiments with methods not entailing the use of an animal."
It is in all our interest that Animal Testing is replaced with
Alternatives based on Human Biology not Animals.
For evidence that superior Alternative Research & Testing is
replacing
Animal Testing visit
http://www.drhadwentrust.org/ "
================================================
REPLY:
Again, this is a FAKE DEBATE. We have no need to look for
"alternatives" to "animal tests" because "animal tests" are the same
as NO TEST, so that a vast avalanche of UNTESTED poisons has been
flooding into the environment for the past half century and is about
to destroy our civilisation completely by causing the breakdown of the
earth's life support system. Providing a link to Gill Langley's fake,
fraudulent "Dr Hadwen Trust" is the ultimate betrayal of your readers,
Tony.
================================================
Tony Gal wrote:
"Please sign "Replace all Animal Experiments in Europe"
http://www.endeuanimaltests.org/
Now political pressure is needed to encourage EU legislators to do
everything they can to maximise non-animal replacement efforts.
Contact your MEPs and urge them to use the revision process of
Directive 86/609/EEC as an opportunity to improve the Standards of
Animal Welfare in European Laboratories and make replacing with
Alternatives a priority.
For contact details of your MEPs visit
http://www.europarl.europa.eu
If you want to do more:-
Over 10,000 primates are used in experiments in Europe every year
with
the UK being Europe's largest single user followed by France and
Germany.
Please write to the European Commission and ask them to ban primate
tests. To help, a prepared letter can be found at
http://www.eceae.org/saveprimates/en/action.html
Please tell your friends and colleagues to do the same.
More information on Animal Testing from
http://www.peta.org/
http://www.buav.org
For information on Revision of Directive 86/609/EEC
http://ec.europa.eu/environment/chemicals/lab_animals/revision_en.htm
Everyone can help and you can make a difference.
Thank You
Tony, Nottingham, England"
=====================================================
REPLY:
It goes on. Tony Gal's fake debate is based on the false belief that
animal experimentation is valid and useful, when the reality is that
animal experimentation is the greatest catastrophe to befall the human
race in the past 2,700 years. The Vivisection Swindle has caused many
more human deaths and injuries than World War Two. Tony Gal's fake
debate conceals that basic fact of our lives and sends you down a
blind alley where you will "TRAVEL HOPEFULLY BUT NEVER ARRIVE" for all
eternity. That is what all these FAKE DEBATES are for. BUAV and PETA
are mentioned by Tony G. Again these are FAKE organisations which
promote the FAKE DEBATE on the Vivisection Swindle, designed to
conceal the fact that vivisection is unleashing on us an avalanche of
UNTESTED poisons which is rotting our brains and 'dumbing us down,'
making us increasingly irrational and violent (read your newspaper)
and which will soon destroy the earth's life support system and return
the human species to the state of survivalist emergency.
That's scary. Hence the FAKE DEBATE is very much in demand.
For the truth about the Vivisection Swindle, see:
http://groups.google.com/group/The-Voice-of-the-Voiceless/browse_thread/thread/ecfa0106e8c7bbe9?hl=en
 
 
Old Jinglebollocks
1/22/2008 1:57:12 PM


TONY-GAL =A0 =A0View profile
=A0 More options Nov 11 2007, 2:27 pm
"The European Commission is currently reviewing Directive 86/609/EEC,
which sets out the rules for animal experimentation across the whole
of Europe. There is still time to make a difference to the final
draft."
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It is very difficult for sane beings to have any patience with
#@($head imbeciles like "Tony Gal."
Do parents not have any natural impulse to protect their babies from
being poisoned and murdered by the Vivisection Syndicate?
We were told at school that the parenting impulse, the impulse to
protect our young, to give new life a chance, to give our babies a
good start in life.... that that is the most powerful emotional drive
in the human psyche.
It's a lie.
WHY have we not arrested all known vivisectors and marched them to the
nearest police station and demanded that all vivisectors be put on
trial .............. for mass murder of human beings on a much larger
scale than World War Two?
MURDER is MURDER.
To resurrect my slogan from the 1980s:
ANIMAL RESEARCH KILLS PEOPLE !
If the vivisectionists promote a system of pretending they are "safety
testing" the millions of new substances that have been flowing into
the environment for the past half century, when in fact THESE
SUBSTANCES HAVE NOT BEEN TESTED AT ALL, because "animal tests" are the
same as NO TEST.............. well then the vivisectors are obviously
guilty of mass murder of human beings......... ON A NUMERICAL SCALE
MUCH GREATER THAN THE ESTIMATED FIFTY MILLION HUMAN BEINGS KILLED BY
WORLD WAR TWO.
If you don't care about your own life or your own health, you MUST
care about your baby's life and health.
So WHY have you not carried out CITIZENS ARRESTS of all known
vivisectors and demanded that all known vivisectors be put on trial
for mass murder of human beings?
The same applies to infiltrators like Gill Langley who have sabotaged
the efforts of people like me who tried so hard to alert you to the
threat to your baby's health and life from the Vivisection Swindle.
[ PS - If I continue to shout loudly about the Vivisection Swindle,
watch out to see Vernon Coleman crawling out from the woodwork yet
again ! ]
"The Citizens' Arrest Initiative"
http://www.nzavs.org.nz/mobilise/27/12.html
"IMPERATRICE NUDA REVISITED"
http://groups.google.ie/group/The-Voice-of-the-Voiceless/browse_thread/threa=
d/ecfa0106e8c7bbe9?hl=3Den
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"ishtar.come@ntlworld.com"
1/24/2008 4:25:55 PM


On Jan 24, 11:15=A0pm, Old Jinglebollocks
<Old.Jinglebollo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
my servant whom I have chosen;
that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am He.
"I have declared, and have saved, and I alone have done wonders before you=
r
eyes: ye are my witnesses, said the Lord, that I am God.
"For your sake I have brought down the forces of the Babylonians. I am the=
Lord, your Holy One and Creator.
"I have made a way in the sea, and a path in the mighty waters. I am He th=
at
drowned and destroyed for ever the mighty enemies that have resisted you.
"Remember ye not the former things, neither consider the things of old.
"Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not kn=
ow
it? I will even make a way in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert.
"This people have I formed for myself; I have established them to shew for=
th
my praise, etc.
"I, even I, am He that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake,
and will not remember thy sins. Put in remembrance your ingratitude: see
thou, if thou mayest be justified. Thy first father hath sinned, and thy
teachers have transgressed against me."
Is. 44.: "I am the first, and I am the last, saith the Lord. Let him who
will equal himself to me, declare the order of things since I appointed th=
e
ancie
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This is reminiscent of the fake letters circulated by the Langley gang
in 1986. I haven't read all of what is written above, just as I never
read various fake letters that were circulated by the Langley gang in
the 1980s. None of it matters. The Kathryn Reynolds Show in 1986
showed us the way the wind was blowing. The final surrender of 1990
sealed our fate. There is an irresistible compulsion to repeat the
past, to return the earth to a state of survivalist emergency, which
is guaranteed by the avalanche of "animal tested" (=3Duntested) poisons
which will soon destroy the earth's life support system completely.
-Pete
"I Still Miss Someone"
http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1193285565/last-1193285565/I+Sti=
ll+Miss+Someone
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"ishtar.come@ntlworld.com"
1/24/2008 4:48:33 PM


IVIS Bulletin Nr 2, New Year 1988 (Part Three)
Meanwhile, Gill (Langley) was riding for a fall. Even as she was
propagandizing the need for vivisection and rejecting all allegations
that she was an infiltrator, the shining fortress of humaneness she
had built around herself came unstuck. A vegan, Mr Alfred Bunting of
Uxbridge, while investigating how come a Dr Christopher Langley had
ever managed to escalate into the directorship of the Vegan Society
of
Great Britain, made a startling discovery, concerning not only this
Christopher Langley, but also his wife, Gill: both Chris and Gill
were
trained vivisectors - and Christopher Langley was an employee of
Ciba-
Geigy to boot! This Swiss multinational had conducted a covert,
intense smear propaganda against Hans Ruesch's works in Switzerland.
This gave at last a logical explanation to Gill Langley's persistent
defamation of Hans Ruesch in the anti-vivisectionist press.
Following is an abstract of a letter Mr A Bunting addressed to Mark
Souster of the Sunday Mirror on May 10, 1987, explaining the Langley
case:
"Thank you for your article today, publicising the fiendish cruelty
of
Professor Colin Blakemore of Oxford University. But I am surprised to
see your mention that 'Dr Gill Langley' pontificated on "clinical
value", as though she were a physician. She isn't.
"'Dr Gill' had no medical training whatsoever. She is Mrs Gillian
Rose
Langley, nee Dymond, of 46 King's Road, Hitchin. She got her PhD for
experimenting on cockroaches. After getting her PhD she worked for
about a year at Nottingham University, experimenting on rabbits.
Though no expert on "clinical value", she certainly knows about
cruelty in laboratories. As an apparently lucrative sideline Mrs
Langley is the boss and sole paid employee of the Dr Hadwen (begging)
Trust for Humane Research. Its leaflets ask for money to be sent to
her home, though she is not the treasurer.
"Although ostensibly opposed to vivisection, Mrs Langley's writings
put in plugs for the alleged benefits of vivisection. And she never
mentions her husband's estimated =A335,000 per year Ciba-Geigy
bloodmoney. Ciba-Geigy is one of the largest multinational
vivisection-
based pharmaceutical manufacturers. Its nerve centre is the CIBA
FOUNDATION FOR THE PROMOTION OF INTERNATIONAL CO-OPERATION IN MEDICAL
AND CHEMICAL RESEARCH, 41 Portland Place, London W1. Senior
Physiologist there is Mr Christopher Kenneth Langley PhD, 'Dr Gill's'
husband. Like his wife he has no medical qualification. Without
revealing his full true name or his Ciba job, 'Dr Chris Langley'
became director of the formerly humanitarian Vegan Society Ltd. In
his
first 2 years as director the Society lost =A3 75,959."
But don't stop reading yet, folks. The Langley story, like Caesar's
wife, gets more exciting as the night grows older.
When the information unearthed and disseminated by Mr Bunting started
causing considerable ripples in vegan circles, the Langleys resorted
to a trick they must have learned from the confidential vade mecum of
the Swiss multinationals, revealed by the "Group of Berne", a
respectable, watchdog Swiss organisation made up of concerned
businessmen: to discredit Mr Bunting and undermine his credibility,
they started disseminating faked letters that Mr Bunting was supposed
to have written, counterfeiting his signature. This was a trick the
multinationals employed in Switzerland against us, too, at the time
of
the Franz-Weber-Initiative. Mr Bunting refused to be intimidated or
disconcerted, and saw to it that in October 1986 Christopher Langley
was served with a writ that said among other things:
"You falsely and maliciously wrote and published to various persons
including Society members defamatory matter concerning me including a
faked letter to 'Dear Glad' purporting to be written by me that you
pretended I had sent you; you falsely passed off the said faked
letters as being my writing."
But meanwhile his wife, Gill, had already broken down in a desperate
attempt to restore her damaged image in the eyes of the naive who had
not yet abandoned AA or cancelled any legacies to her private Hadwen
Trust in their wills. In an amazing circular, reeking with
sanctimoniousness and soggy from crocodile tears, entitled GILL
LANGLEY'S POSITION STATEMENT ON THE McCANN/RUESCH ACCUSATIONS, she
tried to justify her past as a vivisector with the following
confession:
"Tommy McCann accuses me of having been a vivisector. These are the
facts: At university as an undergraduate (1971-74) I took part in
physiology practical classes where decerebrate rabbits were used to
demonstrate known medical facts. I intensely disliked these
classes...
These experiments were not legally defined as vivisection and did not
appear in the annual statistics. They are standard practice for
physiology students...I spent nearly 4 years doing a PhD (1971-74) in
which I studied the nervous system of cockroaches. I dissected many
hundreds in research which I gradually came to feel was morally
unjustified. In 1977 I became an anti-vivisectionist, persuaded by
the
ethical arguments... In 1979 I could carry on no longer with work
which contradicted my principles..."
So it took this good lady, who already in 1971 "intensely disliked"
what she had been doing with decerebrate rabbits, all of 6 years of
uninterrupted laboratory activity to "become an antivivisectionist,"
and then it took her another two years of more of all that sadistic
idiocy to make her decide that she "could carry on no longer" with
that sort of work!
This document further confirms that surely a good number of cruel
experiments take place w