The DMV is so insidious. They are allowed to tax used property sales

The DMV is so insidious. They are allowed to tax used property sales

saylo1234@aol.com (LovingPerson)	2/24/2004 2:14:08 PM
Dear all: disclaimer(I wrote the following post after a very frustrating day spent at DMV. Some of the content in here must be taken with the understanding that I am fuming at this point.) Because of the DMV is such an evil entity, it tries to charge you sales tax on used cars. This is completely insane. No used items should be charged tax. I know even used guns bought at gun shops do not carry any sales tax. The DMV is just pure evil incarnate. After just waiting in line for two hours to get a simple title and temp tag at the DMV, I am very angry not only at the fees I paid, but at the attitude of these govt. apathetic workers. I would suggest everyone, in order to pay lower taxes, report prices much lower than the actual amount. You cannot fight the DMV head on. You will have to be as crafty as the DMV is. When I skirt an unjust law/policy, I become very proud of it. I am righting a wrong, and there is no other way to do it. Did you know that the DMV in CA brought in 5 billion dollars just in registration fees alone? That figure is a 10 year old figure. For 5 billion dollar what does DMV do for you? They only think of more ways to steal your money. I recommend everyone try to steal (except it isn't stealing when you take back what is originally yours) back what is rightfully theirs in the first place. I recommend everyone report low low sales prices. In order to make it less suspicious, make sure the seller writes two bills of sales. One sale stating that the car needs majore mechanical work. So, for example, if a car was bought for $5000, have the seller write a bill that states the car needs majore engine and exhaust work. If there is a line "seller provides no warranty," it would further look more legit. "Car is sold as is!" Sales price written on bill should about 1/10 the real price. This would save you ten-fold in sales tax. People. It is time we all start doing something to stem the thievery that is the DMV. I know no one here can really argue with me about this issue. If you do argue, I will simply call you a governement sympathizer. And you don't want to be called a govt sympathizer by fellow American, do you? No. You don't. So go forth and claim what is yours and let no government seize your $$$ or property without due process. Signed: Proud Citizen (law abiding citizen--except for unjust laws) of U.S.A.



"Paul"	2/24/2004 9:23:38 PM
"LovingPerson" <saylo1234@aol.com> wrote Because of the DMV is such an evil entity, it tries to charge you sales tax on used cars. This is completely insane. No used items should be charged tax. I know even used guns bought at gun shops do not carry any sales tax. The DMV is just pure evil incarnate. Talk to your state legislators. They make the laws, not the DMV. After just waiting in line for two hours to get a simple title and temp tag at the DMV, I am very angry not only at the fees I paid, but at the attitude of these govt. apathetic workers. I would suggest everyone, in order to pay lower taxes, report prices much lower than the actual amount. You cannot fight the DMV head on. You will have to be as crafty as the DMV is. Most times, the property tax and/or the sales tax is based on book vallue, not some measley amount that the buyer and seller put down on paper (unless it's close to the fair value). Sso saying "For $1 and other consideration..." doesn't make the sales price (and hence the value) really $1. When I skirt an unjust law/policy, I become very proud of it. I am righting a wrong, and there is no other way to do it. Have you ever tried talkking to your state representative? -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA taxman at negia.net



The Real Bev	2/24/2004 7:29:08 PM
Paul wrote: "LovingPerson" <saylo1234@aol.com> wrote Have you ever tried talkking to your state representative? If you can afford to do that, you don't need to post here. -- Cheers, Bev =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- If he had any brains, he'd take them out and play with them.



"Arthur L. Rubin"	2/25/2004 3:56:26 PM
The Real Bev wrote: Paul wrote: If you can afford to do that, you don't need to post here. If he knew HOW to call his legislator's office, he wouldn't NEED to post here. -- This account is subject to a persistent MS Blaster and SWEN attack. I think I've got the problem resolved, but, if you E-mail me and it bounces, a second try might work. However, please reply in newsgroup.



1040@compaq.net (Randall M.)	2/25/2004 11:56:12 AM
The Real Bev <bashley@myrealbox.com> wrote in message news:<403C1684.7825569D@myrealbox.com>... Paul wrote: If you can afford to do that, you don't need to post here. I have talked to my state rep numerous times and it only cost me my time and a few quarters to feed the meter.

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