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OLLECTIVE MENTAL ILLNESS -------- When I first discovered Robin Norwood's books ("Women Who Love Too Much") and similar writings about fifteen years ago, codependency was a big 'buzz word.' The emphaisis was on demonising anyone who saw a relationship with another person or persons as the major source of their happiness. The aim of 'therapy' was to become emotionally self sufficient. Is this realistic? Can anyone be happy without human love and its physical expressions and consummation? The answer appears to be yes, at least later in life. But this is to miss the point. What is a sex addict? Is some degree of addiction to love and affection and its physical expressions - at least in the early phases of our lives - is this a disease to be cured, or is it an indication of emotional health and honesty? Given that we all were born into an intense sexual relationship with our mothers, which leaves permanent IMPRINTS on our brains, where is the sense in rationing and demonising physical expressions of love? (As explained elsewhere, it "makes sense" only to warmongers, and that was the whole purpose of our love-rationing societal arrangements: to fill us with repressed rage to be discharged on the battlefields of a recurring series of post-apocalyptic survivalist emergencies. But it never had to be, there was always a sane alternative, as explained in "The Law of the Sea," but our ancestors were too immature to go down that path.) My series of healing writings of the past five years can be seen as a rebellion against the prevailing ethos in the therapy industry, which essentially trains its clients to adjust to an insane civilisation and to develop coping mechanisms to ease the pain of living in an insane civilisation, but never advocates moving in the direction of societal healing which will end our collective insanity. To tolerate societal arrangements which RATION LOVE, and to affirm that there is no other way people can ever live their lives, is a clear sign of collective insanity. Instead of offering coping strategies, I have been advocating that we make the collective decision to regain our sanity by moving toward the abolition of all our insane, love-rationing societal arrangements as soon as practicable. In this context you all would do well to re-examine the paragraphs in "I Still Miss Someone" titled 'The Incest Taboo,' 'The Oedipus Irrelevancy,' 'What is Marriage,' 'The Anus Revisited,' and similar. Briefly, one important point I raised is the simple practicality of life that we are unable to see our anuses, and therefore we can never be sure that our anuses are clean. So all mothers are wrong to stop toileting their infants. Instead, the infant should be allowed to realise his natural and unavoidable urge to toilet the mother, and friends and family members should toilet one another by agreement throughout our lives. HOW ELSE CAN YOU EVER KNOW THAT YOUR ARSEHOLE IS CLEAN, YOU FILTHY SONS OF BITCHES? ----------------------------------------------- Such is the severity of your collective mental illness, that the only response you are capable of giving to this is to say I am 'weird' or 'looney.' Stop being afraid. ----------------------------------------------- You speak of 'teaching modesty,' teaching social norms to infants. But teaching modesty = mental illness and social norms = mental illness. To teach every baby that his natural and unavoidable urge to return his mother's caresses is evil, and to teach every baby that all human beings are automatically and inherently defective on account of being attached to body parts which are so irredeemably evil that they must be concealed and never spoken of unless absolutely unavoidable.... (and bizarrely, the parts of our bodies that are targeted for being thought of as defective and shameful are the most beautiful and most delightful parts of our bodies!) .....such practices are hideously cruel acts of child abuse performed by every mother in the world, and indicate a very severe collective mental illness afflicting all human beings. ----------------------------------------------- "BUT I AM SPIRITUALLY ADVANCED !!!!!!!" One of the ugliest manifestations of human insanity is the concept of 'spiritual progress' - which is actually a state of collective self delusion, typified by the declaration that you have 'compassion for all living beings.' In reality the 'spiritually advanced' crowd have NO COMPASSION FOR HUMAN INFANTS and have NO WISH TO END CHILD ABUSE, meaning the child abuse built into the prevailing survivalist-mode mother-infant relationship. Thus, what our insane civilisation terms "spiritual progress" is actually an even more severe state of mental illness, a state of promoting child abuse and having NO COMPASSION FOR ANYONE. ----------------------------------------------- I see no prospect of happiness for myself as long as I have to live in a civilisation where love is rationed, in other words a civilisation where everybody is very severely mentally ill. Only a species afflicted by a very severe collective mental illness would submit to societal arrangements which ration love and institutionalise child abuse in the mother-infant relationship. So there is no cure and no 'therapy' for what is bothering me, not under present conditions. The only way you can make me happy is by saying you want us all to regain our collective sanity by making a start at moving toward eventual aboliton of our insane love-rationing societal arrangements. By publishing what I have published, I have affirmed my sanity. This is what Wilhelm Reich advised in 'LISTEN, LITTLE MAN !' You can do the same. Sanity is already in you. Nobody can give it to you. Look for sanity inside yourself, as I have done. "Therapy" - meaning coping stragegies to help us to endure the pain of living in an insane civilisation - is a dishonest and immoral approach to life, a betrayal of your fellow human beings, and an abandonment of your grandchildren and all future generations of human infants. Cease your compromising, cease your adjusting to what is clearly an insane civilisation operated by a human species suffering from very severe collective mental illness. At the very least, declare publicly that you are in favour of eventual abolition of our love-rationing, pain-generating societal arrangements, admittedly not now, not next year, but whenever we find the collective will to do so, in other words, when we have had enough of the pain which we automatically inflict on ourselves via our pain- generating societal arrangements. See the "Declaration for Healing," issued April 2006. Shall we agree on a revised draft of that declaration, to be publicly endorsed on the web by all those human beings who are beginning to regain their sanity and who see through the idiocy of the compromises offered by the therapy industry and the warmongers? ----------------------------------------------- -Pete "I Stil Miss Someone" http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1193285565/last-1193285565/I%20Still%20Miss%20Someone "Listen, Little Man !" http://marukuwato.multiply.com/journal/item/62 "The Law of the Sea" http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1136997403/last-1136997403/THE+LAW+OF+THE+SEA "Declaration for Healing" http://www.network54.com/Foru
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COLLECTIVE MENTAL ILLNESS -------- When I first discovered Robin Norwood's books ("Women Who Love Too Much") and similar writings about fifteen years ago, codependency was a big 'buzz word.' The emphaisis was on demonising anyone who saw a relationship with another person or persons as the major source of their happiness. The aim of 'therapy' was to become emotionally self sufficient. Is this realistic?
Let's look at it from a different viewpoint. Nowadays, those who once formed unhealthy co-dependent relationships with other people (be they friends or relatives or lovers) will often instead form co-dependent relationships with strangers in usenet or in web-based chatrooms. It would probably be healthier and more beneficial if, instead of obsessing about their own anuses in usenet, they could seek help from a competent therapist. Or in the interim, from their local branch of the Samaritans.
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On 17 Apr, 13:25, "The Todal" <deadmail...@beeb.net> wrote:
Let's look at it from a different viewpoint. =A0Nowadays, those who once formed unhealthy co-dependent relationships with other people (be they friends or relatives or lovers) will often instead form co-dependent relationships with strangers in usenet or in web-based chatrooms. It would probably be healthier and more beneficial if, instead of obsessin=
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about their own anuses in usenet, they could seek help from a competent therapist. Or in the interim, from their local branch of the Samaritans.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D I wasn't talking to you. "These words are sent out across the globe without adolescent illusions about their reception. If some of them shall come to rest beside a friend or two, and remind her of her divine origin and destiny, it will surely be enough." (Inspired by Dr Paul Brunton.)
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On 17 Apr, 13:25, "The Todal" <deadmail...@beeb.net> wrote:
Let's look at it from a different viewpoint. Nowadays, those who once formed unhealthy co-dependent relationships with other people (be they friends or relatives or lovers) will often instead form co-dependent relationships with strangers in usenet or in web-based chatrooms. It would probably be healthier and more beneficial if, instead of obsessing about their own anuses in usenet, they could seek help from a competent therapist. Or in the interim, from their local branch of the Samaritans.
I wasn't talking to you.
Now don't be silly. You were talking to everyone & anyone who cares to drop by & read & respond to your missives.
"These words are sent out across the globe without adolescent illusions about their reception. If some of them shall come to rest beside a friend or two, and remind her of her divine origin and
destiny, it will surely be enough."
(Inspired by Dr Paul Brunton.)
I suspect you may have been more greatly influenced by Dr. Tony Holland. -- Joe Lee
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On Apr 18, 1:03=A0pm, "Joe Lee" <invalid@noaddress> wrote:
I suspect you may have been more greatly influenced by Dr. Tony Holland.
Who in turn was taught by Prof. Joe Lee
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On 18 Apr, 04:03, "Joe Lee" <invalid@noaddress> wrote:
"Ishtar" <ishtar.c...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message I suspect you may have been more greatly influenced by Dr. Tony Holland. Joe Lee
================================================= We're in deep #@($, all of us. We're up to our necks in our own #@($. And we've got used to the stench of our own #@($, so we don't smell it any more. We've been mentally ill for eleven thousand years, and so mental illness is our normality. I've broken the silence for you. The ball is in your court now. And remember, the ruling group wants societal healing perhaps even more than I do, because to be a member or associate or dupe or slave of the ruling group would indicate that such a person has suffered greatly at the hands of our mentally ill survivalist-mode civilisation.
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On 18 Apr, 04:03, "Joe Lee" <invalid@noaddress> wrote:
I suspect you may have been more greatly influenced by Dr. Tony Holland. Joe Lee
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Very few people will address the actual content of what I've written, meaning the simple analysis of the human condition and the long-term healing formula toward which that analysis points. Although these are not immediately obvious, they become obvious and easy to understand when explained. Our societal arrangements automatically and inevitably generate pain. If you remain silent or play the clown when I ask you to declare yourselves in favour of abolishing our sick, survivalist-mode, pain- generating societal arrangements as soon as feasible, then clearly you are mentally ill. Furthermore, you have no parenting impulse, because you are abandoning your children, your grandchildren and all your descendants to societal arrangements which will continue automatically to cause pain in every generation until they are abolished. To put it bluntly and directly, the three cornerstones of human insanity are: 1. The mother-infant relationship in it's present form; 2. The incest taboo; 3. The ban on loving more than one. We have been insane for eleven thousand years, and so insanity is our normality and we assume we are sane. Yet anyone who has ever read a newspaper or a history book must be able to see that they were reading about a mentally ill species, humanity. Our obvious insanity screams out at the reader from the pages of all newspapers and history books. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- The two main obstacles to abolishing our insane survivalist-mode societal arrangements are: (A) All living organisms have a powerful urge to repeat indefinitely any behaviour patterns that have become associated in their brains and archetypes with *physical survival* ; (B) If one regional group regains its sanity ahead of the rest of the human family, they will not be able to fight defensive wars effectively, and so they will be in danger of going the same way as the Cathars. That is why I said the first step can only be to "come out" one by one by declaring ourselves publicly to be in favour of abolishing our pain- generating survivalist-mode societal arrangements as soon as it becomes feasible on a global scale. A journey begins with the first step. Take that first step, and see what happens next. --------------------------------- -Pete "I Still Miss Someone" http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1193285565/last-119328556... "Listen, Little Man !" http://marukuwato.multiply.com/journal/item/62 "The Law of the Sea" http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1136997403/last-113699740... "Declaration for Healing" http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1144642466/last-114464246... ----------------------------------------------- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =AD =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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WHILE MY GUITAR GENTLY WEEPS --------------- I look at you all see the love there that's sleeping While my guitar gently weeps I look at the Ball and I see it needs sweeping Still my guitar gently weeps I don't know why nobody told you How to unfold your love I don't know how someone controlled you They bought and sold you I look at the world and I notice it's turning While my guitar gently weeps With every mistake we must surely be learning Still my guitar gently weeps I don't know how you were diverted You were perverted too I don't know how you were inverted No one alerted you I look at you all see the love there that's sleeping While my guitar gently weeps I look at you all......... Still my guitar gently weeps --------------------- Words and Music by George Harrison --------------------- --------------------- George was more cerebral and more serious than the other three Beatles. That song is about COLLECTIVE MENTAL ILLNESS. The last verse is generally overlooked: ---------------------- "I don't know how you were diverted You were perverted too I don't know how you were inverted No one alerted you." ----------------------- "Inverted" refers to the INVERTED MORALITY and INVERTED INTELLECTUAL FUNTIONING that were adopted eleven thousand years ago when we first went into the present era of *survivalist mode* . In other words, COLLECTIVE MENTAL ILLNESS. "No one alerted you..." Is it any wonder that no one "alerts" people to their collective mental illness? I tried for five years. It's not been a pleasant experience. In a mentally ill civilisation, anyone who advocates healing - meaning a return to natural functioning / to our ancient purity and decency of eleven thousand years ago - will be shunned and ridiculed. --------------------------------- -Pete "I Still Miss Someone" http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1193285565/last-119328556... "Listen, Little Man !" http://marukuwato.multiply.com/journal/item/62 "The Law of the Sea" http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1136997403/last-113699740... "Declaration for Healing" http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1144642466/last-114464246... ----------------------------------------------- ===========================================================================
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On 23 Apr, 16:04, Ishtar <ishtar.c...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
WHILE MY GUITAR GENTLY WEEPS --------------- I look at you all see the love there that's sleeping While my guitar gently weeps I look at the Ball and I see it needs sweeping
I could have sworn it was George's floor , rather than balls, which needed sweeping. Maybe that's your problem?
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On 23 Apr, 15:21, parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
On 23 Apr, 16:04, Ishtar <ishtar.c...@ntlworld.com> wrote: I could have sworn it was George's floor , rather than balls, which needed sweeping. Maybe that's your problem?
============================================= I haven't listened to the recording for a while, and don't have a copy to hand right now. It seems to me that the word 'Ball' is the original wording, because it rhymes with 'all' in the first line, and also because 'Ball,' which obviously means globe or the earth, fits with the overall message of the song, which is *societal healing* , whereas 'floor' does not. It seems to me that someone who was reproducing the lyrics for a book or website could not comprehend the meaning and significance of the word "Ball" in the second line, and substituted 'floor,' which is inconsistent with the overall flow of the meaning and message of that song. What connection does sweeping a floor have with the rest of those lyrics? ------- Apart from that, your comment is what we've come to expect - ignoring the healing message and focusing on some triviality in the detail. "Always the non-essential, never the essential," as Wilhelm Reich lamented in "Listen, Little Man!"
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I look at the Ball and I see it needs sweeping." --------------------------------------- "Oh Ishtar come, to end our pain And then we'll learn to love again..." --------------------------------------- "Behold, I make all things new." ---------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- Periodically the earth is swept clean and we have the opportunity to start again on a blank page. Tragiclly, we've always just gone and written the some old survivalist- mode script all over again. What about next time? ---------------------------------------- COPY OF RECENT EMAIL: The agenda should be healing, not sniping at Immanuel Velikovsky. The content of "Mass Scotoma Rides Again" and similar evidence are sufficent to show that human history has been interspersed with catastrophes of such unspeakable and unthinkable horror as to cause us to seek refuge in collective amnesia. 'Nitpicking' about the detail of Velikovsky's "Worlds In Collision" is not helpful. Mr Ellenberger is not a healer but a spoiler who concentrates on discrediting "Worlds In Collision" with plausible sounding verbiage, which the reader can neither prove nor disprove, without unrealistic long-term commitment of time and energy, while Mr Ellenberger offers only vague and oblique comments on "Earth In Upheaval" and "Mankind in Amnesia." REPEAT: The content of "Mass Scotoma Rides Again" and similar evidence are sufficent to show that human history has been interspersed with catastrophes of such unspeakable and unthinkable horror as to cause us to seek refuge in collective amnesia It's not about Velikovsky, it's about healing, at a unique time in the current cycle of civilisation, when unique healing opportunities may present themselves in the near future. Healing is remembering. Remembering infancy - the infancy of the person AND the infancy of the tribe. It seems some people can face the infancy of the tribe, but the infancy of you, the person, is too awful to allow into consciousness. But therein lies healing, the only healing. What I find difficult to understand is that you haven't yet had enough pain, and that you don't want to end our common pain, when the only route out of our pain has been pointed out to you. I want no contact with other people now, not after the performance of the past five years. All we can hope for is that some people are thinking the right thoughts in the privacy of their own minds, and that some may keep their wits about them in the immediate aftermath of the coming collapse, when the fate of humanity for the next several thousand years will be determined by the behaviour of the survivors of the coming collapse. ========================================== ========================================== ========================================== MASS SCOTOMA RIDES AGAIN ==== In the Daily Mail, London, 11 July 2007, pages 26 - 27, we have the latest exercise in mass scotoma to conceal the fact that the surface of the earth testifies to recurring instability in the orbits of the planets. The headline screams: "A 10,000 YEAR OLD BABY - Mummified Mammoth is the most perfect ever discovered. .....The female calf was discovered in the frozen soils of north-west Siberia......" Further down, the Mail's "environmental editor" declares: "In order for a mammoth's soft tissue to survive, it has to be buried quickly in mud, silt or moving soil which quickly freezes." ---------------------- And that's all. The awkward questions thrown up by the previous sentence are ignored and bypassed to spare the readers' blushes. Mass Scotoma Rides Again. ---------------------- Mammoths, close relatives of elephants, lived only in the tropics and fed on the lush tropical zone vegetation without which they cannot survive. Tens of thousands of carcasses and bones of mammoths have been unearthed in Alaska and Siberia. As the Daily Mail man said, they were preserved only because they were SUDDENLY frozen. This is so difficult for most people to grasp that it bears repeating: THEY WERE PRESERVED ONLY BECAUSE THEY WERE *SUDDENLY* FROZEN. In other words, the tropical climate, in which those mammoths lived, meaning the tropical climate of Siberia a few thousand years ago, SUDDENLY - IN THE SPACE OF A FEW HOURS - CHANGED TO A POLAR CLIMATE. Otherwise these mummified mammoths could not be here today. So how did that happen? How did Siberia change its climate and complexion from torrid tropical prairies to frozen polar ice in the space of a few hours? No comment from the Daily Mail man. Just duck and dodge any awkward questions and move on. The customer is always right, and Daily Mail readers do not want any inconvenient truths to make them choke on their cheese and onion bagels....... The only way to explain those myriad frozen mammoths which continue to crop up in Siberia is by acknowledging the instability in the orbits of the planets. Only the presence of Ishtar close to the earth could have caused the earth's polar axis to shift suddenly, transporting Siberia from the tropics to the polar zone to be frozen over within a few hours. (I use the word Ishtar as a composite name to indicate the series of 'rogue planets' which pass close to the earth at irregular intervals, destroying our civilisations, modifying our religions and driving us successively deeper into survivalist mode.) Also, only some of the mammoths buried in Siberia would be about 10,000 years old (explosion of Saturn). The mass burials of animals came in successive waves during the recurring bouts of instability in the orbits of the planets, so that most of those mummified mammoths we are repeatedly digging up in Siberia would be only 3,400 years old (first modern visitation of Ishtar, coinciding with the biblical plagues in Egypt and the emptying of the red sea as a result of the gravitational / tidal anomaly produced by the proximity of Ishtar, which was a global phenomenon, but most people imagine it was confined to the Middle East - because the Hebrews had the best scribes). =============================================== As indicated in a previous post, the changes in the calendar 2,700 years ago are the conclusive proof of instability in the orbits of the planets. If you let yourself think, the presence of mummified mammoths in Siberia and elsewhere is equally conclusive, because - as the Daily Mail man said: "they were preserved only because they were SUDDENLY frozen," --- and there is only ONE way that tropical zone animals, some with fresh tropical grasses in their mouths and in their stomachs undigested, showing they were grazing on tropical prairies when 'suddenly frozen,' could meet such an end. And there is only one possible cause for the recurring poleshifts, and that is the presence of a full-sized planet very close to the earth. Honest geologists date these mummified mammals as recent, then lapse back into the mass scotoma. The only ultimate and comprehensive healing formula must involve confronting our true history, as well as the other Forbidden Subjects. Without facing the Forbidden Subjects, we'll just continue to go around in circles indefinitely. That involves us all in a lot of pain. After eleven thousand years, have you not had enough pain yet?
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========================= JOY PALMER'S TRAGEDY ========================= http://www.dlrm.org/joy.htm It is useful to evaluate Joy Palmer's life realistically. Was she a saint? I say people like Joy Palmer are a menace to society, because people like Joy Palmer promote stagnation and oppose healing. The Joy Palmers of this world prevent societal healing by advising people to stay in the never-never land of glorious campaigning to put pressure on our politicians to pass a law banning this and that, in pursuit of a great breakthrough which will always remain forever *just around the corner* - like the glorious quest for a cure for cancer, when we always knew that hygiene is the cure for cancer. "It is better to travel hopefully than to arrive." But even if you "arrive" at your destination in terms of getting a law passed, no healing takes place. Recently we had celebrations for the anniversary of the "abolition" of slavery, in a world where there are now many more slaves than prior to the alleged "abolition" of slavery. We have the farce of "child protection legislation" which completely ignores the child abuse that is institutionalised in the survivalist- mode mother-infant relationship designed to keep us all on a war footing. Joy Palmer was a living lie. She chose stagnation and promoted stagnation. Her life is all the more tragic because she often sacrificed herself, often used her own money to fund her altruistic campaigns, and I think she even lost her home in Ireland in 1986 as a result of using her own money to fund her altruistic campaigns, which seemed glorious to you, but I eventually came to see her behaviour as an obstacle to genuine healing. ---------------------------------------------- You don't remember your infancy. That is the key to everything. Some people do know what is going on in this civilisation. Remember the words of Bernardo Bertolucci: "Children are tortured until they tell their first lie." We live in a civilisation where we are unable to remember our infancy because what every mother in the world is doing to her babies is so traumatic and so terrifying that we have to take refuge from it in amnesia. What our mothers did to us is simply too unbearable to allow into consciousness. So that is the starting point for all healing:- recover the authentic memories of your infancy. Then publicly declare your support for the long-term aim of abolishing the survivalist-mode mother-infant relationship and our other pain-generating societal arrangements. Anything else just leads us around in circles, as the Joy Palmer story testifies. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joy Palmer's life fills me with sadness. She was a 'repairwoman.' I am a 'repairman.' When people experience extreme dysfunction in their family of origin, they respond in different ways. They may go the route of addiction, suicide, criminality..... or... they may become a 'repairman,' trying to repair the whole world just as the child from the past wanted so desperately to repair his insane family. I know I am a 'repairman,' and I say it makes me a useful person. It certainly is not a sickness to be 'cured,' although people such as Liz Jaymal would say it is just that. Joy Palmer's tragedy is that she chose to stagnate at a very elementary level of awareness of the diagnosis of our collective mental illness. For that reason, I say Joy Palmer did harm and not good. It has to be all or nothing. There is no other healing formula or 'repairman job' that is going to succeed, as is demonstrated by the fake "abolition" of slavery and our fake "child protection legislation." On that basis, the only job worth doing (apart from maintaining essential services) is to educate people in the true nature of our predicament and to urge people to recover the memories of infancy, so as to understand that every mother in the world is a child abuser and that all human beings without any exception anywhere are very severely mentally ill. If you do anything else (apart from maintaining essential services), then you are a menace to society, just as Joy Palmer was a menace to society. -Pete "I Still Miss Someone" http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1193285565/last-1193285565/I%20Still%20Miss%20Someone "Listen, Little Man!" http://marukuwato.multiply.com/journal/item/62 =================================================
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On 23 Apr, 21:47, Ishtar <ishtar.c...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
On 23 Apr, 15:21, parri...@yahoo.com wrote: WHILE MY GUITAR GENTLY WEEPS --------------- I look at you all see the love there that's sleeping While my guitar gently weeps I look at the Ball and I see it needs sweeping ============================================= I haven't listened to the recording for a while, and don't have a copy to hand right now. It seems to me that the word 'Ball' is the original wording, because it rhymes with 'all' in the first line, and also because 'Ball,' which obviously means globe or the earth, fits with the overall message of the song, which is *societal healing* , whereas 'floor' does not. It seems to me that someone who was reproducing the lyrics for a book or website could not comprehend the meaning and significance of the word "Ball" in the second line, and substituted 'floor,' which is inconsistent with the overall flow of the meaning and message of that song. What connection does sweeping a floor have with the rest of those lyrics? ------- Apart from that, your comment is what we've come to expect - ignoring the healing message and focusing on some triviality in the detail. "Always the non-essential, never the essential," as Wilhelm Reich lamented in "Listen, Little Man!"
=================================================== I've had the opportunity to listen again to George Harrison's recording of that song. I can confirm that the correct wording of the first verse as sung by George is as stated above, with the word "Ball," meaning globe or the earth, which is obviously in need of "sweeping." "Oh Ishtar come to end our pain And then we'll learn to love again." .................................................................. WHILE MY GUITAR GENTLY WEEPS --------------- I look at you all see the love there that's sleeping While my guitar gently weeps I look at the Ball and I see it needs sweeping Still my guitar gently weeps I don't know why nobody told you How to unfold your love I don't know how someone controlled you They bought and sold you I look at the world and I notice it's turning While my guitar gently weeps With every mistake we must surely be learning Still my guitar gently weeps I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WERE DIVERTED YOU WERE PERVERTED TOO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WERE INVERTED NO ONE ALERTED YOU I look at you all see the love there that's sleeping While my guitar gently weeps I look at you all......... Still my guitar gently weeps --------------------- Words and Music by George Harrison --------------------- I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WERE DIVERTED YOU WERE PERVERTED TOO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WERE INVERTED NO ONE ALERTED YOU I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WERE DIVERTED YOU WERE PERVERTED TOO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WERE INVERTED NO ONE ALERTED YOU I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WERE DIVERTED YOU WERE PERVERTED TOO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WERE INVERTED NO ONE ALERTED YOU I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WERE DIVERTED YOU WERE PERVERTED TOO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WERE INVERTED NO ONE ALERTED YOU http://www.network54.com/Forum/57466/thread/1193285565/last-1193285565/I%20Still%20Miss%20Someone ===================================================================================
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