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Re: Warning To Judges Who Believe They Can Cite Citizens For Contempt
Where did you get that erroneous idea? In the U.S., any person who is a party to a lawsuit or other legal proceeding before a court may be cited for contempt by that court. Furthermore, a witness who refuses to testify may be jailed for contempt un


Re: "Reasonable Person" and "Reasonable Doubt"
In message <KIydnU6ZVJ24FUndRVn-hg@comcast.com>, Chas <chasclementsSPOOF@comcast.net> writes >"Richard Miller" <richard@seasalter0.demon.co.uk> wrote >> "Real Crime". Programme on ITV. > >That's British? Yes. >I haven't seen it. You should.


Re: Of Cops and Courts, by Mumia Abu-Jamal
On 19 Jun 2004 05:14:53 -0700, talciere@yahoo.co.uk (Tim Alciere) ejaculated: >Of Cops and Courts, by Mumia Abu-Jamal The assistant district attorney who tried the case, Joseph McGill, points out, "This is not a situation where someone was arrest


Re: "Reasonable Person" and "Reasonable Doubt"
In article <10d7muu471vl05d@news.supernews.com>, informant says... > > >"Barstool Lawyer" <Barstool_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message >news:cb0jfu02370@drn.newsguy.com... >> In article <40d3583d.87410870@news-server.houston.rr.com>, Bob from Texas


Re: "Reasonable Person" and "Reasonable Doubt"
>From: spam@spam.com (Bob from Texas) >What I would like to know is whether opening statements tend to favor >the prosecution. > Only the ones made by the DAs. I don't believe that the opening statements made by defense counsels favor the pro


Re: "Reasonable Person" and "Reasonable Doubt"
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 13:21:03 -0700, Z <z@no.spam> wrote: >> A study was conducted in the US which determined that 80% of jurors on >> average had made up their mind right after opening arguments. For them >> jury deliberations were largely a waste of


Re: "Reasonable Person" and "Reasonable Doubt"
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 12:38:35 -0600, "Chas" <chasclementsSPOOF@comcast.net> wrote: >> The evidence looked pretty convincing to me. On what basis do *you* >> claim that Patsy wrote the ransom note? >Working for the lawyer/handwriting analyst that ma


Re: "Reasonable Person" and "Reasonable Doubt"
In message <-4SdnXzti8tRqUndRVn-sw@comcast.com>, Chas <chasclementsSPOOF@comcast.net> writes >"Richard Miller" <richard@seasalter0.demon.co.uk> wrote >> The Boulder, Colorado police just decided that JonBenet Ramsay's parents >> were guilty of her ki


Re: "Reasonable Person" and "Reasonable Doubt"
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 19:17:45 +0100, Richard Miller <richard@seasalter0.demon.co.uk> wrote: >Programme on ITV. LOL Is that the same ITV that ran the picture of the poor wretched POW in Bosnia? Oops, he was on the outside looking in? Picky,


Re: "Reasonable Person" and "Reasonable Doubt"
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 08:01:41 +0100, Richard Miller <richard@seasalter0.demon.co.uk> wrote: >The Boulder, Colorado police just decided that JonBenet Ramsay's parents >were guilty of her killing. It now appears that there was conclusive >proof that


Re: Cops The Same All Over The World
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 09:54:48 -0600, Bob <boby23456@hotmail.com> wrote: >> There are people who wear the uniform who are individuals first, cops >> second. They come to the aid of citizens not because they are cops but >> because they are decent human


Re: Cops The Same All Over The World
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 09:47:45 -0600, Bob <boby23456@hotmail.com> wrote: >Some places are worse than other places, but I'd bet that even in Texas >the times when you are allowed to defend yourself are very limited. There are specific conditions. And


Re: "Reasonable Person" and "Reasonable Doubt"
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 21:09:38 GMT, spam@spam.com (Bob from Texas) wrote: >Can any one offer the legal meaning of the so-called "Reasonable >Person". How about "Reasonable Doubt". > >I am debating my wife about these concepts (we watch too many >cou


Re: Cops The Same All Over The World
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 12:13:39 +0100, Paul Robson <autismuk@autismuk.freeserve.muralichucks.co.uk> wrote: >but the good ones do >nothing about the dishonest ones, which I believe is collusion. I second that. Please do not trim NGs. You cut out pe


Re: Cops The Same All Over The World
On 19 Jun 2004 00:18:03 -0700, talciere@yahoo.co.uk (Tim Alciere) wrote: >> An associate was in Moscow on business and someone snatched his laptop >> computer from under his arm and ran off. He reported it to the police >> and was told that if he ga


Re: Cops The Same All Over The World
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 08:02:37 -0600, Bob <boby23456@hotmail.com> wrote: >The gun thugs offered in their defense that they >have NO OBLIGATION to protect anyone, and in fact their job is to arrest >criminals, not to protect citizens. That's beca


Re: Cops The Same All Over The World
On 18 Jun 2004 22:12:26 -0700, djken@optusnet.com.au (Linda) wrote: >The world would be a terrible place without police. Please back that claim with valid reasoning. >Police are sourced >from the general population and therefore there will alway


Re: "Reasonable Person" and "Reasonable Doubt"
"Bob from Texas" <spam@spam.com> wrote > That would seem to imply you have first-hand information. Third-hand; I know the people who know the Ramseys. > >Judith Phillips, the family's photographer, is another friend of mine- in > >terms of the 'fl


Re: "Reasonable Person" and "Reasonable Doubt"
On 18 Jun 2004 22:38:06 -0700, Barstool Lawyer <Barstool_member@newsguy.com> wrote: >>There is always something to doubt in a trial, so the jurors must >>always acquit the defendant, because there is no way to declare that >>to be "reasonable" doubt


Re: Warning To Judges Who Believe They Can Cite Citizens For Contempt
On 19 Jun 2004 00:27:21 -0700, talciere@yahoo.co.uk (Tim Alciere) wrote: >A citizen is a LAYMAN and must be appointed an attorney to advise him >before you may cite him for contempt. If a judge does not follow the >law he looses his judicial immunit


Re: "Reasonable Person" and "Reasonable Doubt"
Bob from Texas wrote: > A study was conducted in the US which determined that 80% of jurors on > average had made up their mind right after opening arguments. For them > jury deliberations were largely a waste of time. That can mean a lot of things


Re: "Reasonable Person" and "Reasonable Doubt"
"Richard Miller" <richard@seasalter0.demon.co.uk> wrote > "Real Crime". Programme on ITV. That's British? I haven't seen it. > The evidence looked pretty convincing to me. On what basis do *you* > claim that Patsy wrote the ransom note? Workin


Re: Cops The Same All Over The World
Linda wrote: > Hi Bob, > As the wife of a policeman, I can tell you that the statistics you are > quoting are incorrect. You seem to be anti police because of their > stance on domestic violence. Please remember that they "uphold" the > law, they d


Re: Cops The Same All Over The World
On 18 Jun 2004 14:51:34 -0700, djken@optusnet.com.au (Linda) wrote: >Bob <boby23456@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<40D2FCDA.1020608@hotmail.com>... >> Krack Whore wrote: >> > Cops are alright. They stifle more serious crimes without laying >> >


Re: Does the Queen control the USA
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 16:30:45 -0400, <hinojo_b@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> > > >> > >There are three powers exclusive to the Queen. Name at least one. >> > > >From: http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Royal%20Prerogative > >Most powers execised


Re: Cops The Same All Over The World
--------------030702080305060100090108 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob wrote: > Tim Alciere wrote: > >> Friday, June 18, 2004. Page 3. >> Policeman Charged in Fatal Metro Beati


Re: Cops The Same All Over The World
--------------080103060801010705060609 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger J. P. Jones wrote: > In message <fb8d65d.0406180005.56f6673d@posting.google.com>, Tim > Alciere <talcier


Re: Cops The Same All Over The World
Bob from Texas wrote: > There are people who wear the uniform who are individuals first, cops > second. They come to the aid of citizens not because they are cops but > because they are decent human beings. I knew a man like that once. He had qui


Re: Cops The Same All Over The World
Bob from Texas wrote: > On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 08:02:37 -0600, Bob <boby23456@hotmail.com> wrote: > >>The gun thugs offered in their defense that they >>have NO OBLIGATION to protect anyone, and in fact their job is to arrest >>criminals, not to prot


Re: "Reasonable Person" and "Reasonable Doubt"
"Richard Miller" <richard@seasalter0.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:E4ENz8DVT+0AFwZr@seasalter0.demon.co.uk... > In message <cb0clj02sq8@news1.newsguy.com>, Richard <Anonymous@127.001> > writes > >Here in the states, the prosecutor MUST prove gu


Re: Cops The Same All Over The World
a poor misguided soul wrote: > > > Roger J. P. Jones wrote: > >> In message <fb8d65d.0406180005.56f6673d@posting.google.com>, Tim >> Alciere <talciere@yahoo.co.uk> writes >> >>> Friday, June 18, 2004. Page 3. >>> >>> Policeman Charged in Fat


Re: Cops The Same All Over The World
Linda wrote: > .> > >>>Hi Bob, >>>As the wife of a policeman, I can tell you that the statistics you are >>>quoting are incorrect. >> >>Cow#@($. You're mired down in gun thug propaganda. >> >> >> > You seem to be anti police because of their


Re: "Reasonable Person" and "Reasonable Doubt"
In message <40D3B0DB.4070300@starmail.com>, Paul Gravano <BadaBing@starmail.com> writes >Seems to me that he who has the most money wins. If you can't do it >with the mouthpiece alone, you reach out. If not to a judge, then to a >juror. One thing


Re: "Reasonable Person" and "Reasonable Doubt"
In message <cb0clj02sq8@news1.newsguy.com>, Richard <Anonymous@127.001> writes >Here in the states, the prosecutor MUST prove guilt. Unlike in the UK >where "Guilty until proven innocent" rules, if the prosecutor fails to >prove his case, there is


Re: "Reasonable Person" and "Reasonable Doubt"
"Richard Miller" <richard@seasalter0.demon.co.uk> wrote > The Boulder, Colorado police just decided that JonBenet Ramsay's parents > were guilty of her killing. It now appears that there was conclusive > proof that two local paedophiles were guilty, ye


Re: "Reasonable Person" and "Reasonable Doubt"
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 04:33:56 GMT, spam@spam.com (Bob from Texas) wrote: >On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 22:42:20 -0500, "Richard" <Anonymous@127.001> >wrote: > >>Unlike in the UK where "Guilty until proven innocent" rules, > >Sorry but Britain still pretend


Of Cops and Courts, by Mumia Abu-Jamal
Of Cops and Courts, by Mumia Abu-Jamal Several of the cops convicted in connection with the vicious, brutal, terrorist assault of Abner Louima in a Brooklyn police precinct, have been graciously granted their freedom by a U.S. appeals court r


Re: "Reasonable Person" and "Reasonable Doubt"
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 22:42:20 -0500, "Richard" <Anonymous@127.001> wrote: >Unlike in the UK where "Guilty until proven innocent" rules, Sorry but Britain still pretends to be under Common Law. You are thinking of Civil Law which is practiced in Eur


Re: "Reasonable Person" and "Reasonable Doubt"
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 22:31:02 -0500, "Richard" <Anonymous@127.001> wrote: >The prosecutor has the burden of removing ALL doubt. Not all doubt - only reasonable doubt. -- Map Of The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy: http://www.freewebs.com/vrwc/


Re: "Reasonable Person" and "Reasonable Doubt"
"Barstool Lawyer" <Barstool_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:cb0jfu02370@drn.newsguy.com... > In article <40d3583d.87410870@news-server.houston.rr.com>, Bob from Texas > says... > > > > > >There is always something to doubt in a trial, so


Re: "Reasonable Person" and "Reasonable Doubt"
On 18 Jun 2004 19:57:06 -0700, cj.green@worldnet.att.net (Christopher Green) wrote: >I don't think that quite captures the notion of "reasonable doubt". A >better description I've heard is that it is the sort of doubt that >would give the proverbial


Re: "Reasonable Person" and "Reasonable Doubt"
Seems to me that he who has the most money wins. If you can't do it with the mouthpiece alone, you reach out. If not to a judge, then to a juror. One thing is for sure though, there is ALWAYS someone with their hand out. The legal system is a sha


Re: Cops The Same All Over The World
Makes sense, some of the best crooks I know carry badges. Bob from Texas wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 16:25:28 -0600, Bob <boby23456@hotmail.com> wrote: > > >>"Protection" is one of the oldest forms of organized crime. > > > Cops were origin


Re: Cops The Same All Over The World
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 16:25:28 -0600, Bob <boby23456@hotmail.com> wrote: >"Protection" is one of the oldest forms of organized crime. Cops were originally recruited from the ranks of criminals. The idea was who would know more about crime. --


Re: Cops The Same All Over The World
On 18 Jun 2004 14:51:34 -0700, djken@optusnet.com.au (Linda) wrote: >He was slashing himself at the time my >husband was trying to use Capsicum spray to subdue him. Your cop husband took on an armed drug addict with pepper spray? Sorry, lady, bu


Re: "Reasonable Person" and "Reasonable Doubt"
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 22:28:18 +0100, Fenris Wolf <Fenris@reality8.demon.co.uk> wrote: >For "reasonable person" insert the trial judge. >For "reasonable doubt" insert the politics of the trial judge. You are referring to the British system of inju


Re: Cop fakes DUI?
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 18:15:24 -0700, Mike Z. Helm <mhelm@not.known> wrote: Was there supposed to be a reply somewhere in this post? >On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 15:36:01 GMT, spam@spam.com (Bob) > >>On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 18:17:04 -0700, Mike Z. Helm <mhelm


Re: "Reasonable Person" and "Reasonable Doubt"
"Barstool Lawyer" <Barstool_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:cb0jfu02370@drn.newsguy.com... > In article <40d3583d.87410870@news-server.houston.rr.com>, Bob from Texas > says... > > > > > >There is always something to doubt in a trial, so


Re: MAN GETS CUSTODY, while stupid mother promotes it's rage andviolence
In article <OIjAc.48523$Ds.37500@clgrps12>, Harry Ballsac. <Harry Ballsac.@the_national_socilaist_news_service.NDPP.gob> wrote: >"Seth Breidbart" <sethb@panix.com> wrote in message >news:carc8v$pd7$1@panix5.panix.com... > >> The issue is you claimed


Warning To Judges Who Believe They Can Cite Citizens For Contempt
A citizen is a LAYMAN and must be appointed an attorney to advise him before you may cite him for contempt. If a judge does not follow the law he looses his judicial immunity and may be sued for violation of civil rights.